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12-10-11 01:12 #741
Posts: 623Originally Posted by Rivon [View Original Post]
1. Just speak normal English. Most girls can cope with the usual words. If you are too subtle it may lead to misunderstanding.
2. I haven't tried using a credit card. I suspect you may need to pay a surcharge if it is accepted.
3. You don't need to pay in the room. Pay at the wallet safes or the girl will wait outside the changing room if it is a club where they are not allowed in.
4. It's best to have the right money. Girls don't usually carry money with them. If you need change ask at reception.
5. I have never seen anyone give the cleaning staff a tip.
6. I have never seen bar staff being tipped and there was no sign of a tip jar in any clubs I have been to. I really don't think that the bar staff are going to be interested or able to give information on the girls. This is not what they are there for and they are much too busy.
7. All clubs I have been to have communal showers. Don't be shy!
8. When I have used the gym at Artemis I take my own gym kit. It is dangerous to use the equipment in a towelling robe and slippers. But some do try!
9. Avoid using your smartphone in any area of the club where there are naked girls. For example at Golden Time guys tend to go to the far end of the garden.
10. You can definitely bring your own soap. I take my own shower gel.
11. There is definitely a risk of STDs even if you just have BBBJ. If you don't want an STD then have everything protected.
12. It doesn't matter how often the girl gets tested. The guy just before you who came in her mouth might have been incubating something. Then you will get it.
13. Some girls are cautious about using condoms other than their own. I take my own lube but often girls prefer their own. They may also be unwilling to use mouthwash that isn't theirs. Some girls have their own mouthwash and use it frequently but many don't. I sometimes offer girls a tictac before going to the room!
14. Some girls will make appointments for later, particularly if you are going to book them for a prolonged period. Just ask them.
15. Some clubs allow sex in all sorts of places and some folk take advantage. Usually the kino is the most frequent location.
16. A few guys walk around exposing themselves with stiffies in all sorts of places. I think this is uncalled for. Personally I cover up with a towel and think about football to ensure shrinkage happens rapidly.
17. I only did this once when I asked a girl who spoke English to help translate my approaches to a girl who spoke none. She wasn't very happy about it but she was helpful and I thanked her profusely. If you make friends with a girl she might introduce you to her pals, however girls won't usually be interested in helping you approach the competition.
18. The social mix is very broad at FKKs. All the way from socially awkward and financially challenged guys to very affluent and seemingly confident ones. A complete mix.
19. If there is any problem some HUGE guy, probably covered in tattoos, will appear from nowhere and sort out the situation.
20. I think you are talking about a naturist place not an FKK or sauna club.
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12-09-11 20:02 #740
Posts: 11Sorry if this is a wrong place for this post. Move if necessary.
I have been reading on Germany's FKK's for the past week or so, and although this forum is inundated with useful information, I feel like I need to ask a few newbie questions. I have tried to compartmentalize questions in not-so-well-chosen categories.
Communication.
1. For being nascent to the German scene, or FKK in that regard, what kind of lingo do parties use to communicate about the explicit activities that might be sought? Are the requests made directly, e. G."Do you provide bareback blowjob?" (of course, with a bit of playfulness) or can they understand subtleties in English when your German is very limited?
Money & Transaction.
2. Do FKK's accept credit card in case something happens to your cash or ATM card, or is it something location specific?
3. Do the payouts always occur at the security box spots or can the exchange also happen in the room, which perhaps requires the guy to carry the session-money with him at all time (not a good idea I suppose)?
4. Do the girls carry a change or should a monger have the exact amount (what if all you have is 100 Euros)?
5. Does anyone leave small tips for the cleaning staff, e. G. A Euro, or is it frown upon?
6. While we at it, is it inappropriate to tip the bartender or do the facilities have a "shared" tip jar for everyone, if any? Are the bartenders a good source to extract needed information about the girls? Note, that I'm not trying to go on a tipping rampage, just wish to know the norm.
Facilities.
7. How are the showers set up? Are they communal or privately partitioned? Depends on the place? Oh how I miss Thailand.
8. If one wishes to take to the gym / workout area (hey, you are there all day long, why not get some non-sexorcise workout while you are there) , I don't suppose the same attire rules, e. G. Robe or towel, are applied, is it? Can you wear gym clothing when using gym equipments, when available?
