Identifying Transvestites

[Animby]

The safest option is to count the ribs.

Sorry, Tiger. Men and women have exactly the same number of ribs. I've heard of some surgeons removing a bottom rib to emphasize the waist (some women used to do that, too) but that's not too common.

Voice? Not a sure thing. SOme girls have low voices. Some have gravelly voices. Some lady-boys have beautiful voices. I have a good lady friend who says she is sometimes mistaken for a trannie because of her voice. I can promise you she is all lady.

Thighs? Well, maybe early on, but after a while of hormone treatments and learning to walk in lady shoes, probably not as good barometer.

Since women tend to have a wider pelvis (so they can deliver babies) and flat behinds, a narrow set of hips and a bubble butt might indicate a masculine history. But that is certainly not a sure thing, either!

I have to agree with previous statements: if you're not sure, ask. I doubt any real working girl will be so offended she sends you packing and a lady-boy will probably be flattered that you're not sure. A katoey will probably not lie to you. If she says she a lady and you're still not sure, ask a lady you are sure of. The girls know. Or, better yet, move on.

[Animby]

If somebody can't recognize a LB than he will most likely not recognize a operated from a natural pussy.

A well designed vagina will be pretty much indistinguishable (visually) from a natural one. I'm a physician (not a surgeon) and have seen a dozen or so. Those done 10 or 15 years ago tend to be fairly easy to identify externally while newer techniques (and I understand the good gender surgeons in BKK use all the newest procedures) will pass all but the most careful exam.

Internally, if you know what you're feeling for, you can usually tell but I hear the latest procedures are even approximating the internal anatomy.

Although not a sure give away (since a sleight-of-hand application is possible) is to look for lubrication. If "she's" dry as a bone even after your best foreplay then she probably a he.

Or my ex-wife.

[Member #2041]

By far the simplest method of detection is their aggressiveness. If you're walking down Sukhumvit in the late evening and a 'girl' immediately approaches you as you walk by ignoring 'her' and starts saying hello and even touches you with her hand, there's essentially a 100% certainty she's a katoey aka ladyboy without you otherwise having to even glance at her appearance or notice her odd not quite feminine voice.

Or as I like to say, if it sounds like a duck, it's a duck. I agree that the voice is a good clue. Another really good clue is the general muscle and bone structure of the pelvis and upper thighs. Guys and katoeys have different upper thighs than do ladies, and real ladies walk differently.

[Tiger 888]

Here's the safest advice :

If you ever have a slight doubt, move on and get someone else.

There are more than enough ladies in Thailand to worry over a single person's gender

I heard that a woman can open her elbow more than 180 degrees, whereas a man can't. Anyone to confirm or oppose? The safest option is to count the ribs.

[NicFrenchy]

Here's the safest advice :

If you ever have a slight doubt, move on and get someone else.

There are more than enough ladies in Thailand to worry over a single person's gender

[Kinda Nasty]

By far the simplest method of detection is their aggressiveness. If you're walking down Sukhumvit in the late evening and a 'girl' immediately approaches you as you walk by ignoring 'her' and starts saying hello and even touches you with her hand, there's essentially a 100% certainty she's a katoey aka ladyboy without you otherwise having to even glance at her appearance or notice her odd not quite feminine voice.

[Dodger Bulldog]

Second you must check the Adams apple, almost got duped once but caught that, lucky me

It is just an old wives' tail that females do not have Adam's apples.

An Adam's apple is simply one's larynx, or voice box. While typically thicker and thus more noticeable in most (not all) males, women have them also, of course.

You can find photos of many slender women and often see their Adam's apples, e.g., Julia Roberts, Cameron Diaz, Anne Coulter, Paris Hilton, etc.

If you turn down anyone who has a visible Adam's apple you will be passing by lots of attractive, slender, young females.

On the other hand, if you are willing to have sex with everyone whose Adam's apple does not show, you will make the mistake of screwing lots of fat old men.

DB

[Fish N Chips]

First if there taller then a normal TG you need to look further:

Second you must check the Adams apple, almost got duped once but caught that, lucky me:

Third check the wrist & ankle for a larger then normal TG size:

If you are still wondering and are confused after making two of the above three checks, RUN, run long, run hard, run fast!!! There are far to many HOT chicks out there to waist time mucking about with a question.

