SC Sauna Club Living Room - Kaarst

[Sirioja]

Unfortunately that is not what GND means. You are looking for a term like Plain Jane, not GND.

So let s say, many LR girls are not pretty enough for my subjective eyes to be desirable for my subjective mind. Only a very few are attractive for me: new Andrea but not woman enough in bed, so even she did behave to repeat on same day, she was friendly, really pretty, but once is enough. New Rena is cute but I was not free for her.

Elegance and charm are more rare than many pandas in FKK land. But the worst part is manager, not smiling girls on desk, don't care about clients who pay entry. They play whole day Bundesliga 2 for themselves and their friends, when girls manager at GT try much more to please us, at least for me. They are not able to manage a unrespectful girl behavior, so, low level behavior is new profile for LR girls? When most of new girls don t seem to be sensual woman in bed, but more little girls, maybe LR aim to become Oase small brother, when GT big brother is a good example for success, with girls getting business there, when LR lost many great girls and many very regulars. Even with alcohol back, most often empty, if new couches are comfortable guys who prefer to drink free beer rather than going with girls, will sleep in couches like one on last Thursday night. Active business on management level, they have to understand we are not friends, we are clients who pay entry to get services from the club, and small LR is as expensive as famous GT, more expensive than big fuck factory Sharks with 150 girls for only entry 50 on Wednesday and Sunday before 2 pm. Much more beautiful club with much better foods, garden and SPA, YY is only 50 before 2 pm, with great breakfast, and had so sweet GFE Fabienne, amazing with eyes saying: love me, Elena. Also a real, even only 20 yo, woman behavior, angel face, Romanian, there. I m pretty sure level in bed is higher than new LR girls. So, LR seem expensive for management services level and casting for looks and level in bed quality, on 2018. Even Bab casting, with Mikaela, Kelli, Dolli, Mari, can compete at the moment.

[Takedown]

Sometimes I'm clever. LR's Plain Jane is a lovely woman.

Takedown,

Please clarify if this is pun intended or not. I can't believe you rocked out a Plain Jane when she is the frustration point that Sirioja is stumbled over. I understand his frustrations, I had a similar experience in GT just about one year ago which caused my migration to LR. I was in a place that the woman wanted so she kept bumping me until I reacted. I was not near the gentleman you were and I think had I been in your situation I might have reacted poorly. I've seen the club let totally drunken men harass the male and female guests without a major discussion.

On one hand, LR is an amazing club, but sometimes it's hard to handle. I'm happy they have started investing in the comforts of the people visiting, after all it's a 60 entry Sauna Club not a RLD. If not for the couches everyone would be fighting for one of the four sides of the pillar.

[Chongmal]

Unfortunately that is not what GND means. You are looking for a term like Plain Jane, not GND.

Takedown,

Please clarify if this is pun intended or not. I can't believe you rocked out a Plain Jane when she is the frustration point that Sirioja is stumbled over. I understand his frustrations, I had a similar experience in GT just about one year ago which caused my migration to LR. I was in a place that the woman wanted so she kept bumping me until I reacted. I was not near the gentleman you were and I think had I been in your situation I might have reacted poorly. I've seen the club let totally drunken men harass the male and female guests without a major discussion.

On one hand, LR is an amazing club, but sometimes it's hard to handle. I'm happy they have started investing in the comforts of the people visiting, after all it's a €60 entry Sauna Club not a RLD. If not for the couches everyone would be fighting for one of the four sides of the pillar.

[TankTank123]

Unfortunately that is not what GND means. You are looking for a term like Plain Jane, not GND.

Here is the 'top definition' from Urban Dictionary:

"She's the girl whom you always admired from afar and were afraid to approach, fearing that any erotic projection toward her would ruin her image as a decent, pure and almost virginal womanly ideal.
She's (in your mind at least) untrodden ground; unspoiled by other men and so sweet-natured it almost frightens you to think of her in explicit sexual situations. Almost.
Similarly, she could be a friend's cousin whom you met at family occasions over the years. Or even a new employee at work who is shy and unassuming, but still gives you that "she seems so nice, I'd love to talk to her" feeling."

Personally, I go mainly for GNDs, rather than top beauty models. Hence my favorites are/were girls like Mandy in Sharks, Claudia/Flori in LR/Babylon, Victoria in World, Mara in Bernd's, to name just a few. These kinds are the ones who provide GFE that is almost believable.

[Takedown]

My meaning for GND is girls we see on each corner in streets, and I m only attracted by beauties, so I don t pay for GND.

Unfortunately that is not what GND means. You are looking for a term like Plain Jane, not GND.

[Sirioja]

Did management treat you poorly? Other mongers still report good treatment from management.

To most others and for the English definition, GND is a good way to describe a girl. Pretty with a good wholesome attitude is the definition of GND.

My meaning for GND is girls we see on each corner in streets, and I m only attracted by beauties, so I don t pay for GND.

[Sirioja]

Siri,

I'm really surprised to read what you say about Jane! I know her for a few years and never experienced any vulgar behavior.

