SC Sauna Club Living Room - Kaarst

[Louie De Palma]

Never saw Hells at LR, but Turkish, Albanians, Arabs, since March 2017. So many problems at LR since beginning of the year, must have a real reason when no problems at brother GT, but low level management at LR compare to GT, I don't mean girls on desk or at the bar, but day or night guys who should manage rather than watching Bundesliga 2, or letting vulgar, unrespectful Jane who was not able to get business, bothering a client who was never interested and never noticed her. After nearly 6 years, more than 600 days in FKK land from Hamburg to Slovenia, for sure more than 1000 rooms, for first time I went to desk about a girl, when no girl never took me to desk, but she was really too unrespectful, really low level behavior and also low level management, I don't want to pay 60 for this, when I visited at least once, sometimes twice, weekly on last 2 months, happy I was to find a new good girl after 11 months. New girls also don't seem to be on high level, compare to girls who left. LR is not anymore high level GFE land, most often empty except on Friday and Saturday evenings. One good girl was enough for me, but LR is really not improving for me.

I visited Livingroom in July. It was as great as ever, and the management was all over to make us punters happy. I have had a single bad experience in this club, a bulgarian girl a couple of years back. Otherwise, this is my favourite club.

[Kuni042]

I didn't like those in GT- too dark and too cheap looking. They removed the machines in that corner (if you go into the main room to the right) in GT as well. This place looks a bit odd currently.

I hear they delivered new couches at LR and GT today. I haven't seen them but I'm told they are nice. To me, this is one great positive.

[Takedown]

I've always observed LR management to be one of the best. They have always been good to clients and to the girls. Since they've opened up their entrance policy, they've also done a good job keeping the girls safe from clients who act inappropriately.

[Sirioja]

I hear they delivered new couches at LR and GT today. I haven't seen them but I'm told they are nice. To me, this is one great positive.

Great improvement for gossiping specialists. At Globe, desk ask if we found a wow girl, at LR will be asked about wow couch, when prettiest new girls like Andrea who kissed but not sensual in bed, or not kissing Rena, don t need to repeat. As there must a reason for so many problems for so long time, should change managers to improve club level, not same level for management than GT where not same problems and where ex LR girls seem happy about new business.

[Chongmal]

I hear they delivered new couches at LR and GT today. I haven't seen them but I'm told they are nice. To me, this is one great positive.

[Sirioja]

Root causes?

Could the downturn in the NRW scene be connected with the crackdown on Motorcycle Clubs over the past couple of years?

https://www.dw.com/en/german-police-...oup/a-41005862

Never saw Hells at LR, but Turkish, Albanians, Arabs, since March 2017. So many problems at LR since beginning of the year, must have a real reason when no problems at brother GT, but low level management at LR compare to GT, I don't mean girls on desk or at the bar, but day or night guys who should manage rather than watching Bundesliga 2, or letting vulgar, unrespectful Jane who was not able to get business, bothering a client who was never interested and never noticed her. After nearly 6 years, more than 600 days in FKK land from Hamburg to Slovenia, for sure more than 1000 rooms, for first time I went to desk about a girl, when no girl never took me to desk, but she was really too unrespectful, really low level behavior and also low level management, I don't want to pay 60 for this, when I visited at least once, sometimes twice, weekly on last 2 months, happy I was to find a new good girl after 11 months. New girls also don't seem to be on high level, compare to girls who left. LR is not anymore high level GFE land, most often empty except on Friday and Saturday evenings. One good girl was enough for me, but LR is really not improving for me.

[Chongmal]

why Living Room is claimed by some to be not as good as it was in previous years?

I can personally attest that business is slower, I'm just trying to find out why. I know the used to have nearly double the amount of ladies on staff, but there aren't enough men the support the current smaller casting.

[Member #4585]

Root causes?

Could the downturn in the NRW scene be connected with the crackdown on Motorcycle Clubs over the past couple of years?

https://www.dw.com/en/german-police-...oup/a-41005862

Thank you Polyamorist for the article relating to the Hells Angels and Bandidos. Similar to Chongmal, I am unsure what this has to do with why Living Room is claimed by some to be not as good as it was in previous years?

[Chongmal]

Root causes?

Could the downturn in the NRW scene be connected with the crackdown on Motorcycle Clubs over the past couple of years?

https://www.dw.com/en/german-police-...oup/a-41005862

I don't see this as a root cause but it could impact things in ways I can't imagine. How would this impact things and why is it not the same at the sister club GT?

[Polyamorist]

I hear a lot about how much better LR was back in 2016-17. What do you all think has changed that has resulted in this lower level?

Root causes?

Could the downturn in the NRW scene be connected with the crackdown on Motorcycle Clubs over the past couple of years?

https://www.dw.com/en/german-police-...oup/a-41005862

[SkyMaster]

Something more to make me want to go to the club on that Monday or Thursday or whatever when I would otherwise stay home and watch Netflix.

The LU, beer, rooms and the services are really good but when I avoid this club during the cold months of the year its due to too little things to do inside the facilities and too much smoke and a bad sound system. During weekdays if I'm tired I need to have some space for relaxation. If I'm full of energy maybe a training pass or some other activities lead by the girls could be a good motivation.

[ExpatLover]

Preface. I have nothing to do with the LR management or owners. I pay the same price as any other tourist coming in from any other part of the world.

