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  1. #103

    Bernds, Sankt Augustine-Meindorf, Turks

    Quote Originally Posted by CBGBConnisur
    39 is owned by the same people as Artemis, who are Turks, I guess the owners want to market it to Germans only, and generally whites only. I think the only other major club in the NRW that discriminates is Bernd's and the once existing St. Augustine club. Red carpet clubs are usually Germans only.
    I've never seen anyone being turned away at Bernds or at the Sankt Augustine-Meindorf club either but now that you mention it the clientele from Anatolia is rather sparse in attendance. Maybe they just know not to go.

    The only Red Carpet club I am aware of that had a no admission policy for non-Germans is the Alperbeck club. It probably still has this policy in force would be my guess. As I've mentioned before, it has a German flag flying in front of it and on their webpage. That German flag is not a random thing but is meant to send a signal to non-Germans.

    They will tell you at the front door that it is for members only and then send you on your way.

    There also was an FKK club in Muenster which very specifically said on its webpage that it was an all German club. I've tried to relocate this webpage but not had luck finding it. This was years ago.

    Turks seem to be most widely discriminated against so if you look even remotely Turkish or Middle Easternish, your options are most limited. There are probably some South Asians who may pass for Turkish.

    If you fall into this category, there are clubs targeted at a Turkish clientele where you will be more than welcome: Penelope in Essen and Ali Baba in Wuppertal, z. B. The tape on their club information line gives the directions to the club in Turkish.

    As for East Asians, the Duesseldorf area is home to a large number of Japanese and Chinese so so long as you aren't too way off the beaten path, you should find no problem at all being accepted at a club.

    Also, if you speak fluent German, you should be able to talk your way into just about any club no matter where you are from. Just make sure your grammar and vocabulary is in Ordnung. It is your passport to just about any club in Germany.

  2. #102
    39 is owned by the same people as Artemis, who are Turks, I guess the owners want to market it to Germans only, and generally whites only. I think the only other major club in the NRW that discriminates is Bernd's and the once existing St. Augustine club. Red carpet clubs are usually Germans only.

  3. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Radler
    I had asked last May whether an African-American friend would be welcome. The desk lady asked whether he spoke German. I responded that he did not. The desk lady told me that he would not be welcome. She said, maybe if he spoke German. She went on to tell me that this is a club for Germans only, and they only let me in because I speak German (I didn't believe her on that).

    My guess is an East Asian could get in. But South Asian, Middle Easterners and those of African decent, no way.

    English speaking guests are uncommon at this club. Most clubs the girls know right away I am American from my accent. At this club, the girls would become puzzled when I ask them to guess where I am from, usually guessing the Netherlands.
    I've never seen a black man there, although I've seen several at different Ruhr clubs.

    Have seen a Chinese guy there once together with some German business partners. The Chinese guy kind of made a boob out of himself, he seemed very confused about what was going on and kind of got on the girl's nerves. I felt a bit sorry for him as he looked lost. Hell, maybe he was drunk.

    Never seen any Arabs or Turks there either, so maybe it is "white only" after all. Never thought about it.

    As mentioned by Radler, it is kind of a local joint.

    I suppose it is the equivalent to going to a local neighborhood Welsh or Scottish pub. You may be welcome, you may be very unwelcome.

  4. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Radler
    I had asked last May whether an African-American friend would be welcome. The desk lady asked whether he spoke German. I responded that he did not. The desk lady told me that he would not be welcome. She said, maybe if he spoke German. She went on to tell me that this is a club for Germans only, and they only let me in because I speak German (I didn't believe her on that).

    My guess is an East Asian could get in. But South Asian, Middle Easterners and those of African decent, no way.

    English speaking guests are uncommon at this club. Most clubs the girls know right away I am American from my accent. At this club, the girls would become puzzled when I ask them to guess where I am from, usually guessing the Netherlands.
    The owner of FKK39 is a Turkish Muslim to boot. Very odd to have a discriminatory door policy.

  5. #99

    Shame..

