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  1. #1538
    Quote Originally Posted by Ableyone  [View Original Post]
    This question has come up numerous times, unfortunately no one posting it has come back to report how their visit went.
    Yes. Unfortunately.

    World, Palace, Sharks, Oase. At all these places you can bring your colleague with you. She'll have to pay the same entry as you, use the men's changing room, wear a robe and you won't be allowed to take another guy to the room. So: MFF yes. MMF no.

    HB.

  2. #1537
    Quote Originally Posted by RogeTheDodge  [View Original Post]
    I have read a number of the threads re FKK but cannot seem to find an answer to the question of whether anyone has seen a "female" in a FKK as a paying guest. If not as a single but perhaps as a couple?
    This question has come up numerous times, unfortunately no one posting it has come back to report how their visit went.

  3. #1536

    Female in a FKK as a paying guest

    Quote Originally Posted by RogeTheDodge  [View Original Post]
    Morning all. New to this forum so please forgive the direct approach.

    Having lived in Asia / US and Germany (albeit many years ago) my activities have been confined to UK and as such was not aware of this excellent site until very recently.

    Incredibly long story which I will not trouble you with but, in a nutshell.

    - will be in Frankfurt next month for work.

    - with a female colleague (the long story is about how she got to know about my hobby and me about hers!

    - I want to visit an FKK but so does she!

    We are not a couple nor are we swingers. We have threesome MFF in the past which was terrific.

    I have read a number of the threads re FKK but cannot seem to find an answer to the question of whether anyone has seen a "female" in a FKK as a paying guest. If not as a single but perhaps as a couple?

    Logic states that this is most unlikely as why would a FKK want to entertain ladies in this way as it is not a "swingers" club and the actual girls working there would probably be quite cross.

    Anyhow, any insights would be most welcome.

    Thanks,

    Roge
    Hi, Roge. Welcome on board. I did see female guest in FKK Oase once in a blue moon. However, I really don't know whether the female guest got in the action with any girls of FKK Oase. I don't know the price of any service for the female guest either. You really need to call the front desk of FKK Oase before your visit to make sure that you can get some services which you want. Good luck!

  4. #1535
    I have seen female guests in Oase a few times over the years, but very infrequently. Last November, one stayed with her male partner in the jacuzzi in full open view for a long time. It did not seem to bother the girls at all. Also, as they change in the men's changing room, they need not interact with the girls.

    They will be given a robe to wear to signify their special status.

  5. #1534

    Frankfurt FKK. Another newbie

    Morning all. New to this forum so please forgive the direct approach.

    Having lived in Asia / US and Germany (albeit many years ago) my activities have been confined to UK and as such was not aware of this excellent site until very recently.

    Incredibly long story which I will not trouble you with but, in a nutshell.

    - will be in Frankfurt next month for work.

    - with a female colleague (the long story is about how she got to know about my hobby and me about hers!

    - I want to visit an FKK but so does she!

    We are not a couple nor are we swingers. We have threesome MFF in the past which was terrific.

    I have read a number of the threads re FKK but cannot seem to find an answer to the question of whether anyone has seen a "female" in a FKK as a paying guest. If not as a single but perhaps as a couple?

    Logic states that this is most unlikely as why would a FKK want to entertain ladies in this way as it is not a "swingers" club and the actual girls working there would probably be quite cross.

    Anyhow, any insights would be most welcome.

    Thanks,

    Roge

  6. #1533
    Quote Originally Posted by PussyLiccker  [View Original Post]
    1.5 GB of data for 10? Where can I find this sim? I know you do NRW so I assume this sim doesn't drop out easily? Good coverage? With Deutsche Telecom (from T-mobile) sim, I get Edge at certain places around Duss, in some areas between Duss and GT. 1.5GB of 4G speeds?

    Does Waze have speed camera updates and alerts?

    As far as GPS, I have TomTom app on my smartphone, and it works well, and no need for data for it to work, although it will do a software license check from time to time if the device is legit which requires an internet connection. You do have to purchase the app, but it's priced much higher than a typical app. For me, it's worth it as I have other maps too like Netherlands in case I go to YY. Also, no worry for it to stop functioning if there is long period of data disconnection.
    Go to real Sb warehouse or some other supermarket / Saturn etc. They should have different SIMs hanging around the checkout counters. I think t-mobile now offers a 1 week flat rate for 10. TMO / Deutsche Telekom and Vodafone are your best bet in terms of reception. The other small players might be cheaper but you'll lose out on reception out in the countryside. I must admit that nowadays I don't even get a SIM as my work covers international roaming and I get LTE while on Telekom and Vodafone. In Aca, Telekom is your best bet.

