SC Sauna Club Living Room - Kaarst

[Sirioja]

Before new door policy which started on March / April 2017, LR was a club for regulars who came weekly for their girl.
I will never wait for Jane because for my weekly visits on 2016 and 2017, I never noticed her .
I don't need to jump on girls in LR entrance or where girls are paid, because all girls know where I always stay at LR, they even sometimes bring me a stool.

What do girls prefer? A weekly regular, or new kind of LR clients, drinking all night, drunk to fuck them?
At LR like at Sharks, some of the top girls don t want to work with night clients.

Yes, Lily is Olga at Westside Frauenfeld, but can t compete for beauty with M.

Business can t be good for girls with such new clients, why casting is so average on 2018.

Only pretty girls attract regulars, but without regulars back, pretty girls will never stay at LR.

I never noticed Jane, so she must not be attractive for my eyes, only my tastes of course. I also never noticed Bella, but I knew Antonella. Ruby who seems a nice girl, Olivia, Rose, Ami, Maya, are also not attractive for my eyes. Daria and Alyssa were not top beauties, but they had real quality for kindness, sweetness and tenderness, 2 lovely sweet girls for me. Even not new in business, Alyssa was so fresh in mind and body. I never named my last regular, naming her my Eve. I chose her for her elegance, but she lost for me her elegance, providing public exhibitions. If some guys are excited by girls fucked in public, I run away.

I'm only attracted by girls as long I can look at them like women, but when I see only prostitute behavior, they are not desirable anymore for me. Next one. Unfortunately, I didn't find a new Eve at LR, when I found some in other clubs. My passions for ski and Formula 1 are also more important than girls, I'm not interested by Bundesliga 2, so when I was at LR sometimes twice on weekend, now average casting and some staff not able to understand you are a client when you paid 60 € for entry, not on desk or bar of course, but make LR becoming only a second choice now for me.

After free ride Worldcup final at Verbier on last week end, now it's my turn for my own free ride tour, snow was deep and fresh on last week end, like I enjoy foreplay, we can hunt iceholes and avalanches, of course it will be complicated in La Grave above lac Chancel, or in Verbier, alone, without Worldcup security, but for passion and adrenaline, impossible to resist.

When I will finish, I will go to my NL friends at GT, to watch Formula 1. I ask to play, GT play for me, then NL come, they support Maxou, I support Kimi, and we are all passionate, even we don't agree, only me against them, but they know my passion. Brothels are not only about emptying balls, why club services are also important for me. Even at Oase, or 6 ens on my first visit, they played ski for me, even they can't understand somebody watching so many racers for hours, but they tried to please me.

About girls, I'm the most faithful guy, best for me would be to find a Eve and to go only with her, even in brothels, but better for my mind, but I'm only married for the best, not for the worst, and with my so bad behavior, so easy for me to make pretty girls willing to please me and to repeat with me. Once more, again on last week end at Westside where I saw Olga ex Lily. When I arrived, l immediately noticed a real beauty who was really busy, and used to very fast rooms, so I didn't go to her because I thought she would not be interesting. At Westside, no kiss and finished as soon cumming in less than 30 minutes, rooms are only 63 CHF, about 55 €, so I thought she was a not kissing specialist. When she was less busy at night, she went to me, she told me for so long time about her so enjoyable Paris visit, she claimed to be Spanish, so many lies, but I prefer Romanian girls, she was so fast to take other guys to room, she never asked me to go, telling about Paris, about her. After maybe 20 minutes, I asked her if she wanted to try with a Parisian, she answered: You want me? I thought it would be to fast fuck the prettiest girl of the club, for only 63 CHF, my mistake. When I started to caress her hands and face on bed, she came to kiss me so passionate, she was so passionate in bed. First time a claimed Spanish girl said "aïdeé" for more foreplay, when she said she usually fuck like a machine, I answered she is a real 18 yo little woman, you feel when a girl really want to give you pleasure when kissing you, or sucking you, she followed me for my games, asking to make her cum. She said only once per month, so I wish for her the only truth was the next day was her last one in this business, but she can at least take 2 months off after our room. A bit over 1 h30 , when, after controlling for long fucking, I let go, she asked me: what we do now? 1 h30 is 300 CHF at Westside, so I answered I was tired, but no rush from her. When we arrived on desk, when I went to take my credit card, she could charge me for 50 more for over time, and at least 100 for extra, she knew we probably would never meet again, she is for sure Romanian, only 18 yo, our first room, and probably last one, but she already told to desk: 1 h30 room, no over time, no extra, only 300 , when she could ask for 50% more. I really wish she will retire as she said, then I would not have to return to Westside when I will finish ski.