    It's a shame. So far I had no trouble entering these clubs. They were friendly towards anyone comes in. This club seems an exception (bad one)Especially if the owner (probably is a Turk) owns the Artemis who makes megabucks from Berlin's Turkish community as well as visitors from Turkey.

    Regarding the story of the pimps who was caused trouble. They should have taken necessary precautions to prevent it not penalised the clients.

    Anyway I've already asked them what the stuation is over there. I told the I don't want to waste my time and money at their doorstep by turned away. There are countless opportunities in Germany anyway.

    Let's see their anwser.

  6. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by Rizla44
    Creature 2 your reports are excellent .The club will be on my visiting list.But you've quoted:

    When he take the management of this club from a German guy, he didn’t allow the Turks came into the club. I guess this club is taking precedence to German local customers.

    My question is that is this still going on? It seems unfair and discriminatory.
    I had asked last May whether an African-American friend would be welcome. The desk lady asked whether he spoke German. I responded that he did not. The desk lady told me that he would not be welcome. She said, maybe if he spoke German. She went on to tell me that this is a club for Germans only, and they only let me in because I speak German (I didn't believe her on that).

    My guess is an East Asian could get in. But South Asian, Middle Easterners and those of African decent, no way.

    English speaking guests are uncommon at this club. Most clubs the girls know right away I am American from my accent. At this club, the girls would become puzzled when I ask them to guess where I am from, usually guessing the Netherlands.

  7. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by Rizla44
    Creature 2 your reports are excellent .The club will be on my visiting list.But you've quoted:

    When he take the management of this club from a German guy, he didn’t allow the Turks came into the club. I guess this club is taking precedence to German local customers.

    My question is that is this still going on? It seems unfair and discriminatory.

    Travelerb69 was told that story by a wg. She says that Turks are not allowed to come in as a guest, but there is a long story behind. At the beginning, the owner let the Turks to come in, then the Turkish pimps get in and started some discussions and asked benefits from the wgs then the boss had to had that gate discrimination policy.
    Yes, I also find this is not fair. I think this is still the case there. But more experimented members of Freude can advice us better, about the latest situation. Because I wanna return either.

  8. #96

    A question..

    Creature 2 your reports are excellent .The club will be on my visiting list.But you've quoted:

    When he take the management of this club from a German guy, he didn’t allow the Turks came into the club. I guess this club is taking precedence to German local customers.

    My question is that is this still going on? It seems unfair and discriminatory.

  9. #95

    My vacation for Brunettes (Part 4)

    15th of July, Tuesday, FKK Freude 39, (pending report)

    After our discovery of Finca Erotica, we were ready to new discoveries. Normally, I would like to devote my remaining days to discover new Partytreff clubs such as “Bar zur linde” or “Partytreff Willich”. But Travelerb69 proposed to visit FKK Freude 39, I agreed. We visit the club just a few minutes before noon time, so we had rights for the reduced entry of 30 Euros.

    The club is mostly on a single floor, only the locker room and the showers are downstairs. Apart from that, the food court, the self service refrigerators, the sauna, the kino, the meeting room and the fuck rooms are located on the same level. It is not a small club thought. When we were there, girls says us the new wellness area is constructing with whirpool etc (nowadays it should be open already). So the club expands easily by terrain. The owner I guess is the same Turkish dude who runs Artemis in Berlin. When he take the management of this club from a German guy, he didn’t allow the Turks came into the club. I guess this club is taking precedence to German local customers. We get this feeling while Travelerb69 and I were cruising in the club and we were speaking on English between each other. All the girls were looking at us as they have seen something strange. As a matter of fact, we were attracting their attention, this is another pickup tactic!

    There were a huge variety of girls. There were at least 30 beautiful girls and some MILF available at Freude that Tuesday; they were mostly from EE, majorly from Russia, but they were also some Polish, a few (surprise) Romanian and Bulgarian, some blond Germans, some Turks, some latin Americans from Brazil and some other countries (either Paraguay or something like that). I especially liked the proportions of MILFs presented here compared to other clubs. Travelerb69 has done his homework and had a shortlist of name of the girls which are good service providers.

