FKK Club Freudenbergstr 39

**Neurosynth** · 09-09-17 00:03

FWIW I've done exactly what I suggested to good effect. I. e. Girl said "covered only" in a place where BB was the norm, I said "well, in that case, I'll pass," and then the girl said "well, OK. " And it was good.

I don't consider this pressuring the girl. I consider it being a smart consumer in a commercial setting.

**Myrrh** · 09-08-17 22:29

Originally Posted by Neurosynth [View Original Post]

I wonder what would have happened if you started to walk away upon hearing about the CBJ. Maybe they say no, but if pressed a bit will go along.

If a girl doesn't want to do some thing but ends up doing it due to pressure, financial or otherwise, then she probably won't do it very well. You don't want a girl sniffing the cock before putting it into her mouth, pulling a face when she takes it out as if she had tasted something bad and even drooling spittle into a napkin when she finishes, even though you hadn't come in her mouth.

Sometimes a badly cooked meal is worse than no meal at all.

Originally Posted by Optimist [View Original Post]

Myrrh, thank you for the illuminating if depressing report.

It maybe wasn't as bad as all that.

One bit of advice that I posted a few months ago was for guys to get over to Germany if they could, at least a couple of times before the 'deadline', to get themselves known to a few of the girls in the clubs. If a girl knows a customer's tastes then it is likely that they may default to it with no questions asked. The girls also tend to talk with other girls about what to expect from customers. On my recent trip after the new law came into place I was really glad that I had followed my own advice.

**ExpatLover** · 09-07-17 07:24

Originally Posted by Myrrh [View Original Post]

On a recent visit to F39 I went with a few girls and noticed that these girls were now resolutely following the 'new rules'.

Some girls have never been particularly happy providing bare BJ and unprotected sex. So, they have welcomed the new law and see it as their opportunity to switch permanently to 'safe' services only.

And so they should, might be your view, because no one should feel pressured to break the law?

So if you want to be 100% in keeping with the new law then you may want to consider these girls as they wanted condoms for everything from the start, even though they were bare pussy / suck without girls in the past. I found their performance and enthusiasm to be significantly lacking BTW, so you may want to take that into account also:.

No risk of breaking the new law there are no controls and if any be sure it will be on dessous day, just the girls are refusing to provide it if.

**Optimist** · 09-06-17 21:24

Myrrh, thank you for the illuminating if depressing report.

**Neurosynth** · 09-06-17 19:53

Originally Posted by Mac75 [View Original Post]

Neurosynth, I tried to reply to your PM there but your mailbox is full!

Oh sorry for the trouble! Storage is so cheap I don't understand why such a low limit on saved msgs is enforced.

Anyway, there should be room now.

Thanks!

**Mac75** · 09-05-17 18:13

Neurosynth, I tried to reply to your PM there but your mailbox is full!

**Neurosynth** · 09-05-17 01:01

I wonder what would have happened if you started to walk away upon hearing about the CBJ. Maybe they say no, but if pressed a bit will go along.

**ExpatLover** · 09-02-17 20:31

Originally Posted by Myrrh [View Original Post]

On a recent visit to F39 I went with a few girls and noticed that these girls were now resolutely following the 'new rules'.

Some girls have never been particularly happy providing bare BJ and unprotected sex. So, they have welcomed the new law and see it as their opportunity to switch permanently to 'safe' services only.

And so they should, might be your view, because no one should feel pressured to break the law?.

Obviously the new law is not applying for the experienced monger or well know one, it is a least working for me. Will I go to AO obviously no because the risks are too high.

**Myrrh** · 09-02-17 14:27

On a recent visit to F39 I went with a few girls and noticed that these girls were now resolutely following the 'new rules'.

Some girls have never been particularly happy providing bare BJ and unprotected sex. So, they have welcomed the new law and see it as their opportunity to switch permanently to 'safe' services only.

And so they should, might be your view, because no one should feel pressured to break the law?