Bad behavior pay and save money with girls.

Many ex LR girls are at YY, some at GT.

[SoftsMann]

For eye candy:

1. Sharks.

2. GTs.

3. LR.

For service and to negotiate a 30 min 50 Euro GFE date:

1. LR.

2. GT.

3. Sharks.

if you get to LR look up a German girl named Melika or Milika....she was probably my favorite of the trip. She is like a German Porn star. If you like spinners than there is a Turkish/German girl who is a friend of Milika named Celine. She is tied for my favorite spinner of the trip. I also really wanted to do Sara and a few others at LR. It is just that Melika broke my dick. So the point is that there are plenty of good looking girls worth doing at all three places. To me it is like asking what kind of ice cream do you like?

Thanks HungryStud and others for the details. I have been reading this forum for a couple of years for help. I have been to a few places in Germany, Thailand, Philippines and now gathering some writing courage to do detailed reports.

It would be nice to meet some fellow mongers at FKK Oase / Sharks and FKK LR in coming 2 weeks.

Is there a way to meet ISG members at FKKs?

[Chongmal]

Before new door policy which started on March / April 2017, LR was a club for regulars who came weekly for their girl. I spent nearly 2000 per month from about 20 January when she returned from her first holidays, to 17 March 2017 when she made her first mistake. She could send me message when she was free, but I left, I don t pay to be a number, she could stay angry.

I will never wait for Jane because for my weekly visits on 2016 and 2017, I never noticed her, but I didn't have to wait for Daria, nor Alyssa, nor my last regular, I didn't need to jump on them in LR entrance or where girls are paid, because all girls know where I always stay at LR, they even sometimes being me a stool.

What do girls prefer? A weekly regular, or new kind of LR clients, drinking all night, drunk to fuck them? At LR like at Sharks, some of the top girls don t want to work with night clients.

Many of the best girls: Jeni. Ro, Daria, Gigi, Karina, Alyssa, Melissa. Bu, left, then less regulars, then less business for girls, new clients give money to club for entry and alcohol, but not to girls..

I hope you have been enjoying the skiing and the mountains!

I'm sorry one woman disappointed you so much you won't even say her name. She was there the past two weekends and even had some free time. I like her eyes, but she has only rarely captured my curiosity. One day wearing a teal green one piece that seemed to make her eyes shine and her skin colour contrasted so beautifully with it.

Some of the ladies you mention left at the new year, but I'm sure some would have stayed if not for the new law. I'm surprised you never sessioned with Jane, her actions are usually like what you describe as real woman behavior and her appearance is quite nice. She is tall with natural body, face and hair. She feels we should be gentlemen and go and talk first. After the first meeting, she returns to talk with the men she has met if they had good behavior.

Ladies that I'm talking about who have left or plan to leave are current developments. Ana left about one month ago looking for a club with more men who want more than food and drink. Bella left the club last week and is now at YY. Rose has been experimenting with other clubs and I'm not sure what her current situation is, but she hasn't been at LR for at least 3 weeks. Newly returned petite Sophia said she requires more clients to work in a club. As you say, Sara is trying GT, where many women stay even with bad business because it's a status to say they are a GT woman.

