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10-30-21 23:07 #1098
Posts: 55Timing is everything
Originally Posted by Hadez [View Original Post]
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10-30-21 13:01 #1097
Posts: 444Relationships with sex workers in general
I realize there are exceptions to every concept but I think people wanting a relationship with a sex worker should think hard about what they are expecting.
First consider what you actually want from the sex worker. I am not talking about listing a bunch of things to the public to be viewed on by the public and public judgment. Sit down and make a private list to yourself about what you expect. What is mandatory and what is something you can be flexible about.
Then make a list of what you are willing to offer. What is your limitations.
Ok start there.
Now consider this. Any sex worker relationship will probably start with the exchange of money. This means it is a business relationship. Now unless the girl is rich and doing this for fun she will always be needing money and will always look at you as a source of revenue. There are implications to this and what it means and it can vary from relationship to relationship. Now compare the concepts of this business relationship with the above list of expectations.
I have had a lot of fun short term relationships with sex workers. The problems have always come when I expected it to be something more than a short term relationship. Now all these have been USA sex workers. While Zona girls are definitely different in some ways they also need money and will also always see the guy as a source of revenue.
While I would like to add more of my knowledge like I said early my experience is with USA sex workers. There is definitely something different about Zona girls. I started the process of long distance relationships with some of the girls but nothing has gotten too much further than repeat customers with good service. If I lived in San Diego maybe I would have more data to add. Not sure if that matters because I can tell you in the USA Sex Worker concept having job is a obstacle to having a personal relationship with a USA sex worker. It helps further the business relationship though.
My current opinion in general on personal medium or long term relationships with girls under 30 is very difficult no matter what they do. Add in sex worker and the guy is a source of revenue and it becomes more complicated. There are actually girls in HK who I follow on facebook and I can tell you they know they are difficult to their relationship partners LOL.
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10-28-21 19:41 #1096
Posts: 1069Originally Posted by RikyMichaels7 [View Original Post]
And Dcups yes I do remember meeting you. Any questions hit me up in a pm. Just not sure what I have learned in Tijuana will apply to other parts of the world.
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10-28-21 19:22 #1095
Posts: 644Originally Posted by DCups [View Original Post]
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10-28-21 13:00 #1094
Posts: 3057Originally Posted by BaxterSlade [View Original Post]
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10-28-21 03:45 #1093
Posts: 227Add On to Previous Post
Another point that I want to make regarding relationships with bar girls is the following:
It is extremely difficult for bar girls to find jobs in Tijuana that enable them to earn a living. This is especially true with those that have no "preppa" or the equivalent of a high school diploma. This is why there are so many beautiful women working in the bars as they can actually survive on the bar money, even fichas alone. There options are few, including working in a factory, being hair stylists, working in a restaurant, etc. These jobs pay very little. To the tune of may 60-75 dollars a week. Most of these women are the victims of an ex-boyfriend or husband who has cheated on them and left them with kids. One of the girls I had a relationship with got a nursing degree and couldn't make more than a hundred dollars a week (some will challenge me on this but I know for a fact). Therefore, when you do get into a relationship, unless you are ok with the girl staying and working in the bars (where their best choice for making any decent cash lies), you are going to end up forking over substantial amounts of money for food, rent, clothes, sicknesses, etc. And, of course if they have kids, you can count on expenses for school, uniforms, etc. Etc. If you have the money to keep the girl out of the bar then that is a plus. I am not rich, but I have made a good income. The girls I had relationships with didn't want to work in the bars and I didn't want them to either. Therefore, I ended up paying for everything. So, the question you have to ask yourself, is. Is it worth it? And, frankly, I got tired of forking over the dough because there was always something that required more money. Always.
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10-27-21 19:49 #1092
Posts: 227Originally Posted by BaxterSlade [View Original Post]
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10-27-21 17:50 #1091
Posts: 1069Originally Posted by RikyMichaels7 [View Original Post]
Here is some info I have learned over the years. It doesn't take long to figure out if its ONLY about the money, that pretty much summed up the short term relationships. First thing I learned is work slowly, if you meet someone you are attracted to and take them up right away as soon as you become a client that right there pretty much wipes out any chance of a real relationship. You guys might be happy to learn the next thing I learned. Is it important to be guapo (handsome) , hell no I'm old ugly and balding. In the 3 long term relationships I have had the most important thing that has made me good relationship material is being accepted by their families. So far in most cases I hear the same thing, the kids never like who mom is dating and for some reason they like me. Only thing I can think of is I do resemble a clown Jajajaja. But being accepted by the kids does seem to outweigh money and looks. And it is rare to find a bar chica without kids.
So these bg relationships have been the best years of my life seeing Tijuana outside the zona norte has been exciting and fun. I have done it all been to all kinds of fiestas. One advantage is when going to a wedding or similar event you will end up assigned to the table with her bg friends also known as the hooker table.
The first 2 relationships involved girls who had been in the bar life for years but were ready for an exit strategy. They made relationships a little harder to accept. I can never forget the time waking up in bed with my new GF after a great night together she gets a phone call and explains she has to go fuck someone but she will be back in a couple hours. Ok so we can agree these type of relationships are far from normal.