Stay Safe

I don't think so she is or she was a LB, I spend with her antire day. Look at the pictures.

[Admin]

Greetings Everyone,

The purpose of this thread is to collect everyone's advice and tips on how to identify transvestites so that in the future, whenever someone on the forum asks the eternal question "How can I tell if it's a transvestite?", we can simply refer them to this thread.

This way we can avoid discussing these details and listening to these nauseating stories over and over again.

Thanks,

Jackson

[Forever69]

Rather than checking id's I would suggset to simply ask the person before dragging them to your room. This way you have all the rights to put them out the door later without payment should it become neccessary. Just don't throw them out the window, it is considered impolite. While some of them really look very convincing from far away a general give away is that they dress in a way any (in)decent thai girl would not in public.

Here a little practise link:

http://hemaleorshemale.com/

Just talk to them, but be aware also that a lot of them are pickpockets.

And if you cannot tell the difference between one and the other what do you care anyway?

[Mr Enternational]

I was trolling through the Nana Entertainment Plaza looking for a companion for the evening. It was getting late and my standards were falling by the minute when I came upon a gorgeous little thing standing next to one of the open bars. She could have been a mix of Asian and Latina, dark hair and skin, nice sloping breasts and ass, a Latina face and a pair of librarian's glasses that completed her look totally...not sleazy but she could be if you made the animal come out you know? I caught her eye and smiled, she smiled back and motioned for me to join her, not being shy I wasted no time sliding up next to her. She scooted up closer to me and put her hand on my leg, this was it! I was taking her back to my room for sure! I said, "Hey, I like your glasses...very sexy" and she responded back in her best Barry White "impression" "Thank you, how are you doing tonight?" I jumped back and let out an involuntary curse! It was a dude! It laughed at this like it was the best joke ever...The best advice I could give for when you are duped on the street by one is to laugh it off and keep on looking for your next piece of tail.

As I have said before, maybe it is just my luck (because I don't look intimidating or anything), but anytime I am around Soi Nana and I find myself cozying up to a person who I think is a woman but really isn't, they have always had the courtesy to inform me immediately after the greeting. Afterwhich, in all politeness I may still hold a conversation with them. I agree with FNC's best advice about laughing it off. Keep in mind that they are people with feelings too and that everyone is out there for whatever is their personal pleasure; wheather it be BBJ, anal, katoey, or whatever.

Last time I was in BKK, I remember seeing an older gentleman in the lobby of the NaNa about 4am with two obvious katoeys. He was just as proud as could be. He had a look as if he had just won the lottery. Me and another guy who was sitting on the couches could not figure out if he had his beer goggles on or what. But I think it was just his thing and at that moment he didn't care who knew it.

One last piece of advice. If you still can't figure out the female from the pseudo-female, don't be afraid to grab a handful of crotch before going back to your room. The females will understand.

[DG69]

Once again this topic and I hope this time the users of this Forum don’t misunderstand me like last time. I have some experiences with the women around Soi Nana but last trip I had a bad experience and only in the room I realize my wrong choose: I chose a Katoy!!!.

Therefore, again my question: could the ID help to identify these people? Or can they make copies or fake ID too? Please advice the best way to recognize them in order to avoid my last very bad experience. And I mean not the body details because with the excellent hospital there in Bangkok they can make miracles in the bodies of these people, but what about the official documents?

I don't understand why some people can't recognize a LB by look. I don't find it difficult to recognize a LB. Not only by look, also from behaviour and body language. I admit that once when I was first or second time in Thailand when I was in Phuket I went with a LB to her Appartment. I knew that she is a LB, but she was so sexy that I disavow this.
So, I went to her appartment. In that time in Phuket (15 years ago) it was also a signe that she is not a usual girl. Because girls don't took customer to their appartments. Well, at the end I wasn't able to have sex with the LB. The imagination that she was before a he was just to daunting for me.

