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  1. #45
    Great analysis! Just remember COLOMBIA

    Just looks better spelled correctly :)

    Take care

  2. #44

    Columbia Chicas

    To the young man debating whether online chicas are a waste?

    I have no experience with the online chicas, but I recently took a 2 week vacation to Medallin (first time in Columbia). WoW! Medallin is heads and shoulders above DR. This is both with pros and non-pros. I'm a very impatient and Cheap monger. So I understand his concerns.

    1. Columbian regular girls are the sweetest I've ever met. Everywhere I went I got smiles. Tons of numbers. Etc. But. Columbian women don't know how to say no. Except when dealing with sex. Chances are if they accept a date they want to screw, but you have slow down. Example. One girl I met the first day there. We talked and setup something for next day (cine). During the night she was trying all her moves on me but I just played it cool (easy to do after double trouble in Kamasutra massage). So I figured since she showed such high interest level I'd set something for the next day at cafe shop. The next day we met for an hour. Then I said I had to leave. The look on her face. She had the look like she wanted to snatch me up. The next day I told her to meet me in Poblado mall we went back to my apartment and she nearly stuck her tongue down my throat on entry. After that she literally ran to apt after she got off work. And the days she didn't hear from me she would call super early in morning to check up on me. Got another non pro in similiar fashion. You get the atussy faster when you act like you don't care (not my words that from American girl who taught me well).

    2. I know many may disagree with me. But there's a grey are with regular girl and prepago. The difference is a regular girl has a source of income, job, or rich families. The prepago is forced to go work for it. Also a point to remember. When I met a prepago (you'll know when you do) I always let them bring up the money part. On average they would all come back to my place for 60k or less. Now you ask yourself is it worth rolling the dice with nonpro or just enjoying the services of the many prepagos. The prepago's are sweet to and if you treat them like girlfriend (remember I'm cheap) then time is not an issue. My advice have Plan A, b, c. So you when you meet up with a chick you never seem in need.

    3. Poblado is a nice place to stay on your vacation, but for mongering cento is best location. I remember two sisters I met one day. I liked the younger one 19old, but she said her sister had to come along (I wasyways we agree skeptical) Anyways we agree on 40k apiece for 4 hours. To make long story short after the encounter I liked the other sister a WHOLE lot More! She was on a mission to prove to me that taking her was a good idea. Amazing! That's the mindset of these chicas. They enjoy competing with each other.

    In summary, enjoy both the pros and nonpros. Once you meet a nonpro try small dates every day till you get what you want. It's different in Columbia (it's ok to be aggressive in arranging times to meet, but let her sex you up (have 3 date rule tho). Kamasutra was my favorite MP. Those girls are friendly and are available after hours too. Didn't like Mayorista (bunch of hos lined up. Not my style). Liked Degrief Ave during the day. Found the best bargains and some nice sweet gals there.

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  3. #43
    Quite normal. She's not in love. It's just their way of playing (in a good sense) with you. A way to get to know you as well. At the most you are an amante. At the least. Just someone she talks to to pass time. For example. I see my girlfriend's amiga's. They have 3-4 'boyfriends' on the go at once. Both sides know it's nothing serious but more of playing the field to see what's out there. However if/when they fall in love with you. Watch out.

    My $0. 02

    Quote Originally Posted by BigHock58
    Met this 36 yr old on the website tagged (hey its free), in beginning of oct, she calls me everyday, text messages all day, internet chat 3 hours everynight, (with webcam so I know its her)have talked to her daughter on the internet and phone when I called and she wasnt home, because she speaks better english than the mother, sends me text messages like baby I want your pene in my boca, your pene in my vagina, my vagina is very mojado for you, but if I send a similar message back I get oh you just want a bad girl, (whats up with that)I fugure she is testing me, she seems to have a 4 hour time limit that if I don't send her a message she wonders if I miss her, has invited me to stay at her house and she will ship the kids off to her ex's, she tells me her bodi is sick from desire for me, I get te quiero mi amor messages all day, I'm looking for some insite for this behavier, is it that she is a bit older than the normal 20 something girls and really wants to meet for real, I did meet a girl here at where I work who is from BAQ and got the 2 of them on the phone and she told me that she is just a girl looking for love, and as I'm writing this I get a text mess (Papi I miss you Full! Amor I need you. My life te quiero and I'm desesperada for see you)this has been going on for 2 months now and I have tried to figure out how someone can fall this in love without actually meeting a person face to face, she has told other friend that I put her on the phone with that she has no money problems at all, has been to new york before so she is not looking for a visa, so any help or insite to her behaiver from the experts is greatly appreciated thanks, or is this normal for Colombian women

