SC Sauna Club Living Room - Kaarst

[HungryStud101]

It would be helpful to know what are pros and cons of Frankfurt FKKs vs NRW FKKs.

I just did the comparison of Sharks to LR and GTs in the NRW. Reading my four recent reports will help. If you look in the reports of distinction you will find a link to Day 1 and Day 2 at Sharks and then Day 3 at the Living Room. The next week I made a visit to Golden Time which to me is in between Sharks and LR. There is a link to that report as well I was at Oase the year prior and I had 5 previous visits there and one at World but that info is dated.

In the NRW the clubs are smaller with less girls to choose from. Beer is included in the price of the entry which is nice. Extras, like cum-in-mouth, prostrate massage, and interactive lesbo show is an extra 25 Euros a piece instead of 50 euros in Hesse. I also think that there are more non-Romanian girls available and specifically more German girls in the NRW clubs I was at. The downside is that there is a little less eye candy at LR but still plenty of do-able girls there. I thought GTs eye candy was nearly as good as Sharks. I also thought that the ratio of girls to hobbyists was lower at the NRW clubs but at the same time, the girls were less aggressive in the NRW. It was easier to negotiate a 30 minute 50 Euro GFE date in the NRW than at Sharks or Oase. Problem with GTs the past two years is that it gets crowded fast and the wait for a room can be an hour. This used to be a good thing when girls would pet and DFK outside the room but those days are over. So get to GTs early.

A lot of guys will make a big point that GT and and LR are sauna clubs while Sharks, Oase, and World are FKKs. This means for practical purposes that the sauna club girls will have more clothing on while the FKK girls are totally naked. Actually, if you are there for the sauna than make sure you head over to Sharks and get involved in Dieter's Sauna team. That is outstanding. I didn't see anything like this at LR or GT.

For eye candy:

1. Sharks.

2. GTs.

3. LR.

For service and to negotiate a 30 min 50 Euro GFE date:

1. LR.

2. GT.

3. Sharks.

if you get to LR look up a German girl named Melika or Milika....she was probably my favorite of the trip. She is like a German Porn star. If you like spinners than there is a Turkish/German girl who is a friend of Milika named Celine. She is tied for my favorite spinner of the trip. I also really wanted to do Sara and a few others at LR. It is just that Melika broke my dick. So the point is that there are plenty of good looking girls worth doing at all three places. To me it is like asking what kind of ice cream do you like?

[Pistons]

Hi fellows,

I have been to a few FKKs in NRW last year. This time I want to try in Frankfurt also.

As I normally land in Frankfurt so this can be easier for me but I have read a lot of good things about NRW FKKs.

It would be helpful to know what are pros and cons of Frankfurt FKKs vs NRW FKKs.

Thanks.

Frankfurt has fewer clubs, but the top clubs like sharks and Oase are bigger and has more girls than anything you find in NRW. The ratio of top girls to total amount of girls are about the same throughout both Hessen and NRW as a whole.

Maybe one can also say that the top Frankfurt clubs are more the standard of what one can expect from an FKK, while the NRW clubs usually has one or two flaws and can be considered more as niche clubs.

There is nowadays also slightly more upselling in Frankfurt than in NRW.

Hessen clubs have more tourists than NRW, while NRW seems to sometimes be a Turkish conclave in the middle of Europe.

[SoftsMann]

Hi fellows,

I have been to a few FKKs in NRW last year. This time I want to try in Frankfurt also.

As I normally land in Frankfurt so this can be easier for me but I have read a lot of good things about NRW FKKs.

It would be helpful to know what are pros and cons of Frankfurt FKKs vs NRW FKKs.

Thanks.

[Sirioja]

The club is linked to GT but never had the same restrictive door policy as Brggen.

Until 2016, door policy at LR: no dark skin and really not many Turkish, but like Sharks, World, even more and more at Oase, LR would be empty now at night without Turkish. Even at VIP GT, sometimes few dark skin or Turkish.

Turkish really make some clubs business, less for girls, buying bottles.

[Chongmal]

LR is small brother of GT, but it can't anymore afford to select clients, many Turkish at night, but they don't make problems. Without them, like at World, Sharks, Aca, Samya, Oceans, Magnum, Dolce Vita, LR would be empty at night. I remember on one night on October 2017, at about 2 am, I was the only not Turkish in the lounge.

