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  1. #1053
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    It's a sad situation but bar girls usually start selling sex young. By the time the work in Tijuana bars, most would already have years if not decades experiences in how to hook guys and squeeze maximum money out of them, while doing the least amount of work, in the shortest time, with minimum feelings.

    That beautiful girl Sasha and her sister Ginger were in an orphanage. She was repeatedly raped. She's cunning and knows how much and how fast she can extract out of guys.

    Tesla is a skinny, beautiful light skin girl from Sonora, very popular in HK. Before CoVid she would be picked up for the hotel nonstop and made about $500 every night she worked in HK. Her dad is an American guy, mom Mexican. They know she sells sex since young, just accept it, even help her and benefit from it.

    Another bro was infatuated with, even considering marrying, a skinny fake blonde from LOS Mochis, Sinaloa. He flew down to visit her a couple times when El Chapo was hiding there. She was withholding sex and fighting hard when he visited her in LOS Mochis and on a Cancun vacation to ruthlessly squeeze more money out of him, after lavish gifts and trip expenses. To spite him she finally told him about her sexual relationships starting young with rich guys from the US, then cut him off.

    Bar girls are the same cold. Greedy, heartless beasts all over the world, Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore Phil. They have to eat and survive in their jungles. Foreigners are just juicy preys. Yhey always have deeper love for their BFs, children, families ect which motivate them to rob the bros. The bros should watch this British guy Thailand Bound on Youtube, how seasoned guys were blinded in the love and sex games with Thai women and get totally ripped like innocent lambs among hungry wolves.

    Some bros should do the same Youtube stories with Mexican women, probably lots of funny and interesting stories.
    Wow super depressing stories. Thanks for sharing your perspective. I've met a few wonderful bar girls throughout the world, but I think I violate the 3 day rule repeatedly as regulars that you connect with emotionally and physically just do it for me. Starfish me the first session and definitely not repeating. Offer me amazing out of this world sex the first time, then I'm sure to return. The one I've been meeting on regular trips to Rosarito, Ensenada, Cancun, and future trip to Paris has been amazing to me. She is more intense than the Thai bar girl I took on a trip to Cambodia. Every time they invite me to their homes, cook or do my laundry, and genuinely share their stories. It seems you must have gotten close to a few to know their personal stories. If I ever met Sasha and Ginger, then I'd just give them a large tip with no strings attached. "We are reminded how short life really is, and how we are just passing through. So, all the people you haven't told you love lately, tell them, and live your days like you mean it. " Hal Sutton.

  2. #1052
    Quote Originally Posted by Sol12  [View Original Post]
    Now that had to be an interesting conversation. So you mentioned in a different post about meeting the aunt in the US for something and I wondered if she came to your house? I only wondered if the aunt was trying to see if you are really single and not married. I think that's the most common thing that the girls don't believe since they can't visit. Not sure exactly what she wants you to do or who she needs to meet. You've only known her for a short amount of time and just recently have been spending more time with her. Besides she is using you more as a cover for how she makes money so it is in her best interest to introduce you to the family.

    Well if she is back home she definitely doesn't want you going to HK because she doesn't want to risk you finding a new girl and moving on from her. It is interesting that you are helping her so in my eyes you should be free to do as you wish but if she doesn't accept that you just have to decide if she makes you happy and you don't need anyone else you just have to stay away from Tijuana until she comes back. My ex was a pretty laid back person we never got in arguments or anything but I remember one time the boys were going to the Zona and I told her I was going to hang with them for a few beers. Man if hers eyes could've killed me they would have. So when I saw how much it upset her I didn't want to hurt her so didn't go.

    HK and the Zona are only a bad place if you can't resist temptation. The problem is the girls all think we will f anyone we see so they say it's bad except that's where they work which I find very funny.
    Well I haven't met the aunt in the USA Yet. She was supposed to be allowed to attend a conference for a short time so I brought luggage for her "extended" stay. Not sure when they are going to provide an address as it is sitting at my house, also checked it before crossing the border at the regulars apartment as I told her that I trust her, but not family members. Also she wanted me to meet family since apparently everyone of her family members "know" about me and that is the only thing she can offer to show that I'm important in her life, as she can't financially do anything for me.

