Hunter in Colombia

[Hunter]

AHH, Ok.

Hunter

[MJG Dogs]

hunter;

san francisco is the rear orifice of the country. the most anti-american, pro communist, leftist place in the whole hemisphere, kind of a hybrid between havana and caracas, except in havana i don't think 13 boys singing the star spangled banner would get beaten in the streets, by the son's of prominent doctor's and the intelligensia, with the police and the da, not filing assualt and mayhem charges, and a piece of human [CodeWord113] for a mayor who wants to blame the 13 boys. disgraceful

sorry surfer, it is what it is.......................................

[Hunter]

I personely see very little disparaging going on amongst the various vendors, in fact only two times really, which we have both been invloved in.

But as you say we will call it a day, on the Mery front at least, I am sure we will find something else to argue about.

Hunter

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"I am sure we will find something else to argue about."

No, let's not!

Thanks,

Jackson

[Hunter]

What is PRSF?

[MJG Dogs]

He is from the PRSF.... It is in the air up there. Ask the baker's dozen.

[Tom 33]

I have been a member here for quite awhile. Hunter is new to this board, but I know him personally. He has provided very useful information on a number of other boards for years.

Mery used to manage the apartments that Hunter owned. He caught her cooking the books.

Jackson, I think you know Surfer well enough. He likes to accuse everyone of a conflict of interest. When I posted about a friend who was kidnapped by a taxi on the way in from Rio Negro Airport, he accused me of having an interest in the bus company.

Hunter has lived in Colombia for many years and can provide very useful information here. He has been very helpful to me.

I have known Mery for many years and have served on boards with her. Just this morning we spoke and kissed. I have nothing personally against her.

[Surfer]

I have said all I have to say on the matter (other than that I applaud your prompt action to allow those who wish to discuss p4p in Cartagena to reclaim the forum while providing this separate forum for apartment rental discussion.)

PS The BA apartment rental business is MUCH larger and more competitive, yet the various vendors (including yourself) seem to peacefully coexist without disparaging one another on Argentinaprivate and it is lamentable that the Cartagena crowd cannot do the same.

[Hunter]

If I remember correctly you brought up the subject before on the other board that it had turned into a real estate investment board, when you brought that subject up I checked ALL previous posts for a short period of time, 1-3 months, something like that, 2 or 3 threads were real estate related and 2 or 3 were politics related, the remaining were travel and sex related, I can’t remember how many but it was something like 80 to a 100, I expect the thread is still there go and check it.

I asked you at the time to double check my findings, but you never replied to it.

I am on no right with blogs or whatever, not really interested in talking politics most of the time, you kept interrupting other thread with your politics, I pointed out that I had no problem with your politics, but just put in the politics folder or create a new thread, as initially I don’t think there as a politics folder, you got up tight about it, nothing new there.

As to the petty bickering going on the other board, you were involved with most of nearly all the time if I remember correctly, only I think three times between us, but against many others on that board, who you kept calling facists, RW etc.

I am a bit confused that when you call me a facist, neo conservative, right winger etc. We only met briefly once, politics never came up, you yourself say that I don’t post politics on the sex related boards, I rarely talk politcs to people, so where have these views come from?

I joined the first two boards in 1999, the second two in 2001, others since that have come and gone. Mery rented the first apt for me Jan 2004, I had no plans on being involved in the rental business to tourists until late 2003, so a bit hard to claim that I joined Colombian related chat boards to post about apartments.

I NEVER said I post HERE about 6 times a day, I said overall, there are less people seeking general help here than there are on other boards, so I have less to comment on.

As to threatening people, I remember threatening you once, when you called me GAY, so you asked for it, the other time that I am aware of the owner of the other board who promised to the other owners that when he visited Cartagena that he was going to come and look into things with a open mind, but after 5 days waiting and e-mailing him, with him rarely replying, then replying to my last e-mail that I was making it up, yet wouldn’t come at look at the evidence, I lost my rag and told him to walk wide around me or I would ring his scrawny neck, or something like that, I calmed down within half hour and sent another e-mail that said something along the lines don’t worry I over reacted, did he not show you that one, any other please tell me?

