FKK Club Freudenbergstr 39

[Optimist]

Use1. Wow. You have a long memory and know much more than me. For me there has been a decline in all the clubs I know over the years: you are right. The atmosphere at Freude is very quiet, and the decor depressing. But not miserable: one has to make one's own atmosphere here. It would be much better with a bit more fun and manele as you say (in my opinion)

Sorry you did Rebekka: I do not think she is good with anybody I was going to post but you have done it first. Good.

You had luck with Larissa: her service is very variable.

Cheers.

[Usel1]

18 girls present in the board, but only 10 pictures and for sure less ladies present, may be, 'cause of break time, pause or housekeeping (collecting glasses and empty ashtray).

As far as I was concerned reminding the nice old times. Now gone. Missing the spice soup and sandwich.

The atmosphere is also gone and not happy as in the past; there is a general sadness all around and no amazing and performing girls such as Andreea music leg tattoo, Emma her relative, etc.

To mention a beautiful small dark blonde girl, really amazing even if without hills all the time but she sounded to be as an attraction for customer, just placed the towel on a sofa and never seen with any customer but always going away to avoid approach!

Another girl to mention is Rebeca; beautiful but a complete disaster and disappointment!

Repetition forecast: -0. 000 %.

That's way no other girls wanted to have her for a trio but she was sad and boring to tourn between the other girls to claim customers just not understanding way she was isolated.

Waste of money and no way for her to understand your duty not to be a plastic doll just able to say no!

But come upon the good girls!

Glasses eye Simona; so kind and nice especially when dedicated to BJ; great head giving and lot of passion.

Maja; very kind and available; Rebeca "alter ego".

Both to be repeated at 100% score!

But the new welcomed entry is Larissa.

She is nice, not sophisticated and her passion sounds to be really true. To be wished to marry.

.

Disappointed a bit about Christina; she should take away some breaks, hopefully wishing her to return to be passionate.

Another girl to be mentioned, a tall Bulgarian brunette; my companion did her twice but he forgot the name.

Hope somebody recognize her.

I'm sad I had no time to have a trio with her small and slim Bulgarian friend.

They sounded promising!!

Summary; Freude should return the its beginning atmosphere and the drop has not only due to new "Gesetz".

Missing Dagi (Dagmar); she knew how to manage the system. My best wishes to her!

[Optimist]

Is romanian and is said to be 18. Pale skin, very slim, sunny disposition, medium height, post feeding breasts. She speaks decent English.

She is a good-natured girl. Somehow she gives the impression of being pleasantly surprised to be working here. I failed many times to follow up her friendly approaches, but she continued to greet me. Eventually I went with her and did 40 minutes for 50 euros. Good DFK, and general good service, probably will get even better with experience. She is amenable and wants to please, and can take a vigorous session. She was a decent conversationalist. I repeated another day with a 20 minute session for 30 euros.

She made a nice contrast to the experienced, skilled, and less bouncy Ivana. They often sit near each other in the far left of the main room. Neither are members of the girl mafia which seeks to impose its views. Andrada is really nice: when told her I was unable to get a session with the overbooked Ivana (who had a day of pre-booked clients), she immediately secured a booking with Ivana for me, even though that meant I would not go with her (Andrada). That is class.

[Optimist]

Bianca would be enough reason to go to Freude, for her beautiful face and ability to make time pass in a flash. But in addition there is Ivana, Bulgaria, who gives amazing service. However she speaks no English.

A couple of picture links

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Ivana+Pauschalclub+Mnster&client=ms-android-motorola&prmd=minv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0wprvq9HdAhUBe8AKHVO0DeAQ_AUIEigC&biw=360&bih=512#imgrc=2gwqU-kGdhNuSM:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Ivana+Pauschalclub+Münster&client=ms-android-motorola&prmd=minv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0wprvq9HdAhUBe8AKHVO0DeAQ_AUIEigC&biw=360&bih=512#imgrc=2gwqU-kGdhNuSM:

I did several extended sessions with Ivana. She was a very correct and serious girl, opening up very quickly about herself and discussing her life options. As well as being interested in her clients. Of course this is not why we go to FKK. But it is what turns a good time into a special time.

She is very good looking in an unusual way. Slim. Usually very very busy. Her performance in the room is stellar. With great reactions to DATY and sex, superb kissing, deep penetration and other services. She is willing to try practically anything.

I guess the only caveats are that the BJ was not the most pleasant (especially compaared to Bianca) and that there is not the sense of wayward fun (even in adversity) that Bianca has.