    When I thought we were in a "fake" relationship, then I was seeing my regulars at all of the clubs and then found out how upset she got when I told her the truth. It actually kind of hurt as she was my favorite of the bunch. Also she is the only one that has stopped working and actually going to school to better her standing in life. I didn't just get the look of death, but told I'm just like every other man. Also took about half a day for her to get over it as went out with her friends on revolution to drink and might go with them on a trip to Chihuahua to ride that train through Copper Canyon. She already knows I don't have self control as she is jealous as I have time and money to be with anyone. I told her I am equally jealous as she is so hot and attracts bros everywhere we go. She acts like she isn't aware all of these guys are staring at her, but maybe she is telling the truth. I notice young and old guys just breaking their neck just to stare at her since she is taller with a coke bottle shaped figure. I think jealousy will kill the relationship so have to keep my insecurities in check.

  3. #1051

    How we treat them

    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedToys  [View Original Post]
    Ya know, maybe it's you, because there -are- some, but they ALL are not. Don't take that wrong. But. Ya. There's some scammers out there, but we don't HAVE to aim for those, and we don't HAVE to treat the nice ones at the border of disrespectful because that's what you assume they are. Etc.

    Somewhere there's a girl that's run into a string of "Captain Solos". And she's online posting right now how all Johns are assholes.

    It is what you make of it was said in this thread. And I think that's 90% of the outcome that someone is actively looking for.

    We make our choices on how we treat people, and what we want out of them. If it date goes south, move on, don't project that onto the next one.
    I agree with you as a general rule but the rule doesn't apply here. These are putas and we are sex mongers.

    The dynamics are pretty straight forward.

  4. #1050

    Agree

    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedToys  [View Original Post]
    Ya know, maybe it's you, because there -are- some, but they ALL are not. Don't take that wrong. But. Ya. There's some scammers out there, but we don't HAVE to aim for those, and we don't HAVE to treat the nice ones at the border of disrespectful because that's what you assume they are. Etc.

    Somewhere there's a girl that's run into a string of "Captain Solos". And she's online posting right now how all Johns are assholes.

    It is what you make of it was said in this thread. And I think that's 90% of the outcome that someone is actively looking for.

    We make our choices on how we treat people, and what we want out of them. If it date goes south, move on, don't project that onto the next one.
    Well said SP.

    The sad thing with CS is all his stories are what others have told him. To me he runs his life by what he sees happen to others and he thinks the same will happen to him. I don't know if he doesn't have the confidence in himself that he can find a girl that really loves him it's sad to think he will never enjoy the joy of a family. In this day and age unfortunately most relationships don't work weather your married 10 or 40 years. Yet if you were able to have children and enjoy those moments is very special. Yeah it didn't end like you wanted but when your 70 who will be there for you if you don't have a family. Now lots of guys may not want that but I think they just see the hard work that is involved sometimes but not the joyful times.

  5. #1049
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Bar girls are the same cold. Greedy, heartless beasts all over the world
    Ya know, maybe it's you, because there -are- some, but they ALL are not. Don't take that wrong. But. Ya. There's some scammers out there, but we don't HAVE to aim for those, and we don't HAVE to treat the nice ones at the border of disrespectful because that's what you assume they are. Etc.

    Somewhere there's a girl that's run into a string of "Captain Solos". And she's online posting right now how all Johns are assholes.

    It is what you make of it was said in this thread. And I think that's 90% of the outcome that someone is actively looking for.

    We make our choices on how we treat people, and what we want out of them. If it date goes south, move on, don't project that onto the next one.

  6. #1048

    Jaded

    Quote Originally Posted by Dcrist0527  [View Original Post]
    I've read this thread regarding putas lie, no Pretty Woman ending, etc. And everyone's experience is enlightening. I would add one point. It is what you make of it.

    A relationship is absolutely possible. I speak from experience. But I think you must consider how or where you fish. I would say there are at least a small percentage of chicas that are good-hearted. This is by no means a criticism, but most guys on here look at the chicas as a business transaction. Nothing wrong with that. 99% of the time, she sees you the same way. But that's how you fish. If that's the interaction, I would agree. No chance of a relationship.

