FKK Blue Note

[Gergiev]

I discovered some time ago that I have an ability to entertain a German woman and I have less of an ability to do so when she’s foreign.

Ja, ich auch, Jackyo...My experience is that German women respond very positively to attempts to converse 'auf Deutsch' with them. Personally I think it's even better to be a little or reasonably conversant rather than totally fluent.

'Die Deutschen Frauen' seem to find it charming that you're making the effort or perhaps struggling a little to get a handle on their language and will usually attempt to nurture your efforts and thus an opportunity for a little bonding gets under way. My hunch is that this works better than being word perfect all the way. A little stumbling along and hamming it up does no harm at all...

Jackyo, I'm guessing Ewa is one of the two girls featured on the web-site...

Do you happen to know who the other girl is ???

[Jackyo]

Jacko,
I've given a number of reports on this club and you will agree that I am of the same mind as you. I admit I haven't got the same capacity to recall names as you (do you take a notebook with you? haha)....anyhow good report and you hit the nail on the head!

Believe it or not, I manage to do this without a piece of paper.

Yeah, I know. Its hard to keep the braincells active when the blood pressure builds up further down.

I am jealous of your having seen Layla on your last visit.

I like her curves, her smile and the way her blue eyes standout on her face with her very dark hair.

She wasn't there over the past weekend and Monday. Ach!

[Forced Hand]

The Annus Horribilis comes to an end! Gott sei Dank!

I am, to some degree, still in denial about the financial crisis. I haven’t opened my financial statements in months to inspect the damage.

What to do in a situation like this? Hop a plane and visit my favorite vacation spot: Deutschland. You can label this my 2008 Escapist Tour.

So quicker than you can say kurz, schnell und spontan, I found myself sitting in a 747 (a sept cent quarante sept, to the French) on its way to DUS for a long weekend.

My objective was simple: drop by Blue Note to repeat the experiences I had when I was there at the end of June.

I’ve written previously about my abandoning the promiscuous club visits which characterized my youth. I find a club and women I like and I stick with them. It serves no purpose to go wandering through the countryside burning gasoline, dropping in on clubs I don’t know well nor wasting my hard earned Euros on shallow, random encounters with mercenary women.

I limit myself to public transportation and place a value on convenience and accessibility so this club was a priority for that reason too.

Blue Note has been adequately described numerous times. The physical layout and amenities have not changed any. Think “minimalist and barebones”. There was talk about the fact that the owners have been investing heavily in their sister club, Panthera in Ratingen and for that reason they have not been reinvesting in Blue Note."


Jacko,
I've given a number of reports on this club and you will agree that I am of the same mind as you. I admit I haven't got the same capacity to recall names as you (do you take a notebook with you? haha)....anyhow good report and you hit the nail on the head!

[Jackyo]

The Annus Horribilis comes to an end! Gott sei Dank!

I am, to some degree, still in denial about the financial crisis. I haven’t opened my financial statements in months to inspect the damage.

What to do in a situation like this? Hop a plane and visit my favorite vacation spot: Deutschland. You can label this my 2008 Escapist Tour.

So quicker than you can say kurz, schnell und spontan, I found myself sitting in a 747 (a sept cent quarante sept, to the French) on its way to DUS for a long weekend.

My objective was simple: drop by Blue Note to repeat the experiences I had when I was there at the end of June.

I’ve written previously about my abandoning the promiscuous club visits which characterized my youth. I find a club and women I like and I stick with them. It serves no purpose to go wandering through the countryside burning gasoline, dropping in on clubs I don’t know well nor wasting my hard earned Euros on shallow, random encounters with mercenary women.

I limit myself to public transportation and place a value on convenience and accessibility so this club was a priority for that reason too.

Blue Note has been adequately described numerous times. The physical layout and amenities have not changed any. Think “minimalist and barebones”. There was talk about the fact that the owners have been investing heavily in their sister club, Panthera in Ratingen and for that reason they have not been reinvesting in Blue Note.