I hear a lot about how much better LR was back in 2016-17. What do you all think has changed that has resulted in this lower level? What do you all think is lower, number of ladies, quality of ladies, facility upkeep, amenities available?

My first suggestion is more a pet peave, but give me a LR branded lighter not a GT branded lighter. Not unless you'd rather me go to GT.

Obviously, they should have a written suggestion / feedback option at the club. Some way to get a read on customer satisfaction.

After work party suggests something special. The only addition from a regular night is they have a DJ. To me, party suggests something else is going on. Something more to make me want to go to the club on that Monday or Thursday or whatever when I would otherwise stay home and watch Netflix.

The big changes are for me less new girls more and more veteran girls being fucked 10000 or more.

[Chongmal]

Preface. I have nothing to do with the LR management or owners. I pay the same price as any other tourist coming in from any other part of the world.

I hear a lot about how much better LR was back in 2016-17. What do you all think has changed that has resulted in this lower level? What do you all think is lower, number of ladies, quality of ladies, facility upkeep, amenities available?

My first suggestion is more a pet peave, but give me a LR branded lighter not a GT branded lighter. Not unless you'd rather me go to GT.

Obviously, they should have a written suggestion / feedback option at the club. Some way to get a read on customer satisfaction.

After work party suggests something special. The only addition from a regular night is they have a DJ. To me, party suggests something else is going on. Something more to make me want to go to the club on that Monday or Thursday or whatever when I would otherwise stay home and watch Netflix.

[Member #4585]

Imagine they sold 6 entries for the price of 5 in pay in advance packs. If they sold 40, this would finance 20 new couches. I think with new couches you improve the atmosphere greatly. The forty guys could bring friends, word would spread and things would improve across the board. Spend money to make money. Selling discounted advanced entries is a brilliant way for a low cost financial bump.

The buy 5 entries at full price and receive a sixth entry free is a good idea. Oase has taken it a step further with pay for 4 prepaid entries and receive 6 entries. This has been adopted for some years now. Nonetheless not so many guys as you think stump up the 280 euros for the six entries even though the saving is substantial for Oase who has a 70 euro entry fee. A lot of guys just prefer to come to the club before 4 pm at Oase to pay 50 euro and continue to ignore the pat of 4 entries and receive 6 entries even when at 46.67 euro a entry its cheaper than 50 euros.

In your example, the payment of 325 euro for 5 entries to receive 6 entries in return, well, the 325 euro is a lot of money up front. Imagine if you lost the card that records your prepaid entries.

A lot of guys prefer to pay as you go as they budget for the day and not for the days in the future.

[BigBuddy69]

So I paid a few visits to the club some days ago and it's really getting better for the place in the week end. Tuesday unfortunately was slow (for the girls, for the men they were nice ladies available). I had the pleasure to meet Chongmal who is a very pleasant companion.

The ladies I met:

- Eva, formerly known as Gaby. I knew her from the beginning of 2017 and she still delivers the goods. New boobs but they're well done with discreet scars. The girl looks more confident now, maybe because she's aged a little bit. To describe her: 25, small (160), brunette, no tattoos, very cute face, rather slim. She's the kind of girl who looks a little shy in public but she gets naughty and a little devilish in the room. She totally knows how to lead and make the guy happy. Good service (FK / DFK, BJ, sex), never asked me how long I want to stay, the kind of girl who makes this club so special.

- Anastasia, new girl. 19 yo, 165, pretty teenager face, short brown hair, very slightly chubby, one cross tattooed on a finger. Very sweet girl but inexperienced. I had to put her hand on my dick, otherwise we would still be kissing as lovesick teenagers. I will probably try her again once she matured a little bit.

- Micky (mouse), 27 yo, very small, glasses, a few tattoos, perfect be cups. Good service, doesn't ask me how long I want to stay (30 min), I was satisfied with her. My only problem is that I wanted to go with her friend Evelyn first and got caught in her claws. She likes to dance in the living room.

- Evelyn. I knew her from last time, 170, tattoo on her leg, white skin, long black hair, beautiful eyes. This time she was a little but too pushy so I didn't repeat after but the service was still good. I think most of the precious princesses of Sharks would charge me 100 euros for the half hour she gave me, and probably wouldn't be as good.

- Julia. 24 yo, small, BIG boobs, big smile, friendly, a little plump. Very sexually aggressive once we entered the room, she practically raped my mouth with her tongue. DDFK, DDBJ, I was rather sick but she got me hard. Once again, no fucking blackmail about the time. Recommended.

- Isabella, 25 yo, 165, long brown curly hair, mesmerizing eyes, beautiful woman body with full breasts. Very seductive girl and she really knows how to take care of a man with her fingers and her hands. Very good service, the only girl who could make me come without her hands when I was sick. Recommended too. She worked in Switzerland where she learnt the art of touching.

I was disappointed not to see Roxy / Sonja again but all the girls I met were good to very good. The place is clearly going better, it's not the golden days of 2 years ago (and it probably won't never be the same) but I really had a good time here. Besides Chongmal there were other customers of interest: the guy who smokes his cigar right under your nose, the older gents who spend the day on a couch waiting for Sharon, a guy who was totally drunk and groping the women for free (I think he deserved some kick in the nuts) and a little guy who was playing hide and seek behind the pillar! Or maybe he was punished by his schoolteacher for some kind of submissive role play. The food was OK, all the staff is very friendly (I had to report on Anastasia), there were still a good number of girls that I was ready to take, it was the highlight of my trip.