FKK FAQ

[DarkSmurf]

There really isn't anything like an FKK in any of those countries, closest you could find are some high-end brothels but the prices would be far higher than an FKK. Picking the UK and flying to Germany really is your best option.

I know it seems to be a strange question.

I'm from Taiwan. As you can see, my English proficiency is fine.

However, my company wants me to have a 2-month living experience in an English-speaking country.

And by their definition, English-speaking countries include the US, Canada, the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

I am actually thinking about going to the UK, even if there is nothing fun to do there, I can easily fly to Germany for the real FKK clubs after that. LOL.

[Solo Traveler]

I know it seems to be a strange question.

I'm from Taiwan. As you can see, my English proficiency is fine.

However, my company wants me to have a 2-month living experience in an English-speaking country.

And by their definition, English-speaking countries include the US, Canada, the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

I am actually thinking about going to the UK, even if there is nothing fun to do there, I can easily fly to Germany for the real FKK clubs after that. LOL.

[Pistons]

Hmm why you don't post only if you knew something. Would save a lot of server capacity.

In this case again wrong how in most of your posts.

Because then less intelligent people not able to read a questionmark wouldn't have a reason to respond just to increase their postcount. lol

[Wolvenvacht]

The new law won't go into effect until on or after July 1, 2016. The new German regs have nothing to do with whether female guests are still allowed. So, female guests are allowed now and should still be allowed after July 1st.

There is a small effect of the new law. If the girl you bring does not come for "free", i.e. you pay her for her services, then she must be licensed and the club must register her presence.

As the club does not know your "relationship" with that girl and does not know her, they could unknowlingly breach the law by not registering her or by allowing a non-registered prostitute to work in their club.

That is probably the reason why clubs will be wary to welcome unknown girls.

PS: it is July 1st, 2017!

[Hessen Bub]

Well, by next July (not yet) I suspect they will require a health card simillair to that in Austria. So that's why I suspect there could be issues with female guests not 'working' who doesn't have health cards.

No. If you bring a girl and she is a guest as the male guests are also there is no change from July 17. That's why they are not to go with other guests. They don't get paid. They are not working. They are not falling under the regulations.

HB.

[Craiova]

Well, by next July (not yet) I suspect they will require a health card simillair to that in Austria. So that's why I suspect there could be issues with female guests not 'working' who doesn't have health cards.

Hmm why you don't post only if you knew something. Would save a lot of server capacity.

In this case again wrong how in most of your posts.

[Member #4581]

I think 90% of the time, WGs in the club "come" for the benefit of the guys. So, you could spend the entire half hour doing Just DATY and nothing else, and they still want to get paid because they feel they serviced you, and not the other way around.

[Member #4581]

UH, thanks. I understand perfectly that if you paid for the girl and bring as guest, you obviously don't want to share. Makes perfect sense. My question was more about when no money exchange is involved. If a normal couple in an open relationship come in, they allow the man to fuck girls but Not the female guest to fuck guys. Kinda makes you wonder why any woman would want to come in, unless she has some lesbian tendencies or wants to see her man in action with other girls or do a threesome with another girl.

From the club perspective, what do they want. They let the girl in, but don't want her to have sex with anyone except her man chaperone? (I am assuming they do this because otherwise any WG can accompany a man as his guest and begin working, and arbitrage the price difference between what we pay and the girls pay?

[Pistons]

I am a bit confused though since Pistons you mentioned new regulations. Are girls now no longer allowed or still allowed as customers?

Well, by next July (not yet) I suspect they will require a health card simillair to that in Austria. So that's why I suspect there could be issues with female guests not 'working' who doesn't have health cards.

And to UltraHappy, who says only the girls service the guys at these clubs? When I go daty on a girl, which quite a few ask for, I consider that servicing the girl... Which funnily made me a bit annoyed once as I went daty on a girl for 20 minutes untill she came (she was so horny and begged for me not to stop), only to have 5-10 minutes left. Then afterwards 'she' asked for money. lol : p

[UltraHappy]

Wow, dude Pistons. Do you have a death wish? LOL.

UH. Thanks for a very detailed write up. You must be the resident expert in this area, I don't think too many ISG regulars have as much experience as you in this field of study. If the female guest is not allowed to go with other men, what's in it for her? Just to experience lesbian sex with club girls (or watch her male partner in action with club girls? If it is as part of 4-way or even 3-way with her male guest and another guy, would that be allowed? How can they tell anyway, especially if the female guest also takes off her robe and is indistinguishable from other girls and casually has sex in the garden or in one of the rooms in Sharks where anyone can walk in?

I suspect she is there for the fantastic food and for watching Football like the rest of us. Haha. Seriously though, in some cases, the girl is being paid for the whole night by the guy to be his company. In some cases, I've taken one working girl out of her regular club and taken her as a guest to another club for one reason or another. Sometimes, I just want to check out another club and see the line-up but don't want to risk not finding girls there to my liking or risk missing out on a night with one of my favorites, so sometimes I just bring her along with me. In some cases, I've hired one of my favorite former working girls who have quit the business to keep me company at the club all night, sometimes even flying them in from Romania. As has been discussed in other threads, when hiring a girl for the entire night who you know very well, you can usually negotiate discounted "bulk" rates, which can be a nice bonus.

