FKK Samya - Cologne

[Pistons]

If Katea is the worst upseller at a club, that club is doing something right. If you could put the Samya party culture inside a hanger layout like Oceans, you would have a club that easily rivals Sharks and Oase.

Well, YMMV. I have personally met two or three upsellers at Samya, but Katea never upsold me.

[Takedown]

I reported this earlier, and reiterate. There are new girls at Samya, and they have their own prices, and charges extra. I noticed the group doing this, and one girl who could hardly speak English with rld services, and another on previous visit from Wellcum, Austria charging extra for kissin.

This upsell is no different from other clubs if their quote is the same. Just different location.

This means Samya accepts girls like any other clubs. Several top service providers were not present, and couple of them were at SixSens. Reception lady wasn't the one I normally see and same for the manager. I wonder if something has changed?

There can be new girls who do this, but will they last? Management can review girls after trial period and determine if they are allowed to stay. I have witnessed first hand a WG being pulled aside by management and being reprimanded by their behavior towards the customers. So unless they've changed managers, I don't expect the culture to have suddenly changed. These new girls may just not have been reprimanded yet. I'll be there next week to see for myself.

[PussyLiccker]

I reported this earlier, and reiterate. There are new girls at Samya, and they have their own prices, and charges extra. I noticed the group doing this, and one girl who could hardly speak English with rld services, and another on previous visit from Wellcum, Austria charging extra for kissin.

This upsell is no different from other clubs if their quote is the same. Just different location.

This means Samya accepts girls like any other clubs. Several top service providers were not present, and couple of them were at SixSens. Reception lady wasn't the one I normally see and same for the manager. I wonder if something has changed?

I was there on the least busiest days, and with not much men to go around the girls, majority of the girls want a session, some more assertive than others. They want to make money, and get desperate if business is low. I had many girls trying to get my business.

When fairly busy, girls are occupied. Sure, girls dance at times, but they are there to make maoney. Some lower interest, and others got their bottled service clients, or a whale.

[McAdonis]

As Chongmal and Takedown confirm, Oceans reception is "sharky". So what type of example does that set for Oceans WGs? Is Oceans reception going to discipline the WGs behaving badly, then they themselves are just as bad? Probably not. Oceans WGs understand that they can behave how they want. Naturally, word will spread and this will attract the wrong types of WGs.

I will say this. The WGs at Samya have always seemed less money-focused to me. Or they feel less pressure and less stressed about making money. Compared to other clubs, Samya WGs are smiling, dancing and "appear" to be having fun in the lounge.

The Samya WGs who upsell BBBJ or DFK are probably in the minority, I suspect. I believe there is also a faction of WGs who simply do not offer BBBJ or DFK. Again, it almost seems like some WGs at Samya are not that interested or concerned about making money.

[OmarRap]

I had something of that sort happen at Sharks. Somehow I got chages on my wristband as I was leaving. I told the reception lady that I didn't purchase anything, but she treated me like I did which was incredibly rude.

Did you have to pay anything in the end? That is, she believed you that you did not rack up a bill but was rude about it.

[PussyLiccker]

I hate writing about another club under a clubs thread, but the topic is already opened and I can't not put my opinion in. Oceans is the only club I've been to where the shakedown is started by the reception. Many times I've told the story about my visit with a friend. Same entry cost, same non alcoholic drinks, same meal. When we left, he had a substantial bill when the lady at reception scanned his key. This is why I rarely go to Oceans after.

I had something of that sort happen at Sharks. Somehow I got chages on my wristband as I was leaving. I told the reception lady that I didn't purchase anything, but she treated me like I did which was incredibly rude.

[Takedown]

I hate writing about another club under a clubs thread, but the topic is already opened and I can't not put my opinion in. Oceans is the only club I've been to where the shakedown is started by the reception. Many times I've told the story about my visit with a friend. Same entry cost, same non alcoholic drinks, same meal. When we left, he had a substantial bill when the lady at reception scanned his key. This is why I rarely go to Oceans after.

9 out of 10 mongers agree, Oceans is a pretty crappy place. Like McA said, the management of Samya tries to make the customers feel welcomed, especially at night when the managers are there. They also hold the girls to standards like start and end times for their shifts. Girls have to write down the time they start a room, eliminating the ability to cheat on time. Only a handful of clubs actually do that. While I've heard that BBBJ upsells happen with some girls, I've never had a girl try to straight up rip me off there. I can't say the same for Oceans. If Katea is the worst upseller at a club, that club is doing something right. If you could put the Samya party culture inside a hanger layout like Oceans, you would have a club that easily rivals Sharks and Oase.

[Chongmal]

Oceans has both good and bad. Its obvious management are far more loose with the girls there, than at other clubs. So the ymmv factor increases, but I doubt they encourage bad service. Actually going that far sounds a bit illogical from what I know from the girls there. Some girls even tell me which other girls are known for bad service, so there is high discrepancy among them too. That is both a good sign, and a bad sign I suppose.

I hate writing about another club under a clubs thread, but the topic is already opened and I can't not put my opinion in. Oceans is the only club I've been to where the shakedown is started by the reception. Many times I've told the story about my visit with a friend. Same entry cost, same non alcoholic drinks, same meal. When we left, he had a substantial bill when the lady at reception scanned his key. This is why I rarely go to Oceans after.