  4. #42

    BAQ Dream

    Met this 36 yr old on the website tagged (hey its free), in beginning of oct, she calls me everyday, text messages all day, internet chat 3 hours everynight, (with webcam so I know its her)have talked to her daughter on the internet and phone when I called and she wasnt home, because she speaks better english than the mother, sends me text messages like baby I want your pene in my boca, your pene in my vagina, my vagina is very mojado for you, but if I send a similar message back I get oh you just want a bad girl, (whats up with that)I fugure she is testing me, she seems to have a 4 hour time limit that if I don't send her a message she wonders if I miss her, has invited me to stay at her house and she will ship the kids off to her ex's, she tells me her bodi is sick from desire for me, I get te quiero mi amor messages all day, I'm looking for some insite for this behavier, is it that she is a bit older than the normal 20 something girls and really wants to meet for real, I did meet a girl here at where I work who is from BAQ and got the 2 of them on the phone and she told me that she is just a girl looking for love, and as I'm writing this I get a text mess (Papi I miss you Full! Amor I need you. My life te quiero and I'm desesperada for see you)this has been going on for 2 months now and I have tried to figure out how someone can fall this in love without actually meeting a person face to face, she has told other friend that I put her on the phone with that she has no money problems at all, has been to new york before so she is not looking for a visa, so any help or insite to her behaiver from the experts is greatly appreciated thanks, or is this normal for Colombian women

  5. #41
    You can be successful at the online dating thing. Just lower your expectations.

    Suggest you arrange to meet a few different online girls and just hang out. Plan on having fun and learning. Nothing more. You need to learn to crawl and walk before you can hope to run a personal best.

    In the meantime, bang putas, and do the same thing in their company. Have fun, enjoy the experience, and learn to charm them, make them laugh. At the same time, make them believe they're charming you.

    Your question about the names... Colombians have two given names and they use them interchangeably.

  6. #40

    Heaven on Earth

    And once you have them at that point, when you do hit the sack with them the sex is not even describeable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricker
    Matter of fact, I've found that with a lot of these chicas, if you hold off just a bit, it drives them crazy :)

    Take care amigos!

  7. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoof Hunter
    No disrespect, you're completely on foreign ground in Colombia, but she should be worried about her security around you??? Not very logical.

    Her security and your security are very different things. YOU'RE visiting her country. Colombia, as much as we love it, is not the safest place to disregard your security for someone else's.

    Usually, I'd meet internet chicas at my hotel or in a neutral place (restaurant, mall, etc). When they come with "security," I send them on their way within an hour. The same as I do in the USA. I'm talking about grown women here, not kids. You gotta set some basic ground rules upfront. Goes back to the being a "man" thing.

    And trust me, it works, I get more family dinner invites than possible. That's where you meet the family, at their place, not in a restaurant or bar. If all goes well and they want to accompany you to the airport AFTER you've met them, great, your choice.

    I know game when I see it. The expectation is that the gringo bobo, the marron, is paying irregardless. Now if we're all going out in a group, different story. The males in the group all pay a portion, not just you.

    Again, no disrespect, just a different perspective.
    Amigos ... actually I agree with both you guys.

    I perfectly agree with the Hoof Hunter that some of these chicas will definitely look to take advantage of an estupido enamorado. Looking for free meals for them and their friends and / or gifts.

    Then again, I agree with the HEAT that some chicas are not hard core internet daters and just sweethearts, perhaps young, maybe 18 or 19 years old, bringing along a little security meeting a guy for the first time.
    I mean guys, have you seen some our companeros meeting these chicas thru the internet.

    Also, I know we (guys with experience with la Colombiana) can weed out immediately the bad from the sweethearts.

    I know I can tell within 10 minutes (sometimes less), what type of muchacha I'm dealing with.

    Again, it all depends on her approach. Does she ask you beforehand if she can bring along a friend or does she just show up with one?
    Does she show up on time or keep you waiting?
    Does she tell she wants to go to a particular restaurant (expensive) or is she happy with something nice but more simple?

    Whether she realizes it or not she's in a mini interview / audition on our first date. Whether or not she passes the "Ricker test" :)
    Of course her looks play a big role in the interview, but her personality and heart actually play a much larger role.