Turkish Germans are the largest minority population in Germany, about 2.5 million people. This is also reported as the largest concentrated Turkish population outside of Turkey. In NRW is is reported that there are approximately a half million Turks. Of these approximately 30% are males of age that visit FKK / Sauna clubs. Occasionally some nice Turkish women choose to work the clubs, and I never hear any complaints about them invading. The other minority (or at some hours in some clubs they are the majority) men you report seeing in the clubs are from ethnic groups that make up a significant percentage of the population. When they arrive, it appears they bring a significant amount of cash and are of an ethnic group that some of the ladies seek out. The only issues I've had in any clubs with men of these ethnic groups were men using smart phones in video calls, and the lady I was with told them it was forbidden. The men responded roughly and there was a tense moment but the left the area we were at and were later corrected by management. The same thing happened again with a group of young German men. There was also a Turkish man at GT (say it's not so) who booked the lady of my choice for 7 hours. He wanted a day virgin so I couldn't even play early before he was ready and I sure wasn't going to wait in the doorway between the lounge and reception for her to come back.

Last time I was at YY a guy pancaked Kitty for 3.5 hours. It was the longest 3.5 hours of my hobbiest career and worth every € I spent. I felt bad for all the guys not waiting for her to return. She pointed a few out to me and said they couldn't wait to catch her. She was pulled into the seat of another bear within minutes of arriving back in the bar. I degress, though, this is the LR forum.

For me there are some recent improvements to the optics at LR. I tried to cover them all to gaurantee their earnings or perceived potential earnings were high enough so the stay again through a slow week so I can finish the bucket list with success. The problem is, new ladies keep arriving and adding their names on the list.

Sirioja, your favorite manager at LR has a special girl who works the floor, so while he watches football you can find and seduce her for hours and he will never know until she can no longer get pleasure from him. In recent days she stays close to your spot. I wish that he and the rest of the management would spend less time watching football, having relations with the girls and either take a course on sauna, water heater and electrical maintenance or spend the money to hire a real technician instead of having the cleaning guys try to fix it. I will never forget the cleaning guy using a hair dryer on 50 meters of extension cord trying to dry out one of the main electrical boxes. Yes, while the club was open.

[Sirioja]

LR.

So first off, my theory about LR is that there is a certain "class" about the woman here. 90% of them carry themselves a certain way. "real woman behavior", if you will. At most other clubs, maybe 30% of the women will act this way, whereas nearly everyone at LR carries themselves like this.

Anyway, so I have not been to LR since my very first trip to FKKs a few years back. I stayed there 2 hours then seeing nothing interesting, it didn't have the pure amount of eye candy like sharks, nor is it overtly comfortable and laid back to me like babylon, nor the country club atmosphere like GT, and frankly, it was a simple Living Room. So I left early then.

This time, I spent most of the day there trying to see what I was missing out on. Lineup was pretty ordinary (mix of 8+s, some 7's, etc) but then I observed how many of these women carried themselves. Most walked / strutted very well in their heels; even the younger ones. Very mature place, for the most part. That maturity also contributes to making most of them seem older than they probably are. But very courteous group of women and generally was not negative when I turned down a session..

LR is small brother of GT, but it can't anymore afford to select clients, many Turkish at night, but they don't make problems. Without them, like at World, Sharks, Aca, Samya, Oceans, Magnum, Dolce Vita, LR would be empty at night. I remember on one night on October 2017, at about 2 am, I was the only not Turkish in the lounge.

Except one guy who prefer to watch bundesliga to rather to work, LR staff is very friendly, like at GT.

On end of 2016, I chose a girl, for her woman look, not little girl look, and good manners. I remember how she did thank a member who told her I just arrived on a Thursday evening. She claimed she would never go with Turkish, Albanians, Romanians and Arabs, but she learned so much to love their money, ready for public foreplay, no more elegance and charm for me, so even she was my best girl for my tastes with about 50 1 h30 rooms on 6 months she worked and really no need to hunt her, I preferred to stop, because I couldn't look at her anymore like a woman, so as I said to her: no more desirable for me. Long time now, I didn't notice a really elegant girl for look at LR, even Luana, Linda, Amira and Maria are pretty, but no sophisticated elegance, nothing impressive for fatal attraction for my eyes. Average casting since end of 201 .

But I'm proud of my bad guy behavior, to pay for her time to eat pizza for our second 1 h30 room of the day on September, at the end of our foreplay games, of course it cost me about to lose 10 mn not fucking her, also when I went to buy her something intimate between our 2 roms on our last time on October, it was my respect for her, when her behavior deserved my respect. Money versus good manners.

Not a top beauty, but I found a elegant behavior new girl on my last visit.

[Rogue Nation]

Also Surprised to see they let black guys in there as well as indians. Thought they had the same no colored policy like in GT.

The club is linked to GT but never had the same restrictive door policy as Brüggen.

