Tropical Bar Reports

[RikyMichaels7]

It's preposterous to conclude anything is 100% in life. You have to look at the statistic trends. You should see a very high percentage of putas in Mexico, Thailand, the Phil or any country have their own personal space and love life. They work in the bar to make money to feed their BFs and kids, also their drugs habits, not to date and find love from mongers. Mongers are way low in their list of priority. Good luck if you want to spend time, energy and money to find those putas with hearts of gold.

Contrary to some guys' erroneous guesses, I do and did have lots of successful, fulfilling personal, professional and romantic relationships. If I want to look for girls for romantic relationships, I would aim for the very beautiful, educated, accomplished with honorable professions and good social standings, which many are available for dating, looking for real love and honest relationships, never among the rotten, greedy, drugs -addicted putas who rent their pussies to any monger for money and always scheme to suck money out of guys.

Not that I don't have sympathy for the hardships and abuses that some of these putas had to go through in their lives. I am level, honest and generous with them. But putas are there to sell quick sex for money transactions. If they fulfill their side of the bargain then they deserve respect as honest humans, nothing more. Some guys are just too low down nd desperate to try hard to have personal and romantic relationships with corrupt putas or ex putas..

The last sentence in this post represents the absolute truth and bottom line when it comes to the question of having a successful relationship with a bar girl. Based on my experience, since going to the bars in 1999, I have met hundreds of girls in these bars. I have had three relationships with these girls. One for 5 years, one for 4 years and the other 2 years. The first one was the infamous Yamilet from Bar Tropical that almost ended up killing me. The other two were great women who ended up being committed and loyal, even though the relationships eventually ended due to my moving to work in other states. So to be honest with you, I would say that your chances of being in a committed relationship with a bar girl, and based on my experiences, are staggeringly low. To the tune of about a. 05% success rate, due to the fact that the bottom line for them is to get the green out of you any way they can. And as I have experienced, they are mostly professional manipulators and con artists who are very good at what they do. So, as Captain conveys, don't blur the line, because you will lose almost every time when you think they might be relationship material. And as another poster stated, Bar Tropical is one of the worst places to think you can have a relationship with a woman. After dating Yamilet and going places with many of her puta friends that worked there. The majority of them have boyfriends (most are worthless leeches), are drug addicts (and yes, many do crystal on a regular basis), and will tap you out of every dime in your pocket.

[Dogers69]

A few years back, a nice, bright, young, good-looking, educated, successful and well-off wingman with a great career, was going to La Zona with me on weekends. He would hang out in Chavelas drinking, partying all night with the girls. He thought Chavelas girls were more attractive and more real, while I found most big, heavy, homely, unattractive, so I would hang out in HK with hot girls. One night a Chavelas woman offered me TLN or $50. I looked at her huge stomach and decided I would never be able to find her pussy buried in all that fat, so I politely declined.

He had a very active sex life with many hot, young civies, but eventually he found a Chavelas girl he really liked. She must have been very attractive as he was smitten. His Spanish was gibberish like a 1 year old, but he would sit and try to talk to her all night, buying her fichas, drinking in her alleged beauty. He was very serious with this girl, wanted to make her a GF, taking her out on dates, gifts, shopping, dinners, clubs, then sleeping overnight in her cramped and cluttered apartment she shared with her sister, BF and kids. He wanted to make the relationship personal, so never offered to pay her. He slept with her in the apartment a couple times then texted me, why she never let him fuck. I told him she was a puta, she fucks guys for a living, she would fuck. But he got nowhere with her..

This is funny. It reminds me of my 1st year going to zona 6 years ago. A small bar had a middle aged woman who would want to come to my revolucion hotel after she finished at 4 am. She would come in and sleep and I was already tired didn't hit on her. On the 3rd time at my hotel I tried to take her clothes off. She said I needed to pay LOL. I was like what? I spend 70 on drinks with her I thought that was enough. So I never slept with her. All the guys that worked at the bar thought we were a couple but I never slept with her. Then one time she cried when I used the translate app and she saw me sentence hitting on other woman.

[Captain Solo]

Big Majick,

Bar girls have to pay rent, buy food, booze, drugs, support BFs, kids, families. For most it's a struggle for survival every night. Working in the bar is very serious business to them. They have met hundreds guys who think they are slick and suave and can game them into giving free or cheap sex. Most have been fucked, impregnated, saddled with babies and abandoned in their young ages by guys. Bar girls are probably the most cunning and cynical creatures on earth. They just hate and despise guys who try to take advantage of them. Good luck to try to find that niave innocent young girls who have not gone through a couple abusive relationships and are unattached, looking for romantic relationships with guys in puta bars.

Doers anybody walk into a burger shop and hope to get a free $1 burger? Bar girls' companies, time and sex sessions are their serious business. To them guys who try to get free sex or cheap sex are thieves and cheaters, deserving the worst treatments.

Some guys think they are special and can convince bar girls to turn GFs with promises, flatteries, gifts, wining, dining, vacations. The girls would enjoy all those perks, but it's business to them. The need to get paid for their companies is foremost in their minds. Unless the guys pay them for sex on the vacation, she would feel being taken advantaged of. Even the hottest girls who make a lot of money every night fucking guys in the club, not strapped for money, would still insist on getting paid for sex on vacation and feel cheated if not compensated.

It's well known girls in Mexico start their sex lives early. They have plenty of guys they involve with deeply. They don't need more personal relationships with some BS guys in the bars who may only try to fuck them cheap, use them and potentially exploit them. Most have BFs, pimps and kids to support. While there may be exceptions, bar girls are almost always pay for play to mongers, no pay, no play. Show them your hearts of gold and your big wallets and find out how far you can get.