9. Is it permitted to have a cell / smartphone with you outside of the locker room in the vicinity of the establishment for personal / business purposes? Or is it considered a definite no-no because of potential misuse, e. G. Cameras?
Hygiene, STD.
10. Can you bring your own toiletries, e. G. Soap, etc?
11. How are the STD rates in these places? Has anyone caught anything, not that you can eliminate the risk, but just wish to know?
12. How often do girls get tested? Is every establishment different in its quest to keep the ones with any sort of STD out of the circle or do rules get laxed from place to place?
13. Can you carry your own brand of condom, lube, etc? Do women swirl their oral cavity with mouthwash before being engaged with the next guy? Is it ok to ask them to do so before coming with you to the room?
Girls & Good Stuff.
14. You happen to like a session with a girl; can you schedule another one 5 hours later that night ahead of time to make sure you get her at that time slot?
15. Does any sort of full service action go on outside of the rooms, of course, if the parties are inclined to? How often does that happen (like in swinger clubs or partytreff) , if ever? I presume that the pool and sauna areas should be off limit for any sexual activities, aside from caressing and cajoling?
16. This might come off as being naively newbie question, but with all the rub and tug that goes on in the public arena, and even BBBJ's, do people mind a member walking around with a raging hard-on? I understand you can conceal your canon under the garment until reaching to the safety, a. K. A. The private room, but are people adult enough about it not to care? Or is it a common scene?
17. Is it disrespectful to ask a girl who just made an attempt to sell herself to you to call another girl sitting far that has actually interested you?
Safety, Security, and Type of Mongers.
18. What type of folks patronize such establishments? Are they mostly comprised of guys in their 30's or 40's with pleasant decorum and decent income? Sorry to take a collective financial status of like-minded people as a factor in assessing the overall type of mongers that one might encounter. I mean no disrespect. Or are the FKK's crawled with shoddy characters with issues? Or perhaps a mix?
19. How do these places handle drunkards and rowdy people? Are there proper security to manage such members?
Misc.
20. Are there establishments that require everyone to be entirely naked, e. G. Not even a mini-towel?
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11-22-11 20:41 #739
Posts: 329Hello, NicolaiJackov!
Interesting reading. A lot of observations and facts. But please refrain from calling the working girls "sluts". Maybe I'm to sensetive but I think that they deserves to be treated with more respect.
T
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11-22-11 03:54 #738
Posts: 4My FKK adventure (11-18 to 11-21)
Hi all,
I've been lurking on this forum and have found the information very helpful, thought I'd contribute something back in the form of a trip report. I'm writing this as I wait to leave my hotel to catch the morning train to the airport. .
A little bit over a month ago, my last gf broke up with me. My usual cure for such heartaches is to go mongering until I've fucked enough beauties to get over the ***** that broke my heart. Worked for my past breakups, so this time my approach was no different. But there was a twist to it this time; before the breakup, we had planned on going to Taiwan so I had already booked tickets + cleared my vacation time at my company. So here I am, sitting with a bunch of credits that expire in a year + a few vacation days. About 3+ years ago, I had gone to FKK Palace because the idea of having a ton of hot, naked sluts right there for me to choose from seemed too good to pass up. It lived up to my expectations, but unfortunately, I was only able to go for half a day since that was all the time I could squeeze out on business travel. So this time, I decided to do a well planned out FKK trip as a treat to myself.
The information on this board was invaluable to me, and I also figured out a few things for myself along the way, so here goes.
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The plan:
I've got a solid 4 days of time in Germany, so the question was how to best optimize my time. I don't speak German and I have a naturally shy personality so I would prefer to avoid asking hotel staff to call a taxi to take me to an FKK. Since I had already been to Palace once and it was good, I decided I would make sure to at least be able to hit that easily, and then go from there. I looked up the rates at Flemings and they weren't too bad, so I ended up going with that. I then started looking for other FKKs that would be reachable by train / walking. FKK Mainhattan would be easily doable, and I figured I could catch a train up to Samya in Cologne.
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Preparation:
Lots of research on this board.
