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  1. #63
    The vast majority of the women in LR are Romanian and a mixture of Southeastern Euro types, Nordic type women seem to be a minority here. A good number of Hungarian gypsy types as well.

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Excess
    Nice update CBGBC - your report suggests that there has been a significant change in the M.O. of the girls at The Living Room from even a month or two ago. Then, it was required that the guest do the running and the girls would respond but not initiate.
    ...
    Yesterday evening I went there. Most of the girls seemed totally uninterested to entertain guests. I wonder what they were doing there then? A few were the opposite: almost pushy.

    I had one disappointing session with Noni, German/Turkish. Great body, optick fick. My hormones got the better of me, so I'll take the blame.

    Fortunately Margarita (Greek/Italian) showed up later. I didn't expect her anymore so this was a pleasant surprise! She is my favourite in LR, together with Rumanian Jennifer. Margarita soon made me forget the earlier disappointing experience, and we had a great one hour session.

    I've been in LR a few times now and I like the atmosphere. But since yesterday I think I'll give it a miss for a few months. A pity, it could be a great club.

  3. #61

    Changing Modus Operandi at TLR?

    Nice update CBGBC - your report suggests that there has been a significant change in the M.O. of the girls at The Living Room from even a month or two ago. Then, it was required that the guest do the running and the girls would respond but not initiate. Your experience was that it was moving towards the larger FKK circuses where the girls are constantly hunting the poor, unsuspecting (sort of) punters. A big turn for the worse, in my opinion.

    You also report a large contingent of Romanians - I was present when a trio of Romanians arrived for their first night. Perhaps more have joined them and we are in for the Romanian hustle seen at other clubs - I hope not.

    Thanks for sharing.

    Quote Originally Posted by CBGBConnisur
    This club has nice and modern facilities but the women are a mixed bag, a large number of Romanian girls. Women approach you to get you to enter a room. The most annoying thing about this club vs. FKKs is that the women are not nude, and you cannot see their imperfections. The big advantage of FKKs is being able to shag gorgeous girls that you would have no chance with in real life.
    Overall not bad. But some girls seemed kind of aggressive.

  4. #60
    This club has nice and modern facilities but the women are a mixed bag, a large number of Romanian girls. Women approach you to get you to enter a room. The most annoying thing about this club vs. FKKs is that the women are not nude, and you cannot see their imperfections. The big advantage of FKKs is being able to shag gorgeous girls that you would have no chance with in real life.
    I went yesterday after 8PM, showered, went upstairs, and saw that the buffet was finished, damn. I got a drink from the bar and went outside, within a few seconds, I was approached by a Romanian by the name of Trikinos, from Transyvania(she looked Vampish) but was too dead tired. I went to the sauna then came back to the bar. I noticed a dark skinned woman eyeing me, walked to her, she said she was Hungarian, Christina, surprised, I thought she was Indian from her looks. Decided to go with her, man she knew how to give me a hard on, licked my balls clean and gave me a nice wet bbbj. Then I went from behind. Overall not bad. But some girls seemed kind of aggressive.

  5. #59

    Club beside Livingroom

    http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7330/liivzm5.jpg

    Took this pic last january, this club is around the corner from Livingroom..
    anyone know anything??

  6. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Woof Woof
    That's Lisa. I had a fantastic time with her. I would even go further and give her a 5 rating on a 5-point scale. Too bad you missed out on seeing her.
    By the way, nice report.
    Right you are Woof Woof, I remember now and that was her name. She was sporting a pair of long blue suede 'fuck-me boots" to top it all off. Top quality, very nice personality and bright. Mr. "XYZ"'s German driver went with her. On his return from the room, he commented "I'm in love". Am feeling even worse, now that you have given her a 5/5. Must try to take paper and pen with me, as I am finding that while visiting clubs and the blood leaves the big head to support the little head memory retention isn't what it used to be. Mercedes was another newbie girl in for the day to check things out.

  7. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Excess

    ...There is a lovely German girl – Mercedes ? black hair from Leipzig. Good English and very nicely turned out. A German guest tried her and gave her a 4 hard-on rating. Sadly, she was dressed in her civvies and on her way out...
    That's Lisa. I had a fantastic time with her. I would even go further and give her a 5 rating on a 5-point scale. Too bad you missed out on seeing her.
    By the way, nice report.