I think most ladies with good regular clients prefer a longer session with a nice client, selling a faux relationship to the men who drink a lot and act a bit unruly. This limits the amount of unpaid time, seducing clients, waiting for keys, showering. Although one lady told me she prefers 30-60 minute sessions so she can avoid emotional connections. I like chocolate and strawberries with my pancakes too.

One of the lasies I talked to told me that if the club doesn't so something to attract more men during the week and earlier in the days that it risks losing more women and will have a hard time to survive. She may be the most capable manager in the club at the moment.

[Sirioja]

Before new door policy which started on March / April 2017, LR was a club for regulars who came weekly for their girl. I spent nearly 2000 per month from about 20 January when she returned from her first holidays, to 17 March 2017 when she made her first mistake. She could send me message when she was free, but I left, I don t pay to be a number, she could stay angry.

I will never wait for Jane because for my weekly visits on 2016 and 2017, I never noticed her, but I didn't have to wait for Daria, nor Alyssa, nor my last regular, I didn't need to jump on them in LR entrance or where girls are paid, because all girls know where I always stay at LR, they even sometimes being me a stool.

What do girls prefer? A weekly regular, or new kind of LR clients, drinking all night, drunk to fuck them? At LR like at Sharks, some of the top girls don t want to work with night clients.

Many of the best girls: Jeni. Ro, Daria, Gigi, Karina, Alyssa, Melissa. Bu, left, then less regulars, then less business for girls, new clients give money to club for entry and alcohol, but not to girls.

Yes, Lily is Olga at Westside Frauenfeld, but can t compete for beauty with M. After Melika, Sara. De is trying GT, Antonella is trying elsewhere.

Business can t be good for girls with such new clients, why casting is so average on 2018.

Only pretty girls attract regulars, but without regulars back, pretty girls will never stay at LR.

I don't know what mean to pancake a girl who is full of energy for sex, my favorite pancake in FKK land, is at PSR, with chocolate.

[BigBuddy69]

Who are the "leaving" girls? Maybe they'll come back when they'll realize that the business is not better in other clubs.

Lili the Russian girl works now in Westside club, Switzerland under the name Olga (I saw it on ijsb). You can recognize her on the pics of the website.

[Chongmal]

After two nights at LR, I will say that a few more ladies have informed me they intend to move on to new clubs after the holidays, and I can report that one I saw last weekend was at YinYang yesterday when I stopped by. She takes with her a couple regular bears, which will open a few more seats on the couches on Sunday afternoons. A loss of a couple more key women without high level recruitment could cause great distress for the club. I hope we can find a way to keep these nice lady's around. What is required are bears who want to session as well as eat and drink.

I also heard that part of the LR management and VIP guests were at YY checking things out. I hope the idea of making the bar a non-smoking area catches on. Facility wise, LR can't compete without major construction, but I feel much more welcomed by the staff and ladies at LR, even though I did not enjoy my Saturday evening. Maybe I will just become a 7 pm limited grandpa bear, LOL.

[TheRugdr]

Hi!

Can you desribe Melika.

I agree with you about Celine, she IS a real spinner. When was the last time you spotted her in LR? I was there this Sunday and Monday and did not see her.

T.

Yes, Celine is great. Total spinner and a lot of fun. She once told me she usually only works Thursday through Sunday, but comes in later (4 pm or so) on Thursdays. Other days she prefers to start earlier. I think she is taking this Easter weekend off though.

[Takedown]

I was only at these three places. So that was my opinion based on what I saw within a 7-day time span. I was supposed to do some exploring and visit Acapulco but I did not make it. Next trip. So, that is my observations based on my recent visit to the three places, twice to Sharks, once to LR and once to GT within about a 8-day time span of each other.

For what it's worth, I think your rankings were spot on. Especially if you remove any bias due to better service and pricing from regulars. Sharks was best for optics but GT had less upsells and the LR optics were garbage. Sounds like LR optics has gotten a little bit better in the past month. I'll see for myself in a week.