    Bottom line for me on this matter: I don't care really if an amiga accompanies her on the first date ... just depends on her approach with it.

    I don't need to jump in the sack with these non-pros so quickly. I don't care about jumping their bones in 24 hours.
    I visit Colombia quite frequently and like to slowly build up the harem ... hahaha.

    Matter of fact, I've found that with a lot of these chicas, if you hold off just a bit, it drives them crazy :)

    Take care amigos!

  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoof Hunter
    No disrespect, you're completely on foreign ground in Colombia, but she should be worried about her security around you??? Not very logical.

    Her security and your security are very different things. YOU'RE visiting her country. Colombia, as much as we love it, is not the safest place to disregard your security for someone else's.

    Usually, I'd meet internet chicas at my hotel or in a neutral place (restaurant, mall, etc). When they come with "security," I send them on their way within an hour. The same as I do in the USA. I'm talking about grown women here, not kids. You gotta set some basic ground rules upfront. Goes back to the being a "man" thing.

    And trust me, it works, I get more family dinner invites than possible. That's where you meet the family, at their place, not in a restaurant or bar. If all goes well and they want to accompany you to the airport AFTER you've met them, great, your choice.

    I know game when I see it. The expectation is that the gringo bobo, the marron, is paying irregardless. Now if we're all going out in a group, different story. The males in the group all pay a portion, not just you.

    Again, no disrespect, just a different perspective.
    Again with all due respect, we just have a different view of this. I agree that you are on their tuff, no question about it, But the internet novias that I have encountered have definately felt much more comfortable inviting a CLOSE amiga or prima or hermana. Remember it is a FIRST live meeting and the numerous ladies I have met online just prefer it that way and feel much more comfortable. EVEN THOUGH you are playing on their field! Me personally I have absolutley NO problem with this hoping she is cute as well, In matter of fact if she is cute, I almost consider it another number in the celu and back-up! AFTER the initial date and everything goes well and gain her confidence, I usually NEVER see amiga, prima, hermana, again unless I ask her to bring an AMIGA. IMHO.

  9. #37
    No disrespect, you're completely on foreign ground in Colombia, but she should be worried about her security around you??? Not very logical.

    Her security and your security are very different things. YOU'RE visiting her country. Colombia, as much as we love it, is not the safest place to disregard your security for someone else's.

    Usually, I'd meet internet chicas at my hotel or in a neutral place (restaurant, mall, etc). When they come with "security," I send them on their way within an hour. The same as I do in the USA. I'm talking about grown women here, not kids. You gotta set some basic ground rules upfront. Goes back to the being a "man" thing.

    And trust me, it works, I get more family dinner invites than possible. That's where you meet the family, at their place, not in a restaurant or bar. If all goes well and they want to accompany you to the airport AFTER you've met them, great, your choice.

    I know game when I see it. The expectation is that the gringo bobo, the marron, is paying irregardless. Now if we're all going out in a group, different story. The males in the group all pay a portion, not just you.

    Again, no disrespect, just a different perspective.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiHeatLuver
    Water, communication, style, sense of humor are the absolute keys to scoring with the average Colombiana! Making them laugh and feel comfortable will go along way with the internet novia! 100% of all my internet dates have bought along a prima or hermana(or 2) on the first date, This is not for fleecing or taking advantage of me but I know 100% for sense of security, I mean think about it, she is meeting a complete foreigner, somewhat stranger for the first time, granted in a public place but still she has no idea of what you intentions are. NOW after a few dates with no real VIBES and she continues to bring friends, family or novias with her while going out, I would consider that "taking advantage" of you and dismiss her pronto! EVERYTHING HOOF has said I agree with 100% less what I have written here. Good Luck!

  10. #36

    Thank You both Ricker Y hoof Hunter

    When two or more knowledgeable persons agree on a point in ISG, you know it's gotta be the truth.

    Very informative.

    I am not desparate. I am not in a hurry. I am not going there tomorrow. I have time. Just was wondering if it's worth spending time online with these chicas and then worth hooking up with them. Seems like the answer is no+maybe.

    Thank You both

  11. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Water Boy
    Hi,

    I am new to the practice of Meeting Girls Online

    I am looking to go to Brranquilla and or CTG. mostly costena cities.

    I have no interest in going to Cali (I don't have the cojones)

    I have RTFF:

    I will use only amigos, cybercupido, latinamericancupid. I speak a crippled spanish.