Panthera was previously better known for apartment service but apparently has added a club section where guests can enjoy the wellness area and hangout too: much like Blue Note now.

No chance to visit Panthera but I’ve got it on my list of things to do. I met two women who normally work there and at the end of the day when things were slow, they spent a bit of time describing its layout and facilities. Mal sehen.

As I’ve written before, Blue Note will disappoint the majority of ISG forumers who prefer the larger clubs. So I say: “Finger weg!.” Stick with what you know and seek out what meets your standards. You will be disappointed with this club. It is not a major club but this is precisely why it meets my standards.

Why am I always the exception to every rule? I don’t know. I like to play Cultural Chameleon when I am overseas and most everyone I meet is usually naturally curious about where I really come from.

Bottom line: I like the small, all German speaking selection here. I like the Wohnzimmerstimmung and the Stammkunde, relationship-oriented service standards. I most of all like the price points. The 50 Euro per half hour standard elsewhere in NRW is just at my Schmerzgrenze. I don’t have to worry about being ripped off or being attacked by sharks at this club. Bref, I can relax.

So who did I meet?

Sonja is a Masseurin. Petite, nice large tits, blonde, German, 20 years old. She was dressed in a short denim skirt and a tan top. I had to meet her. She very quickly said she didn’t offer standard service, just massages. Having just been on a plane and all twisted up, I accepted. I was thinking more along the lines of an erotic style massage like Anja (who is no longer there but has moved to La Bedo) provides. It was a nice massage but she is too small to give a vigorous deep tissue type massage. When I came back the next day, I asked if I could book a massage with her but show her how to do a proper Shiatsu massage. She agreed and I did a massage on her to show her how its done and then we reversed positions and she practiced on me. Nice girl.

I had seen Anna here before in June but didn’t book a session. Now was my chance. Tiny, blonde, Polish originally but has lived in Germany for years. She can’t weigh more than 80 pounds, stand more than 4 foot 9, is mid-twenties at most. Nice ass and legs. Funny chick. I mean like really funny. She’s raising her son by herself, talked about her real job. She normally sits on one of the couches in the raised platform area waiting for customers. I said to her, it was not dissimilar to the poem which goes “Welcome to my parlor, said the spider to the fly.” All she had to do was take up knitting to complete the picture. Turns out that the poem is not known in Germany but she got the point anyway.

Then I met Alicia. Blonde, German, late twenties, petite. She has a butterfly tattoo in the middle of her upper back. Another funny, communicative German chick. All I can say is: Ahh…! Bring them on.

Then I met Sabrina, not to be confused with the black haired Sabine and the blonde Sabina. That mystery has been solved. Short blonde hair, German, probably early thirties. Nicely dressed in a red outfit with a white fringe. Sehr Weihnachtlich!. I caught her lying down on the large bed in the back in the semi-public area. Lay down beside her, started talking. Pretty soon I was rubbing her back, kissing her neck and presto! She was out of her outfit. Turns out she had rather hard tits. That was a surprise. Still the view of her backside is spectacular.

I did not get to meet Giovanna. When I arrived at the club, she was taking a shower. She got my attention immediately. Jet black hair, medium size, nice proportions. She was shaving her legs and her Mumu. I showered right beside her and my dick was just about parallel to the floor. I made a mental note to book time with her. Some other dude had made a note to do the same. He went up to her, they went off into a room and I didn’t see her again for five hours. By then she was on her way home. Naja.

I also did not get to meet the tall, thin, dark haired German woman who I had seen the last time. She also would be booked for multiple hour sessions, would surface every now and then and then disappear. She was quite extroverted, would come over to me and just start talking. Funny. Really funny chick. I don’t know her name though. I had thought she was Paula but she isn’t.