    I play the game very differently. Most guys on here will tell me I'm wasting time and money and I understand why. But I value a night of drinking, laughing, partying and talking with a chica as much as anything. And when I find the right girl, life is good. I've had two very serious, honest, long term relationships develop in this manner. It's not easy. There is a lot of suspicion and doubt to overcome on both sides. But if I approached these girls as a business transaction, it would never develop.
    I think most that speak negative on these girls have been hurt and are jaded and feel like they are victims. To me the girls only take what you are willing to give and they assume your just going to give that money to someone else so why not them. What you said about the fishing part is perfect and if that's the place your trying to find a relationship the chances are it won't work out. In general most relationships don't work out to begin with but the Zona just multiplies that e en more. For one you can't be serious with someone you don't live with or at least are able to go freely between each other's home. So if they know you can't see what they are doing and they don't know what you are doing it's hard. I look at how many women married to guys in the military cheat on them because they aren't around.

    Well if she invites you to GDL you better go. It's a very nice city and you might think of relocating. LOL.

  7. #1047

    Relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by KoolBeans  [View Original Post]
    Hmmm makes me think. I was invited to a chica's home, met her cousins, met her aunt, met her "civvy" friends, and invited to her hometown to meet family. I questioned the "relationship" and she pointed out all of these facts and said she knows very little about me. She is in final year of university and I see her dialing into Microsoft teams for attendance when I'm around. I was actually going to go to the Halloween party at HK, but when I mentioned it, she said I'm just like every other man. I found it odd since she used to work at the club. She said it is a bad place and not a "normal" club and she wouldn't mind if I went to a regular club. She is back home in Sinaloa and should be back next week. Her cousin talked about places he has traveled and said the Puerto Vallarta hotel he stayed at was full of prostitutes and I thought if he only knew.
    Now that had to be an interesting conversation. So you mentioned in a different post about meeting the aunt in the US for something and I wondered if she came to your house? I only wondered if the aunt was trying to see if you are really single and not married. I think that's the most common thing that the girls don't believe since they can't visit. Not sure exactly what she wants you to do or who she needs to meet. You've only known her for a short amount of time and just recently have been spending more time with her. Besides she is using you more as a cover for how she makes money so it is in her best interest to introduce you to the family.

    Well if she is back home she definitely doesn't want you going to HK because she doesn't want to risk you finding a new girl and moving on from her. It is interesting that you are helping her so in my eyes you should be free to do as you wish but if she doesn't accept that you just have to decide if she makes you happy and you don't need anyone else you just have to stay away from Tijuana until she comes back. My ex was a pretty laid back person we never got in arguments or anything but I remember one time the boys were going to the Zona and I told her I was going to hang with them for a few beers. Man if hers eyes could've killed me they would have. So when I saw how much it upset her I didn't want to hurt her so didn't go.

    HK and the Zona are only a bad place if you can't resist temptation. The problem is the girls all think we will f anyone we see so they say it's bad except that's where they work which I find very funny.

  8. #1046

    My two cents

    I've read this thread regarding putas lie, no Pretty Woman ending, etc. And everyone's experience is enlightening. I would add one point. It is what you make of it.

    A relationship is absolutely possible. I speak from experience. But I think you must consider how or where you fish. I would say there are at least a small percentage of chicas that are good-hearted. This is by no means a criticism, but most guys on here look at the chicas as a business transaction. Nothing wrong with that. 99% of the time, she sees you the same way. But that's how you fish. If that's the interaction, I would agree. No chance of a relationship.

    I play the game very differently. Most guys on here will tell me I'm wasting time and money and I understand why. But I value a night of drinking, laughing, partying and talking with a chica as much as anything. And when I find the right girl, life is good. I've had two very serious, honest, long term relationships develop in this manner. It's not easy. There is a lot of suspicion and doubt to overcome on both sides. But if I approached these girls as a business transaction, it would never develop.

    As I said, most guys have no interest in a relationship. And more power to them. We all have different desires and pursuits. But I would strongly recommend that we appreciate the phrase ymmv. Saying that every puta lies, always. Or that a relationship could never work. There's part of that mindset that scares me. We are painting ourselves into a small corner.

    Related note and full disclosure. I may have found the next GF. I've spent the better part of the last 3 nights with a girl from GDL. She hasn't been here a week. This girl is a solid 9. My first impression was that she was cold. As we talked, the cold melted. She's a very smart girl. I'm not sure where this will go. I'm lucky that I can travel fairly easily. And when things developed with the other two, I was able to relocate. GDL is another complication. (She is returning home within 2 weeks).

    I only mention her because, though I was not searching for a relationship, I think my method makes it more likely.

    Maybe it would be easier to always keep it as a business transaction. But, in my opinion, I'm not sold that is the healthiest approach.