As with everybody in this club there is no hassle over pricing or timing.

[ExpatLover]

I guess I need to write about some girls. I ask myself why, since I don't need to review for my own interests. I find my own way but am grateful to the posters who give helpful reviews. So I just try to pay back.

Freude is not a trendy place anyone would boast about going to. It is like a workhorse, devoid of glitter and style, underfed, but still producing the goods. The girls are similar. Maybe homely rather than porn star lips and breasts and heavy make up. They fit into a low key environment where most guests are local ethnic Germans, with a smattering of ethnic Turkish, and international visitors. As one girl said to me, she had tried one of the big clubs and hated the late night party guys who only wanted to do drugs in a room with a girl. Freude is more of a local pub type of place..

Thanks but she is just a prostitute nothing more and probably married if really gypsy, trying to suck as much cash as possible from us if we are stupid enough.

[Optimist]

I guess I need to write about some girls. I ask myself why, since I don't need to review for my own interests. I find my own way but am grateful to the posters who give helpful reviews. So I just try to pay back.

Freude is not a trendy place anyone would boast about going to. It is like a workhorse, devoid of glitter and style, underfed, but still producing the goods. The girls are similar. Maybe homely rather than porn star lips and breasts and heavy make up. They fit into a low key environment where most guests are local ethnic Germans, with a smattering of ethnic Turkish, and international visitors. As one girl said to me, she had tried one of the big clubs and hated the late night party guys who only wanted to do drugs in a room with a girl. Freude is more of a local pub type of place.

Some girls are however very attractive. Bianca is one. About 45 kgs, slim, fine features, currently temporarily above her normal size. Profile wise she has the beauty of the famous Egyptian Queen in the Berlin Museum. Full face she has a gypsy beauty, and a smile which turns up in a shy way when she is pleased at a compliment. Unlike the full smile when she gets a lot of money. Very unassuming but with an ability to build up a client base due to her talent for chatting, her liking for schmusen, her versatile tongue, and a slightly off the wall character. She is cautious with new guests, not liking ones who are not respectful, and ones who are hard long fuckers. She is the sweetest girl, with the greatest kiss. But she can have the loudest voice when necessary. On a german forum she was just referred to as "A Star Is Born" so I am not alone in my liking for her. A girl of firm views, quick decisions, and great affection. The longer I was with her the more she was engaging: on my last day I was with her for many many hours on and off.

I don't like to "score" girls so will say.

Looks: superb (at the moment less gazelle like).

Kissing: unsurpassable.

BJ: amongst the best ever.

DATY: excellent quiet response.

Sex: good (limited in duration).

Repeat Factor: 100%.

Personality: excellent for me.

I will report on other girls who are also excellent.

[Optimist]

A week is in long time in politics, but in Freude it barely gave enough time to start the clock, but at the same time, empty my wallet.

The club has been described recently so I won't do a step by step guide. Apart from my first steps when the door was opened by the errant Bianca from Dietzenbach. In the last year she has changed her style from Rasta bad girl to elegant Greek Goddess. She was of course delighted to find that I had tracked her down: she later confessed that she didn't expect me to turn up at Freude on her trail. She underestimated my dogged devotion. More relevant, some girls are just not very good at rounding up clients, lacking enough self belief.

Barbara the Thekefrau (there is a support one when Barbara is off) runs a strict operation, keeping a keen eye on the girls. On my first visit she was formal and correct, but by the seventh day she was making it clear that I was an approved guest. Each day there was a small sign of a new level of acceptance in the greeting and goodbye. Many of the guests are very regular and by the seventh day a handful were having conversations with me: I think they had discussed me with each other and decided I was a welcome and serious guest, not just a clueless foreigner flying in and out. So, initiation over.

The girls were very friendly without exception. I tend not to make much contact with girls I will not go with, but all were pleasant to me, a huge improvement on for example Sharks, where girls who one rejects then totally blank one. Of course there are inter girl disputes, but these are always hidden as in all clubs. There is the usual girl mafia ostracising girls who do not conform with the group norms. Of course some of these girls are the ones who make most money, no surprise. Some girls as in many clubs are stressed by theur need to make money, and due to the complications of their home circumstances. Not for discussion in a forum. The key point is that they do not take it out on the customers, unlike Precious Princesses is some clubs.. Because it is not a big club with regards to the number of girls (about 20) they all know what each guest is doing. One example of the nice behaviour is one girl who kept chatting to me briefly and I felt I needed to explain that I was not going with her as I was waiting (for four hours) for another girl to be free. The girl I was speaking to immediately went to the girl I wanted, interrupting her with a man, and made a booking for me. Very nice. Certain girls are very busy due to their good service and the local clientele knowing the score.