    Waze, being crowdsourcing, is only as good as someone reporting speed camera locations. I've just been doing the following without problem (posted under 100 km/h, drive 5-10 km/h over, posted over 100 km/h, drive 15 km/h over). Once a lower speed limit comes up, break hard and fast, don't merely coast down. In NRW, the speed cameras I've seen are by the bridges crossing the Rhine and maybe some of the tunnels as well as one somewhere between the 535 and 46 near Wuppertal.

  7. #1532

    Summary of 5 days in FRA area

    I've posted most of my reports in the correct FKK threads, but I wanted to post a summary and thank you thread!

    First off. I really want to thank all of the regular and occasional posters in this section. Being a relative noob to the FKK scene, having this forum as a resource was the only way that my trip turned out as well as it did. My first trip to an FKK was last October during a work trip where I was somewhat bound to the city so I visited Mainhattan and Palace. I learned a lot from this forum and was able to have a good time. For this trip I knew I had more freedom and wanted to experience the clubs I didn't have a chance to experience on my prior trip. To maximize my experience I became a paid member so I could send / receive PM's (and to support the site) and even met up with a fellow ISGer for two nights during the trip.

    I spent 5 days in the FRA area, hitting 4 different clubs and having 18 sessions with 18 different women.

    Thurs. Dietzenbach (2 sessions) + Sharks (3 sessions).

    Fri. Sharks (3 sessions).

    Sat. Dietzenbach (1 session) + Oase (3 sessions).

    Sun. Oase (3 sessions).

    Mon. Mainhattan (3 sessions).

    I will echo some of the other posters suggestions of pacing yourself, and even taking a day off if you need it. By Saturday evening I was running out of gas and 2 out of 3 sessions I couldn't finish, but still had a really good time. I recovered by Sun / Mon and all further sessions were to completion, but a few of them had to be longer / GFE type sessions to get there. Also echo that a spend / fancy hotel is a waste. A good clean inexpensive room is fine since you won't be there much, and better to spend the $$ on a rental with a good GPS. I found the NavTeq GPS in the car to be more convenient than my Android phone with GPS, but either will work.

    Planning on being back in the region in late July. Might hit up either Dusseldorf or Stuttgart for a day or two that trip.

  8. #1531
    Quote Originally Posted by SocratesNY  [View Original Post]
    Mainhattan: I read that it was a smaller club, but it didn't feel that much smaller than Oase or Sharks. Maybe it's due to the outdoor area being closed or the layout. I think it is mostly smaller due to having less rooms than the other two big clubs in the area. I really liked this club as it's pretty intimate, very friendly, have a smoking area and an area where the girls seem to leave you be. Not that it was much of an issue, as most of the girls weren't that aggressive. Mainhattan definitely have the vibe of a strip club (darker lighting), with a small spa area thrown in. The facilities and dcor was decent (6-7 out of 10) and the food was the best of the 3 clubs I went to (7 out of 10). The lineup of girls I saw this Friday was definitely top notch and the best of the 3 clubs for my tastes (slim and pretty model types). There were at least 50+ girls there, with at least 7-10 girls in the 8-10 range in looks and at least 10-20 more in the 7-8 range in looks.

    My first advice to any new visitor planning to visit multiple clubs on a multi-day trip is to pace yourself. I saw 7 girls on my first day, 5 girls on my 2nd day and 3 girls on my 3rd day. I was so worn out that I actually had trouble getting it up for the first time in my life on the evening of my 2nd day. I generally have very good endurance and can go 3-5 times a day without any medical help, but by the end of the 3rd day, my penis was crying "help!" I plan to bring some Viagra for my next trip.

    On my next trip in May, I plan to visit for a week and a half and am going to visit 2-3 clubs in Dusseldorf / Cologne area. What are the top clubs there ATM? The clubs on my radar are Golden Time, Acapulco, Samya and Living Room. How would you guys rank those clubs? Any other clubs in the NWR area worth checking out?
    Interesting observations, and you seem to know more than me as a newbie. I agree with pacing one's self if clubbing everyday, and a rest day would be a good idea in between. I top out after 3 or 4 days, and start looking for only slow GFE sessions. LOL.