[HungryStud101]

We must live in two different simulations. GT is nowhere near a top 3 in .

I was only at these three places. So that was my opinion based on what I saw within a 7-day time span. I was supposed to do some exploring and visit Acapulco but I did not make it. Next trip. So, that is my observations based on my recent visit to the three places, twice to Sharks, once to LR and once to GT within about a 8-day time span of each other.

By all means, please state your opinion and thank you for enlightening me a bit. I want to go to those other places as well and investigate.

I stated that this is my 4th trip to FKK land just to say that I haven't just fallen off the back of the turn-up truck. I have practiced pay for play in 5 countries in Europe, 3 countries in North America, four in Asia Including Thailand) and I have hobbied quite a bit in Brazil and I have even had a few experiences in BA Argentina....I think that is it. So I offer a unique experience. I like to explore.

I think I still like Montreal best for consistent GFE service and I think the best combination of bargain pricing and service and looks is Brazil but I still think that the FKK experience is still among the best in the world and I will say that Melika of LR is right up there with one of the best ever porn Star experiences I have ever had. In fact, it will get better and better in my mind and I will probably think about her until next trip. I will return, hunt her down, and re-session and probably be disappointed because 2nd dates are typically a disappointment for me...oh well.

[Chongmal]

On a positive note, I had two nice sessions earlier in the day. First session was with petite Sonia, who works from opening to about 8 pm. Kissing was soft and sensual but not really FK. She showed good energy in multiple positions. She gave me an accurate 2 minute warning and we finished up the session. Risk of repeat 65%.

My second session was a repeat with Alice. This young lady gave me a lot of couch time Friday night and again Saturday. I enjoyed my session with her last week and this one was equally as good. Risk of repeat, already did that.

I left the club and went for some recovery time at the hotel. Returned to a club full of bears from multiple cultures. I'm not sure why the large groups of men descend on this club to consume mass quantities of alcohol on Saturday night. For the first time in many months I'm not enjoying the environment. Men shouting at women, men and bar tenders shouting with each other, I think some men were just shouting at the lights. I remember going to a club with 6 friends and we were denied entry because we were in a large group and large groups were deemed as potential problems. I now understand this rationale. In my opinion, management is failing to attract horny men earlier in the day and on other days of the week. I know several nice women who have left in search of more business. Two Friday nights in a row the men were outnumbered heavily by women and on Saturday night the women face a hard crowd and wait times for the keys.

Food today was ok. For breakfast I ordered two eggs and two slices of bacon. The eggs were cooked nicely and I received about 10 slices of bacon. Afternoon menu was fish and the evening was small ham hocks with mashed potatoes and sour crout. Spaghetti carbonara and Bolognese are offered throughout the day. There are attempts to re-arrange the dining tables, but again management is failing. To get in and out of one table, you have to dodge a hanging light. Tonight is the Championship boxing match, but it's not available on the TV from what I've been told. Do I need to comment on failures again.

[Chongmal]

I visited the club today. A few of my favorites have departed for Easter holiday. I missed Celine, Antonia, Sara, Rose (hasn't been seen for a couple weeks) and a couple others but most of the regulars are still there. I saw two women I didn't recognize, I was told both are German, both are blond, but I didn't book either. Newbies weren't in my plan for today. I'm usually traveling outside Germany during Easter, so I was surprised to see the club so empty of bears on a Friday night and to hear from the bar staff and reception that this is normal.

I did session with petite blond Sophia. Very light FK, not as active during the session as I hoped. For me, an average session, I will repeat if I see no other top desires.

Second session was another blonde Romanian, whose name escapes me at the moment. There was a heavy pre-sales on the couch. We agreed to terms and off we went. This lady has a few tatoos, one of some spiritual hand on her stomach. She provided light FK, nice caresses and when she started BJ I was in heaven. She didn't offer extras for me but the BJ had me on the edge so we stayed with it until I reached an ultimate pleasure. I'm likely to repeat with her during sliw days.