    Goal: To meet a several Colombianas online. Go to the city. Bang at least a few of them on the first date. Being on a short 2 week trip. I don't have time to waste dating.

    Questions:

    1. How do you avoid time wasters ? Those who chat you up online all day long, use up your time, but have no intention of sleeping with you?

    2. Girls online are either pros or nuns. All I have run into so far are nuns. With a nun when I mention sex, even casually or jokingly, the girl hangs up the connection. These are the flirty kind of innocuous sexy comments you can get away with in the states. Why are these women prudes?

    3. When do you pop the question "So, like when I arrive there, would you like to spend the nite with me?"

    4. MOST IMPORTANT: Are there any kidnapping or robbery scams perpatrated by the online chicas? I feel squeamish letting a colombiana know which flight I am arriving on. How do I know I am not being set up for a kidnapping?

    Thank you
    Water, communication, style, sense of humor are the absolute keys to scoring with the average Colombiana! Making them laugh and feel comfortable will go along way with the internet novia! 100% of all my internet dates have bought along a prima or hermana(or 2) on the first date, This is not for fleecing or taking advantage of me but I know 100% for sense of security, I mean think about it, she is meeting a complete foreigner, somewhat stranger for the first time, granted in a public place but still she has no idea of what you intentions are. NOW after a few dates with no real VIBES and she continues to bring friends, family or novias with her while going out, I would consider that "taking advantage" of you and dismiss her pronto! EVERYTHING HOOF has said I agree with 100% less what I have written here. Good Luck!

  12. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoof Hunter
    In your case, stick to the pros. Laguito Cartagena is your calling. Not being facetious, but broken Spanish leads to being dependent on others, which means you need to be 100% trusting of chicas, something not very recommended in Colombia. Colombia is a country where you GOTTA be a "man." Meaning YOU make the decisions, yes or no, and YOU call the shots. Anything less, you'll be fleeced, or just be wasting time. You need Spanish to make Colombia work best for you ...
    I have to say, I've had friendly differences of opinion with Senor Hoof Hunter in the past, but He's right on the mark here!

    Most importantly, and I've seen it many times, your lack of Spanish ability will damper your results with las Colombianas immensley (non-pros).

    I don't care if you're a Brad Pitt, most GQ cat in the world, if you can't communicate and relate with these chicas, romance and charm them, make them laugh, you'll be a frustrated hombre.

    Learn as much spanish as you can before you go, practice with anybody who will let you.
    I'd recommend Cartagena for you, so you can mix it up with pros to keep you happy and non-pros as well.

    Sometimes a nice, sweet pro who you have good chemestry with can be a great time too. Again spanish skills really help there too.

    Good luck amigo! .... and read Hoof Hunter's post again :)

  13. #33

    One more question..

    I met this girl. A real hottie. Not a pinup or a modelo. (I am not that stupid, I hope)

    We are msn chatting. Her responses are slow. I ask her "What's the matter, why are you distracted?" She replies "Oh, I have alot on my mind, muchos gastos de la vida (Translation: I have so many bills to pay)."

    Alarm bells go off. "ding ding ding" I haven't even met her in person, yet, and she is already complaining how she has no money. IS she trying to set me up for a donation ?

    PLease advise. I really think this girl is hot.

  14. #32

    Gracias a Ricker y Hoof Hunter

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoof Hunter
    If she brings along a friend, she's feeling you out, but also playing you for a free ride at the same time.
    Gracias a Ricker y Hoof Hunter -

    You know, Hoof Hunter, I friggin HATE that when she brings along a friend "for safety." That happened to me all the time in Nicaragua. They were just aprobechadoras. This has TWO BAD EFFECTS: 1) I have to spend more money, 2) Two's company, three is a crowd. The other girl really hampers my ability to sweet talk my preferida.

    OK, I am going to put my foot down. Nada mas. Estoy harto de eso.

    Yes, I should stick to the prostibulos. However, I like more the real GF, than the casa putas. Of course, I pay MORE in thelong run for a GF.

    This online dating really has it's perils:

    1.) she posts one name a screen name, her real name is something else. On top of that she has two or three other nicknames. The two or three other nicknames bother me. IS this cultural or is this an engano ? Can someone advise me?

    2.) Then she contacts me with msn messenger using a freinds computer. So now I am totally confused. I need to know the name of the person who I am talking to.