[HeyyyyyyPaul]

LR.

So first off, my theory about LR is that there is a certain "class" about the woman here. 90% of them carry themselves a certain way. "real woman behavior", if you will. At most other clubs, maybe 30% of the women will act this way, whereas nearly everyone at LR carries themselves like this.

Anyway, so I have not been to LR since my very first trip to FKKs a few years back. I stayed there 2 hours then seeing nothing interesting, it didn't have the pure amount of eye candy like sharks, nor is it overtly comfortable and laid back to me like babylon, nor the country club atmosphere like GT, and frankly, it was a simple Living Room. So I left early then.

This time, I spent most of the day there trying to see what I was missing out on. Lineup was pretty ordinary (mix of 8+s, some 7's, etc) but then I observed how many of these women carried themselves. Most walked / strutted very well in their heels; even the younger ones. Very mature place, for the most part. That maturity also contributes to making most of them seem older than they probably are. But very courteous group of women and generally was not negative when I turned down a session.

Sort of like the $3 k a night escort that you take out, only these cost 100 e an hour. This place provides an excellent illusion that one is fucking a classy lady. Just short of being stuck up, in my opinion, and that's obviously a good thing.

A unique place and atmosphere, no doubt, but seeing as I like much less serious places like babylon or more playful like sharks, probably won't be coming back to LR anytime soon.

Also Surprised to see they let black guys in there as well as indians. Thought they had the same no colored policy like in GT.

[Chongmal]

Slim, pretty Maria with beautiful eyes, is back? Would be good for eyes pleasure, like Luana, or Amira, or Linda but not often.

Sharks girls will have to improve at LR.

Yes, Maria is back.

The one that I spent time with has adjusted to the LR standards of service and pricing without issue. New Sonia was busy Saturday but left early before I had the opportunity the catch her. She is quite attractive for me and several other men. Body and face similar to Alexia who left, but even more attractive for me. I went back to the club Sunday with intentions to get to know her better. She was in the bar when I arrived but was booked by the first bear through the door. As I waited, I was distracted by Bella, returning from a two week absence.

I have teased with Bella for nearly 6 months and my body said, today is the day. For me, this woman's body hits all of the requirements, even if she isn't the most beautiful. She had just unseated pretty Sonia as my top pick of the day. In the room, for me, all normal services were offered and some extras, but none required. As always, YMMV. She was directly into ensuring my pleasure with great success. I left the room asking her, why did we wait so long to do this. Her reply was that waiting was my choice not hers. Risk to repeat is high.

Even after my session with Bella, my desires flared again when my so sexy new "eve" walked in. Again, she was open for my ideas, but not for extras, and I couldn't get her to give me a sexy lap dance. She did appreciate my requests over another bear's, who had a daddy daughter request that she had no desire to fulfill, so she refused him causing an end to their session. She told me even though she does this job she still has some standards. Every time I session with her the service seems to improve. I left the room happy and exhausted, knowing I will return.

For my third session, I selected Ami. For me another top session. She teased me to the edge multiple times. She told me that she doesn't provide the two most requested extras and not all services are offered equally to all clients, so she stated that with her YMMV. With me, she did provide kissing but only very very LFK. I left after a very pleasurable session and her request for compensation matched the services provided according to local standard rates.

I returned to the bar and sweet Sonia approached. We discussed services offered and things seem promising. Temptation was high but my body suggested I wait until my next visit to the club. I needed some recovery time but also needed to prepare for the long drive. I cried mercy and told her to expect me to be hunting her on my next visit.

As I was getting ready to leave the club I spotted Maria in the bar, Celine coming back from a room, Ruby headed to the tent and Emma going into the restaurant. I really enjoyed my Sunday afternoon. For me a good selection of ladies, even though the number present was not so high at opening. There weren't too many bears so the odds for me to get ladies of my choice were high. My pre thought out schedule went 2 for 3 with no waiting. Had I known Bella would be there she would have been on the pre-game roster so I left with only my own body to blame for not going 100% on the day, but I still left 100% happy.

[BigBuddy69]

Thanks Chongmal. Maria is a sweet person, good to know she's back. I'll check this Alice next month and maybe I know your mystery favorite girl.

[Sirioja]

Slim, pretty Maria with beautiful eyes, is back? Would be good for eyes pleasure, like Luana, or Amira, or Linda but not often.

Sharks girls will have to improve at LR.

[Chongmal]

Yeah, you don't say. Lot of the girls in this place are "privileged".

LR has some diehard fans, but I'll write a contrarian review of this place soon.