  9. #1045

    Lol

    It's a sad situation but bar girls usually start selling sex young. By the time the work in Tijuana bars, most would already have years if not decades experiences in how to hook guys and squeeze maximum money out of them, while doing the least amount of work, in the shortest time, with minimum feelings.

    That beautiful girl Sasha and her sister Ginger were in an orphanage. She was repeatedly raped. She's cunning and knows how much and how fast she can extract out of guys.

    Tesla is a skinny, beautiful light skin girl from Sonora, very popular in HK. Before CoVid she would be picked up for the hotel nonstop and made about $500 every night she worked in HK. Her dad is an American guy, mom Mexican. They know she sells sex since young, just accept it, even help her and benefit from it.

    Another bro was infatuated with, even considering marrying, a skinny fake blonde from LOS Mochis, Sinaloa. He flew down to visit her a couple times when El Chapo was hiding there. She was withholding sex and fighting hard when he visited her in LOS Mochis and on a Cancun vacation to ruthlessly squeeze more money out of him, after lavish gifts and trip expenses. To spite him she finally told him about her sexual relationships starting young with rich guys from the US, then cut him off.

    Bar girls are the same cold. Greedy, heartless beasts all over the world, Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore Phil. They have to eat and survive in their jungles. Foreigners are just juicy preys. Yhey always have deeper love for their BFs, children, families ect which motivate them to rob the bros. The bros should watch this British guy Thailand Bound on Youtube, how seasoned guys were blinded in the love and sex games with Thai women and get totally ripped like innocent lambs among hungry wolves.

    Some bros should do the same Youtube stories with Mexican women, probably lots of funny and interesting stories.

  10. #1044

    Diamond in the Rough

    Quote Originally Posted by KoolBeans  [View Original Post]
    Hmmm makes me think. I was invited to a chica's home, met her cousins, met her aunt, met her "civvy" friends, and invited to her hometown to meet family. I questioned the "relationship" and she pointed out all of these facts and said she knows very little about me. She is in final year of university and I see her dialing into Microsoft teams for attendance when I'm around. I was actually going to go to the Halloween party at HK, but when I mentioned it, she said I'm just like every other man. I found it odd since she used to work at the club. She said it is a bad place and not a "normal" club and she wouldn't mind if I went to a regular club. She is back home in Sinaloa and should be back next week. Her cousin talked about places he has traveled and said the Puerto Vallarta hotel he stayed at was full of prostitutes and I thought if he only knew.
    Koolbeans, maybe you got lucky, but most of them putas are disgusting sharks that would like nothing more then to run you thru for every penny. The new ones are the best bet for any kind of relationship. Once they been working for a while they start to learn the "way of the puta" and they change but never for the better. In my years of going to the zona I have only seen a "pretty woman" ending one time with my friend Luna. But she was new and some rich Israeli guy stole her away and married her. Most of them have boyfriends, husbands, girlfriends, or a fucking low life pimp. I can count on one hand the number of really good girls I have met in the zona, most are hardened manipulators only out to milk you for as much money as they can get, while going home to their real "amor". The ones who can't handle the puta life leave the zona quick and never come back, the ones that stay learn to live with the lifestyle cultivating a lot of "amigos" while padding their bank accounts with large sums of suckers money.

  11. #1043

    Lol

    Quote Originally Posted by SeaBeeJoe  [View Original Post]
    My boy you understand it now, I am happy to see you are getting what it is all about. The Puta's mostly are full of shit, just use them for your pleasure. I fell into that trap too many times and still the lure of sex drives me on. I will be honest I am not as "horny" as I was in my twenties thank god for that. Women can be a lot of fucking trouble, if you let them.
    You are so right!

    Even with all of the warnings from the vets on this board, I still fell into the trap.

    The power of p at $$why is strong. I guess I had to learn the hard (and expensive way).

    I'm sure many others will so the same. That's how these girls live the life are they do.

    I'm just glad learned as quickly as I was able to afford to. I can see how some guys could easily go broke over the puta spell.

    Thanks to guys like you and Cap, I only lost a couple days of billable hours.

  12. #1042

    Graduation

    Quote Originally Posted by NeverOnce  [View Original Post]
    As far as the scamming HK girls, the hottest ones are the best at this. Come to find out they are rolling in the dough.