    3.) To really make things worse. Her Tia, hermana or amiga is the first one who contacts me on msn, using her account. So I am TOTALLY confused for the first few minutes. Why are they doing this? Is this bait and switch ? Go for the hottie and get the senior citizen. Is Tia also trying to get me to date her too ?

    4.) she posts that she is from BQA, but in fact she lives in Bogota. I am not going to waste my time and visit you in Bogota. Only BQA.

    Thank you again for taking the time to answer my questions. I am new to online dating. MY abilities are further crippled by the cultural and language differences.

    Any advice you can give would be greatly appreciated.

    Water Boy

  15. #31

    Not sure why I'm answering this, but.....

    In your case, stick to the pros. Laguito Cartagena is your calling. Not being facetious, but broken Spanish leads to being dependent on others, which means you need to be 100% trusting of chicas, something not very recommended in Colombia. Colombia is a country where you GOTTA be a "man." Meaning YOU make the decisions, yes or no, and YOU call the shots. Anything less, you'll be fleeced, or just be wasting time. You need Spanish to make Colombia work best for you.

    To answer your questions:

    1. If you don't get the vibe on chat, get rid of her. Will be worse in person. In Colombia, hilariously, every chick is replaceable. EVERY chick, even Miss Colombia-types.

    2. Colombianas aren't prudes. You just don't know how to finesse them yet. They are very sexually inclined and BIG flirts. But if you don't know the culture and how to flirt with them in Spanish, not translated Spanish, it won't work. Your flirts, once translated, might seem crude. I've yet to encounter many Colombian prudes, quite the opposite. LOL!!!

    3. You don't pop that question. Would you pop that question in your own country? And what's the success with that? Pretty low, I'd imagine. It's all about finesse. More than likely, if she's feeling you, you'll score and quickly. If she's hesistant, she'll see how you handle yourself in person before making a decision. If she brings along a friend, she's feeling you out, but also playing you for a free ride at the same time. Get rid of that type of chick. On a night where she doesn't have to work the next day, ask her out by herself, romance her, take her dancing, and make your move at some point. If she shuts you down, get rid of her. If she responds favorably, don't rush it, but proceed along those lines. You got her.

    4. Yes, such can happen, but very rarely. I wouldn't worry about it. It takes a complete idiot to get caught up in that. Seriously, the lowest hanging fruit. Take an official taxi to your hotel. Have her meet you at your hotel when you decide. Establish having your feet on the ground before allowing someone to dictate your trip. If you're not comfortable with someone you've been chatting with for a while, what's the point in chatting with them?

    Not a brag, but just a point, I've nailed about 75-80% of the online chicks that I've met in person within 24 hours of meeting them. I'm no Brad Pitt, but I speak Spanish very well (learned and immerision) as well as enough Colombian colloquialisms to be able to tell jokes and relate their stories to my experiences. Goes a long way. I haven't been online in a couple years, still working off of the contacts that I met years ago, as well as personal introductions from Colombians.

    One last thing, in Colombia, ALWAYS have a plan B and plan C. Meaning, if your date is 30 minutes late, leave and initiate plan B and C. You're on vacation, your time is important. I tell every chick this that I deal with. A chick that doesn't respect that....... Again, goes back to the whole "you gotta be a man" deal in Colombia. You're the prize, not the girl. Scary, but true. Ask any gainfully-employed Colombian dude in Colombia. It's an interesting culture once you understand it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Water Boy
    Hi,

    I am new to the practice of Meeting Girls Online

    I am looking to go to Brranquilla and or CTG. mostly costena cities.

    I have no interest in going to Cali (I don't have the cojones)

    I have RTFF:

    I will use only amigos, cybercupido, latinamericancupid. I speak a crippled spanish.

    Goal: To meet a several Colombianas online. Go to the city. Bang at least a few of them on the first date. Being on a short 2 week trip. I don't have time to waste dating.

    Questions:

    1. How do you avoid time wasters ? Those who chat you up online all day long, use up your time, but have no intention of sleeping with you?

    2. Girls online are either pros or nuns. All I have run into so far are nuns. With a nun when I mention sex, even casually or jokingly, the girl hangs up the connection. These are the flirty kind of innocuous sexy comments you can get away with in the states. Why are these women prudes?

    3. When do you pop the question "So, like when I arrive there, would you like to spend the nite with me?"

    4. MOST IMPORTANT: Are there any kidnapping or robbery scams perpatrated by the online chicas? I feel squeamish letting a colombiana know which flight I am arriving on. How do I know I am not being set up for a kidnapping?

    Thank you

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