FKK Club Freudenbergstr 39

[EastGoing]

The girls all claimed that it was "official". The extra 10 was clearly a concerted effort

Since this week it is somehow official. Funny that not all girls knew that. Anyway, confirmed by theke and by obviousness, girls are independent contractors and any agreement can be made between a girl and a customer. In theory, the only official base of the club is 20 minutes for 30 euros. No more signs about prices are hanging anywhere, differently from the other clubs (today Verena even introduced a third option, 40 minutes for 50 euros).

However, many locals (and I) think it will hardly last a couple of weeks. Today, Friday evening, with supposed closing time at 3 am, after 23 o'clock, there were not even 20 cars parked outside. HH 20 euros.

[Vito Corleone]

A bit more detail on my visit.

I went in search of the fabled Patrizia. This involved a train ride to Bochum HBF, and then a maybe 15 minute tram ride (I was foxed at first that the trams at HBF are underground at the front of the station). Then it was a ten minute walk (half of which was waiting for pedestrian lights to change). The shed in which Freude sits at Freudenbergstrasse 39 is one of the most depressing constructions possible. Still, I hadn't come for the architecture.

I got buzzed in, given a towel, walked over to the desk and paid 20 euro (the entry price is changing frequently so it may be different by now). Went downstairs to change, came up and put my valuables in the small lockers by the door and looked around.

I had forgotten how large the club was. Maybe 6 times as big as Dietzenbach, maybe 10 times the size of Villa Venus?. Maybe more. But it had all the elements of a Red Carpet Club. Rather dingy lighting, couches sparsely occupied by sundry inactive girls (in view of the no approach policy). Like Luderland, the club is a faded glory, clearly having once been intended to be a "proper" FKK (think like Babylon), but now does not fill up its space.

There is a nice eating area but no food. Unless one counts the cheapest possible pain au chocolat and poor apples to be sufficient..

Great report Optimist!

[Optimist]

DMD2017. The girls all claimed that it was "official". The extra 10 was clearly a concerted effort, not just a stray girl. Maybe they have agreed to take advantage of new gullible visitors.

It does not make a good experience.

Like you say, I don't think much of girls trying to fleece clients. It is a matter of expecting to be treated with a basic level of respect I am appalled that Alizeh at Dietzenbach tried that on you: the word spreads between clubs as many of the girls know each other. Alizeh is introducing a new bacteria to Dietzenbach, which is my RTC preferred club

At least Villa Venus at 30 euro is a better option than running into girls after 50 at Freude ( compare 40 at Dietzenbach and 60 at La Luna)

About food. I am well used to bringing food in thanks, but it was not attractive as a way of whiling the time until a target girl appeared. I hate going out of a club to eat: that's just my choice.

I was at F39 for I think six hours, and if the most attractive girls were taking "breaks" they were more like half days off. Makes it difficult for customers. The less attractive girls took zero time out, meaning in effect, a very poor lineup

Cheers

[DMD2017]

I spotted Cindy returning from a room and immediately sat down by her. She had a queue of customers waiting. Again a decent session, even though she asked for 10 euros fro extras. I am told by several regulars that I was suckered on this, but I did not realise as I had read other customers having the same experience throughout the club. A decent session but she also had a dreadful cold and shakes so I kept my distance. She was tired from being unwell so was not very enterprising in her service. We finished and I was still moderately happy.

It's funny. I thought the talk with the theke made her change back to normal, but if she is still playing some customers, I would avoid her on future trips! I guess a leopard can't change it's spots! Even though the last time she gave me okay service at normal pricing, I felt she was trying to show the theke that she changed so that she could stay in the club because she was reported for cheating customers before!