  8. #56

    Living Room - first Visit

    And a not too bad Monday at the Living Room was recently experienced by a first time visitor - me. Pfingstmontag to boot !

    Arrived on a rainy day, it continued for most of the day/evening so the garden was out of bounds. Being room bound my mind wandered several times to Bernd's and sighed that it was not to be as Bernd's was closed for the holiday. Quickly banished those thoughts when they arose as they would be unfair to LR and myself. As reported previously by several posters, a good M/F ratio for the duration - in favor of the males. Ginger, the on-site manageress, was friendly, a font of knowledge that she freely shared.

    First impressions and as it is a relatively new club establishing itself, I will dwell on the environment and atmosphere more than usual. The ladies follow.
    Spick and span and lovely facilities throughout, much like a living room.

    On-site management just about beats anywhere I’ve visited for information, positive attitude and concern for the guests' enjoyment - a real eye opener for me. Back to 'reality' when next visiting the 'Hof and the ever lovely Connie, I guess.

    Girls - seemingly a work in progress.

    As also reported by other members about 1/2 of the up to 15 girls in attendance used the holiday to check-out LR. Clearly, the place is getting a bit of a buzz and curious visits from girls working in regional clubs who are thinking of making a move. The facilities and relaxed environment is looked upon with favor by the girls but without a good level of paying guests this will fade. The quality was a mixed bag but more than enough to keep most minds from wandering - after a full day in the Living Room , I left with several remaining on the To-do list. There was only 1 out of the 15 who was a definte no-no due to body type. Never saw her with a Customer. Her Mother probably says that she has a lovely personality - don't know as I didn't speak with her.

    Interaction.

    The girls do seem for the most part seem to share with management making the efforts to get the club off the ground and firmly established. Did not get one attempt all day/evening to 'up-sell', or to squeeze out extra time charges. This in itself is to be applauded and supported. At the LR, Guests make the move and there is no tugging on your proverbial sleeve - "Zimmer Mister? Zimmer?"

    The mix of providers was Polish, Romanian and a decent sample of German or German born. A little minx from Hungary- Kitty and a smooth and lithe Lithuanian- Inga pretty much completed the smorgasboard on offer most of the day/evening. The girls were for the most part smiling when among guests, or when behind the bar getting something for themselves always willing and asking if the guests required a drink. Also a nice touch.

    I also liked the idea that there was various levels of action going on in the sauna-plunge pool area. As the evening progressed, both guests and girls lined up for treatment by the merry/menacing Masseur who keep us entertained with his off-the-wall comments. The sauna facilities were very good with a large window useful for checking on the progress and attributes of the ladies both within the sauna and outside.

    A number of foreign visitors had made the holiday trek (including myself). It did seem that among the locals were also a number of first time visitors who wished to check out LR.

    Met an American who raved about his visit the day before to Ying Yang - "so many fine looking ladies that I found myself frozen into indecision, until I met Sammi (sp)." He was traveling the FKK circuit exclusively by train and with every little German knowledge. A very cheery and positive soul, he had misunderstood the directions to LR by phone and had spent 2 hours walking before he found the place. To their credit, the LR management was horrified. He was also short of funds on his arrival as he couldn't find a Bank, and it was his birthday. As a gesture, the LR manageress suggested that he relax and have a first session without worrying about payment, and when ready they would pay for a taxi to take him to and back from a local bank/ ATM machine and he would settle with the girl following-implicitly LR would ensure that whatever happened the girl would be paid. This he did as the gentlemen he is. With Customer care like this, the Living Room can go far - very far.

    Another interesting guest encounter was with Mr. 'XYZ", on his first visit, who is a legend among German FKK/Party Treff managers and owners due to his 4 or 5 visits from the US a year with a group of friends. I had met him a couple of years ago. He has been doing this for more than 10 years. This time there was only 5 in his 'party', often there is up to 10, including a German driver. Very well organized, the program is mapped out with military precision in a 'play book'. This visit was for 8 days and with 21 clubs/party treffs to visit. Frankfurt had been done, the German Dutch border had a first going over. Today was LR with departure to GT around 9:30 pm. The pace was always on with these guys. During the early evening the overall manager of GT and LR stopped by and warmly welcomed all the guests but especially Mr. "XYZ". The Manager passed out 5 Euro discount cards to us – another nice touch too.