    For my part, it is too hard for me at my age, to get the names in my memory. I met a Polish girl from my last visit in March ’08 to Heavens Gate, Victoria. She told me the business in Heavens Gate is more severe since last months so most of the Polish girls quit the job there and she was working for a month in Freude. After some small talks, she drag me to kino and starts to show me her BBBJ skills. A session in the room was inevitable. Should old acquaintance be forgot?

    Victoria, Polish, brunette
    Body: 5/10
    Look: 5/10
    DFK: 7/10
    BBBJ: 8/10
    Sex: 7/10
    Damage: 50 Euro
    Time in the room: 21’

    She wasn’t young and wasn’t that attractive already and after I saw her last March, she gained some more few kilograms, so she was not that attractive but her sex was wild as I remember well, that is why I take her. This time, she wasn’t that wild, ooops.
    She continued BBBJ’ing and then riding me in cowgirl. She kisses good but as she smokes too much, her breath was smoking too. Then she lay down and I fucked her in missionary. She reached her climax in missionary, I was on top. And after she was KO, she was happy and then she lay me down, slipped the condom and continued BBBJ’ing me fastly and with the help of her hands. I was close to finish, I tried to stop her in order not to come that early but she did continued to blowing me. At the end, I pulled my cock but by accident, I did squirted some of my fluids into her mouth. She says this is frühstück (breakfast) for her. It wasn’t my fault, she didn’t listened me and at last I lost my ejaculation control, we only stayed 21 minutes in the room. I gave her 50 Euro, she didn’t requested much but she wanna see me again, several times that day. I said maybe later on, but I prefer not to repeat her.

    Two things I liked about Freude; one is the food and second one is the couch action. As the whole meeting area are formed of couches, most of the girls sits over the couches and the punter approach them over the coach. With that, you may follow your favorite girl in mind, with another punter, whether she hugs or kisses. That gives you a preview whether to go with her or not. You, later on, can ask your lady a trailer or a teaser over the couch before investing your time in the room. Sometimes, the intimacy over the couch may take a well 10 minutes before going to the room and that is a real added value of the club.

    Travelerb69 always following her name list and he was happy doing that. He went with a Russian girl to the room and he recommended her to me. What the real friends are for? These is the brotherhood for pussies, isn’t it? He wave hands to that Russian. As a confirmation, she smiled at us. I then approached this Russian girl, she was Tashia (or Dashia), I am not %100 percent sure about the spelling. She was sweet and talkative. I asked whether she kisses ( I know she does but I wanted a trailer over her couch). After a few teaser, we then continued in a room.

    Tashia, Russian, blond
    1.70 m
    Body: 8/10
    Look: 8/10
    DFK: 9/10
    BBBJ: 9/10
    Sex: 9,5/10
    GFE: 10/10
    Damage: 50 Euro
    Time in the room: 39’
    Will repeat: Yes, definitely

    In the room, we had too much fun, as much as we had yesterday with Natalya in Finca Erotica. She was a very sweet slim young girl and she was polite. I wonder how she would receive my large friend, she should utilized enough lube inside. Her BBBJ skills and DFK ability was in a higher standart. We had relax times in the room and we stayed nearly 40 minutes in the room. So, I already compensated to rushy session of Victoria with Tashia.

    After that session, I chat with a Turkish girl Ayfer over her couch, then we go to sauna to chill out together. We stayed in the sauna a well 45 minutes by pauses. Normally, I can not stand the sauna more than 15 minutes but it was that hot inside. And I was waiting Travelerb69 having a session with a Chinese girl from his name notes. After that, we should leave the club to check Heaven’s Gate in Dorsten but he was still in the room with Chinese lady. After the sauna and shower, I continued the conversation with Ayfer. We were new faces for her and she was curious to hear our story to make the tour of NRW FKK’s. She would like to know me more. She asks whether I saw Dusseldorf city center and Konigsalle? I said no, not yet. We only visits clubs, not downtowns. I then realize this is at least my fourth visits to the area and I only saw small towns. She says her home is close to my hotel in Kaarst and than she offered to guide me in the city, she says there are good restaurants, nice shopping avenue etc. on downtown and she requested my phone number. I was a bit schocked but recovered fast and told her I don’t use a mobile in foreign countries. She asks she could join me after I left the club, I told her we are gonna go to another club in Dorsten and then I donno when I will return to hotel. She asks what are we doing tomorrow morning, she might join me tomorrow in the morning. I said visit another club than me fly back home, Travelerb69 continue his tour in Germany. I said maybe we can do that in my next visit to NRW, but not this time and I left this girl.
    We left the club to hit Heavens Gate in Dorsten. Travelerb69 told me maybe I kicked an opportunity to a free fuck with her. If I have the possibility to fuck a girl in the club for 50 bucks and never see her again, why should I let her get into my life?