Nothing about a room, I never had room with her, as I wrote many times my eyes never noticed her, even among average casting on 2018. I never complained about any girl, from Hamburg to Slovenia, even I always try to behave to get the best from girls, but had a few very disappointing rooms, but I never complained. When LR desk ask me why I stopped with my very regular and they still tell me about her 1 year later, I always answered it's between her and me, but never complained about her, but when I have a girl shaking her ass just under my nose, it's vulgar for me, I don't go with this kind of prostitute, I need a bit of elegance and charm, I didn't see any when I look at her, but when she sends her smoke in my face, I try to make her stop once, but she repeats, as a no smoker, not good for my real intense sports, I never complained about smoke at LR because I know some of my girls need to smoke to relax, even they waste money killing their health, but she play to send again her smoke in my face, so I was thinking she deserved to have a kick in her face, but I never hit a woman, just shame for weak guys who do this, when I remember registration controls I experienced on 2017 , great days with my regular, staff took ashtrays and girls had to go to smoke outside on February, so maybe I should have called sanitary service to ask them to come and complain? But I went to desk, girl on desk was lovely as always, as Maya is great and lovely now at the bar, as cooker is funny friendly, so I asked for the manager, he came to shake my hand, but I m not his friend, I m a weekly client and only reason I returned so often to LR is I found a new enjoyable girl for my tastes, if she moves, I m not stuck to LR, I would follow her, manager is not even able to understand English, is LR only for German speaking who are fan of Bundesliga 2? A bit narrow potential when many Germans, not only at LR, never go to room. Even I go only with 1 girl and other girls don't like that, but I m known for that not only at LR, but my favorites get my weekly business and they return to me. Here is my really unrespectful experience from Jane who had nothing better to do, not being able to get business. LR was empty on this Thursday night, but not kissing, new Rena got business.

[Takedown]

Management is not smiling girls on desk or at the bar, for those who know a bit about LR, management is what is behind, and must be a reason if so many problems at LR since beginning of the year, with a club falling down when it was the highest level in Germany on 2016/2017, not touristic level like in Hessen, but most often empty now, many girls left, ex girls happy to be at GT, local regulars who were stuck at LR now going to other clubs. Even with alcohol back, even on beginning of the month, empty on Thursday evening, Saturday until 6/7 pm, when there is business for girls at brother GT, Kate having a 8 hours room on Friday night, when most of LR girls are waiting to get business, not only the low level new girls, but also really good girls, at least she is really good for me, new for me but not new in the club.

Other reason is level of new girls with many GND look and little girl level in bed, far below past women in bed like my ex regular

Did management treat you poorly? Other mongers still report good treatment from management.

To most others and for the English definition, GND is a good way to describe a girl. Pretty with a good wholesome attitude is the definition of GND.

[BigBuddy69]

Preface. I have nothing to do with the LR management or owners. I pay the same price as any other tourist coming in from any other part of the world.

I hear a lot about how much better LR was back in 2016-17. What do you all think has changed that has resulted in this lower level? What do you all think is lower, number of ladies, quality of ladies, facility upkeep, amenities available?

As you said, there were more rooms and more ladies available. The more ladies you have in a club, the higher chances you get of having a superstar. 2 years ago, girls like Lily (the Russian girl), Bianca, Ada, Daria and her friends were working in the club. For the moment, there are no more superstars like them in the club. There are still really good service providers in the house, but none of them are on the same level of those girls (Isabella could maybe be one of them). The ambiance was different, dancing behind the bar occurred more often. The club suffered from the loss of these girls and since there are not enough rooms now to accommodate a larger LU, they have not been replaced. The mandatory registering had some bad effect on the LU too, some girls left because of this and less girls are coming.

Furthermore the club suffered greatly from all the problems with the inspectors (club closed in the beginning of the year, alcohol coming back and forth) and a little bit from strange business decisions (buying shitty couches for example, worse than Aca ones, the showers). They lost some girls who could attract customers (the German crew, Bianca, Antonia, Sonja, even Ami) and they had to let in some girls with a not so good attitude (from Aca Gold for example).

But I was looking lately at your list, thinking that I have been with maybe 15 girls of this list and that I could repeat with all of them but one. So for me the LU is still very good. The real low was a few months ago. In particular July was a disaster.

[Sirioja]

I didn't like those in GT- too dark and too cheap looking. They removed the machines in that corner (if you go into the main room to the right) in GT as well. This place looks a bit odd currently.

Are couches important in a club? At GT or LR, couches are only important for a single girl who makes her business gossiping in couches, if some guys want to pay for this. I never paid for this time, I'm not a gossiping, couch time specialist, I m not interested by what do other guys or other girls. When I m so happy to succeed to find even only one attractive girl, then I prefer to speak with her about her, rather than gossiping, I'm more interested by her.

[Chongmal]

The lounge is newly updated. Photos are attached.

[Bobolino]

or letting vulgar, unrespectful Jane who was not able to get business, bothering a client who was never interested and never noticed her. After nearly 6 years, more than 600 days in FKK land from Hamburg to Slovenia, for sure more than 1000 rooms, for first time I went to desk about a girl, when no girl never took me to desk, but she was really too unrespectful, really low level behavior and also low level management, I don't want to pay 60 for this, when I visited at least once, sometimes twice, weekly on last 2 months, happy I was to find a new good girl after 11 months. New girls also don't seem to be on high level, compare to girls who left. LR is not anymore high level GFE land, most often empty except on Friday and Saturday evenings. One good girl was enough for me, but LR is really not improving for me.