There was now a two hour period when none of the girts I wanted were to be seen (and I knew they were not in rooms). So I went with glass wearing Alice. Thse who know me will laugh. Huge huge natural breasts of a short frame: not fat, but sturdily built. She also turned out to have a cold!. All these colds were cooling my ardour. Again the 10 euros for extras. A decent session but I had lost my interest, calculating the number of viral entities floating around my head.After this session still none of my targets, so I took a fourth girl, whose name I foret, even less my type. Exactly the same story, leaving me with the feeling that God was having a good laugh.

There is a mall not too far away. Sometimes before I come into Dietzenbach late afternoon, I go to the nearby mall to pick up things and then I see 4 or 5 girls from the club on their break. I'm sure the girls from F39 must do the same being close to a shopping area!

I avoided F39 this trip because of the reports of pricing. I have to say, even though I didn't go to F39, I didn't miss it! I had a good time at the other RTC, found new favorites at Bernd's, and (started and) ended the trip with Dietzenbach!

I guess it's for the best I avoided F39 because if any of the girls ever tried to cheat me (like Cindy), I may forgive them, but in the back of my mind, I would not forget that they tried to cheat me before! I hope the theke will straighten things out with those involved before other people avoid the club and then it starts to go downhill again!

I wonder if the semi-new girl, Alizeh came from F39? When I started the trip with Dietzenbach, she was as good as any of the other girls with 30 Euros (the old "new" pricing, which changed a few days later), but when I had her at the end of the trip, she tried to cheat me with some 50 Euro scheme (to which it's good to know the theke in case of cheats)! No, she didn't succeed in getting extra money from your's truly, but I felt a "How dare she!" feeling for even trying to do this! I might go with her again (if she's around) in my next trip, but with caution (which might ruin my session, thinking "Will she or will she not" do this again) but any money transactions will be in plain view in front of the theke.

[Optimist]

A bit more detail on my visit.

I went in search of the fabled Patrizia. This involved a train ride to Bochum HBF, and then a maybe 15 minute tram ride (I was foxed at first that the trams at HBF are underground at the front of the station). Then it was a ten minute walk (half of which was waiting for pedestrian lights to change). The shed in which Freude sits at Freudenbergstrasse 39 is one of the most depressing constructions possible. Still, I hadn't come for the architecture.

I got buzzed in, given a towel, walked over to the desk and paid 20 euro (the entry price is changing frequently so it may be different by now). Went downstairs to change, came up and put my valuables in the small lockers by the door and looked around.

I had forgotten how large the club was. Maybe 6 times as big as Dietzenbach, maybe 10 times the size of Villa Venus?. Maybe more. But it had all the elements of a Red Carpet Club. Rather dingy lighting, couches sparsely occupied by sundry inactive girls (in view of the no approach policy). Like Luderland, the club is a faded glory, clearly having once been intended to be a "proper" FKK (think like Babylon), but now does not fill up its space.

There is a nice eating area but no food. Unless one counts the cheapest possible pain au chocolat and poor apples to be sufficient. Coffee and cold soft drinks available there and on the rear side of the front desk.

I was determined to waste no time and luckily immediately spotted Bella hiding in a darkened corner. The layout (with a dividing wall) is such that it is hard to see more than half the club at any one time, and as the girls tend to stay put it is hard to keep an eye on everything. Anyway, Bella and I chatted briefly. I had bee told her service was poor, but she had a superb slim body so I didn't care. In fact in the room she was very active and worked like a trooper, with some astonishingly deep penetration. She continued the theme I had encountered in the Duisburg RLD the night before, the favourite word being "mit". The session would have been much better but she was clearly ill with a cold so I kept clear of her mouth. 40 euros and a moderately happy man. Talking later to a German guy it seems she gave me better service than she is known for: he laughed in sympathy when i said I had been with her. But I was happy with it

After the session she disappeared and didn't return for about two hours. This is a point Vito makes about Dietzenbach and certainluy also applies here, even more so on my visit. Girls seemed to disappear into the recesses of the club for unknown purposes for extended periods of time. I think the popular girls do this to avoid working.