I did meet the real Paula. Polish but jet black hair. Thin, petite, wears rectangular glasses. Cute. I did well to stick to my own advice. I had decided I wanted to meet her. The first time I found her eating and I sat beside her, she said not a word. She didn’t even turn to acknowledge my presence. Nada. Some other dude from across asked her to see him when she was done eating and off they went to the races. Later, I found her again sitting at the seating area and this time I was more direct. I came over, introduced myself, asked her her name. Yes, she worked there from time to time. She didn’t live in Germany though. She gave short answers, did not much look my way. That was then and there that I decided this wasn’t going anywhere. So I sat for while trying to figure out how to extract myself from this situation. She decided for me. She stood up on some pretext, walked away. Again: test for chemistry. If the chick is not all that receptive outside of the room, chances are she will be the same way in the room. This sit and wait strategy saved me some money.

Ewa. What more can I say. That enigmatic, Mona Lisa smile. I wandered over, said we’d met before but she more likely than not didn’t remember me. She was all the more surprised when I said we’d met once back in 2004. She’s good, what more can I say. Some guys may be put off by her rather cool manner and the fact that she doesn’t have a 100 Watt smile but there is a reason why dudes come from hundreds of kilometers away to see her.

Her previous partner, Nicole, as has been written before, has moved on but.. may be back. Let’s hope so. I was reading somewhere that she is on vacation back in Ungarn.

There was a tall, dark haired chick with large tits and boots who I didn’t get a chance to meet. Anke was her name. Didn’t have a chance to talk to her either.

Then there were the Panthera girls on Sunday: Claudia, Amanda and Celine. There were a number of girls who were sick and couldn’t come in so they called their sister club, Panthera, and these three came over. Claudia is older, mid-thirties, brunette, stocky build, wears glasses. Amanda is black, early twenties, nice legs, speaks perfect German. Her constant companion was Celine who is dark haired, probably Turkish, petite, large natural tits, excellent German too.

I spent a bit of time shooting the breeze with the latter two towards the end of the day. Really nice girls. They described Panthera for me, said I should visit soon particularly as the renovation had just taken place. We also went into a long discussion about what they don’t like about clients. Celine had just come back from the room with a dude who had bit her tongue and given her a hickey, z. B. To top it off, he was really rough. After the first five minutes, she said, she was tempted to just give him his money back. Ach! The hazards of the trade. All I can say is: be nice to these girls.

I also spoke briefly to Nila, the other Masseurin. Blonde, German, medium size, more solidly built than Sonja, nice tits. She would probably be more of a deep tissue massage person. She also would have been great doing a breast to chest massage. Next time.

I also sessioned with Diana. Dark haired, from Lettland, nice legs, thin build, mid-twenties at most. Her German is functional and she laughed a lot at my jokes. We had a fun time. She went down on me while Anna sat across from us and went into this commentary on the proceedings.

And I also sessioned with Stella. All of 22, German, brunette, medium build, from Nettetal near the Dutch border. Unshaved. Delicious. Again a really nice girl and someone who is just cool to be with. I’ll have a smile on my face every time I think about her.

I left the club that evening to catch the S-bahn back to Duesseldorf. I’m standing on the platform when she comes right over and starts talking to me. No pretence, no trying to hide, none of this “I shouldn’t be hanging out with a guest outside of the club”. She lives a couple of stops past the Hbf, was worried about this long walk she needs to take through a wooded area. Very matter of fact, just a plainly normal conversation. The unreal thing about this was just an hour ago, I was between her legs sampling the goods. Then there she was in normal clothes on the train and we just talking. Nice girl also.

Then there was Sandra. Blonde, originally from Croatia but very German, petite, 28 years old. She remembered me from the last time and it was like we’d never left each other. She is about the closest thing to a real girlfriend as I’ll ever meet at a club… well… at least since I went head over heels over Jessica at Wiago in 2004 until she ripped me off at Tropicana.. but that is another story.