[Sirioja]

Katea is really not selective, to make money, like too many girls, who are then much less attractive for me.

[Pistons]

Management at Oceans tries to hustle tourists. They don't quality control the WGs. Might as allow like pick-pocket gypsies work there. Hustling of tourists by WGs is condoned (maybe even encouraged) by Oceans management, so I see no reason to support this business. Boycott, I say.

Samya's management looks after customers. Thanks to hand-on management, Samya WGs are honest about what they provide. Their menu maybe limited. They just simply say "I don't make this" if you inquire about additional services. So the WGs don't appear money hungry trying to sell you extras. Or react negatively if you decline.

Katea (RU), according to what I've been told, will attempt to charge for extras. But most men that go with her seem to be happy and she does long rooms. I assume she waives for longer rooms. But if you do 1 hour 55 minutes, she may try to pretend that you went 2 hour 30 minutes. She backs off in a lady-like way when she realizes that you were properly accounting the time. At other clubs, WGs go "street gangster" and try to bully the client. She appears to have some class. Inside the room, she is not going to ask you every 5 minutes if you want extend time or beg you to purchase extras. However, she knows how to turn on the charm, be sweet, sell the illusion, and make customers fall in love. That is a different type of danger.

YMMV. With me, Katea (samya) was incredibly honest telling me when I had 5 minutes left of my time each time I was with her. But I was also told she didn't like everyone she went with (basically high ymmv factor). Several other girls at different clubs tell me the same stories. Chemistry needs to be right. One german palace girl I had bad chemistry with donesnt want to repeat with me again also. Just due to bad chemistry in the room. Not everyone clicks.

Oceans has both good and bad. Its obvious management are far more loose with the girls there, than at other clubs. So the ymmv factor increases, but I doubt they encourage bad service. Actually going that far sounds a bit illogical from what I know from the girls there. Some girls even tell me which other girls are known for bad service, so there is high discrepancy among them too. That is both a good sign, and a bad sign I suppose.

[KingOfBongo]

I'm not too bothered about "optics", excellent service is more important to me.

Thanks.

Then you might want to go to Babylon in Elsdorf which is closer from Brussels.

I used to think that girls out there were unattractive but it's not the case.

Karla and Mary are attractive enough. Services are excellent.

[BigBuddy69]

Samya is not a place where you'll find easily excellent service and yes girls will try to upsell, especially the BBBJ.

[McAdonis]

Management at Oceans tries to hustle tourists. They don't quality control the WGs. Might as allow like pick-pocket gypsies work there. Hustling of tourists by WGs is condoned (maybe even encouraged) by Oceans management, so I see no reason to support this business. Boycott, I say.

Samya's management looks after customers. Thanks to hand-on management, Samya WGs are honest about what they provide. Their menu maybe limited. They just simply say "I don't make this" if you inquire about additional services. So the WGs don't appear money hungry trying to sell you extras. Or react negatively if you decline.

Katea (RU), according to what I've been told, will attempt to charge for extras. But most men that go with her seem to be happy and she does long rooms. I assume she waives for longer rooms. But if you do 1 hour 55 minutes, she may try to pretend that you went 2 hour 30 minutes. She backs off in a lady-like way when she realizes that you were properly accounting the time. At other clubs, WGs go "street gangster" and try to bully the client. She appears to have some class. Inside the room, she is not going to ask you every 5 minutes if you want extend time or beg you to purchase extras. However, she knows how to turn on the charm, be sweet, sell the illusion, and make customers fall in love. That is a different type of danger.

[Canary]

I was thinking my last FKK visit of the year would be on 26th Oct at Sharks.

However it looks like I will be in Brussels at the end on November so I may well get another FKK visit.

I've only ever visited Artemis, Sharks & Oase. (preferred Sharks & Artemis).

My question is whether Samya is worth a visit (only 1 HR 40 from Brussels to Cologne on the train) & & how easy it is by taxi from Cologne railway station to Samya & Samya to Cologne airport?

I ask because recently there have been some "gloomy reports" on ISG regarding Samya which is putting me off & wondering whether I should instead fly to Berlin or Frankfurt for Artemis / Sharks?

I'm not too bothered about "optics", excellent service is more important to me.

Thanks.

[ExpatLover]

Any 'culture spill over' requires a girl spill over. Otherwise it is just a random thing. Although it is obvious that girls at one club have friends in 5 other clubs sometimes, and they communicate.

What can we do about it? I don't know. But we have the money, so better just avoid the poor performers. I believe it is more a problem with certain girls than with a certain clubs sometimes. Although the rules some set for upselling may be reason enough to skip a club if it goes above your willingness to pay. But saying which place is worst or best is harder and harder if many clubs raise prices or upsells simultaneously. Perhaps the whole sector will loose out. For me I will just stick a lot more to the girls I already know, and be more conservative on new girls before hearing some gossip about them.

Service is decreasing in so many clubs, Romanian girls are controlling the business and the managers of the clubs are just to weak to power back.