I don't understand your use of the word "privileged" but I'm might be what you call a fan of the club. There are some girls who won't hunt any man, the men have to go to them. I know someone will say they never wait, women always come to them, blah, blah blah. Jane is like this, the man has to make first contact. I keep trying to get her to come to me but she won't. She knows I want her but she doesn't come to me to even say Hello,. I know this is her personal rule, but I want her to decide one day that she will have to say Hello, first. It's a game I can stop at any time by walking up to her and saying go get the key. Some people say this type of behavior from a woman is arrogant, I call it a personal standard. I'm ok with her choosing to be proud, so we play the game.

I like the club because reception knows me taking care of my peculiar requests without my asking, the bartenders know my drinking habits so there is no confusion, the German cooks are really good to keep me fed and there are always at least 1 or 10 ladies to tempt me.

Yesterday I saw two ladies migrating from Sharks. Petite Maria is back after a long absence, very tempting. Casey and Sybal are back after a short time away. Bella is back after two weeks of vacation. Rose is still not seen. I'm not sure of her status. If anyone knows please pass it along because she is missed.

I sessioned with very nice Alice who says she came from Sharks. We had a 40 minute wait for a room but she stuck with me on the couch saying I'm here for you. She did not offer extras but all normal services were included. If you like DFK you can try. For me this lady is a good choice for it. We were in the room for a very active, passionate GFE. She described her style of choice as wanting to Make Love. To me, this requires a serious feeling which isn't there but we played the roles, starting slow and building in passion until my body was melting and shaking with exhaustion. A short break with some.

Continued* petting and more kissing and I was ready to continue. On with a nice oral session with a bit of hand assist and I was again back in deep pleasure. Services rendored and time spent matched the requested compensation according to standard local rates. I asked her why the move from Sharks. She told me the club is smaller but here she feels more like she's with friends and family.

My other session was with one of my favorites. I'm at a lack of words to describe how rare it is to find a woman like this. You may want me to report her name and services. I say that it's nearly Easter, so the challenge is to find this good egg. Yesterday your odds were about one in 50. What I like, everything. A Beautiful woman, correct service but no extras, plays the games I like and great before and after service. Chances of repeating, 100% as soon as I see her again.

Of note, many women I spoke with are leaving soon for Easter Holidays. At midnight it was reported a two hour wait. At 2 am the waits were 40 minutes. I've heard rumors there will be some work done to the club in the future. Part of what was requested in the permits was denied by the planning commission. The girls were asking why so many men come to a club like this to eat and drink but never go to the room.

[Sirioja]

Very interesting. I am the same. I do sometimes 4 or 5 rooms before a girl is so awesome that I cannot help and go over the edge. But I never force it. It has to cum on its own. That is the reason why LR is not ideal for me. Either the LU is lousy or it is a slow time. Or it is crowded. It is really tough to make 4-5 awesome rooms in 3 hours. As there are too much waiting required.

OR someone let me know what great times are there for LR?

I never fuck 4 or 5 girls in 3 hours, but when I find a attractive girl, if her vagina has potential, I like to fuck her for hours, so, with or without condom, I control to stay at the edge of cumming. I remember my so sporty German escort on December and January, I fucked her for hours, nothing difficult compare to climbing my mountains with heart over 140 pulses for hours, what a stamina she had, never asking to stop, at least I didn't make blue marks on her body, but I knew when she was exhausted because then, she closed her vagina with strong muscle, I had to open with my fingers.

Can be funny with girls who want to resist to lose control, you feel them putting all their strength to resist at the beginning, when they become tired, less control, when they are exhausted really changing behavior when losing control. Enjoyable when girl kiss you, with chicken skin, hard dark nipples full of blood. Good game.

[Chongmal]

OR someone let me know what great times are there for LR?

I would say in the afternoon any day in the week is a good time for several women, several rooms and little waiting. 2 pm is a sweet spot for me because by this time some of the nice early arrivals and in place for two or three hours, a group of nice ladies start at 2 pm, then again at 4 pm and another two or three at 6 pm. I can always find nice enough ladies at LR. Sonia who arrived from Sharks this week, Alice who came from Sharks two months ago, Micky who is working now for three weeks, returning petite Sophia and Maria. These are all nice women.

[ExpatLover]

Actually those kind of girls shouldn't be allowed in LR and sent in GT (or worse in Sharks) instead. The place is not perfect (facilities are minimal considering the fact that you pay almost the same price as in a bigger club), there are not enough rooms, the main room is small and gets filled with smoke, the LU is mainly romanian but at least the management considers the guests.

Many Romanian girls are very nice and sweet, also they are very clean, my best friends outside the clubs are Romanian girls never have to complain about cheating or something else.