I met and talked to several RF dudes when I was there: Chimera and Aurel. Chimera remembers me as being the one who asked him permission to copy and translate his very detailed F39 report which is still here somewhere. As usual, they were quite surprised at my knowledge of the scene. As most of the Einheimische, they only visit clubs with a radius of where they live. So for the most part I described Bernds, Samya, etc.. As I mentioned, its not a good idea to let the girls and club staff know that you post actively on the forums. We would retreat to the sauna to exchange views. We will definitely meet again. I had numerous random conversations with dudes here and there. For some reason, I am less inhibited when I'm not speaking English.

My advice when visiting this club: take advantage of the pricing policy of this club in this way: book 1 hour sessions here instead of the 30 minute standard sessions. You will be rewarded with unhurried sessions with girls who are really very eager to please. Then do repeats. You will be greeted with big smiles and great service. There are girls who perform good BJs or who are good at f’in. I’ve come to the conclusion that what is really hard to find is a chick who does good foreplay the elements of which are fummeln, kuscheln, knutschen, kuessen, streicheln and schmusen.

Food. There hot dishes but it was hard to predict when and what. One evening there were pork chops with a green vegetable, a potato dish the other. Then also sausages, Frikadellen and Lachs one other evening. Then the standard belegtes Brotzutaten. There was fruit and every evening, they would cut a cake. There was enough to keep you from leaving the club but on my way home I’d make sure to drop by a Turkish place to get a good Doener Kebap.

Bonuskarte. They don’t actually give you a card but they have index cards they stamp and date and you sign. You provide a code and each time you come, they find the index card to mark your presence. After five visits, your sixth is free. Now if only the women provided miles or points like the airlines do.

I was, after all of this activity, fix und fertig. I get a kick out of how some of the women say fertisch.

I like this club because it is stocked with mostly German women, if not foreign women who speak German well and have some education. I have speculated endlessly about what Ewa might have studied at the Uni. I asked her directly but she didn’t give me a straight answer.

I discovered some time ago that I have an ability to entertain a German woman and I have less of an ability to do so when she’s foreign. If you are an monolingualist, you may not find this club as interesting nor the women as entertaining as I do. You've been warned.

I spoke at some length with the Thekenfrauen. Bianca is normally there. Long blonde hair, mid-thirties. Christa is the older more distinguished woman who I would remember seeing cleaning up the ashtrays during the infamous Pauschalpreisparty era of this club. Nathalie is also probably mid-thirties. She has frizzy hair, wears glasses, is curvy. All very matter of fact, all very normal.

This matter-of-factness and the fact that these women are so normal and nice is what will always have me coming back to this place. If you are looking for super facilities and eye candy though, look elsewhere. This place is basic, uncomplicated and very German and that is just how I like it.

I had considered dropping in on Bernds but its quite a hike to get there without a car and I’d have had to leave it early to make it back to my hotel room on my last night. The only place I might have dropped in on was PT Mettmann but I got lazy on Monday AM.

So who didn't I see there who I saw the last time? Rita, Marina, Rose, Zula, Michelle, Layla, Jasmin and Katarina.

I would have been quite content had Sabine, Layla and Jasmin been there. Schade!.

[Jackyo]

Is there anysite where they put up the pictures of the blowjob queen's I know im pushin my luck hard...but would love to have a pic of nicole for memory sake..she's one of my all time fav

Hey SK,

I would too!

I will write later in more detail but I was at BN this past weekend and I did ask about her. One of the girls (I can't remember who) said they were hopeful she would make a return.

In the meanwhile, the obvious reigning queen of the place is Ewa. She is constantly booked.

Funny thing about Ewa is that she doesn't really brighten up like a lightbulb: she has a thin smile, kind of like the Mona Lisa's. She sits there, smokes and it doesn't take long before someone approaches (I reacquainted myself with her, by the way - but more about this later).

I ended up in a conversation with a Belgian dude last Saturday who drives two hours to visit this club (and two hours to return home) whose only objective in visiting is to see her. Off to a room they went and we saw neither hide nor hair of him and her for hours.