I downloaded a Frankfurt map Android app that had offline map data, and as a backup, I printed out a map of the Frankfurt train system.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rt_am_Main.png
As it turned out, the Android app (Traveldroyd) was useless; GPS took forever to lock on and it was then so jittery that I couldn't use it! Not sure if it is the app's fault or if GPS is just flakey here, but I've never had such problems with Google Maps back in the USA. Of course, I had no data here, so I couldn't use Google Maps.
The ONE thing useful from the app was the compass, but I could have gotten a free compass app. Luckily, all I really needed was the Frankfurt train map + Google Maps at the hotel.
Physically, I made sure to have a high protein diet, lots of fruit, took some extra zinc vitamins, and refrained from jacking off for about 5 days before the trip.
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Day by day report:
I will write up the details for each FKK in the appropriate thread. This is just an overview of each: how I got there, the general ambiance, etc.
Friday:
I arrived a little before noon. Took the train from the airport to Hauptwache, then from Hauptwache took the U6 towards Heerstrassen and got off at Industriehof. My hotel was next door to the Palace, and as I walked past the Palace, memories of that great time 3 years ago flooded back in my brain and I felt my dick get hard with anticipation. Checked in, unpacked, cleaned up, and since I had slept all the way there, I was ready to start my FKK adventure!
I entered around 3 PM and left at around 11 PM. I would rate the average looks of the girls to be around 7. 5 (a few stunners pulling up the average and a few uglies dragging it down). The quality definitely improved as the night went on. Please see my post in the Palace thread for details. Especially noteworthy: I got a taste of Czech Gina and she more than lived up to expectations. Also, she doesn't look chubby at all, so either A. Some mongers here are into waif-thin girls, or B. She really lost ALOT of weight, or C. I had a special attraction towards her since she looked like a dead ringer for this really hot chick that I had wanted to date in college but never managed to get past the "friends zone" with. I'm going to go with a combo of A and C since her body was nice and tight, without any stretchmarks that you would expect to see from sudden weight loss.
Saturday:
Went by train to FKK Mainhatten. This was fairly straightforward. I took the U6 towards Ostbahnhof all the way to Ostbahnhof, then walked towards the south and found the 11 tram going towards Schiesshuttenstrasse. I got off at the Daimlerstrasse stop, and then walked south along Daimlerstrasse, with the FKK Mainhatten signs giving me reassurance that I was on the right path. I turned right as Daimlerstrasse turned into Schielestrasse, kept walking for a bit, and then I was there. The only incidents getting to / from there were: 1. I had trouble finding the 11 tram initially and wound up on Zobelstrasse, having somehow missed the 11 tram stop closer to Ostbahnhof, and 2. It was getting dark on my way back and I had difficulty locating the U6 Ostbahnhof entrance. I eventually found the U6 entrance, but it was at the Zoo stop. Oh well, all of it was so close together that I didn't actually walk that far out of the way.
I went in at 1 PM and left at around 7 PM. The selection average was about 6. 0, but it got markedly better around 6. Unfortunately, by then I was too spent to stick around. More info in the Mainhatten thread. Noteworthy fuck of the day: Ida. Super skinny Romanian girl. Fucked like a champ, great attitude, and got me to cum in half an hour even though she was the last fuck of the day! Those of you who like the waif look, you owe it to yourselves to try Ida.
Sunday:
I had originally planned to go to Samya but before going, I noticed that they only open at 3 PM on Sundays as opposed to 1 PM on other days! Given that it would be an ICE train to and from Cologne and that it wouldn't run that often, I was afraid of staying too late because I didn't want to get stranded. But if I went at 3 and left at a safe hour, then I wouldn't get that much time in. And given that I was already starting to get worn out from 2 days of fucking, I knew I would need longer sessions + more time between sessions. So this clearly would not be a good choice. :/
I started looking for alternatives and settled on FKK Sharks in Darmstadt. I looked up walking directions on Google to get from the Darmstadt station to Sharks and it seemed a bit long but definitely doable. Note that if I had a chance to do this again, I'd have called a cab to return from Sharks (if not also to go there in the first place) ; the walk was longer than expected although still very easily doable for me. But it does get dark pretty fast, and some of the streets aren't that well traveled. The neighborhood is very industrial with large factories and very few people. Walking past 3 mannish-looking hookers who were all over 50 and who were all eyeing me didn't help me feel any more comfortable on the walk back.