I hope some list bears show up tomorrow to assist me in keeping the ladies company. Tonight, bears were outnumbered all night.

[Pistons]

For eye candy:

1. Sharks.

2. GTs.

3. LR.

For service and to negotiate a 30 min 50 Euro GFE date:

1. LR.

2. GT.

3. Sharks.

We must live in two different simulations. GT is nowhere near a top 3 in either of my two such lists. Even cheapscate Aca is ahead on both accounts. Well at least if you avoid the time cheating at Aca. But maybe it depends on which type of girls we like. Top service in NRW should probably technically be somewhere like Babylon or Sixsense. And optically I have Oceans, YY and Aca, or even Samya ahead. Note I haven't been to LR. And recently Sharks was hell to negotiate prices with a few of the top girls, so it is definitely not a top 3 in negotiation as it probably used to be until this winter. But both Sharks and Oase with full lineups probably deserves to be in top 3 for optics mainly due to size of lineup.

[HungryStud101]

Hi!

Can you desribe Melika.

I agree with you about Celine, she IS a real spinner. When was the last time you spotted her in LR? I was there this Sunday and Monday and did not see her.

T.

Saturday, March 11th I met Celine.

Milika or Melika, or Milinka or Melinka. Not quite sure. She is about 5'6" and thicker girl of German descent. She has long blond hair with black roots and fake DD's breasts with pierced nipples and a lots of tattoos and a bigger porn star ass. On her ass cheek she has a set of red-lips tattoo'ed. She kisses like I imagine the porn star Seka would have kissed Ron Jeremy. Her blow jobs are the same and she put my dick on the 10-day disabled list. If you see this one, run and don't walk and claim her.

[Tjohoo]

if you get to LR look up a German girl named Melika or Milika....she was probably my favorite of the trip. She is like a German Porn star. If you like spinners than there is a Turkish/German girl who is a friend of Milika named Celine

Hi!

Can you desribe Melika.

I agree with you about Celine, she IS a real spinner. When was the last time you spotted her in LR? I was there this Sunday and Monday and did not see her.

T.

[ExpatLover]

I just did the comparison of Sharks to LR and GTs in the NRW. Reading my four recent reports will help. If you look in the reports of distinction you will find a link to Day 1 and Day 2 at Sharks and then Day 3 at the Living Room. The next week I made a visit to Golden Time which to me is in between Sharks and LR. There is a link to that report as well I was at Oase the year prior and I had 5 previous visits there and one at World but that info is dated.

In the NRW the clubs are smaller with less girls to choose from. Beer is included in the price of the entry which is nice. Extras, like cum-in-mouth, prostrate massage, and interactive lesbo show is an extra 25 Euros a piece instead of 50 euros in Hesse. I also think that there are more non-Romanian girls available and specifically more German girls in the NRW clubs I was at. The downside is that there is a little less eye candy at LR but still plenty of do-able girls there. I thought GTs eye candy was nearly as good as Sharks. I also thought that the ratio of girls to hobbyists was lower at the NRW clubs but at the same time, the girls were less aggressive in the NRW. It was easier to negotiate a 30 minute 50 Euro GFE date in the NRW than at Sharks or Oase. Problem with GTs the past two years is that it gets crowded fast and the wait for a room can be an hour. This used to be a good thing when girls would pet and DFK outside the room but those days are over. So get to GTs early.

A lot of guys will make a big point that GT and and LR are sauna clubs while Sharks, Oase, and World are FKKs. This means for practical purposes that the sauna club girls will have more clothing on while the FKK girls are totally naked. Actually, if you are there for the sauna than make sure you head over to Sharks and get involved in Dieter's Sauna team.

The German girls are also mostly Romanian but they are younger so they learned German quite fast, for me Samya is a great club with a lot of very sexy girls providing GFE at the highest level. For party it is the club to be after 9 PM.