I spent a bit of time talking to a couple of guys from the RF. By the way, its not a good idea to talk about posting on any forums while at this club. We'd retreat to the sauna to talk. I just hope the sauna isn't bugged.

I was about ready to throw in the towel at 11 PM (the club closes at 2 AM on Saturdays). One of my RF acquaintances said he would wait until Ewa's session with the Belgian ended and then he hoped he would be able to sneak in some quality time with her. I wished him luck and left the club.

[Travelforfun]

I have it on a good authority (a poster on the RF) that Nicole who used to work at this club is now to be found at Living Room.

She has been, by the way, nominated by several posters for the 2008 Rheinische Blaskoenigin or the Rhein Blowjob Queen.

She is a very practitioner of the art (note this is coming from someone who is not a big BJ fan).

Is there anysite where they put up the pictures of the blowjob queen's I know im pushin my luck hard...but would love to have a pic of nicole for memory sake..she's one of my all time fav

[Jackyo]

I have it on a good authority (a poster on the RF) that Nicole who used to work at this club is now to be found at Living Room.

She has been, by the way, nominated by several posters for the 2008 Rheinische Blaskoenigin or the Rhein Blowjob Queen.

She is a very practitioner of the art (note this is coming from someone who is not a big BJ fan).

[Jackyo]

I had the opportunity to nip over to Dusseldorf for some Christmas cheer and I was in a bit of a tizzy wondering which place to go to after reading all the reports on this site. I finally choose BN because it was a day trip and I was familiar with the place and had never had a bad time there. I was not disappointed today either. I checked in at 12 I think I was the first customer there. After I showered I was walking in the corridor heading to get a cofee when I looked into the "show room" on the right and Layla was lying on the bed and she gave me a big hello. I went in and had a chat with her, we "met" before a couple of times and I was happy that she remembered me. So down to business for well over an hour before I came up for air (I must learn to breath through my ears!).

The place really filled up while I was occupied and I had my shower and got myself a roll and coffee. The food here is basic but adequate, you don't come for the grub. I waited in the kino while reloading then went out to see who was about. I went back to the kino and there was a blond girl sitting by herself there. She didn't smile when I said hello so I was a bit hesitant. I sat on one of the other chairs and wondered to myself if I should approach her, however this other guy came in and ruled that particular option out for me. He was a stranger to her as well, but she wrapped herself around him when he sat down and immediately had her tongue down his neck, making me regret not making a move first.

Anyhow I sat outside at the table in the corridor hoping to catch the girls coming back from the shower. What annoys me about BN is that you can have some good lookers in the "ladies shower area" and they are called out for a lineup for some guy who wants to go to one of the apartments. (This place runs a standard brothel as well as an FKK).

I stayed there and say Layla go into the show room and she know I was sitting outside, she made sure I had plenty to see! I waited for her to finish and then went with her for another hour. She went home after that and I recharged before going with Eva from Poland, she is a trim blond with a bit of a "plain Jane" look, but she makes up for that with an excellent service. These girls give you great value for money with no rush jobs and every minute of the 30+ minutes devoted to your pleasure.

Blue Note gets full marks from me again and next time I'll get a free entry because it is my 6th visit! Well it's my 9th visit really but I only found out about the one in six deal after my third visit.

Some of the women, by the way, shower in the men's shower. You can shower along with them. Its never a problem. I've never started a session in the shower but I can't picture being turned down.

And yes, sometimes you have to snag your next session in the corridor. The club is small and its sometimes intimidating to try to siddle up to your next girlfriend in the main room because everyone can hear your conversation with her.

Or you can tap her on the shoulder and ask her to retire to the raised seating area.

Or if she is lying in the back on that large mattress, you can lie down beside her and talk to her there. You'll already be in a horizontal position.

I spend a bit of time plotting how to make my next selection without violating rules of etiquette and/or causing too much of a stir in the room.