Anyway, if you want to brave the journey on foot (and walking there before it gets dark is actually not bad at all) , then here is exactly what I did. This is essentially the Google walking directions but with a few added descriptions from my on the ground experience of it. .
Take the U6 to Hauptwache, then take the S3 to Darmstadt all the way to the last stop (Darmstadt HBF). Exit Darmstadt HBF through it's east exit (the ONE time the Android app was useful at all. To find which way I was facing). You will see a square with cobblestones and tracks. There is a McDonalds (or was it a McCafe?) on the left and Gobelstrasse is in front of you. Walk towards Gobelstrasse and take a left on it. Take a right on Bismarkstrasse. Left on Kirschenalle. You will stay on Kirschenalle for some time (1km walk). You will cross Landwehrstrasse, and then eventually hit Pallaswiesenstrasse. Take a right on Pallaswiesenstrasse then a left on I'm Tiefen See (there is a gas station at this corner, should be to your left as you cross). Take a right on Otto Rohm Strasse and then walk for a while. You'll pass a Casino Resort with a 4 leaf clover logo and cross the Carl Schenck Ring. On the left side of the Otto Rohm Strasse / Carl Schenck Ring intersection, there will be a sign post with a bunch of businesses. You will see FKK Sharks listed there. Keep walking straight on Otto Rohm Strasse until you get to Sharks.
I got to Sharks at around 1 PM and left around 4:30 PM. Decided to leave early because I didn't have too much confidence that the selection would improve, I was feeling tired, and I didn't really want to walk back when it was completely dark. The selection was pretty poor here; average was around 5. 0. Mostly milfs, and ugly ones at that. This trip would have been written off as a miss except for Vicka; she turned my frown upside down and so this trip was an EPIC win. Suffice it to say that if I ever do another FKK trip, I will make it a point to go to Sharks SOLELY for the purpose of finding and fucking Vicka again. Amazingly sweet and slutty attitude. No rush, no upselling, and she seemed to genuinely enjoy the sex as much as I did. I'd rate her as the best fuck of my entire FKK adventure this round. Hell, I'd rate fucking her in the top 10 sexual experiences of my entire life. Details in the Sharks thread.
Monday:
Last day for my FKK adventures. Needed to rest up a bit from 3 days of fucking + I wanted to started readjusting my body clock for US time. Decided to sleep in for most of the day and revisit Palace in the evening, staying as long as I had money and stamina.
Went into Palace at 6 PM and it was surprisingly dead. Very few girls and guys. Everyone was just sitting around, quietly chatting with friends. Never seen the vibe so mellow. Things picked up after 7 PM, and I stayed until 12:30 midnight. Selection average was about 8. 5; the quality boost after 7 PM was huge, mostly helped by two solid 9's that walked in around that time. Details in the Palace thread.
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Advice / Lessons learned / Random tips:
Overall, this was a great trip! Accomplished my primary goal of getting over my breakup. Nothing like fucking a bunch of hot sluts to make you realize that there are PLENTY of fish in the sea. I'll take some good old sexual healing over any anti-depressants any day. ; p.
Gina was an excellent fuck, and it let me live out my fantasy of fucking my college crush. Even better, I got a chance to experience Vicka, easily one of the best sexual experiences in my life!
What worked well:
-The oft repeated advice to wear a watch and look at it before the session starts is SOLID. Do it. It is the only way to show these girls that you are NOT some rich sucker from America that can be ripped off for as many Euros as possible.
-Printing out the train map was VERY useful. Sometimes the stops are not announced that clearly, and often times it is difficult / impossible to figure out which direction you should take the train in without using the map. I recommend anyone traveling in Frankfurt to have a copy of this map in their pocket and to check it frequently.
-Saying "no, maybe later / I'm resting now / etc." when hit on by girls that you are not 100% sure you want to do. This was not easy for me and I had a few lapses which I regretted on the first day, but I managed to do it the rest of the time. Sometimes there are ugly girls who will get REALLY pissed and cuss you out when you say that, but whatever. You weren't going to fuck them anyway so why would you care what they thought of you? If anyone reading this needs more resolve, just remember this scenario: what if you fucked a passable 7 and then the hottest girl you could imagine walks in while your wallet is empty and your dick is limp. Was that 7 worth it? Fuck no, so don't fuck 7's no matter how aggressive they get.