Siri,

I'm really surprised to read what you say about Jane! I know her for a few years and never experienced any vulgar behavior.

[Sirioja]

I've always observed LR management to be one of the best. They have always been good to clients and to the girls. Since they've opened up their entrance policy, they've also done a good job keeping the girls safe from clients who act inappropriately.

Management is not smiling girls on desk or at the bar, for those who know a bit about LR, management is what is behind, and must be a reason if so many problems at LR since beginning of the year, with a club falling down when it was the highest level in Germany on 2016/2017, not touristic level like in Hessen, but most often empty now, many girls left, ex girls happy to be at GT, local regulars who were stuck at LR now going to other clubs. Even with alcohol back, even on beginning of the month, empty on Thursday evening, Saturday until 6/7 pm, when there is business for girls at brother GT, Kate having a 8 hours room on Friday night, when most of LR girls are waiting to get business, not only the low level new girls, but also really good girls, at least she is really good for me, new for me but not new in the club.

Other reason is level of new girls with many GND look and little girl level in bed, far below past women in bed like my ex regular Daria, I think she liked my appropriate behavior with her, even she didn't like I didn t go anymore with her when I chose couches star, like I chose her before. Who are also the new Jeni, Melissa. Bu, Lily. Kaz? New Rena who was the busiest on last Thursday evening, without kissing service? New standard at LR? But my behavior is to never be a beggar with girls, I prefer to get from them, and my appropriate behavior got me great girls at LR since May 2016, starting with Amira, then Daria, Jeni, then I don t remember but she came to me when she started her day, weekly for months and 1 year later, desk still tell me about her, but since October 2017 when I stopped, experiencing only disappointing levels for my tastes except Antonella and Eli who didn t stay, had to be patient and worked hard for 11 months, to discover my new one, a real good surprise, from her behavior in lounge to after only 2 or 3 minutes in room, but I already felt this in couch time, I must be David Copperfield twin to have appropriate skill to get the best for my tastes from my girls. I drive from so far for this, and she made me drive from Slovenia border, after killing my body climbing Zoncolan on morning, then driving 1000 kms for her. I visited twice per week end when she worked, even LR is so boring for me before she starts her day, but with such level of management not even able to ask a unrespectful girl, not to bother clients, when she is not able to get business but not my problem, I don t pay for a boring club where management only play low level Bundesliga 2 without listening to what clients ask, when they listen at big brother GT when I m sometimes the only one to watch ski Worldcup and ski time is coming now, and not able to manage Jane behavior about respect for clients, so as a weekly regular, even not German, for years and on 2 last months, I won t pay for such level, even new couches I don t care about. Only girls level worth for me to spend my money.

[Chongmal]

I'm happy that management is finally taking some actions to improve the club. It is technically a Living Room, so it's difficult to offer some amenities guys would like to see, like a gym, but making those offered top notch is an option. Maybe guys who want to workout could be allowed to go jogging, in their white robes and bath slippers, around the football pitches at the ISA. The one thing I hope is the struggles about alcohol is behind the club. It seems each time alcohol has been removed, many male clients and females have moved away from the club and some don't return when the alcohol does. I do wish the TV programming was a bit more flexible. It was a shame not to see any of the Olympic Games or Formula 1 while at LR.

[ExpatLover]

Never saw Hells at LR, but Turkish, Albanians, Arabs, since March 2017. So many problems at LR since beginning of the year, must have a real reason when no problems at brother GT, but low level management at LR compare to GT, I don't mean girls on desk or at the bar, but day or night guys who should manage rather than watching Bundesliga 2, or letting vulgar, unrespectful Jane who was not able to get business, bothering a client who was never interested and never noticed her. After nearly 6 years, more than 600 days in FKK land from Hamburg to Slovenia, for sure more than 1000 rooms, for first time I went to desk about a girl, when no girl never took me to desk, but she was really too unrespectful, really low level behavior and also low level management, I don't want to pay 60 for this, when I visited at least once, sometimes twice, weekly on last 2 months, happy I was to find a new good girl after 11 months. New girls also don't seem to be on high level, compare to girls who left. LR is not anymore high level GFE land, most often empty except on Friday and Saturday evenings. One good girl was enough for me, but LR is really not improving for me.

The world is changing and the FKK world also. We have to admit it even we don t like the new world. Just have a look about the owners of most of the clubs, consider also that probably more than 90% of the girls have a pimp, BF or are married, we are just there to spend as much cash as possible. The clubs are full of migrants, full of guys not able to shower naked, full of guys not putting a towel in the sauna, not respecting the girls or the other mongers. Never forget that most of the girls have better alternative than to be in a FKK club and that there are so many other options also for the mongers to get great sex. I never spend so less time and cash in the club than in the last year, I am extremely selective and able to control my libido and to say no it is not worth it.