“Public accusations should provide proof”, I have offered TWICE here to SHOW the evidence when I am in Ctg if people are seriously interested, meet a dozen plus witnesses, etc., if you are not happy with that, what more can I say.

Merys ledger is just a small, small part of it by the way.

Well at least you admit that you first of all posted on here, then altered it, then deleted it, as I have both copies and there are plenty of witnesses here so it would be hard for you to say that you didn’t.

Actually there was only EVER few lines posted on another site, which I deleted after a few hours, also when did this take place, late October and the only other mention on another site since has been a few brief few lines, so hardly much of a public jihad.

It is most certainly true that I said I would post here to counter you, I thought it was pretty fair to give you a chance to delete it etc., if I wished to start a public jihad, would it not have been better for me just to join and start it then?

I am sure Mery or whomever can find some reason to take me to court if they want, lawyers can define exactly which word or words they want to use for whatever case, but I am sure anybody reading this will get the jist, as you say it was brought to your attention that I have OPENLY been accusing Mery of theft to people in Cartagena.

So you now claim that you didn’t post anything, well here is a copy:

POST BY SURFER: 01/10/07 2:13 PM

….. OFTEN vouched for the decency of el loco de Laguito (AKA Hunter) until he recently realized that the soft spoken and mild mannered persona was a mere guise for the Tasmanian Devil lurking within.

So much for the false accusations, unless that is somebody else using your handle, but you say you recently re-joined, was that not in your first post there?

I am not talking about the other board, I am talking about X… T… where you witnessed and others, planned on posting fictiouse accounts of problems in Colombia plus genuine news articles to keep everybody in Cartagena, the Dicky Doos as you and others called them, unfortunately not rubbish at all, as I wouldn’t play along that is when the Surfer problems started.

I can post links as I left the board after that (not sure the board even exists any more), but I can probably arrange for people who are on that board, well know handles on this board to speak to people from this board in Cartagena/PM some trustworthy independent person, as they don’t want to step up and get involved, which is fair enough. Can you suggest any independent person/s?

As to this post, I really start posts only respond to posts, as I did on the other board, the only one I remember starting was the time you kept interrupting posts with political rants. I have no problem carrying on posting here, I am not the one complaining about the posts YOU ARE, so if you keep posting I will.

I do agree with you that this is in the wrong thread, but I am only responding so its not in my hands, I have no problem moving the posts to wherever.

Hunter

[Hunter]

Ok fair enough on your comments.

The aliases are nothing to do with me, I am sure you can check where they originate from, I will reply to Surfer post, which is mostly not Mery related, if Surfer wishs to carry on the conversation, we can do it via PM etc.

Hunter

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Hi Hunter,

I appreciate your restraint.

Thanks,

Jackson

[Admin]

Greetings Everyone,

I don't know "Mery", so I have no idea if any of Hunter's complaints are accurate, but just by reading this thread I can make some reasonable conclusions:

1. On occasion the forums gets what I call "Serial Complainers", who are members who have decided for one reason or another to abuse their posting privileges by using the forum to attack somebody in hopes of destroying their business. This is why I have the "One Complaint" policy, which is rarely applied, and which prohibits any one forum member from continuously attacking and re-attacking another forum member's business. Unfortunately, the existing policy applies to other forum members, not to non-members like Mery. Perhaps it's time to change the policy.

2. Hunter is a classic "Serial Complainer" who apparently has never been one of Mery's customers, which doesn't really give him any foundation upon which to make any complaints.

3. More importantly, it appears that Hunter also rents apartments, which is an an obvious competing business interest and and obvious motivation for attempting to destroy Mery's business.

4. At least a couple of new "members" who have posted in this thread are aliases, and who's sole purpose is apparently to support Hunter's "opinions". Using shill supporters is a classic "Serial Complainer" strategy.

Anyway, I don't have the time to read all of Hunter's reports, so I would appreciate it if somebody could read them and give me a subjective summary that would answer the following question:

"Has Hunter ever provided any information related to the subject of this forum?"