    If you like the intimate setting at Mainhattan, you may also like intimate atmosphere which the NRW provides. Mainhattan was my preferred club in Hessen when I got bored of attending Oase too many times, and at the time I found similarities between Samya and Mainhattan because of the girls I meet there. So, I'd recommend Samya which has an intimate atmosphere also. Same for NRW clubs like LR, PHG, YY, DV, and GT which are smaller in size in comparison to the big Hessen clubs.

    Others may disagree, but for me, in terms of intimate atmosphere, I would rank as follows:

    1. LR.
    2. Samya.
    4. ACA Gold
    5. DV.
    6. PHG.
    7. GT.
    8. YY.
    9. VV.
    10. ACA.
    11. Magnum.

    There are other clubs in the region I've not included.

    It's not easy to say which are the best ones as tastes vary, but it seems Samya, LR, GT, YY, and ACA are the popular ones here, but there are other forums out there. It's best for you to check out these clubs for yourself and decide on your favorite, and tell us about it. There are others in the region also that I've never been, and others I wasn't too keen on, but why not explore them if you have the time?

    By the way, the acronym is NRW which stands for the North Rhine-Westphalia region of German.

  9. #1530
    Quote Originally Posted by TransAtlantic  [View Original Post]
    Socrates, glad to read you had a good time. Car rental is pretty cheap if you pickup on Thursday and keep it over Saturday night. I used to rent GPS but since I have an unlocked iPhone, I just pick up a SIM card in Germany. 1. 5 GB of data for 10. This is more than enough to for Google Maps or Waze.
    1.5 GB of data for 10? Where can I find this sim? I know you do NRW so I assume this sim doesn't drop out easily? Good coverage? With Deutsche Telecom (from T-mobile) sim, I get Edge at certain places around Duss, in some areas between Duss and GT. 1.5GB of 4G speeds?

    Does Waze have speed camera updates and alerts?

    As far as GPS, I have TomTom app on my smartphone, and it works well, and no need for data for it to work, although it will do a software license check from time to time if the device is legit which requires an internet connection. You do have to purchase the app, but it's priced much higher than a typical app. For me, it's worth it as I have other maps too like Netherlands in case I go to YY. Also, no worry for it to stop functioning if there is long period of data disconnection.

  10. #1529
    Socrates, glad to read you had a good time. Car rental is pretty cheap if you pickup on Thursday and keep it over Saturday night. I used to rent GPS but since I have an unlocked iPhone, I just pick up a SIM card in Germany. 1. 5 GB of data for 10€. This is more than enough to for Google Maps or Waze.

    Like you I usually take a wait and see approach when I first enter a club unless I run into a stunner. Often times if you don't engage the stunner while they are avail you may never see them again.

    As for hotels, a cheap €50-60/ night usually will do if you plan to spend all day / evenings at the clubs.

  11. #1528
    Quote Originally Posted by SocratesNY  [View Original Post]
    On my next trip in May, I plan to visit for a week and a half and am going to visit 2-3 clubs in Dusseldorf / Cologne area. What are the top clubs there ATM? The clubs on my radar are Golden Time, Acapulco, Samya and Living Room. How would you guys rank those clubs? Any other clubs in the NWR area worth checking out?

    After seeing clubs in the NWR area, I plan to go to Amsterdam for a day or 2 to recover and then will be heading to Frankfurt and spending 3 day there visiting FKK clubs with 1 day of sight-seeing. I plan to go visit Mainhattan and either Oase or Sharks again. I also plan to check out one new club near Frankfurt and am undecided between World and Palace.

    BTW, what is the best way to find out if a girl is present at a club if you only know her name?
    In NRW, LR, Samya on Thursday or Friday evening because too full on Saturday and maybe PHG on Friday or Saturday evening or Ocean late evening on Friday or Saturday.

    If you look for a girl, call or ask theke when arriving.

  12. #1527
    Quote Originally Posted by SocratesNY  [View Original Post]
    On my next trip in May, I plan to visit for a week and a half and am going to visit 2-3 clubs in Dusseldorf / Cologne area. What are the top clubs there ATM? The clubs on my radar are Golden Time, Acapulco, Samya and Living Room. How would you guys rank those clubs? Any other clubs in the NWR area worth checking out?
    Always good to get a perspective from a newcomer to the FKK scene. My first experience and impression at FKKs about 2 years ago is similar to yours. Renting a cheap hotel for a place to sleep and using the difference to rent a car with GPS is the way to go. On my last nights in Germany where I fly home the next morning / afternoon, I usually don't get a hotel at all. I spend the full day at the club then leave for the airport when the club closes at 5 am.