Hanging out and shooting the breeze is part of passing the time here too. The girls have nothing against just talking even if you know you won't be sessioning with them. They don't have anywhere to do and neither do you.

[Forced Hand]

I had the opportunity to nip over to Dusseldorf for some Christmas cheer and I was in a bit of a tizzy wondering which place to go to after reading all the reports on this site. I finally choose BN because it was a day trip and I was familiar with the place and had never had a bad time there. I was not disappointed today either. I checked in at 12 I think I was the first customer there. After I showered I was walking in the corridor heading to get a cofee when I looked into the "show room" on the right and Layla was lying on the bed and she gave me a big hello. I went in and had a chat with her, we "met" before a couple of times and I was happy that she remembered me. So down to business for well over an hour before I came up for air (I must learn to breath through my ears!).

The place really filled up while I was occupied and I had my shower and got myself a roll and coffee. The food here is basic but adequate, you don't come for the grub. I waited in the kino while reloading then went out to see who was about. I went back to the kino and there was a blond girl sitting by herself there. She didn't smile when I said hello so I was a bit hesitant. I sat on one of the other chairs and wondered to myself if I should approach her, however this other guy came in and ruled that particular option out for me. He was a stranger to her as well, but she wrapped herself around him when he sat down and immediately had her tongue down his neck, making me regret not making a move first.

Anyhow I sat outside at the table in the corridor hoping to catch the girls coming back from the shower. What annoys me about BN is that you can have some good lookers in the "ladies shower area" and they are called out for a lineup for some guy who wants to go to one of the apartments. (This place runs a standard brothel as well as an FKK).

I stayed there and say Layla go into the show room and she know I was sitting outside, she made sure I had plenty to see! I waited for her to finish and then went with her for another hour. She went home after that and I recharged before going with Eva from Poland, she is a trim blond with a bit of a "plain Jane" look, but she makes up for that with an excellent service. These girls give you great value for money with no rush jobs and every minute of the 30+ minutes devoted to your pleasure.

Blue Note gets full marks from me again and next time I'll get a free entry because it is my 6th visit! Well it's my 9th visit really but I only found out about the one in six deal after my third visit.

[Jackyo]

Yes, get the discount card and use it!

The way I look at the language thing is this: if you want full participation at what goes on at an FKK club, German is indispensible. If you don't care for full participation, you can and will get by.

I have had caveman sex and it can be acceptable. You gesture with your hands to communicate, you grunt, she moans. The dirty deed is done.

When I am looking for GFE type sex, I am looking for a chick I can communicate with, someone who is funny and articulate. I have more fun with women like this.

If you speak fluent Polish, Turkish, Russian you will do very well with the women. The women at Blue Note, because they mostly cater to locals, speak German quite well. This isn't the case at the larger Fickfabriken where the women cater to tourists. Some of those women cannot put proper German sentences together.

Hanging out at at these clubs you get to figure out how to screen for chemistry. As I've written before, when I smile at her, she has to smile back. I also know that if I can make her laugh, she and I will have a good time. I avoid ice queens (though I do make exceptions as I ocassionally am in the mood for one).

The theme of Zwangsprostitution or forced prostitution hangs over the entire scene, hence my preference for local girls. Its more likely that an EE chick has been trafficked if she speaks not a word of German.

The small blonde at the reception is Bianca. Say "hi" for me. Tell her I'm the club's biggest fan on this side of the pond and that I will definitely drop by the next time I am there.

Sabine and Sandra speak some English. I can also recommend getting an erotic massage from Anja. She may be the tall Polish blonde described below who the other dude thought would understand English if she was spoken to at a high volume.

[Doctor A]

Jackyo of course you are right. The only way to do it is to learn to speak the language. Assuming I am here long enough hopefully it will come. In the mean time never fear, I am not one to turn up the volume in the hope that a language foreign to someone somehow becomes understandable when the decibels are increased.

