FKK FAQ

[Tuxsmasher]

Hi everyone,

For my first FKK experience, which club would you recommend? I'm torn between Artemis, World and palace. I'm thinking the last 2 might be a good visit during the summer time, Artemis has good enough quality, size, close to downtown but entry price is a bit higher (80), I'm kind of leaning towards artemis, but I don't want to jump into this, without asking you guys first.

[Traveldoc99]

I plan to return to Bernd's next week and have a room reserved at the Hotel Reuter. Can anyone answer a these questions?

Is internet access available? If so, is wireless?

Are credit cards accepted?

Can I expect access to my room after midnight without waking someone?

Thanks in advance for your help.

[Excess]

I think that you will find that there is telegraph running in most clubs that clocks which guests go with which girls. There is an unspoken rule that returning guests are first picks by the girls they went with before unless the guest expresses, usually over the evening several times, that he is no longer interested in repeating. It keeps the system of 'regulars' running for the girls.

Not every girl knows this or abides with it. Many do. Most guests don't realise it, unless they know the score. Keeps things tidy for the club and the girls and cat fights down a level. This breaks down somewhat in very busy clubs ar at Messe times.

Have been amazed that a girl will remember a guest even after a year or more or be told that 'you went with Ms. X (correctly), a rare number of times they don't. Having a long tongue and know how to use it sometimes jogs or keeps you in the girls' memory banks.

The girls who develop regulars often provide them with their 'work' mobile numbers so that they can inform the girls if they will be in that day/night and arrange a time slot before coming to work or during if the girls can access their phones in the changing rooms. The girls who are not too interested and standing/siting at the bar or elsewhere can be waiting for the entry of a prearranged date with a regular and so not too concerned about 1/2 hour since the regular may very well have booked them for several hours that night. The lady may very well thought you were worthy of elevation to 'regular' status, or indeed may have been interested in continuing after the club in your hotel.

-- I found it odd that she observed who I was with on one visit and on the next (almost 3 weeks later) made a reference in mentioning that girl by name There are a decent amount of girls in this club it was not a lucky guess. I know these girls talk but that's a little extreme.

[Angus Magee]

In my 30 or so years of mongering I have had a half a dozen or so working girls who ended up giving me their phone number. In my experience it almost always ends badly.

I have had a couple of street girls, call girls, strippers and most recently an apartment girl here in Berlin agree to take the relationship outside the realm of pay for play. In the case of the apartment girl in Berlin she gave me all the signals and made all the moves until I asked for and got her number. From then on it was all mixed signals and confusion until just gave up, let it go. It is all too easy to forget that these girls are relatively young (relative to me at least;-) and sometimes they are very immature when it comes to actually relating in an adult manner, i.e. being clear about what you want and what you are willing to do.

Anyway, I just mention this to let you know that you may be stepping into quicksand when you contact a girl you meet in an FKK and try to see her outside this environment.

That being said, I would probably do it all over again in exactly the same way the next time. It can be a heady experience and it somehow strokes the ego when one of these girls tries to get close in this way. The only thing I would do different, or at least try to, is not to take it so damn seriously.

[Jackyo]

Since you guys are still interested.

-- No I wasn't tired or falling asleep at the club at all.

-- Yes I was nice and respectful to her as I am to all of them.

-- Yes she did ask me what I did for a living, how old am I, am I married. Most of them don't. I'm decent looking and not too old but not the youngest or the best looking guy there (unless it is a slow night).

-- I found it odd that she observed who I was with on one visit and on the next (almost 3 weeks later) made a reference in mentioning that girl by name There are a decent amount of girls in this club it was not a lucky guess. I know these girls talk but that's a little extreme.

-- No I don't believe she is head over heels for me. She was nice to me, more so than any of the others have been. Bringing me a drink to the sauna, checking up on me. I won't go into specifics but there was something going on at the club which would've cost me a lot of money that wasn't worth it and she warned me off of it. It kind of seemed like she was watching out for me a little. Maybe I'm such a newbie that she felt sorry for me, but I don't think so, I seem to get by okay.

Mixed messages here. One guy says "call her what is the worst that can happen". Another says she may be trafficed and you'd have a problem with some huge Baltic husband or pimp.

The only reason I mention the possible "friend with a financial interest standing in the background" is so that you aren't caught off guard.

Some of these women are, indeed, working on their own account. With a chick like that you would be fine.

I would probe to find out a) where she is from, b) how long she has been with the club, c) what her marital status is. If she is some EE chick just off the bus/train/plane and she speaks no German, shows signs of being coerced, etc.. then be a little more wary.