    As for clubs in NWR, line ups always change, but my current fave is Samya. When I head to a particular area in Germany for FKK'ng, I just go back to this forum to see where the current hot club is and head there.

  13. #1526
    Quote Originally Posted by SocratesNY  [View Original Post]

    On my next trip in May, I plan to visit for a week and a half and am going to visit 2-3 clubs in Dusseldorf / Cologne area. What are the top clubs there ATM? The clubs on my radar are Golden Time, Acapulco, Samya and Living Room. How would you guys rank those clubs? Any other clubs in the NWR area worth checking out?

    BTW, what is the best way to find out if a girl is present at a club if you only know her name?
    V. good summary. Generally agree with your views on cheap hotel and duration of an enjoyable FKK trip. Regarding car hire I found a cheaper car with smart phone's GPS is sufficient.

    Those NRW clubs you mentioned are good. My own ranking is Samya and Aca but I suggest you visit them yourself. Aca has cheap morning and evening entry and perhaps you can hop clubs to maximize your coverage. Note some clubs are good for day time e. G. GoldenTime and Aca while others are better for night.

    Best way to find a girl is to ring, or make friends with a regular and ask them.

  14. #1525
    Quote Originally Posted by SocratesNY  [View Original Post]
    what is the best way to find out if a girl is present at a club if you only know her name?
    Ring the club reception to ask if that girl is working. Reception normally speak English enough.

    Better is to get the telephone number of the girl you want so you can ask her directly if she is working.

  15. #1524

    3 Day Trip report from a newbie

    Just got back from my first FKK trip from Frankfurt and had had a blast. I spent 3 days and went to 3 clubs (Mainhattan on Friday, Oase on Saturday and Sharks on Sunday) and spent 10-12 hours each day at each club. I'll leave my detailed reports on each club in their respective section, but I'll state my general feel of each club and my overall first-time experience visiting FKK clubs in the Frankfurt area here.

    Mainhattan: I read that it was a smaller club, but it didn't feel that much smaller than Oase or Sharks. Maybe it's due to the outdoor area being closed or the layout. I think it is mostly smaller due to having less rooms than the other two big clubs in the area. I really liked this club as it's pretty intimate, very friendly, have a smoking area and an area where the girls seem to leave you be. Not that it was much of an issue, as most of the girls weren't that aggressive. Mainhattan definitely have the vibe of a strip club (darker lighting), with a small spa area thrown in. The facilities and décor was decent (6-7 out of 10) and the food was the best of the 3 clubs I went to (7 out of 10). The lineup of girls I saw this Friday was definitely top notch and the best of the 3 clubs for my tastes (slim and pretty model types). There were at least 50+ girls there, with at least 7-10 girls in the 8-10 range in looks and at least 10-20 more in the 7-8 range in looks.

    Oase: This club has the best facilities of the 3 clubs. It looks very new and opulent (9 out of 10). I can easily see this club being a joy to visit during the summer time. The club has a good mix of well-lit area (restaurant, whirlpool, sauna, spa area and men's relaxing lounge) with a more dimly-lit area (bar / lounge / stripper pole / dance floor and cinema). The rooms are also well-decorated and spacious. The food was only mediocre (5 out of 10), but I didn't go there for the food! The lineup of girls I saw on Saturday was decent, with at least 60+ girls, 5-7 girls in the 8-10 range in looks and another 15-25 more in the 7-8 range in looks.

    Sharks: The club is in a make-shift warehouse so it's cavernous and very open. The central area is a bar and surrounding it are the spa / sauna area, restaurant, lounge, cinema and theme rooms. The elevated areas are 1) Jacuzzi, pool and lounge area 2) VIP area and 3) three corridor of rooms. The lighting in the club is brightest in the center area (bar) and gets dimmer the further away you are from it. The place didn't seem too packed this Sunday and it appeared the place only had 50 or so girls. The lineup was the poorest of the 3 clubs, but it could be due to it being a Sunday. I saw 4-6 girls in the 8-10 range in looks and another 10-15 in the 7-8 range in looks. I was quite disappointed as this was the club I did the most research on and didn't see most of the superstars that I read about. I only approached girls that appealed to me and none of them were among the top 3 names I've read about. Maybe they were there and I wasn't attracted to them so never got their name or they were busy when I was available and on the prowl. I guess I have to figure out the best way to find out if a particular girl is present that day. Maybe I need to ask the bartender or the reception / front-desk personnel.