So if you want to be 100% in keeping with the new law then you may want to consider these girls as they wanted condoms for everything from the start, even though they were bare pussy / suck without girls in the past. I found their performance and enthusiasm to be significantly lacking BTW, so you may want to take that into account also:

Johanna:

Dyed blonde hair with dark streaks showing at the roots. Often wears a heavy looking black net necklace and combines this with black stockings pulled up past the knee. Timid, shy looking girl who sits there quietly by herself most of the time occasionally giving a little smile. A bit soft bodied particularly round the boobs and lower stomach. She has been there over a year but I have never found considered going with her before because she never shows any interest as you walk past. Not surprisingly she gave a particularly unenthusiastic and stand-offish performance in the room.

Kristina:

Used to be called Elisa when she worked at Grimberg until recently. Slim and slender girl with nice, full and pert boobs and long, shapely legs. The rest of her body is slender and shapely as well. Dark skinned with exotic looking pretty face and long black frizzy hair. Sounds good? Well that is as good as it gets. Extremely work shy in the room as will only want to bang for about 5 minutes before finding some excuse to stop. Maybe because of her good looks has a cynical attitude in not really caring if the guy comes or not or is otherwise satisfied.

Then there were some other girls who I didn't try but heard were also clean pussy girls:

- Simona: Girl who wears black glasses which have slightly thick lenses.

- Anni: Tallish girl who always wears bra and underwear along with thigh high stockings. Has a large black beehive 'big hair' hair style.

I am not saying that other girls there do AO, just that if you don't want to be tempted into breaking the law then you can't go far wrong with the above girls in that regard.

**ExpatLover** · 08-31-17 08:17

Originally Posted by OlgaVaz [View Original Post]

I skipped Day 3 of mongering to do a bunch of sightseeing.

On Day 4, I went to Bochum by rail from Essen. Didn't realize how packed the trains could be during rush hour. Only way to get to F39 was by taxi cab from the rail station. Got there by 6 pm, paid 30 E (I think), got a robe and a towel from thekenfrau. Not much orientation: showers downstairs, food to the right and the parlor (and Kino) to the left of the check-in desk. Bar around the back. I like the interior of this place better than FKK Dietzenbach (see FKK Trip Day 1) but not as fancy as Sharks (FKK Trip Day 2) or Palace. The were about 8 ladies, about the same quality as Dietz in my opinion. But you can see them better in this environment.

After shower, I strolled around the empty place and introduced myself to 4 of the girls. I recognized Cindy and Nicole from discussions here. Food was so-so. The basket of sausage looked good but it tasted a bit "raw" to me. Probably how they like it there. I had some super hot (temperature) chicken soup and met a nice German guy. We chatted for about 45 min when I realized I should go get some f**king done. Just then Cindy sat on my lap and we went to the couches to chat some more. Unfortunately her English was non-existent. Fortunately, I had some help with translations from my new German friend. Cindy tells me she is 20 year old. But I'm pretty sure she would be illegal in the USA..

Good conclusion it is what I am writing many times, there is no need to visit this kind of clubs, there are many solutions to get a reasonable entry fee in the big clubs with lot of nice clean girls, the nice girls are not going in this kind of clubs believe me.

**OlgaVaz** · 08-30-17 22:04

I skipped Day 3 of mongering to do a bunch of sightseeing.

On Day 4, I went to Bochum by rail from Essen. Didn't realize how packed the trains could be during rush hour. Only way to get to F39 was by taxi cab from the rail station. Got there by 6 pm, paid 30 E (I think), got a robe and a towel from thekenfrau. Not much orientation: showers downstairs, food to the right and the parlor (and Kino) to the left of the check-in desk. Bar around the back. I like the interior of this place better than FKK Dietzenbach (see FKK Trip Day 1) but not as fancy as Sharks (FKK Trip Day 2) or Palace. The were about 8 ladies, about the same quality as Dietz in my opinion. But you can see them better in this environment.

After shower, I strolled around the empty place and introduced myself to 4 of the girls. I recognized Cindy and Nicole from discussions here. Food was so-so. The basket of sausage looked good but it tasted a bit "raw" to me. Probably how they like it there. I had some super hot (temperature) chicken soup and met a nice German guy. We chatted for about 45 min when I realized I should go get some f**king done. Just then Cindy sat on my lap and we went to the couches to chat some more. Unfortunately her English was non-existent. Fortunately, I had some help with translations from my new German friend. Cindy tells me she is 20 year old. But I'm pretty sure she would be illegal in the USA.