On a side note the current GF was never really a hooker I met her on her first and last night working in a bar. She has been a real sweetheart most of the time. Only drawback of not being a seasoned sex worker is she can't give a decent BJ. I'm pretty sure she doesn't have the dreaded real BF, she is always available and I do have a key to the casa. But I have noticed she does post a lot of sexy pictures on social media and seems to do a lot of facebook flirting. I recently got in her phone and discovered at least one guy sending her money via western union. When confronted she says don't worry she blames some amiga she met on fb who was teaching her how to pick up some extra money. So I quizzed her, so what do you tell these guys? How handsome they are and you love them. She says of course not you tell them how sad you are because your mom is dying and she can't afford the surgery to save her life. Jajaja where have I heard that one before.
As far as these relationships go the one thing I learned from a member of this forum that has proved to be the most important is. The one who cares the most has the most to lose.
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10-27-21 16:25 #1090
Posts: 1933Originally Posted by BigMagick [View Original Post]
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10-27-21 08:22 #1089
Posts: 644[Deleted by Admin]
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10-27-21 07:24 #1088
Posts: 6523Why so serious?
Agree with NeverOnce.
I am in this forum to exchange info to get better sexepriences, also to share good things with the bros and have fun with them. I have no need to prove anything to anyone. So far I have lots of fun with quite a few bros in the forum or on site in many mongering locations. Some bros have shown me the sexiest and funniest times in other countries.
I would leave others to pursue their preferences. Only when they are near the point of going in harm ways, then I would let them know in the gentlest ways.
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10-27-21 05:38 #1087
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10-27-21 03:06 #1086
Posts: 55Why be a jerk
Originally Posted by CaptainSolo [View Original Post]
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10-27-21 02:50 #1085
Posts: 3234Originally Posted by Dcrist0527 [View Original Post]
Thing is when you get in these discussions it is always one or the other. She is totally into you or totally into your money. The reality is that it is a sliding scale. Yes, pros are 100% about the money but is any woman really 100% into the guy? It is not 1% about money or how the guy makes her look good? I do not know if I buy that 0% is possible with any woman.
So if you accept my premise, I would like to ask you something about Mexican versus American strippers. What I found is that just having plain ho sex (100% transactional) was not that satisfying, so I went the sugar baby route. It varied based on the relationship but what I would say is a pro was 100% money, a sugar baby was closer to 40 to 60% about money, and a GF / wife would ideally be 25% or less. And the SB sex or GF sex was usually light years better than ho sex.
With American strippers, if I went below 90% pay for play, I would get burned. What I mean is that if you had anything other than a casual acquaintance level relationship, you would be taken advantage of. If you gave a stripper a million dollars, she would not appreciate it but think "Yeah, I am so hot. I deserve it. " or "Shit, I should have gotten $2 million out of him. " As long as I was firm on the amount I gave her, things were fine.
In general then, I gave up trying to make strippers into SBs, but once I accepted how they were, they were great. I had some amazing sex, and the sex, because there was even that small percentage of intimacy, was much better than with hos.
I had to stick to seeking.com/ SA to get sugar babies in the USA. Seeking.com or SA is different when I went abroad, and I had several chances to make women into GFs and twice I felt comfortable enough to do that.
I did meet a former stripper in Monterrey who was on seeking / SA. She was different in that she did not have her hand out after sex was over and expect payment like a ho. I helped her out and took her on trips and had a great time with her but she was not IMO GF material. SB material for sure but not GF material.
To me, in the USA, there is like this stripper code that is kind of fucked up. It's like "I may grind on a guy's dick topless for money, but I do not fuck or suck dick for it. " As long as you can help the stripper hide the fact that she is not breaking that code, she can be down to play.
So my question is this: Because the Mexican strippers are all fucking and sucking anyway, have you been able to get over that 90% hump? Do you think that is possible? What do you think is the percentage you can get to with a Mexican stripper? IMO and from what I saw the Mexican stripper was not as jaded because being a pro is legal in Mexico and not in the USA.
I am seeing an amazing Colombian woman now and it does not matter to me now, but I did meet a 20 year old from Puerto Vallarta in Tijuana who had only been working in the club a week. We had chemistry and she had an orgasm when we had sex. She was open to the idea of showing me around PV and hooking up with me if I went and saw her. Even though I did not have time to follow up, I felt like with her, she was potential SB material and I could have gotten over that 90% hump with her.
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10-27-21 02:26 #1084
Posts: 120You can take the puta out of the bar but not the bar out of the puta
A working girl is always going to think like one. Same way a doctor thinks like a doctor outside of work too. I know this is all fantasy and pay for play but maybe dating is the wrong word. Its more of just a friendship I would have with working girls. I rather hang out with the dregs of society like putas, drug users and mongers they are more real then the upper class. I have briefly rubbed shoulders with the upper class in America and they are miserable, sad, evil folks. So maybe y'all are right but my goal wouldn't be to fuck them / use them. The contrary actually, I would do for them the same thing I do to all my other friends. Provide them with genuine value and be of service to them. Sure some people take advantage but I know better. Its just the way I chose to live my life.