I spotted Cindy returning from a room and immediately sat down by her. She had a queue of customers waiting. Again a decent session, even though she asked for 10 euros fro extras. I am told by several regulars that I was suckered on this, but I did not realise as I had read other customers having the same experience throughout the club. A decent session but she also had a dreadful cold and shakes so I kept my distance. She was tired from being unwell so was not very enterprising in her service. We finished and I was still moderately happy.

From then on I started to get really fed up. I had my eye of three or four girls who I had seen in he distance at various points, but all of these were disappearing either occasionally with prebooked customers or into the club recesses. I kept close to the pay lockers and could see that these girls were hardly working at all. And no sign of Patrizia, so I asked reception if she might be coming today, to which the answer was that the working girls were self-employed and who knows when, if ever, they might turn up. A very legally correct answer, but not helpful.

There was now a two hour period when none of the girts I wanted were to be seen (and I knew they were not in rooms). So I went with glass wearing Alice. Thse who know me will laugh. Huge huge natural breasts of a short frame: not fat, but sturdily built. She also turned out to have a cold!. All these colds were cooling my ardour. Again the 10 euros for extras. A decent session but I had lost my interest, calculating the number of viral entities floating around my head.

After this session still none of my targets, so I took a fourth girl, whose name I foret, even less my type. Exactly the same story, leaving me with the feeling that God was having a good laugh.

After another hour's waiting I finally saw one of my targets emerge after a gap of several hours. Unfortunately another guy beat me to her. They went to a room, and within three minutes came back separately having aborted the session, for reasons which if I am guessing revolved around what services she provided. She sat down while I felt the bad atmosphere emanating from her couch, but I thought I had to strike. But before I took one step she had whipped up her towel and strode into the hidden recesses of the club, a universe full of the best looking girls, but unseen by ordinary mortals.

And then immediately I saw one of my other targets going off to a room with a guy.

And that is when I decided that anything would be better than sitting on a couch in such a downbeat atmosphere, listening to soulless music, with no food, by the paylockers waiting maybe two hours or more for an available girls.

On the journey back I had more fun noticing the current trend for slim German girls to wear the tightest leggings possible. So maybe God was giving me a consolation.

Would I repeat. Yes, but only if I felt lucky or were in the company of regulars like Vito, EastGoing and so on

[Vito Corleone]

EG. Welcome back. The forum is better for your reports: it is nice to get real information instead of .....well I had better not say. Yes, the consensus is that I paid too much. I know I am not the only one, so everyone needs to be warned to refuse to pay 50.

Patrizia. I have heard of her legendary service from others as well. Unfortunately she was not there.Great description thanks

Interesting that the 1 hour virus is spreading. When I hear that I just refuse to go to a room pointblank.

Because of such scamming, and pressuring, this recent trip was my cheapest trip in all my years in Germany. Normally I spend maybe 2000 to 3000: this time only about 800 or less. In all the clubs I was asked on entering a room if I would stay for an hour: in response I only stayed (on most occasions) less than half-hour. The more pressure the less I stay.

Cheers.

I did a many new girls at f39 & was only asked once about time. Bella always asks but I've been with her many times. I mostly did my regs at Venus & grim.

[Vito Corleone]

I am afraid you have been cheated about prices.. Last week I was there and I can confirm what Vito said.. And I have just asked a guy who lives very close to f39.. Prices haven't changed. Maybe they took advantage of a poor foreigner, LOL! Possible extras shouldn't be agreed for money in these clubs, because they are all inclusive, and what is not included is illegal! LOL!

For the rest, I would agree about the general situation and the service. There are 2-3 new (one had previously been misbehaving in Verena) little young stars who think to be clever misses universe, wanting and insisting on at least one hour to provide some kind of services. The funny thing is that it seems they just started the business, if not else because of the age, but they deal harder than the veterans. I must say I took (only once, for short whiles) the 3 of them and cannot complain that much, even if none of them made me happy, I would probably even repeat hoping to have some satisfaction on a second chance, but I would prefer on their "request", not on my initiative, to have an edge.