The music is pretty downbeat (lots of miserable emotional english language stuff). I confused a girl who was asking where all the men had gone: I said they had gone downstairs and all topped themselves. The secondary Thekefrau puts on Manele, and the atmosphere immediately lifts. For some reason one girl decided to spend a long time dancing her many ample curves around and on my small frame for the best part of half an hour (I think she had been told of my liking for manele). The other customers seemed unmoved but the girls thought it funny. But in general the customers in this club seem unmoved unlike the party nights at say World, when all the eccentrics come out.

The service in this club includes DFK and DATY, and rarely, anal, included in the basic rate. As well as some other things. Some potential guests might find the optics of the girls a bit disappointing. Certainly if I were to go to a club just to look, this would not be my favoured place. But there are some very nice looking girls. Bad service here is more likely to mean reluctant DFK, no response to DATY, and no sexual skills, rather than the wilful disrespectful service given by many girls in some other clubs. In this club you can be fairly confident of going to a room and getting decent service.

So, as long as one is not expecting a day at a spa, it can be a great experience. Some attempt at German will be appreciated, but many of the girls speak Englishes of various forms.

Girls I have been with: to follow.

[Optimist]

Even if they are increasingly shabby. I returned to Freude in some trepidation after my less than successful visit in July. I made sure I got there before 12.00 so I paid the reduced 20 euro entry. Of all the clubs I ever visited this has the least pre possessing exterior: doesn't exactly lift the spirits.

The door was opened by my beautiful longtime Queen, who, because in the last month she had lost her phone and was out of touch with her friends back home, I thought might not be there. The lack of whatsapp had struck me as odd. When I saw her I could see that her stories appeared to have some truth. Apparently she had sent a message via a friend which got a bit garbled in translation. She did the usual for entrants: giving a bathrobe (but forgetting the towel), and introduced me to the ThekeFrau, announcing (incorrectly) that it was my first visit and causing confusion by telling the Thekefrau that I spoke English, but the ThekeFrau was not so happy with this and asked if I would speak German, so I said yes, and she relaxed a bit. My girl announced me to the club as "Iubitul meu" and went off with a broad grin, which nowadays I rarely see on her. (When I saw her the next day she was happier as she had got my money from the previous day and sent it home" Of course, her smile is in direct proportion to the access to my wallet.

There were about 16 or so girls, and although the number of men varied it was rare that there were fewer than ten in the club, and often 30. So a good ratio.

The interior of the club is large, with about 30 rooms, sauna, a kino, and one large main room, with a couple of additional areas with sofas out of the way. Definitely designed for a more upscale and busy club. The girls approach only occasionally and politely. So there is little to do during a long stay (no real food, although food can be ordered in).

So the only attraction is the girls. There was a preponderance of girls way out of my size range, and a few decent but not outstanding looking girls. Of these two or three at least would have attracted me even had I been in Sharks. So the main attraction left is the service level.

The girls are friendly without exception and do not get awkward when rejected. I went of course with my wayward Queen who updated me at great length on the trials and tribulations of her life. Clearly I was the first listener she had for a long time. No more about her.

As for other girls, I relied on my old techniques. I watched to see which girls were busy and how they behaved with the men. Not infallible but a good starting point. Especially when combined with some information from German visitors. Some German, or at least Google Translate, can be an advantage, but many of the romanian girls speak English.

Service levels including DFK and DATY are pretty much reliable in this club. No need for negotiation or game playing. With one girl I chose several additional things without discussing price in the full confidence that there would be no nasty surprises at the end. She enjoyed the sex and session very much, being probably sex-wise in the top five in my whole career. She made it quite clear, as did others, that some girls select customers on whether they think the customers respect the girls.

In the evening sometimes they play romanian music. So there can be a bit of a party atmosphere, especially if like me, you join in with a bit of dreadful dancing, and allow yourself to be used as a lapdance customer (no charge, just fun and laughs).

So, a club worth trying if you want to get the sort of service which used to be universal. Compromises need to be made on the ambience and optics, but so far as optics are concerned, there are some decent looking girls. Some customers come here for the service, which if you want, can have some unique points, and then go to more salubrious clubs for a day's Wellness and maybe a special girl or two.