    I asked Mr. "XYZ" which was his favorite club in Germany. With little hesitation: Bernd's, for the the unique atmosphere and service levels that he felt could not be approached consistently by any other club - large or small. Interesting insight but he was also very happy with GT among others and by departure had pronounced the Living Room to be a “very good club, I like the relaxed atmosphere especially, and the attitude of the girls. This club is a keeper.”

    Food report

    decent, but only nibbled. A good mix of beans and peppers added some spice - potatoes were good - pastries didn't need a second bite before discarding in favor of the coffee .

    The famous LR pizza? Had to try after various reports from our more culinary inclined members. My balanced verdict? The toppings were not bad at all - the pizza crust was not edible, at least by me – back to the drinks. The girls seemed to go through a good amount of pizza so maybe like some of the girls themselves – it is an acquired taste.

    And so on to the ladies.

    As I mentioned, there were a good handful that made the short-list and couldn't get though them all as I was looking for a relaxed day and got it.

    I was very taken with Inga the Lithuanian, a tall slim blonde who is very good looking. However, as I observed her for an hour or two sitting alone or with Customers - I just got the vibration that she might be a bit too cool - remembered a last report on another board in which the guest was disappointed while on the other hand have also read good reports.

    Decided to let her go for another time and there will be, I hope, another time.

    Viktoria - Tallish Polish Blond.

    First up – made a decision to try Viktoria – tallish, blond and friendly Polish girl, reasonably good body and # 3 breasts. Said she had been in Germany for about 4 years - last worked in Wuppertal - she thought the club there was s**t and liked LR. A bit wild-eyed at times when talking with her. She also kindly showed me around the club and all things being equal decided to giver her a spin. Up to the rooms, which were in good shape and clean. Viktoria was ready for all types of interaction, started soon at my request with a nice standing BBBJ and no hands which is nice. Good skills mixing swirling motions with a decent pumping action. Not earthshaking but better than average in my experience. Smoothly into prone with BBBJ continuation and then into FK. Moved eventually into 69 and finally cowgirl for a solid, first up completion. All very satisfactory but the earth didn’t move. Ran to close to 30 minutes – I was ready to move on, and she spilt after a few moments of chat while I went to the lockers. Viktoria arrived for her Euro 50 and a kiss. Throughout the day/evening, it was usual for the girls following a session to depart and then reappear at the lockers after 5-10 minutes or so. I like the lack of clinging on to you to get their money. Just another small but pleasant touch and in keeping with the laid back atmosphere as noted by several posters at this club.

    Later, a trio of Romanians arrived. Very fit girls – little German and no English. Ginger passed the word that they were visiting first time and she would appreciate feed-back from any guests trying them. The girls kept very much to themselves at the end of the bar, chatting amongst themselves. Must have been two hours and no customer interest. While not stunners – two of the 3 were perhaps 7/8’s and the other a 7, but very slim and well put together as Romanians can be. I have had decent, so-so and bad experiences in the past with Romanians so was a bit wary myself but then if Ginger needed a field report, why not?

    Romalu (sp) Romanian - mid-size, short dark hair, very fit.

    Chatted with one of the girls, Romalu (sp.) who had great skin, a bit of Gypsy blood in her and a very nice figure. Short and with short black hair. Story was that the girls arrived together yesterday, she had a sister who was living with a German guy and they were staying there, and that this was their first visit to LR or a German club. As I always tell myself; “Club girls never lie”. Things moved on as they do, and we went up to a room.

    Romalu slipped out of her bikini and she was very well put together – fully shaved and ready to get it on. In fact a little too ready for the condom, so Excess had to take charge, slow things down and told her how the session would unfold after hearing from her, no digits, light kissing only etc. She got the idea that while generally respecting her boundaries there was a new Sheriff in the room.

    BBBJ while prone - good but again not earthshaking and no hands. Moved down to the Y, not too much reaction, which surprised me as I do enjoy it and have often been complimented by the girls both verbally and in their voluntary and involuntary actions on my technique at the Y. As I proceed to lick and kiss the inside of her thighs, she became very animated and jumping. This seemed to break through the reserve and she started to enjoy herself. I marked it up to either her efforts to start-off with the WG wall/shields fully up; or my technique is slipping and I needed to work on my game. It also seemed that the light kissing only command was slipping away. Pulled into Missionary followed by a good finish again in cowgirl. Good control until the end. Again, not earthshaking but satisfactory. Eventually, Euro 50 completed the transaction.