See this earlier post of mine about this topic with links to site so you can find out more:

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=514869

[American Tourist]

Since you guys are still interested.

-- No I wasn't tired or falling asleep at the club at all.

-- Yes I was nice and respectful to her as I am to all of them.

-- Yes she did ask me what I did for a living, how old am I, am I married. Most of them don't. I'm decent looking and not too old but not the youngest or the best looking guy there (unless it is a slow night).

-- I found it odd that she observed who I was with on one visit and on the next (almost 3 weeks later) made a reference in mentioning that girl by name There are a decent amount of girls in this club it was not a lucky guess. I know these girls talk but that's a little extreme.

-- No I don't believe she is head over heels for me. She was nice to me, more so than any of the others have been. Bringing me a drink to the sauna, checking up on me. I won't go into specifics but there was something going on at the club which would've cost me a lot of money that wasn't worth it and she warned me off of it. It kind of seemed like she was watching out for me a little. Maybe I'm such a newbie that she felt sorry for me, but I don't think so, I seem to get by okay.

Mixed messages here. One guy says "call her what is the worst that can happen". Another says she may be trafficed and you'd have a problem with some huge Baltic husband or pimp.

[Jackyo]

Thanks guys this info is indeed helpful.

Conclusions:

1) It isn't totally uncommon to get a girls contact number

2) It could be business or pleasure very difficult to tell.

3) Keep it on the down-low as it may impact her job.

With that in mind I won't say any club names or anything for fear of somebody figuring it out. She did want my cel number I didn't give it to her as I couldn't remember my number so she programmed hers in mine.

Thanks for the help in trying to figure this all out (it all seems odd to me) this was like the 3rd or 4th time I had been to this club. I remembered seeing her in passing last time, didn't talk to her. But this time she asked about one of the girls I was with the last time by name. She also strongly suggested that I go back to the hotel after we were finished. At first I ignored her and went to the sauna, she brought me a drink in there. Then went to shower and she came down and again suggested that I leave. I did and that was how we left it. Odd that a girl would be insistent that I actually leave.

Again is this common?

Some of these women have a "boyfriend" or "husband" standing in the wings. In other words, there is someone who has a financial interest in her activities.

The whole theme of Zwangsprostitution has been adequately discussed here. It is real and it exists.

I'd be concerned about some thug of Balkan/Baltic/Black Sea origins in the background somewhere.

[Basketcase]

She also strongly suggested that I go back to the hotel after we were finished. At first I ignored her and went to the sauna, she brought me a drink in there. Then went to shower and she came down and again suggested that I leave. I did and that was how we left it. Odd that a girl would be insistent that I actually leave.

Again is this common?

American Tourist

It might be that your FKK girlfriend has become protective and thoughtful of your well being. Sometimes girls say to guys that it maybe best to go back to their hotel rooms or homes if they are sleeping in the club (and not fucking) and taking up room. I mean the quote of "this is not sleep club this is a fuck club" reverberates. She may have noted you were tired or anxious or whatever and a good nights rest so you could be ready the next day for more fucking creating her suggestion that you leave and rest up. It could be any combination of explanations.

Alternatively, she might want to be hoping to keep your euros to herself since by sending you home you will not be spending any more on other girls and have some saved for her for next time - wishful thinking but who knows how some people think.

Maybe there was something going down and she did not want you to be around. This is only guess work. You will have to ask her.

Now that you mention it I expect there will be a few others interested in the answer too as to me also it is not a common comment to come from a girl to a punter apart from when the guy is obviously very tired and really could do with a proper sleep (and not in the club).

Cheers,

Londonbasketcase

[Iseeu]

1) It isn't totally uncommon to get a girls contact number

2) It could be business or pleasure very difficult to tell.

3) Keep it on the down-low as it may impact her job.

Yes, it is a commonplace occurrence and yes, keep the club and her name to yourself.

IMHO- It is not difficult to discern if it's business or pleasure- There's a 99% chance that it is business. She may give you the impression that she's really into you, but if it ever develops in the future, it will come out as a business transaction.

The 1% chance that it's for pleasure would happen because;
A) She fell head over heels in love with you from the fleeting moments spent in your company
B) You said something about your personal status that made her believe that she would have a supported future with you
C) You were so amazingly charming and or gorgeous and or fun to be with that she wants to be your GF for awhile.

I don't know you or what happened between the 2 of you. Decide for yourself.

[American Tourist]

Thanks guys this info is indeed helpful.

Conclusions:

1) It isn't totally uncommon to get a girls contact number

2) It could be business or pleasure very difficult to tell.