[Polyamorist]

If there are any Robin Hoods in Forums, it are those which write critically about clubs and girls! They have to deal with the "shitstorm" afterwards started by the "good-news-only-journalists" everywhere which defend "their" clubs and girls, but in reality they are defending their wallets to club for free!

Salaam Mr Birds. So very true. And let us not forget that the girls suffer too when the quality of customer goes down. They don't know if they're fucking a genuine pays-his-way monger or one of these lying freeloaders. FKKs make a big mistake when they encourage these loser astroturfers. It's bad enough when they write fake reviews but incredibly self-defeating when they attack actual paying customers. Babylon Elsdorf is a classic example of an FKK that went down this path and lost lots of customers.

I do think Maxime is entitled to analyse things from his perspective as he has been one of the most consistently illuminating contributors to ISG.

[Wanking]

Here in Fruede, wet miserable day outside. Got in for 20 happy hour price. Not feeling very horny yet, had 4 cums and good times in Arabella yesterday.

Around 12 girls, mostly gypsies. No beauty's.

25 minutes now 30.

40 minutes now 50.

60 minutes 70.

Used to be 20 minutes 30 euro. So extra 5 minutes now.

[SpermBirds]

The assessment of Maxime concerning FC and the problems over there couldn't be more Wrong. He obviously doesn't know what he's talking about. There was no action of "rebels" or whatsoever he's dreaming about. There is a major difference between the owner of FC and the head-Admin of FC which causes problems and results in the current situation as it is right now. Quite normal if the 2 main actors are having a fight. People tend to forget how forums work, and certainly in Germany and even is smaller countries near Germany which also have (smaller) forums to gain some money from sponsors. The main Sponsors are Saunaclubs as you might expect. Some Forums have a lot of sponsors, some only have a few, some only make money trough banners and stuff like that. Those banners are "managed" by some companies, mainly linked to some of the forums.

In Germany (and especially in NordRheinWestfalen) are several forums, some of them are small and have around 5 Sponsors, some of them are big and have 30 to 40 Sponsors. Several clubs also give away "Free Entries" which the Forum can distribute to (some) of their writers. That incentive is nice for the writers, but off course leads to "specialists" which write on every forum and try to collect as many free entries as possible. So far no real major problem, but some "Sponsors" are greedy and want their "club=sponsor" to be linked with positive feedback only. Some clubs go very far in that perspective.

Some famous incidents:

* The famous Babylon-sponsored car driven by one of the Admins of the French forum is the most famous incident. This "Babylonfan" was given a car by the "Sponsor" and drove around to other clubs as well, but mainly he moderated the largest French forum like there was only 1 good club in the whole world. They erased several postings from numerous writers which had a little critic on the club. This Babylonsponsored car- story ended a while ago with the Babyloncar-driving-frenchforum. Administrator being kicked out of another club which was not fund on him parking on their clubpremises with a car full of Babylonstickers and so and being a moving banner, no respect. How silly can it be. This guy ended up being kicked out of Babylon itself later and so cause he took a girl out of the club to stay at his house but oh well. Now he is one of the co-owners of the same French Forum. Funny enough, they don't moderate the Babylon-section that strictly anymore. You can actually read critics there now, what a change! Babylon doesn't give away free entries there anymore (before they threw like 10 every month at least). In other words: no more only superwomen there, like anyone seriously would believe that anyway! Just a brief example on how it works.

* in Belgium is a small forum with like 30 to 40 writers but "specialists" in copying their postings in every possible forum. You have 3 major Dutch / Belgian forums by the way. They hired a new "commercial talent / admin" to get new sponsors. He went to all the possible clubs off course (free entry by the way) and got some new sponsors. But this guy turned out to be a complete asshole and he took some publicity-money, sold the free entries the forum got to make some pocketmoney for himself and so on. This small forum went to all the clubs with false numbers of forum traffic and so on, just ridiculous.

* in Germany are even some "professional" writers which get paid by some clubs, or get free entry all of the time in a club to be like a good-news-only-journalist in every possible forum. Most of these guys are total idi. S but OK, like mentioned above mainly from a few clubs, again Babylon for instance. They sit around every week-end in the club, drink and eat for free, gossip about everyone and maybe, maybe they make half an hour. Most of these guys have been kicked out by FC by the way!