    One of the other new Romanians, slim and well put together and with long black hair then started chatting with some guests and eventually she too left for a room. She was the most active of the 3 and it was clear that the 3 newbies were starting to get their feet. The other was a quiet one who I did not see go with a Customer in over 6 hours and either sat with the other girls or by herself. Shame as she had probably the best body of the 3 – the Romanian ultra-thin but with hips and boobs if you know the type. Her attitude/shyness seemed to put the guests off and who could blame them. I, of course, gave Ginger my condensed field report on Romalu. Told her that she needed to relax and slow things down, not earthshaking but satisfactory and could be expected to improve as she settled in. Ginger said thanks and that it sounds as if Romalu would be allowed back and that she would report it so to XXX. So yet another instance of LR management trying to get the place off the ground. Full marks to that.

    The American guest later reported a fun session starting in the sauna with Romalu and giving her a massage - fantastic skin, he said. He then left the sauna and got into the whirlpool. Kitty the Hungarian had been eying him and eventually left the bench, walked slowly across the floor discarding her dress and hoped into the pool on top of him and with DFK. One thing led to another and as he stood up out of the water she started on a BBBJ while in the pool . The masseur and other girls/guest didn’t voice any objections. They left the pool for a room and he reported an extremely hot and GFE session.

    Much of the day/evening was spent relaxing and drinking soft drinks/water. Beer is available and is part of the entrance fee. 50 Euros.

    As the evening moved on – it was a question of another session or to head off inot the dark and stormy night.

    As good things (and bad) often come in 3’s – decided on a last session. Who was it to be? Inga – no as stated above. There is a lovely German girl – Mercedes ? black hair from Leipzig. Good English and very nicely turned out. A German guest tried her and gave her a 4 hard-on rating. Sadly, she was dressed in her civvies and on her way out.. A few others came to mind including a semi Goth German girl. Black hair again – but as the evening wore on seemed to get less friendly and sat by the wall opposite the bar by herself.

    Calley(sp.) - German, short long brown hair and topless

    Finally decided upon another German girl – small/medium height – bare to the waist all day and with a nice smile and C cups. Long brown hair. Her name actually escapes me for the moment, Calley (sp.)?, but will update when it comes. She is quite recognizable – spends most of her time sitting at the wall opposite the bar on a stool near the door. Friendly soul as mentioned and I was ready for some full bodied action to finish up. Good choice in the end.

    Up to the room after some chat time. Stripped down and she looked good – again not knock out material but well put together. Immediately into DFK, digits no issue here, the session progressed well as we both got into things and each other. BBBJ was again above average without moving the Richter scale toward the top end. BBBJ seemed from my first sampling to be well established at the Living Room which is welcome. A DATY session was appreciated but I guess I’ll have to brush up my skill levels as the more usual extreme reaction wasn’t there, or again I’ve been spoiled mongering with member Ortos with the more amateurish girls in Cyprus who almost consistently began to climb the walls of passion. I didn’t even want to think about the usual reactions to DATY at Bernd’s for example. I must work harder I guess. She then told me during a small chat interlude that she had been twice with a guy today who I had seen. He wanted “only” to kiss and a blowjob each time which was OK she said: " but are we going to f**K?" That was a new one for me. Who can say no in a situation like this?

    Once we began the main deed things definitely moved swiftly into a higher gear. It turned out to be one those sessions were the genitalia were fully in sync. You know how it is, the grinding movements and they were grinds that meshed exactly and little Excess was fully stretched, clamped and ground up and down his being with a matching partner. You can feel every ripple and ridge inside your partner as you move. One size may not fit all, but when you get a session where the fit is tight and contact remains vice- like no matter what position or shape you are in at the moment – then it is good, very good. Moved throughout the range with hardly a break between positions, a great deal of heat and light as well as sweat. Most positions including a driving doggy and a very solid finish in a deep reverse spoon. Happy to let it go on for over an hour as both parties were clearly ready for a lengthy, strong grinding session. A mega pop to finish up the day

    Completed with some light chat and stroking before heading off to the showers. My willing co-worker arrived in a few minutes. I asked her how much it was to be to gauge the money calculations and she replied immediately Euro 75. No money issues all night on time or service at the Living Room.