3) Keep it on the down-low as it may impact her job.

With that in mind I won't say any club names or anything for fear of somebody figuring it out. She did want my cel number I didn't give it to her as I couldn't remember my number so she programmed hers in mine.

Thanks for the help in trying to figure this all out (it all seems odd to me) this was like the 3rd or 4th time I had been to this club. I remembered seeing her in passing last time, didn't talk to her. But this time she asked about one of the girls I was with the last time by name. She also strongly suggested that I go back to the hotel after we were finished. At first I ignored her and went to the sauna, she brought me a drink in there. Then went to shower and she came down and again suggested that I leave. I did and that was how we left it. Odd that a girl would be insistent that I actually leave.

Again is this common?

[Bobo.fr]

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Right before I was going to leave she came up to me, asked if I would call her, and programmed her phone number into my cel.
.....
So is getting a personal cel number common?

I think yes because I have more than one cell numbers from the ladies.

I'm not so jaded as to think this was the best sex she ever had, and that I'm the best looking guy around. Far from it.

May be you were nice with them ? may be you respected them ? ... etc ...
Personnally, one lady told me that she could feel that from a man at a beginning of a meeting.
May be your conversation with her was not just limited in "do you practise CIM, fist, anal, uro ... etc ... ?"

What is she after? What do I need to watch out for? What would you guys do?

If I understand well, her cell phone is in yours (and not your cell phone is in hers) ?
Personnally, often the ladies give me their cell numbers just because they don't work everyday at the "house" and so I can call them to check their presence or to make an appointment.

[SX Lover]

[/quote]Right before I was going to leave she came up to me, asked if I would call her, and programmed her phone number into my cel

What is she after? What do I need to watch out for? What would you guys do?[/QUOTE]

Why you worry. She is just trying to be friendly with you. May be it will lead you to free dates.
Think what worst can happen..............just enjoy good company

[Basketcase]

I'm a newbie at this and need the advice from the more experienced.

Met a girl at an FKK club (for the first time). Got pretty hot on the couch, went to a room with her and it was amazing. After that I hit the sauna, she brought me a drink checked up on me. Then I had to cut the night short (work called).

Right before I was going to leave she came up to me, asked if I would call her, and programmed her phone number into my cel.

This was like my fourth time at this place, the girls there are starting to recognize me so my anonymousness is out the window at this point.

So is getting a personal cel number common? I'm not so jaded as to think this was the best sex she ever had, and that I'm the best looking guy around. Far from it.

What is she after? What do I need to watch out for? What would you guys do?

My take is that she just wants you as a regular customer and for you to stay in contact.

If she starts contacting you on when you are next visiting then you will know for sure.

If you use her number to contact her for a date and she refuses or avoids the question then you will know the score. If she accepts the date then do not tell anyone about it and enjoy youself.

Londonbasketcase

[Vito Corleone]

I'm a newbie at this and need the advice from the more experienced.

Met a girl at an FKK club (for the first time). Got pretty hot on the couch, went to a room with her and it was amazing. After that I hit the sauna, she brought me a drink checked up on me. Then I had to cut the night short (work called).

Right before I was going to leave she came up to me, asked if I would call her, and programmed her phone number into my cel.

This was like my fourth time at this place, the girls there are starting to recognize me so my anonymousness is out the window at this point.

So is getting a personal cel number common? I'm not so jaded as to think this was the best sex she ever had, and that I'm the best looking guy around. Far from it.

What is she after? What do I need to watch out for? What would you guys do?

You are in some serious trouble. You broke the FKK silent code of conduct. As you know, the Hells Angels are located everywhere especially in the US. You might be sleeping with the fishes soon. Another rookie making a potentially fatal mistake.










Just kidding. She just wants to exchange protein & like others have said want a regular customer.

[Jackyo]

I'm a newbie at this and need the advice from the more experienced.

Met a girl at an FKK club (for the first time). Got pretty hot on the couch, went to a room with her and it was amazing. After that I hit the sauna, she brought me a drink checked up on me. Then I had to cut the night short (work called).

Right before I was going to leave she came up to me, asked if I would call her, and programmed her phone number into my cel.

This was like my fourth time at this place, the girls there are starting to recognize me so my anonymousness is out the window at this point.

So is getting a personal cel number common? I'm not so jaded as to think this was the best sex she ever had, and that I'm the best looking guy around. Far from it.

What is she after? What do I need to watch out for? What would you guys do?

Some clubs have strict rules about the girls making contact outside of the club, das heisst, she may lose her job if you were ever found out.

Some other veterans on this forum have had direct experience with this.