-Going to the masseuse was a good call. All the massages that I had were excellent and having a massage in the middle of an FKK run was a great way to recharge and go for longer. It's pretty much impossible to nap in the kino areas since there will always be one or two girls that will go and try to wake you up to see if you want to session with them. And if they aren't trying to shark you, they are trying the same thing with the monger lying a few feet from you. That and having a porno going on with lots of moaning doesn't make it any easier to nap. All the masseuses were licensed and very professional, and I feel my muscles more relaxed and comfortable after my trip. If you can't get hard at all but don't want to go home yet, then go to a masseuse. Your back and your dick will thank you. ; p.
What could have gone better:
-I did alot of research but it was still not enough. I should have made a careful itinerary and booked hotels accordingly. The need to race back to the one hotel I had before it got too late was a definite limiter on how much mongering I could do. A better thought out plan would have included booking hotels closer to each of the FKKs and moving between the hotels at the start of each day. Then again, this more careful strategy would have made it more likely that I would have gone to Samya and not met Vicka at Sharks so I guess not planning everything out exactly right wasn't *all* bad.
-Should have brought a compass or gotten a watch with a compass, and left the phone at home. The ONE time the app was useful was as a compass, and using the phone as a compass is pretty shitty since the phone's compass takes a while to stabilize. Without calling or data, my Android phone was a useless, very expensive brick that I was taking around and always having to be extra careful not to drop it, lose it, have it stolen, etc.
-Packing lighter. Check the weather, know your body type and how much clothing you want, pack that and NOTHING more. I packed way too much. I had t-shirts since I was afraid it would be too cold and I would need to layer those inside my polo shirts. I had polo shirts and long sleeve shirts, since I wasn't sure if I would be OK with short sleeves in this weather. The list goes on. This is mostly because I've lived in Texas for most of my life so I don't have a good grasp of what temperatures feel like under 50 F other than "it's cold". As it turns out, I should have just packed my long sleeves, the one vest that I wore, and my jacket. Everything else could have stayed at home and I'd have been much lighter (which would be helpful if I wanted to move between hotels easily without lugging too much stuff around).
-Save Palace for last. The reports of Palace having higher quality girls AND the girls being sharkier and wanting more $$$ are definitely true. It was harder for me to resist some of the pretty good but not outstanding girls at Palace the first day since I was so horny. On my last day, I only fucked the three most attractive girls in the club and went away knowing that there were no more girls there that I would regret not fucking. The girls were just as aggressive on both days, so what really changed was my attitude / having enough self control to think with the right head. If I could do it over again, I'd have started out at a smaller club with less aggressive girls (but still enough attactive ones to avoid just "settling") to help whet my appetite. Mainhattan would probably have been good for that; it had a few great looking girls and they were all more chill there. Sharks might not have been as good as it would have been too easy there to "settle" and spend more than you should (Vicka was the only super attractive girl there. The others that I had there were low 8's). Given how close Palace / Flemings is to the U6 line, it also makes alot of sense as a last stop before heading back to the airport.
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10-08-11 15:54 #737
Posts: 1812Originally Posted by Pharisaer [View Original Post]
Since then, I found out that lingerie days is on both clubs on Wednesday, which is my "day2". I like the girls fully naked. Based on some other's advice, I am now considering Sharks.
I have left the following message on the Sharks' thread:
Sharks, Mainhattan and / or Palace?
How does sharks compare with Mainhattan and Palace with regards to
Quality of girls.
Quantity of girls?
On a week day form 6pm till, say 2 am, and.
During the day from, say. 12 to 6 pm?
I have an opportunity for those 2 windows.
Reading the posts, and looking at the websites, it seems that Sharks is the best place as regards installations etc, but quantity / quality of girls may be sometimes average.
But this seems also the case at Mainhattan, where installations seem less spacious. I know well Palace, have been there often, even early morning, and always found somebody to play with. However, I am keen to explore new pastures.
Also want to avoid lingerie day, which is, I was told, on Wednesdays on both Palace and Mainhattan, and one of my 2 days is. Wednesday.