Maybe Maxime was being kicked out of FC too, probably even, because he reacts like this here without any reasonable knowledge about the situation. If someone "hacked" the FC-content, it is the socalled "sociopath" which is off course NOT one of the founders by the way. The actual founder has no back-up of the content as it seems for the moment and was probably not that active anymore with the forum content anyway (logical because he has different businesses) and "lost" the key. There will be some law-issues which will take some time to arrange stuff like who was the right to "publish" what and in that / this "period", FC works at -. Sex instead of -. Org. Maybe it would be wise to comment on a situation if you actually KNOW things instead of "inventing" stuff because you don't like the Admin. The stuff about the "rebels" must be the most stupid comment found about this situation. If there are any Robin Hoods in Forums, it are those which write critically about clubs and girls! They have to deal with the "shitstorm" afterwards started by the "good-news-only-journalists" everywhere which defend "their" clubs and girls, but in reality they are defending their wallets to club for free! That's how it looks like in reality!

[Rogue Nation]

As I understood it, it wasn't really a "hack" but just some infighting between two guys that played a role behind the scenes. The actual mod was kicked out and apparently he took all data with him, which is now at the alternative address. It has been more than a week and the original site is still displaying the "we're back soon" message. It was always clear there was a good connection between FC and the RTC clubs and the only reviews you occasionally red from the mod, was about RTC clubs. It is now claimed the owner of the original site had a hand in getting the RTC websites taken offline by the host, so they are no under the. Sex domain as well (and offering free entry cards through the new FC site). It really is worth getting the popcorn out. I personally agree about Maxime's statement about that mod, but then again, I was banned for questioning some of the over the top reviews about louder lounge.

FC has a very strong connection to the RTCs and their owner. They even stopped reviews on the clubs when the owner told them to. Questionable if they are really independent.

The fight was quite a serious one, the guy who was kicked out did actually read Private Messages throughout the board. Just be careful.

[Free Dude]

Since F39 became an AO RTC, quality of the girls decreased rapidly, despite some exceptions that indeed moved to LuLo, Bab, etc.

The sociopath was one of the founders / webmasters / mods of FC, who banned almost everyone who had an opinion that was not his. Most frequent writers stopped writing, except the ones who had (or claimed) the same opinion as the mod. Some "rebels" finally made an end to this dictator by hacking the FC website (including removing his SU access probably). It will be up again soon probably, let's hope with "normal' mods and new writers!

As I understood it, it wasn't really a "hack" but just some infighting between two guys that played a role behind the scenes. The actual mod was kicked out and apparently he took all data with him, which is now at the alternative address. It has been more than a week and the original site is still displaying the "we're back soon" message. It was always clear there was a good connection between FC and the RTC clubs and the only reviews you occasionally red from the mod, was about RTC clubs. It is now claimed the owner of the original site had a hand in getting the RTC websites taken offline by the host, so they are no under the. Sex domain as well (and offering free entry cards through the new FC site). It really is worth getting the popcorn out. I personally agree about Maxime's statement about that mod, but then again, I was banned for questioning some of the over the top reviews about louder lounge.

[Maxime]

Since F39 became an AO RTC, quality of the girls decreased rapidly, despite some exceptions that indeed moved to LuLo, Bab, etc.

Actually could you summarize this soap? My German is not so good. I understood they were having problems with some kind of sociopath.

The sociopath was one of the founders / webmasters / mods of FC, who banned almost everyone who had an opinion that was not his. Most frequent writers stopped writing, except the ones who had (or claimed) the same opinion as the mod. Some "rebels" finally made an end to this dictator by hacking the FC website (including removing his SU access probably). It will be up again soon probably, let's hope with "normal' mods and new writers!

[SpermBirds]

The club has lost a lot of it's appeal for most regulars. Several former Freude-girls are spread in other clubs in NRW, for instance a few in Luderlounge, some to other rather rubbish clubs. It is quite simple: the guys which visit those kind of clubs get bored very rapidly and don't tend to repeat often with a girl which provides AO (95% of them do in RTC-clubs). These kind of clients are more the "collector-type" of client, they wish to fuck as many girls (bareback) as possible, if possible the whole club at least once. With most of the girls, they won't repeat because the main goal / interest is to add them to thier "collection". Therefore, no new girls, nothing interesting. They stop to visit the club: consequence: girls leave the club because they don't make money anymore. Transfer to Arabella or Luderland or Babylon or whatever to get fresh customers but there it's the same problem: other collectors (or some they already had) and after a while, the barebacked themselves "out of business". It's quite simple.