Thanks,

Jackson

PS: Any future posts about Mery that are posted outside this thread will be deleted without comment.

[Hoof Hunter]

I'm headed to CTG in a few weeks. I'll call Mery. If she has an apartment available, I'll rent it. If she doesn't, I'll check someone/someplace else out. MY experiences with her as a renter have been great. Not a single problem. None of this changes anything for me. It's a business transaction, which, to me, should never have emotions involved.

[Surfer]

since several of the laguito crowd think this discussion is germane to isg, why not create a separate folder for discussion of apartment rental wars so as to prevent cluttering of the threads about p4p?

tom: i completely disagree. that other board has devolved into one with more discussion of real estate, investment, and petty bickering than mongering. i do not think jackson wants that to occur here (though he can obviously chime in when and/or if he has had enough).

also, i do not "dislike" hunter. i only met him briefly on one occasion. at that time, we were unified in our respect for mery (and our contempt for her ex husband, another laguito landlord, and his stunts).

i do not like hunter's politics, though to his credit he does not post about that on mongering boards-his rw blogs are another storey), and i do not like his proclivity for threatening people (i can post the most recent email threat he sent to the owner of the other website if there is interest, but would rather not). finally, i believe those who make public accusations should provide proof (i am told by those that examined it that the ledger hunter claimed was the smoking gun of mery's "theft" showed no more than a simple clerical error).

hunter:

"actually the first person to post on this topic on this board regarding the problem was you, i still have copies of the post if you wish me to remind you, i informed a mutual friend of your that if you didn’t remove the post that i would join the board, you or somebody else removed the post. "

this might be partially true. it was brought to my attention that you were accusing mery of theft all over town and on other monger boards (as you know i was not on the primary cartagena board at that time). i thought it appropriate to post my positive experiences with her on here. if that was truly the first mention of the dispute between you & mery on isg, and i will have to take your word on it as i have no intention of researching it, then i will say i regret interjecting the issue here. after my post, you apparently threatened to escalate your jihad against mery if i did not remove the post and it was suggested that i remove it. i edited my post, instead, to remove negative references to you (but did not delete my positive experiences with mery).

as to never posting information about hobbying, i post off and on, i never originally joined the boards solely for sexual information, i joined the boards also for usefull general information, which i post all the time on a daily basis, normally half a dozen posts a day plus with regards to colombia.

utter ruibbish. you joined the boards to hawk your apartments, not to share your sage advice. as to half a dozen posts a day, given that your total here is 30 it would mean you have posted for only 5 days. again, an attempt to obfurep001e the fact that you participate on these boards solely to advance your real estate interests.

i am presently on 6 chat boards related to colombia, this is the only board where i have gone into greater detail with regards to mery, as people asked for it or are "defending a thief". more accusations with no proof.

as to 99% of people here not being interested, i always was interested in reading non political gossip, so i expect many enjoy these slanging matches.

some do share your pleasure at cyber pugilism, but it is a small minority and is not consistent with jackson's intent.

3. as to slander & liable i know the difference, please read the posts again, you will find that whatever i say here is nothing to what i have said in person to mery and others, so they can do both.

again, your ignorance of the law reveals itself. what you say directly to a person can never constiute slander or liable (you cannot defame somebody to themself! )

note 1, it should also be noted that surfer was the person who started the comments on the other board where are i can’t defend myself, i am glad he has enlarged his small balls and posted here, with regards to the issue for the second time.

completely flase! i was not even posting on that other board when this tempest in a teapot arose! as you will recall, i had my own disagreement with that site's proprietor, about his attempt to impose post hoc conditions on my "free lifetime membership". at that time you were in his good graces, and vice versa. i only returned this month after he sent me very concilliatory emails saying, basically "i was wrong, hunter is the bad guy and you are one of the good guys. " he dropped all attempts at any conditions on my lifetime membership so i posted a few things but not about you or cartagena. i am totally back in se asia mode now.