My current inclination would therefore be to go to Palace on arrival on day one. 6 pm to 2 am, and then head up to Sharks for day 2, between 12 and 6?
Does this make sense?
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10-06-11 21:02 #736
Posts: 437Originally Posted by Dreams [View Original Post]
Hot to get there: It's just a convenient 30 mins tram ride from Main Station (Tram 11 from Main Station to Fechenheim Schiesshuettenstrasse, leave tram at Daimlerstrasse). Last train back to Main Station from Daimlerstrasse at 1. 33 am.
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10-06-11 16:31 #735
Posts: 1812Mainhattan and Palace
May I request some advice?
I am quite familair with FKKs, having been several times to many of them, however not recently.
I have managed to create a window of opportunity for a 36h lay over in FRA, eartly November.
For convenience, I have booked an hotel close to Hauptbahnhof.
I won't rent a car, and do not think that it is worth spending too much time in public transport to get to Oase, especially that in winter, outdoor facilities won't be usable.
That's leave me with Palace, that I know well, and Mainhattan, that I don't know.
I like palace, and am not "afraid" opd the socalled "sharkness" of girls there. However, I am always interested in checking new places.
My plan therefore is: check in to the hotel around 4 pm on day one, head straight after that to Mainhattan and spend the evening / night there.
On day 2 morning, around 12, head to Palace till 6 before heading direct to airport (flight at 8. 30)
Does this programme make sense with regards to quantity and quality of girls at the times I am suggesting?
Of course, any alternative sufggestions would be gladly received.
Thnaks.
Dreams.
PS I am posting this on the Palace and Mainhattan threads, so apologies for the repeat.
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10-06-11 09:16 #734
Posts: 156Bbw fkk
Just wondering if there are any fkk's (or brothels) that specialise in bbws or have a larger proportion of big girls.
I'm talking size 16 plus.
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09-28-11 11:03 #733
Posts: 67Originally Posted by Jymondor [View Original Post]
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09-27-11 19:45 #732
Posts: 1065Originally Posted by Member #2453 [View Original Post]
This post explains it.
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09-27-11 15:02 #731
Posts: 67Nude Girls
I was at Samya Sauna in Kolon, all the 3 times I was there except for one lady all were with their panties, no was completely nude? Are there any clubs around Kolon where all the Girls in the club are completely nude all the time?
Thanks
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09-26-11 15:54 #730
Posts: 1065When FKK close their outdoor areas?
Folks, October in Germany fairly comfortable time. When FKK close outdoor areas? I remember that last November outdoor area was opened in Golden Time in Vienna, but not sure about German clubs. As far as I remember mid of October most of them are still open. Who remember better?
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09-26-11 07:05 #729
Posts: 437Originally Posted by Berlusconi01 [View Original Post]
Samya, Cologne.
Free birthday admission. Reduced (30 Euro) admission for your friends, if you tell them their names on a kind of guestlist in advance. In case you bring more than 10 friends, you get a complimentary "zimmer" (30 mins).
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09-26-11 02:36 #728
Posts: 196 day itinerary?
Hey guys, hope you're well,
After much deliberation and trawling through these forums, I think I'd like to head to Germany for my 6day break from 7th. 13th October 2011. The reason I think Germany may be a better choice for me personally is that 1) it is far cheaper to fly to europe from the UK than it is to fly to the far east or to South America. 2) there are plenty of easily accessed mongering options over there and 3) it sounds as if mongering may be cheaper in Germany than in other parts, such as Czech republic or Poland? Price is the biggest factor for me sadly. I'd rather have a cheap encounter that does the job, as opposed to a more pricey encounter that is more memorable. I appreciate that many won't agree with that, but it's the way I have to do it at the moment!
I'd really appreciate some help:
A) If you could chose any other place in Europe than Germany, which would it be? (Poland? Czech?) Which is cheapest?
Be) As a first timer to Germany and as someone who speaks no German (and is trying to keep costs down) , what sort of itinerary would you recommend for a 6day trip for the above dates?
Thanks a lot guys, your help as always is much appreciated.
JM
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09-19-11 21:16 #727
Posts: 3FKK with free entrance for the bday?
In Frankfurt-Dussendorf Cologne-Saarland.
Which one would be the best to profit for the reduced-free entry?
Cheers!