Welcome back EG!

I also agree about Patricia. She is quite an experience. Difficult to describe. Just have to experience her. If anyone has heart issues best to stay away. I've been with her many times & she never gets boring. The level of intensity rose a bit too much during my last session with her & after an hour I told her to stop. Too over the top that day. Anyone been with her more than on e knows exactly what I'm talking about.

Karina at Venus was a total nympho! Opposite of Patricia. Both great service but karina much more sensual. Did private after she moved on from Venus then off to a big club.

Patricia's sessions are like when I drive 250-270 km on the autobahn. It's exciting but also quite intense. It's also difficult to keep this speed but the thrill of flying with your hair on fire is great. I would pass out if I drove an hour non stop at those speeds. That's what it feels like with her. I generally drive a high end car but it's not a Porsche! She keeps pushing the pedal till the engine explodes!

[Kuni042]

EG. Welcome back. The forum is better for your reports: it is nice to get real information instead of .....well I had better not say. Yes, the consensus is that I paid too much. I know I am not the only one, so everyone needs to be warned to refuse to pay 50.

Patrizia. I have heard of her legendary service from others as well. Unfortunately she was not there.Great description thanks

Interesting that the 1 hour virus is spreading. When I hear that I just refuse to go to a room pointblank.

Because of such scamming, and pressuring, this recent trip was my cheapest trip in all my years in Germany. Normally I spend maybe 2000 to 3000: this time only about 800 or less. In all the clubs I was asked on entering a room if I would stay for an hour: in response I only stayed (on most occasions) less than half-hour. The more pressure the less I stay.

Cheers.

Yes. Fully agree. I also spend less and less money. Question is: what to do with all that money? BTW: I had a few very good experiences at Salome at Herne. Seems there always 2 or 3 busty girls. 3 or 4 really good looking ones. And my favourites: 2 or 3 Germans that cater to my verbal fetishes.

[Optimist]

EG. Welcome back. The forum is better for your reports: it is nice to get real information instead of .....well I had better not say. Yes, the consensus is that I paid too much. I know I am not the only one, so everyone needs to be warned to refuse to pay 50.

Patrizia. I have heard of her legendary service from others as well. Unfortunately she was not there.Great description thanks

Interesting that the 1 hour virus is spreading. When I hear that I just refuse to go to a room pointblank.

Because of such scamming, and pressuring, this recent trip was my cheapest trip in all my years in Germany. Normally I spend maybe 2000 to 3000: this time only about 800 or less. In all the clubs I was asked on entering a room if I would stay for an hour: in response I only stayed (on most occasions) less than half-hour. The more pressure the less I stay.

Cheers.

[BigBuddy69]

About the extras, I heard that now they cost 10 euros each, maybe that's why the British gentleman had to pay 50.

[EastGoing]

Will do detailed report next week, but just a quick update now.

Entry 20 euros ( before 14.00)

About 20 girls, of whom 15 were larger than I like, but that is me. I had several sessions costing 50 euros each, which I was told (and had read elsewhere)) is now the rate for 30 minutes of Freude service. One session was 40 euros for a reduced service. All the sessions were very average.

The annoying thing was that the girls I was chasing would disappear off for ages for breaks. One girl did two 30 minutes rooms in five hours and was the rest of the time out of action.

After five hours I got fed up waiting for my last remaining three targets and left. Also I was starving.

There are two types of girls here. Those who have almost no customers (about 12) and those who are overbooked or hiding (about 8). Not a good scenario.