note 2, i never had a problem with surfer on the chat boards for 4-5 years, the problems with surfer commenced alter i wouldn’t follow a plan that he was instigating with others on a private chat board to post dis-information with regards to colombian on safety issues.

their plan was to keep the dicky doos (their term for mongers in general, most of them thought that they were superior to other mongers) bottled up in cartagena by posting fictions posts of security problems in other cities and towns in colombia.

more rubbish. i make no secret of the fact that i prefer that the clueless stay in cartagena, and that view is shared by many experienced colombia visitors. nobody needs to create "disinformation" to show the dangers which lurk in most areas of colombia (even you must admit cartagena is much more heavily policed than anywhere else in the country). resorting to his procilivity for making accusations with no proof, where are all these made up stories about the dangers in colombia? please post links to them hunter so the membership can decide for itself (rather than taking your word for it).

[MJG Dogs]

I apologize for bringing the whole Mery situation to a head. This should have been done in a private e-mail with Hunter, although I thank Hunter for telling his side of the story.

I just got pissed at the others on this thread that did not know the whole story. Most of the people on this board, including myself, do not and did not know the whole story.

I agree with Tom33- I have had enough, but am enjoying the Hunter/Surfer sparing.

[Hunter]

SORRY POSTED ACCIDENTLY BEFORE, HOPEFULLY JACKSDON WLL DELETE IT

1. Surfer what Mery did with regards renting a two bedroom apartment is standard practice, as to being a competitor, there are more than enough clients for plenty of people in Ctg, if that was the reason WHY do I not cause problems with all the other agents, dozens of them.

2. Actually the first person to post on this topic on this board regarding the problem was YOU, I still have copies of the post if you wish me to remind you, I informed a mutual friend of your that if you didn’t remove the post that I would join the board, you or somebody else removed the post.

As to NEVER posting information about hobbying, I post off and on, I never originally joined the boards solely for sexual information, I joined the boards also for usefull general information, which I post ALL the time on a daily basis, normally half a dozen posts a day plus with regards to Colombia. I am presently on 6 chat boards related to Colombia, THIS is the only board where I have gone into greater detail with regards to Mery, as people asked for it or are defending a thief. If ANY board that I am on somebody pops up and says what a Saint Mery is etc., I will post information explaining she is the opposite.

As to 99% of people here not being interested, I always was interested in reading non political gossip, so I expect many enjoy these slanging matches.

3. As to slander & liable I know the difference, please read the posts again, you will find that whatever I say here is nothing to what I have said in person to Mery and others, so they can do both.

NOTE 1, It should also be noted that Surfer was the person who started the comments on the other board where are I can’t defend myself, I am glad he has enlarged his small balls and posted here, with regards to the issue for the second time.

NOTE 2, I NEVER had a problem with Surfer on the chat boards for 4-5 years, the problems with Surfer commenced alter I wouldn’t follow a plan that he was instigating with others on a private chat board to post dis-information with regards to Colombian on safety issues.

Their plan was to keep the DICKY DOOS (their term for mongers in general, most of them thought that they were superior to other mongers) bottled up in Cartagena by posting fictions posts of security problems in other Cities and towns in Colombia.

I refused to post lies (although I would have been a gainer) and left the private board, after that on the board I am now banned who would try and pick the odd fight, generally losing more and more credibility as he has a lot more skeletons in the cupboard than most.

The main difference between myself and most people is that I am quite happy to talk about and defend whatever people say, so if Mery, you or anybody else want to bring up a subject feel free.

If you feel I have not answered anything you have commented, feel free to point it out.

Hunter

[Tom 33]

Well Surf, you missed the mark again. The discussion of lodging providers is entirely germaine to the purpose of this board. The fact that you like Mery and do not like Hunter does not make the topic any less relevant. What is not to the point is your defense of Mery and bashing of Hunter. I guarantee that every person has skeletons in his closet including you and me.

The only reason that Hunter felt compelled to reply most recently was the questioning by MJG. I, too, feel that the subject has been exhausted. But MJG apparently did not. It sounds now that MJG shares my opinion.

Ya?