    That was it for me, a coffee and sit for a half-hour and thus closed my first visit to the Living Room. I should also comment on a bubbly German blond Bar maid – Monica. She works at Ying Yang and GT, but had a minor medical procedure and so was ‘hors combat’ for 3 weeks. Great, very smart girl and she promised to get on the other side of the bar in that time frame – nothing gynecological as we discussed her treatment in detail. Super girl and I would have done her in a flash. She said her blow jobs were outstanding and that she was going crazy sitting at home and decided to get out and work at the bar – she would stay at the Living Room to see how it went but liked it. She looked great in jeans and a shirt and I could imagine the rest.

    Conclusion for me: Living Room.

    Top marks for management, best club that I’ve seen for management attention but again it is a smallish club so it can either be very good or very bad. LR was good and needs to be encouraged. Very relaxed atmosphere, girls are not stunners but solid and good and pleasant workers. The girls are responding well to the relaxed atmosphere, many girls in the region at other clubs seem to be looking at the LR as an alternative to the larger and more stressful clubs. Good facilities and on a nice day there is a garden to sit in. A very nice change of pace. It will need more male support to keep the girls coming and happy. I much prefer it to Samya as but one similar example in the area. Would I take the Living Room over Bernd’s? Nahhhhhhhhh. But I would say that on a 3 day trip, I would spend one day at the Living Room to relax. Hope that this puts it into perspective from my point of view. As always, every club visit is a learning experience. Enjoy the Living Room, I did.

  9. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Woof Woof
    Would like to nominate WK to officially inspect the facilities and the girls, LOL.
    Ha ha,
    Ive inspected two clubs this year that hadn't been reported on previously here, and both were pretty shit. So I reckon Ive "taken my ones" for the board for 2007 anyway.

    For the remainder of this year, if a club doesnt have a decent report here I aint goin (unless its free entry or similar). Anyway I reckon the majority of my remaining trips this year will be focused around PT Selm. It simply doesnt get any better for €100 a day.

  10. #54
    Forgot to mention that there's a new club just around the corner from LR. It's not an FKK and it's not a PT. I think it's called something like xxxquisite. Would like to nominate WK to officially inspect the facilities and the girls, LOL.

  11. #53
    The current owner of LR has invested a lot to upgrade the facilities and it has become one of my favorite clubs along with PHG. The owner is a slim, tall, and attractive blonde in her 40s, speaks good English and used to be in the profession herself before her current role. She's a very engaging and customer-oriented owner always asking you if everything is OK when she's around. I hope LR does well going forward. It doesn't get the crowds from Holland, Belgium and France that GT and PHG do because of its location. But for me, I go there as the antidote to GT and PHG. Totally laid back environment.

  12. #52

    The club that Living Room used to be

    Pointless putting this here really but I’m doing it anyway.

    On my last trip a month ago, I went to investigate Blaue Lagune Kaarst, a so so club really, but while in the hotel I got talking to the receptionist about what clubs were in the area, and he handed me this flier. I initially thought it was that club beside Livingroom that has been mentioned here before.

    Anyway totally forgot all about it, until I discovered the flier in my bag today!!

    Turns out it is actually the club that used to be there before Livingroom took over. Same address, same phone number and also the Jacuzzi is the same. So a bit of nostalgia for you all.


    Flier side A
    http://img179.imagevenue.com/img.php..._122_467lo.jpg

    Flier side B
    http://img44.imagevenue.com/img.php?..._122_680lo.jpg

  13. #51

    Visit last Sunday

    The plan on this last day of the trip was to hang out at LR. Arrived at 4pm and was greeted at the door by Ginger who recognized me from last time. She used to work the bar but is now working the front desk at LR. Ginger speaks perfect English and is real friendly. I chatted with her a little bit and was sad to learn that Alice, the blond Polish girl from Hamburg and Marie, the Dutch supermodel were no longer working at LR. Alice had gone back to Hamburg while Marie has left this line of work and is working full-time in a regular job in Holland.