    After learning my lesson, I keep it 100% transactional. I'm not paying for the sex, I'm paying her to leave with no strings attached after.
    My boy you understand it now, I am happy to see you are getting what it is all about. The Puta's mostly are full of shit, just use them for your pleasure. I fell into that trap too many times and still the lure of sex drives me on. I will be honest I am not as "horny" as I was in my twenties thank god for that. Women can be a lot of fucking trouble, if you let them.

  13. #1041
    Quote Originally Posted by KoolBeans  [View Original Post]
    I was actually going to go to the Halloween party at HK, but when I mentioned it, she said I'm just like every other man. I found it odd since she used to work at the club. She said it is a bad place and not a "normal" club and she wouldn't mind if I went to a regular club.
    My opinion, speaking from experience, she is somewhat looking out for you. I dated a girl that used to work there. I learned a lot from her. She would tell stories of how the girls "abuse" the men. Some of it is really messed up. Now, is there some amount of jealousy? No doubt. But some of the stories are insane.

  14. #1040
    Quote Originally Posted by NeverOnce  [View Original Post]
    I completely agree. And it's happened to me more than once. Girl gives you the sob story about having to sell her body to survive, hits you up for moneygrams, claiming there's an emergency or he needs some essential thing. Then it turns into her claiming to love you and needs you to giver her an allowance so she doesn't have to work at HK anymore. While the truth is she never stopped working at HK, had multiple men sending her money and has zero intention of stopping because she is making money hand over fist, driving expensive cars, nice house, and designer clothes.

    They play on the American stereotype that all Mexicans are poor and live in adobe shacks, desperate for an Americans to help.

    It's far from the truth but makes us mongers an easy target. They all play on this to boost our egos and to this to loosen our pockets. Most of us fall for it until we learn our lesson.

    We feel bad for them because in the US sex is so taboo and prostitution is illegal for the most part. As a society we look down on strippers and prostitutes. It's completely different in the Mexican culture (and most of the world), sex isn't taboo and prostitution isn't viewed with the same stigma. Sure, it's not what they grow up aspiring to do but if there isn't much opportunity for them because of a lack of education or situational set back, working as a puta at HK is a very appealing and socially accepted way to make good money. That's why girls fly in literally from all over the country to work there. It's a way different story for the street girls. The streets are ran 100% by the mafiosos.

    Those girls are either forced against their will or complying out of of pure desperation. That's why most are very strict with their boundaries and fixed prices.

    As far as the scamming HK girls, the hottest ones are the best at this. Come to find out they are rolling in the dough.

    After learning my lesson, I keep it 100% transactional. I'm not paying for the sex, I'm paying her to leave with no strings attached after.
    Hmmm makes me think. I was invited to a chica's home, met her cousins, met her aunt, met her "civvy" friends, and invited to her hometown to meet family. I questioned the "relationship" and she pointed out all of these facts and said she knows very little about me. She is in final year of university and I see her dialing into Microsoft teams for attendance when I'm around. I was actually going to go to the Halloween party at HK, but when I mentioned it, she said I'm just like every other man. I found it odd since she used to work at the club. She said it is a bad place and not a "normal" club and she wouldn't mind if I went to a regular club. She is back home in Sinaloa and should be back next week. Her cousin talked about places he has traveled and said the Puerto Vallarta hotel he stayed at was full of prostitutes and I thought if he only knew.

  15. #1039
    Quote Originally Posted by Dcrist0527  [View Original Post]
    While spending most of the night in HK, I wanted to get some air and walked over to Tropical. Sometimes, just sitting upstairs in the Tiki room is a nice break. I was sitting there, just minding my own busiess. 95% of the people were downstairs. (Again, I would say the chica to guy ratio was 5 to 1.) All of a sudden, Marianna comes up to me an practically assaults me with her tongue. LOL.

    We were kissing, dancing, grinding for five minutes before we said the first word to each other. Marianna is relatively tall, light brown hair. I wouldn't call her a spinner but no real body fat. She's from Sonora. I would rate her a 7. That might be too low. She has piercing, beautiful eyes. She is a sexual tiger. The girl will fuck the shit out of you. We practically fucked right there in the tiki room. A mesero came over to slow things down. LOL.

    Personality and talent, she's well above a 7. Would I recommend? If you like very aggressive chicas that really enjoy it, yes. I know that sounds like a ringing endorsement. But her aggressiveness is almost over the top.
    Halfway through your post, you had my curiosity but by the end when you talk about over the top aggressiveness, you have my attention. Good intel. Thanks.

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