    Bottom line for Freude F39; I really liked this club, this is a hidden jewel in Bochum. Especially, I really liked the variety on the lineup. If I might repeat this club this year, I might taste the new wellness area and I wanna go for a Brazilian, for another Russian that Travelerb69 has got on his name list and I want to do one of the MILFs there. Freude’s MILFs were gorgeous and they were tall and big.

    The same evening, we headed to Heavens Gate for some expensive slices of pizza…

  10. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Iseeu
    Isn't the power of the internet amazing? 30-40 naked women, and ISGers keep going for the same chick.

    Radler- You should be getting a commission from her....
    Actually, I must give credit where credit is due. It was Kiwi 69 that first spotted her. Kiwi 69 and I have similar taste in women, so when he liked her, I knew Ihad to give her a try. The Ice Bears had already noticed her as well (thank God I can get the jist of Dutch).

    As for the commission, I intend to see Sophie in a couple of weeks, so I plan to give her my love (or at least a close approximation of it) repeated. Likely in the mouth.

    I am concerned as to whether she survived the "Days of the Open Door".

  11. #93

    Sophie again and again

    Quote Originally Posted by Owching
    Sophie

    It had gotten after 11 pm when I saw my buddy going to the room with one of his favorites. He usually books an hour. So i had to wait anyway. Than I saw Sophie walking by and greeted her in my best Chinese. Sophie is all that has been described before.
    Quote Originally Posted by Travel100
    1st session on Monday was Sophie. Very nice girl. Much has been written about her. For me, her pace was a bit slow and her session ended up being a bit expensive (125 euros vs 50 for all the rest). But she sucked, we fucked, somewhere between 30-60 minutes I came in her mouth.
    Isn't the power of the internet amazing? 30-40 naked women, and ISGers keep going for the same chick.

    Radler- You should be getting a commission from her....

  12. #92

    2 Visits to F39 (Sat. & Mon.)

    Visited F39 twice last week. The first visit was last Sat (around 3pm-10pm), liked it enough to return 2 days later last Monday. The club was larger than I pictred it. There must be 70+ couches in the place. Food layout was nice. Its just there, when you're hungry go eat. Drinks are self serve which is also nice, saves time waiting for a simple cola or water. Line up was also nice and I spotted enough girls to have a "to do" list thoughout the night. They also have the best showers I encountered in FKK-Land, they just stay on until you turn them off.

    The girls are pretty spread out throughout a large room. The 1st girl I went with was a blonde polish girl, who was always totally naked even though it was strap day and most girls were wearing something. I forget her name, she sucked, we fucked, 30 minutes of action, we talked about the time and decided to stop. 50 euors well spent and I was still full of gas.

    The 2nd girl was the highlight. Again not sure about her name, but she wears glasses. And was another who was totally nude on strap day. She gave a very highly skilled BBBJ on the couch but her friends would mimic her slurping niases and we had to head off to a room earlier than would have been idea. Onec in the room things only got better, the glasses came off.the hair down, and she really went at it. What ever it took, fucked in every position, sucked for a long time and with plaenty of deep throat. Hot masturbation show, etc.. Highly recommend her. She's Russian and her hang-out couch is over near the enterance of the Kino (the one on the right facing the kino). She also has a friend on a nearby couch who also wears glasses, but I doubt she has the same skill, although she flirted nicely both times I was there.