    On this afternoon there were about 15 girls and an equal number of white robes. Later around 6pm and for the rest of the night, the number of girls totaled 20. Monique, the tall German blonde with the bubble butt was working as a barmaid tonight. Dinner was not very good tonight. Pizza was served between 22h and 23h.

    My first session was with Shyla, a tall (5'9") girl with b-cup, and beautiful long black hair and a killer body. Shyla is half-German and half-Turkish. There was nothing exceptional about her service, e.g., no DFK/LFK, no digits, average bbbj, DATY.

    Later, a 22yo Romanian girl who goes by Ashanti (sp?) joined me outside under the Bitburger tent for dinner. Ashanti is new to LR having just arrived from the UK. She speaks good English and little German. She's about 5'4", nice natural C-cup, neither skinny nor fat but a well-toned body. Ashanti has blue eyes and long curly brown hair. She provides good service: decent bbbj, DATY, no digits, no CIM, LFK but no DFK.

    The highlight of the night for me and among the top five experiences I had on this trip was meeting Lisa, a tall (5'7"), beautiful, 25yo German with long black hair with some streaks of pink. She has a nicely tanned and toned body, flat tummy, with plenty of tattoos on her lower back and above the pubic area. She also has plenty of piercings, pierced nipples, tongue stud, and tiny diamond studs above and below her lips. Her service was superb and I took an hour with her. Excellent bbbj with cim, rimming, digits, DFK, loves DATY, gets very vocal and especially enjoys doggy-style pounding. We also had time to chat some. Lisa is originally from Leipzig but lives in Bonn now, and is an ex-Samya girl. After the session, she offered to take a shower with me so off we went into the men's shower area downstairs and washed each other with some more DFK. Lisa is da bomb and I couldn't think of a better way to wrap up this trip...

  14. #50

    2 IT geeks lose their virginity in Germany continued

    …continued from partytreff dosrten thread

    day 7:

    our flight out of frankfurt wasn’t till that night so we still had some time to kill. it came down to 2 places either livingroom or gt, knowing the same company owns them we went for livingroom because it was a shorter drive.

    now both of us admitted to not feeling too horny today, so we brought our viagra and cialis along. before we went in i took the cialis and teller took the viagra. nothing happended immediately, but read on…

    we were both impressed with living room; i really thought it was a well thought out club. not only was it the cleanest sex club i have ever been in, it is probably one of the cleanest buildings. its so clean it’s almost like a hospital. the thing that really geeked us out was the electronic lookers, they are excellent. not having to take off your armband every time you want to access your locker is the best.

    we reckoned we had about 3 hours total till we needed to hit the road, so we decided to chill in the jacuzzi for 30 minutes before doing the first girl, but it was in the jacuzzi that i got a hard on looking at some of the girls walking around. so the cialis really was working good, so much so that my cock wouldn’t go down. i decided to just go along with it, but i didn’t want to walk into the bar area with my obvious hard on. i was in the shower when this blonde girl walked by and had a laugh at me with my raging hard on. she came up and told me she could do something with it. as usual i cant remember her name, but she said is german, and only does this one day a week to supplement her income in a regular job. i ended up taking her for an hour in the room, and fucked her twice. after my failure in partytreff dorsten it was great to get back on track. now even after fucking this girl i still had a semi, so i went back to the jacuzzi for a while. my cock was now lying down, but still big, like almost erect size but flaccid. i wish it could look like that all the time, and for a geek i felt very macho.

    i then bumped into teller, who said the viagra certainly made him harder, and that he didn’t come so fast as usual. we agreed that we should have taken these meds earlier in the week too. time as now against us, so we decided on one last woman each. we went up to the bar, and spotted 2 hot brunettes. just a half hour each for €50, and both pretty good.

    we then hit the road hard; hit some high speeds on the way back in places. teller drove, and i think he thought he was michael schumacher at times. we both felt great and played some of our fav cds at high volume. on the flight home, we chatted about the great week, and how much it had changed us. we flew into germany 2 geeky virgins, and we flew home new men (still geeks though)

    we hope to return again in the fall.

    thank you,

    penn and teller – 2 geeky perverts who love the german sex scene

    editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here for more information.

  15. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackyo

    Maybe someone has a name I can search for.
    Why?

    I think there are two other clubs in Kaarst and both are not really worth visiting.
    http://www.club-blauelagune.de/

    and ....

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