[Fish N Chips]

We go to Thailand; we're just looking for some honest entertainment and fun. Right? Unfortunately the entertainment is not always as honest as it should be...therefore you must always be on your guard against these "creatures of the night". As much as it hurts the male ego to say this some of them are quite beautiful and have more sex appeal than Brooke Burke oil wrestling a midget. There doesn't seem to be any certain areas that they congregate in, they mix right in with the real woman and are maybe more aggressive in locking you in with their charms. I spent a considerable amount of my time in the Nana Plaza area drinking and relaxing at the Golden Bar located on the "stoop" of the Nana Hotel. While we sat at our tables overlooking the street women would parade themselves in front of us vying for our attention. One in particular caught my eye...she had perfect lifted breasts, a thick waist with a nice bubble ass, streaked blonde hair, a beautiful face and she was wearing a short red dress and open high heels that looked more appropriate for a night of salsa dancing in Cuba. We made eye contact and I probably winked at her or some shit, either way the chick that I was hanging out with smacked my leg (not from jealousy) and asked what I was doing. I said that I wanted to talk to the hottie coming my way...that's when the girl I was with broke my heart and told me that it was really a man! At first I thought she was telling stories but as I watched, really watched, this woman approach I noticed the face was a little too angular, the stride a little too purposeful and "she" was bigger than most of the girls out there. I pulled a face and made some kind of rude gesture towards the imposter, he knew the jig was up but still batted his eyelashes at me and giggled as he strolled past looking for his next customer/victim. That was my first loathsome interaction with the famed lady-boys but not my last! Another time I was trolling through the Nana Entertainment Plaza looking for a companion for the evening. It was getting late and my standards were falling by the minute when I came upon a gorgeous little thing standing next to one of the open bars. She could have been a mix of Asian and Latina, dark hair and skin, nice sloping breasts and ass, a Latina face and a pair of librarian's glasses that completed her look totally...not sleazy but she could be if you made the animal come out you know? I caught her eye and smiled, she smiled back and motioned for me to join her, not being shy I wasted no time sliding up next to her. She scooted up closer to me and put her hand on my leg, this was it! I was taking her back to my room for sure! I said, "Hey, I like your glasses...very sexy" and she responded back in her best Barry White "impression" "Thank you, how are you doing tonight?" I jumped back and let out an involuntary curse! It was a dude! It laughed at this like it was the best joke ever...needless to say I didn't think it was too funny and I continued on my search. The problem with these imposters is that it is extremely difficult to tell if they are really women. I was saved from the second one because of the voice but that is the only thing that will help you catch on. Plastic surgery and sex changes are very affordable in Thailand (Bumrungrad Hospital is right down the street from Nana Plaza). These "guys" really feel they are women trapped in a man's body so they go and get their Jacobs cut off and have a hole manufactured instead. They take the estrogen and grow tits and do the makeup and hair and practice being a female until you can hardly tell them apart! Needless to say these people are extremely messed up in the head and I have heard stories of them chasing men down the street with knives because the man insulted their claim of "femininity"! The best advice I could give for when you are duped on the street by one is to laugh it off and keep on looking for your next piece of tail. If you find out after you got it on with one...well just go ahead and slit your wrists after you toss it out the hotel window! For now this is your partner Joe saying wrap it up and keep on the lookout!

Once again this topic and I hope this time the users of this Forum don’t misunderstand me like last time. I have some experiences with the women around Soi Nana but last trip I had a bad experience and only in the room I realize my wrong choose: I chose a Katoy!!!.

Therefore, again my question: could the ID help to identify these people? Or can they make copies or fake ID too? Please advice the best way to recognize them in order to avoid my last very bad experience. And I mean not the body details because with the excellent hospital there in Bangkok they can make miracles in the bodies of these people, but what about the official documents?

[Sponsor74]

To operate a pussy on a ladyboy is standard. If somebody can't recognize a LB than he will most likely not recognize a operated from a natural pussy.

Once again this topic and I hope this time the users of this Forum don’t misunderstand me like last time. I have some experiences with the women around Soi Nana but last trip I had a bad experience and only in the room I realize my wrong choose: I chose a Katoy!!!.

Therefore, again my question: could the ID help to identify these people? Or can they make copies or fake ID too? Please advice the best way to recognize them in order to avoid my last very bad experience. And I mean not the body details because with the excellent hospital there in Bangkok they can make miracles in the bodies of these people, but what about the official documents?

[DG69]

if she was a ladyboy then the surgeon did an amazing work on her pussy because it was on the menu as well and was visited before the anal.

To operate a pussy on a ladyboy is standard. If somebody can't recognize a LB than he will most likely not recognize a operated from a natural pussy.