    You see plenty of couch action here, the music was good, self service drinks, no aggressive girls (unless the count the one who would rub her pussy with both hands with her legs spead wide on the very next couch to me). I really liked the atmophere in this club. It was fun to pick and choose who would be good, etc. Most of the girls have couches they hang out on, so you can usually find certain girls by knowing where they hang out. They do seem to leave to go home kind of early and I missed a couple girls that I wanted to do because they returned from a session dressed and ready to head home. That's a kind of cool, unique thing about the club setup. You get to see the girls for around 5-10 minutes dressed in their street clothes, waiting for friends to finish showering, waiting for taxis and rides, etc.. Kind of cool it gives you a real idea of how some of these girls look out and about in the World. Also got me to add a couple to my "to do" list because they would look so normal, amateur, and Hot. By the way, they will let you leave and return but within 30 minutes.

    Returned 2 days later on Monday. I liked the vibe better on Sat. There was more action, more movement, etc., but because the main room is so large it never seemeed crowded. Monday was quieter. Both days it was obvious that this is a day club, day though early-evening.

    1st session on Monday was Sophie. Very nice girl. Much has been written about her. For me, her pace was a bit slow and her session ended up being a bit expensive (125 euros vs 50 for all the rest). But she sucked, we fucked, somewhere between 30-60 minutes I came in her mouth.

    2nd session was a Tall blonde, who I had added to the list after see plenty on couch sucking from her on Sat. and then seeing dressed and waiting to go home that night. Another who's name I forgot but you would have to notice her. She's very tall, blonde, brickhouse body.

    3rd session I decided to gamble on an amateur looking girl. Ola (Poland). She was shy until she realized I wanted to be with her. Lots of DFK, GFE like experience. Lots of sucking and fucking. I liked my session with, certainly worth 50 euros. Girls started leaving as it got later. There were still a few a really wanted to do, but the timing never came together.

    I'm adding this to the list of clubs I like to visit when in FKK-Land. Thanks to those who posted the info. to make a visit easy. Staff was also very laid-back and friendly.

  13. #91

    Opening Sophie++, Putri+ and Alini+++

    Some friends talked me into coming with them to Freudenbergstrasse 39. I always have resisted going to the German FKK, as many really seem to get addicted to it.
    We arrived at about 3 pm and managed to get locker keys and a bathing robe. It was very busy, not everyone was that lucky.

    Putri

    Putri was the first. After meeting on the couch, some french kissing and a BJ, we went to one of the rooms. Great techniques, very good sex but a littlebit slick.

    Alini form Brasil

    Alini was 1 of 3 Brasilian girls at the club. Dark girl with long hair, very nice big chest and a great smile. A real GFE expirience. Ended up going back for seconds.

    Sophie

    It had gotten after 11 pm when I saw my buddy going to the room with one of his favorites. He usually books an hour. So i had to wait anyway. Than I saw Sophie walking by and greeted her in my best Chinese. Sophie is all that has been described before.

    All in all a nice day. Am I hooked now? Might be. I would like to see some of the other FKK's like GT. Though Freudenberg has the advantage of the foreplay on the couch, which most clubs dont seem to have.

    We will see.

  14. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Big30
    Will probably be so packed you won't be able to move or grab a girl.

  15. #89
    http://www.fkk-freudenberg.de/news.html

    Tag der offenen Tür!

    Am 16. & 17. August möchten wir mit Ihnen die Einweihung
    unserer neuen Wellness-Oase feiern und laden Sie hiermit
    herzlich ein, unser Gast zu sein.

    Schauen Sie vorbei, es gibt viel zu sehen!

    Die Wellness-Oase ist ausgestattet mit einer neuen großen Sauna,
    Whirlpoolwannen, einer Erlebnisdusche mit prickelnden Effekten,
    einer Chillout-Lounge und natürlich versüßen Ihnen unsere Girls
    Ihren Aufenhalt.

    Der Eintritt ist an beiden Tagen frei !!!
    August 16 & 17 Free Entry, because of the new Welness-Oase with Sauna & Whirlpool!

    Regards,
    Big30

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