Cindy seemed affectionate outside but once in the room she's really just not that experienced and was a poor lay. LFK, DATY, BJ, CG, Mish, Doggie-I didn't finish with her but after 20 min or so she seemed kinda dry, so I gave up. Some other issues I have with her: during DATY, I noticed a lump on her labia. Maybe it is natural, but slightly concerned me. Also her feet were really filthy. She used some baby-wipes to wipe them off after our 30 minute session. She didn't plan to showered after? Weird. Anyway, gave her 40 E and a 5 E tip. Don't know why.

I decided my next girl would be Eva with the big hanging tits. She was the first one I met and also seemed to have the most fun when chatting with me. Eva was much better (experienced) in the room: LFK, DATY, BJ, Mish, Doggie and finish. Gave her 50 E for 30 min. After cleaning up, I asked thekenfrau to call me a cab to the hbf and I left by 21:15.

In reflecting, I might go back to the NRW clubs in the future but I think for a guy who doesn't speak German, can only do 2-3 girls a day, and the type of porn-star look I like, I'm probably going to be sticking with the bigger FKK clubs in the future. Have yet to try Artemis and World. Back on the plane to USA by morning.

**Myrrh** · 07-14-17 22:57

Originally Posted by Triptogamont [View Original Post]

Came back up to have a look around. Overall, was not very impressed with the lineup. Maybe 10 girls, and no real lookers. About as many guys.

When I visited on 3 separate occasions last month, each visit being several days apart, there were only 10 girls in the line up each time.

To those of you who have visited this club in the past over the last 2 years you will know that 23+ girls was the norm. I have never visited before when there was less than 18.

Yet now even on a weekend night there were only 10 girls.

The thekefrau put the best face on the situation. Girls were on urlaub.

Urlaub? When you would have expected that the girls would have been queuing up to take advantage of those guys desperate to make the most of the period before the law change when they knew they were guaranteed to have AO sex without difficulty?

It would seem that the girls have realised that the game is up and they should move on to other things if they want to make good money, before they are forced to move through lack of customers.

Nearly all of the 10 girls who were there could best be described as the 'rump'.

F39 normally has a smattering of new girls, who are usually more attractive than the regulars, but who don't stay long when they realise what they have let themselves in for.

But none of these new girls were there.

With only 10 girls and almost as many men the club looked extremely empty and deserted. The girls lolled about on the couches like sardines washed up on the rocks, stranded.

Congratulations to the owners. They have been going out of their way over the past year or so to ruin this once promising club with their constant daft changes and it now looks like with the help of the new law that they have succeeded.

I can only see this club surviving in the future as a second string FKK club where the girls don't provide AO like in the RTCs but don't charge as much as the well known FKKs. So time to say goodbye?

**Triptogamont** · 07-03-17 15:41

Sorry, I didn't realize Freude had it's own forum. I visited in June. Link to post is here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...056&viewfull=1#post2049056.

**Marine One** · 07-02-17 17:27

I visited F39 in early June. The crowd was sparse and there was no couch action like in the good old days!

I was attracted to Johanna because of her great rack. She was very nice in the public area and promised AO. But when we got into the room, she turned very cold and insisted on no CIP. She gave a good BBBJ and then rode me cowgirl. I "accidentally" came inside her. She cut the session short and spent the rest of the evening glaring at me in the bar area. I did not feel very guilty and will not repeat her.

Next I had a repeat session with Alexandra. I love her body, and gave her a big cream pie dog style. Would gladly repeat -- although I am not likely to return to F39 due to the sparse choice of girls and lack of public action that I recall from prior visits. The government has wrecked the place.

**Myrrh** · 05-20-17 17:14

Originally Posted by WanderingGroo

I spent 140 minutes in the morning on Sunday before my flight back to the USA.
Cindy is still there as with Nicole. Apparently, they were let off with warnings, which is why Cindy was nicer to me on Sunday morning (but I didn't take her) and Nicole gave me the stink eye as she walked by (she had no business but Cindy still did). Poor Nicole seemed isolated as the rest of the girls didn't even talk to her! I stuck with my favorite two girls and left for my flight.

I wonder what has happened to WanderingGroo? He seems to have wandered off?