I took the plunge and paid a visit to the Blue Note on Sunday. I am definitely glad I did. Yes it is small and simple but I love the laid back atmosphere. For a Sunday I am told it was pretty busy when I arrived about 2pm, with about the same number of guys and girls (six or seven of each). My first encounter was with Agnieszka from Poznan, Poland. She spoke some English, enough for me to determine she was 35, has a 10 year old son in Poznan, and has been at the Blue Note for all of 5 days. Nice time, nothing spectacular, but it was my first time in a semi-public environment. I thought I would have more of an issue with it but it is amazing how quickly you can block everything else out!

After a shower, a sauna, another shower, and some food I spotted a totally hot dark skinned Hispanic girl from Cuba who based on previous reports must have been Danni. The lady at the front desk had mentioned when I asked that there were two girls that spoke Spanish. As my Spanish is pretty good we struck up a conversation and when she introduced herself she mistakenly used her real name (I am sworn to secrecy). We talked for quite some time about Cuba, which I found very interesting as I have never spoken with anyone from Cuba before, and about China as I just moved from China to Germany and she found that fascinating. She said she rarely meets anyone in Germany who speaks her language so she really enjoyed talking. After 30 mintues or so of thoroughly enjoyable conversation we adjourned to one of the private rooms (at her choosing). I won't go into all the details but suffice to say after 90 minutes of multiple positions, actions, etc. We were both pretty much exhausted. I will definitely be back!

Jackyo, this proves your point. Speak to someone in their native language, or one that they are totally comfortable with, and alot of barriers are immediately broken down.

Thanks! As I say though, this club isn't for everyone. There are lots of clubs with better facilities, better food, and a larger selection. It is my kind of place though.

If in Germany, do as the Germans do: learn to speak German.

I have a friend who is married to a Japanese woman. He speaks almost no Japanese. They fly often to Japan to visit her family and he always comes back complaining that the language thing makes him feel like a child. Everything has to be explained to him. He can't read signs or the newspaper.

There is no substitute for speaking the language and speaking it well. The standards change when you are overseas. If you can't communicate, read the paper, etc.. you don't meet minimum literacy standards there.

Yelling at the women in English doesn't work. Trust me. It only adds to the view that foreigners have of "Ugly Americans".

I have a language fetish, by the way, and don't rank women who can't speak German correctly very highly.

My personal recommendation for learning German at Blue Note from a tutor would be Ewa. She is Polish but her German is impeccable (she has lived there for a while). Her declensions are all done correctly, her conjugation is perfect. She has a slight Polish accent but you can tell that she is an educated person from her vocabulary. And by the way, she is very service-oriented (as most women are at this club) and you will have a good time with her too.

[Excess]

Many of us are put off by agressive "marketing behavior" by FKK girls verging on being pests. Others of us are put off by the clubs were girls aren't allowed to overtly make the moves. (still have sizzling memories of Tanja and Anna - and others' antics of flapping open legs and slow and prolonged muschi stroking !).

Must be confusing to many club girls too !

No, Bert's behavior isn't the way to go. I can repeat here comments Germans typically make about Americans who behave like this but I'll restrain myself.

You just need to be more aggressive. Find someone you like, ask if you can sit for a while and talk and then commit.

This club has an Aniemungsverbot so you shouldn't read the women's non-marketing activities to mean they won't go to a room with you. They are all available but you need to show your interest.

As I've written before, some guys can't deal with what looks to be passive behavior on the part of the women.

This is not the proper interpretation of that behavior. You should not read it that way.

There are other clubs where the women are allowed to actively promote their services. It is the kind of thing which gets on your nerves if you've experienced it enough.

Go visit Bernds and you will see how the women work around this Verbot (Yes, they have it here too). Be prepared to see a lot of pink and gratuituous lascivious behavior and, yes, old fashioned flirting, too.