The club doesn't have the fun family atmosphere of Dietzenbach. So much so I ended my time at Freude thinking of how could I get to Dietzenbach and back in a day. Regretting the desertion of Dietzenbach

So. No return for me. Of course my visit was tempered by the retirement of my Dietzenbach Queen. I had been hoping to find a replacement but found none at Freude

I am afraid you have been cheated about prices.. Last week I was there and I can confirm what Vito said.. And I have just asked a guy who lives very close to f39.. Prices haven't changed. Maybe they took advantage of a poor foreigner, LOL! Possible extras shouldn't be agreed for money in these clubs, because they are all inclusive, and what is not included is illegal! LOL!

For the rest, I would agree about the general situation and the service. There are 2-3 new (one had previously been misbehaving in Verena) little young stars who think to be clever misses universe, wanting and insisting on at least one hour to provide some kind of services. The funny thing is that it seems they just started the business, if not else because of the age, but they deal harder than the veterans. I must say I took (only once, for short whiles) the 3 of them and cannot complain that much, even if none of them made me happy, I would probably even repeat hoping to have some satisfaction on a second chance, but I would prefer on their "request", not on my initiative, to have an edge.

I would like to mention a unique experience in life, something incomparable, simply matchless, a survival test with highly possible traumas, specially inside, mostly in your brain and soul.. but not only, LOL: a room with Patrizia. Most men don't go a second time with her, which is probably why it seems that she has slowed down more and more, trying to moderate herself, to behave, not to overabuse, sequester, [CodeWord123] and traumatize the helpless victim who fell into her trap, having mercy of the terrified trembling customers in the (execution) room.

I was with her once when she arrived last year, and I am still frightened when she comes too close to me, LOL! She sees my terror and she sadically comes to me, even sincerely friendly and reassuring me about her intentions, but I still shake and don't go back with her. So, one evening last week she literally lifted me up and took me by force towards the place of the execution, I managed to escape by luck (actually she put me down before getting by the theke, it seemed a mile to me). I agreed to enter because she promised me she would spare me and she would lie down like a perfect corpse (like many of her colleagues normally do, I appreciate them a lot when I think of Patrizia). Furthermore, rooms by the entrance have windows, so I could have tried to escape from there if she hadn't kept her word..

She is a woman a man should try for having something to tell his friends and St Peter when his moment comes, because she's capable of things you wouldn't even imagine.. and even if you did, you wouldn't find a girl who could do them, specially in that way, with such a fire, even if you paid thousands, I guess not even movie actresses.. The closest girl to her which I can think of, but very far second place, is Karina from Venus in last spring, a fantastic sex maniac, bisexual (even tri, quadri, pentasexual, etc., pratically with-any-creation-of-God-whether-animated-or-not-SEXUAL) nymphomaniac.

If I hadn't received a warning for an argumentative post (for ironizing about writers who don't post a single info and write useless posts!?!?) I wouldn't have stayed silent for about 1 year. Now I'm not used anymore to post and so far I think I wrote even too much, I don't miss that much reporting my adventures, so be happy with the little I share. Or report me again to moderator

[Vito Corleone]

I understand that they changed the prices again. In November it as 40 for 30 minutes and 70 for one hour.

2 weeks ago it was 30 for 20 min. 40 for half & 70 for 1 hour. Everything included.

[DMD2017]

Until the pricing goes back to normal!

[Triptogamont]

The club doesn't have the fun family atmosphere of Dietzenbach. So much so I ended my time at Freude thinking of how could I get to Dietzenbach and back in a day. Regretting the desertion of Dietzenbach

So. No return for me. Of course my visit was tempered by the retirement of my Dietzenbach Queen. I had been hoping to find a replacement but found none at Freude

Thanks for the update, Optimist. Not that I have a huge amount of experience, but I've found NRW RTCs to be ok for drive bys, but not for longer stays. I'm interested to hear about the rest of your trip. Say Hello, to Kathi and Vanessa at LL for me!

[Optimist]

BB69. Correct. My experience was however of 50. Other members who were there last week were charged 40. I was prepared as I had read of customers being asked for 10 for extras.