In any case, when I am paying a girl to be with me the whole night, I am certainly not paying for her to service other guys, so I can't imagine why a guy would think that he is somehow entitled to have sex with my female guest, especially when the FKK club prohibits this in any event. Very odd. This would really be no different than a guy poking his head in a random room and interrupting an ongoing Zimmer session and asking the girl if she minds if he joins in (or any paid time between a client and his girl unless the interruption has been invited by the paying party). Perhaps some people are confusing FKK clubs with swinger clubs? Interrupting ongoing sessions is clearly not appropriate FKK protocol. I mean, sure, I suppose someone could go ahead and try this, but I suspect they would not be warmly received to say the least.

For those couple's visits that don't involve financial renumeration, I suppose we can speculate many reasons for this.

[UltraHappy]

A lot of good information. In my case, the girl coming with me isn't actually "my girl" just a friend of mine that is very into sex. So in my case Pistons, by all means flirt away.

She actually does want to come just to see the environment and for lesbian action.

I am a bit confused though since Pistons you mentioned new regulations. Are girls now no longer allowed or still allowed as customers?

The new law won't go into effect until on or after July 1, 2016. The new German regs have nothing to do with whether female guests are still allowed. So, female guests are allowed now and should still be allowed after July 1st.

[BeefyPanda]

A lot of good information. In my case, the girl coming with me isn't actually "my girl" just a friend of mine that is very into sex. So in my case Pistons, by all means flirt away.

She actually does want to come just to see the environment and for lesbian action.

I am a bit confused though since Pistons you mentioned new regulations. Are girls now no longer allowed or still allowed as customers?

[Member #4581]

Wow, dude Pistons. Do you have a death wish? LOL.

UH. Thanks for a very detailed write up. You must be the resident expert in this area, I don't think too many ISG regulars have as much experience as you in this field of study. If the female guest is not allowed to go with other men, what's in it for her? Just to experience lesbian sex with club girls (or watch her male partner in action with club girls? If it is as part of 4-way or even 3-way with her male guest and another guy, would that be allowed? How can they tell anyway, especially if the female guest also takes off her robe and is indistinguishable from other girls and casually has sex in the garden or in one of the rooms in Sharks where anyone can walk in?

[Pistons]

- So with the new regulations, it won't be allowed in Germany either?

- I eyed up a female customer once and got angry looks from her protective guy. Was a good laugh. I'd have hit him if he had been rude trying to show her that he was the man. FKK's are not a place for protective jealous guys to bring their girls.

- The robe on idea in hessen can bring confusion as the nrw working girls sometimes wear robes too, so for someone comming from some nrw clubs to hessen, they probably won't see the difference.

- Working girls probably doesn't like the fact that non working girls are allowed in. Simply because then that means thay are not allowed to wear robes. At clubs like Oase and Sharks that means currently that girls don't go outside when it is cold. So less social environment for everyone. Or are all girls allowed to wear robes at these hessen clubs? I sometimes see some WG's together with VIP's at Oase wearing robes too. Is that just for the girls staying with the VIP customers? Or can everyone use them?

- Next time I'm going to flirt a bit with some women customers just to be an ass. A wink or two, because I take it as a bit rude by the guy if he considers her off limit.

- The idea of an FKK is to have no limit in regards to flirting and sex. And here he tries to pose limits to this environment. So not good.

UltraHappy, hope to fuck your girl next time: p.

[UltraHappy]

Hi everyone,

I'm currently planning my next trip to Germany and this time a good female friend of mine wants to join me on my FKK adventure. After I told her about how awesome my last couple of trips were, she was pretty much demanding I take her.

Before I agree to bring her along, I wanted to double check to see if:

1) are female guests allowed in the clubs?

2) if allowed, are there any special rules they have to follow?

3) are there any restrictions, other than the obvious, don't go with other guys?

As always, thank you for the help and advice.

BeefyPanda.

In Hessen, girl may come as guest with man in most clubs (for example, allowed in Oase, Sharks, and World for sure -- I have done this in all three). But in NRW, many clubs won't allow female guests -- I don't know why. I say, "I do this all the time at Oase in Frankfurt no problem. " They say, "I know, but here, you can't bring girl. ".

In Austria, I found that the clubs would not allow me to bring a female guest, I presume, due to their heavier regulation that require the girls to have a health card, etc. And clubs could have problem when authorities come for their weekly control check because the police have no way to know who is working and who is guest. That is just my guess as to the reason.

As you know, girl guest can't go with other guys. At World however, if your girl has an EU passport, she can leave her passport at the front desk and go with other guys. But I did not let my girl do this of course because I sure as shit am not sharing her with anyone else, at least when she's with me.

No special rules. Sometimes the person at the bar at Oase doesn't know that you can take a key for you and your guest girl without a working girl going with you. Twice I have had to bring them to Reception for a clarification of the rules. You can clearly go without a working girl to the room -- you and your guest have both paid entry, so of course, you are both entitled to go to the room together. Usually however, the key person gives us the key no problem however. Of course, in the clubs without key checkouts, this presents no problem.

I usually like my guest girl to wear a bathrobe to help the other clients know she is a customer. Your guest girl will be issued a key for a locker in the men locker room, so she will change / unchange with the guys, not with the girls. She can go use the bidet in the girl locker room if she needs to of course. One of my girls refused to go in there though because she didn't want to deal with all the girls interrogating her to no end with a million questions -- the girls can be a "curious / gossipy" bunch sometimes. The working girls generally won't hassle your guest girl when you are around but if she is on her own a bit, the more curious ones will approach her and start asking her lots of questions, so she should be prepared for what she wants to tell the working girls when she start being nosy.