    Now for my general first-time impression of the FKK scene, especially with regards to Frankfurt area:

    I had initially planned to visit in May and do a guided tour (like fkktour.com) as I was new to visiting FKK clubs. However, after doing all the reading and research, I just couldn't wait for 2 months so did a spur of the moment trip to see if I could hack it on my own. Sort of like an appetizer visit before the main course visit in Spring. After my trip, I can say hands down that there is no need to do a guided tour. Everyone speaks English, was friendly and helpful. I hear public transit is top-notch in Frankfurt (I didn't find out as I rented a car) and the roads are not difficult to transverse, especially if you get a car with GPS.

    I have to say that my rental car with built in GPS was a life-saver. I had planned to just use my phone and Google maps, but the GPS on the Mercedes Benz see class that I rented was freaking fantastic. To top it off, it's dirt cheap to rent a BMW or Benz in Germany.

    I was going to buy a SIM card at the airport, but it seems the prices were a lot higher than I've read about. I was told 50-75 euros for a SIM card with internet, but picked one up for 20 on my way to my first club.

    My first advice to any new visitor planning to visit multiple clubs on a multi-day trip is to pace yourself. I saw 7 girls on my first day, 5 girls on my 2nd day and 3 girls on my 3rd day. I was so worn out that I actually had trouble getting it up for the first time in my life on the evening of my 2nd day. I generally have very good endurance and can go 3-5 times a day without any medical help, but by the end of the 3rd day, my penis was crying "help!" I plan to bring some Viagra for my next trip.

    My second bit of advice is to take your time selecting the girl (s) you want to see and politely turn down the first few girls you meet (unless she is totally a knock-out and 100% your type) and get a better sense of the lineup present. I was approached by hard-selling girls the first minute on the first two clubs I visited and said yes to the girls even though they weren't really my type. Neither experience ended well for me. So learn to politely and tactfully say no and don't let your libido get the best of you shortly arriving at a club. I took that advice on my 3rd day and had a more enjoyable day.

    Pretend you know more about the FKK scene than you actually do as a first-timer. As I did a good amount of research before my trip, I was aware of other club's name, location, etc. I told all the girls I've met that it was my first time at this particular club (You can lie about that too), but been to other clubs in the area. Maybe this led to almost zero up-selling from the girls and only a request for tip on 2 occasions. It is no coincidence that those were the 2 girls that gave the worst service and happened to be the 2 hard-selling girls that I saw as soon as I entered the club. Another helpful tip is to try to do your discussion of services before going to the room if the flow of conversation allows. If you are a patron that likes to do an hour or more sessions, it is also a good tip to mention that it is your norm, but only promise a 30 minute room with the carrot of extension if the service is good.

    If you plan to spend a full-day at a FKK club, forget about getting a nice hotel. I got a 5 star hotel for my trip and it was a waste of money. I only used it for the bed as I showered so often at the club that there was no need to do so when you get back to the hotel or before you go to a club. I had planned to take some time to go sight-seeing and do tourist stuff, but the allure of the clubs made those plans null and void. I ended up getting back to my hotel at 3-4 am each day and was too tired to even bother ordering room service. When I woke up for a new day, I was so looking forward to going to the next club that I just decided to eat at the club!

    On my next trip in May, I plan to visit for a week and a half and am going to visit 2-3 clubs in Dusseldorf / Cologne area. What are the top clubs there ATM? The clubs on my radar are Golden Time, Acapulco, Samya and Living Room. How would you guys rank those clubs? Any other clubs in the NWR area worth checking out?

    After seeing clubs in the NWR area, I plan to go to Amsterdam for a day or 2 to recover and then will be heading to Frankfurt and spending 3 day there visiting FKK clubs with 1 day of sight-seeing. I plan to go visit Mainhattan and either Oase or Sharks again. I also plan to check out one new club near Frankfurt and am undecided between World and Palace.

    BTW, what is the best way to find out if a girl is present at a club if you only know her name?

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