[Jackyo]

What have I learned from this? I don't speak German, but given the chance the women will try hard to communicate with me (Ewa proved that). In Bert I think I have a pretty good negative role model but he got whatever women he wanted and me the nice guy didn't.

Is he the one who is doing it right? Should I ever go back there?

No, Bert's behavior isn't the way to go. I can repeat here comments Germans typically make about Americans who behave like this but I'll restrain myself.

You just need to be more aggressive. Find someone you like, ask if you can sit for a while and talk and then commit.

This club has an Aniemungsverbot so you shouldn't read the women's non-marketing activities to mean they won't go to a room with you. They are all available but you need to show your interest.

As I've written before, some guys can't deal with what looks to be passive behavior on the part of the women.

This is not the proper interpretation of that behavior. You should not read it that way.

There are other clubs where the women are allowed to actively promote their services. It is the kind of thing which gets on your nerves if you've experienced it enough.

Go visit Bernds and you will see how the women work around this Verbot (Yes, they have it here too). Be prepared to see a lot of pink and gratuituous lascivious behavior and, yes, old fashioned flirting, too.

[Jackyo]

Based on your description Blue Note sounds like a place I would really like. Laid back, no hard sell, low scam factor, etc. My only problem would seem to be a distinct lack of German skills. I have recently relocated to Dusseldorf from Shanghai so I have had little time to acquire much beyond the ability to count from one to ten, say please and thank you, good morning, etc. What do you think, go ahead and give the place a try? Maybe I can use it as my off-site German language training! Think I could expense that as "Blue Note language school"? ; o)

Thanks! As I say though, this club isn't for everyone. There are lots of clubs with better facilities, better food, and a larger selection. It is my kind of place though.

If in Germany, do as the Germans do: learn to speak German.

I have a friend who is married to a Japanese woman. He speaks almost no Japanese. They fly often to Japan to visit her family and he always comes back complaining that the language thing makes him feel like a child. Everything has to be explained to him. He can't read signs or the newspaper.

There is no substitute for speaking the language and speaking it well. The standards change when you are overseas. If you can't communicate, read the paper, etc.. you don't meet minimum literacy standards there.

Yelling at the women in English doesn't work. Trust me. It only adds to the view that foreigners have of "Ugly Americans".

I have a language fetish, by the way, and don't rank women who can't speak German correctly very highly.

My personal recommendation for learning German at Blue Note from a tutor would be Ewa. She is Polish but her German is impeccable (she has lived there for a while). Her declensions are all done correctly, her conjugation is perfect. She has a slight Polish accent but you can tell that she is an educated person from her vocabulary. And by the way, she is very service-oriented (as most women are at this club) and you will have a good time with her too.

[Doctor A]

Based on your description Blue Note sounds like a place I would really like. Laid back, no hard sell, low scam factor, etc. My only problem would seem to be a distinct lack of German skills. I have recently relocated to Dusseldorf from Shanghai so I have had little time to acquire much beyond the ability to count from one to ten, say please and thank you, good morning, etc. What do you think, go ahead and give the place a try? Maybe I can use it as my off-site German language training! Think I could expense that as "Blue Note language school"? ; o)

And particularly to Toscana for the ROD nomination!

To answer Tosc's question, yes, I did have sessions here; mostly multiple sessions.

I think one should reward good service by rebooking as frequently as one can.

I prefer these smaller clubs. There is more a chance to connect with these women and to the Thekenstaff, I feel, compared to the large industrial Fickfabriken.

I'm just not there that often to make any significant connections at the larger clubs. I wander in and out anonymously and nobody cares who I am.

I also prefer to shop in local stores as compared to chain stores, prefer to stay in family style pensions as compared to chain hotels, and so on and so on.

I am lately unable to travel incognito to certain Partytreffs. It is kind of nice, in a way, (though it singles me out as a PT perv) but also makes me wonder what it would be like to just enjoy these services without anyone making a fuss.

I'll definitely be back to this club to renew acquaintances.