A few of my wingmen thought their generous gifts and expensive vacations compensated the girls for their companies and sex, but the girls feel they are entitled to those free goodies, and still have to be paid for their time and sessions. They called these guys some ugly names and quickly cut off contacts.

[SeaBeeJoe]

I understand his point of view and I agree that no one should go looking for a relationship with a working girl but what is wrong how he paints every girl to be the same. The same could be said for every guy that goes to Tijuana that the girls see us the same way. Obviously we are all different. Besides the only guys that get hurt in the Zona are ones that aren't wise enough to see the games. Usually it's guys that are looking for girls that art way out of their league. Now the only thing that I will say about most girls in Tijuana now is different to 20 years ago when a lot of bars had girls to drink with more and weren't looking to go up every time.

I agree completely with your statement. It is funny how people attack another's opinion on these forums. It is like any ideas that contradict their's they will take as a personal attack. Well my country is a free one and I will allways exercise my right to freedom of speech no matter who it might offend. [Deleted by Admin]

[ScottHall]

You have to anticipate that these attractive girls have plenty of potential novios in their inner circle and home towns. Anyone who believes they're the favorito is kidding themselves. Relationships and friendships are two way streets. Would these girls hang out with us or bang us if we weren't compensating them? Would these girls lift a finger for us if there was no more money and we are the ones down on our luck? This is all a good time and a fantasy life. It's just not a substitute for the real world.

[SeaBeeJoe]

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[Captain Solo]

A few years back, a nice, bright, young, good-looking, educated, successful and well-off wingman with a great career, was going to La Zona with me on weekends. He would hang out in Chavelas drinking, partying all night with the girls. He thought Chavelas girls were more attractive and more real, while I found most big, heavy, homely, unattractive, so I would hang out in HK with hot girls. One night a Chavelas woman offered me TLN or $50. I looked at her huge stomach and decided I would never be able to find her pussy buried in all that fat, so I politely declined.

He had a very active sex life with many hot, young civies, but eventually he found a Chavelas girl he really liked. She must have been very attractive as he was smitten. His Spanish was gibberish like a 1 year old, but he would sit and try to talk to her all night, buying her fichas, drinking in her alleged beauty. He was very serious with this girl, wanted to make her a GF, taking her out on dates, gifts, shopping, dinners, clubs, then sleeping overnight in her cramped and cluttered apartment she shared with her sister, BF and kids. He wanted to make the relationship personal, so never offered to pay her. He slept with her in the apartment a couple times then texted me, why she never let him fuck. I told him she was a puta, she fucks guys for a living, she would fuck. But he got nowhere with her.

He got back to me again, she would not fuck all those nights he slept with her in the apartment. He was wondering if she was a virgin, or she may be a transsexual. I told him she must have fucked thousands guys in her puta career so she could not be a virgin. I suggested he grope her crotch to verify if she was a trannie, but he said she never once let him grope her crotch. This wingman is in a profession which he has to work with a lot of people with critical needs. He should know how to figure out what people want and need better than 99% people in other professions. But in his own situation dealing with this girl, he was totally confused. So I told him the only thing left is, she wanted money to fuck.

The next date they came back late to the apartment, he gave her a chunk of money. In the room Guess what happened? She counted the money then pulled in him down in bed, kissing, groping and quickly fucking his brains out. I cannot give out more details to protect the people involved. My other wingmen know this guy and this story. I am not trying to generalize, but one more guy found out, he, his love and his personal relationship did not worth shit to his puta; only his money does.

[Captain Solo]

Here you go.

She made Poker believe she graduated from a university and she's his exclusive GF. He paid big money for this alleged exclusive relationship.

She forgot to tell him it's Putas Universidad, and exclusive to her means fucking a hundred guys a week in the bar exclusively for him.

[Big Magick]

As men, we must think rationally above all else. We know dating working girls is dumb but it allows us to date women above our level looks wise. Its illogical to objectify bar girls in one post, rating them, judging them like a piece of meat and then talking about dating them like a regular girl in the next post. Is it possible to have a genuine relationship with a bar girl? Sure. Is it the best place to find a girl, we all know its not. But if you're just looking to "date" hot girls and have fun then its a great place to meet women because where else can you date 9's and 10's so easily. I have to say though, many putas have told me about men they have dated and even had kids with, they were all extremely wealthy. If you think you can compete with that then go ahead. Even myself, when I get more free time I will try and date bar girls but my approach would be different. Go in, don't pay for sex only a ficha or two and game them like I would regular chicks. If they want to come along for the fun they can and if they want money well on to the next! That's proof right there because it's happened before. Some girls will go out with you just because its an adventure they couldn't take on their own but reality is the girls are there to make money and most don't have interest in just "going out."

[Explorer8939]

It looks like you have met the girl I met a year ago that came back to the Bar this month, I used to fly her up just to see me because she said she never wanted to go back, she just graduated from a university in GDL and decided to go back to work, I was disappointed to say the least, she has been there almost 3 weeks now and I refuse to pay a puta anywhere near what I was giving her for an exclusive arrangement, she accidentally ended up at the bar again for a week early on, I should have gotten a clue, be careful she is not girlfriend material.

If you are looking for a girlfriend in Bar Tropical, you are making a big mistake.

[SpeedToys]

Not stupid. True. I don't believe any of us can be upstanding honest men with the putas. It works both ways. That's my point, a brothel is for transactional sex.

But that does not constitute a dishonest person, at face value.

Which blanket rule do you want?

[PokerLover11]

I've read this thread regarding putas lie, no Pretty Woman ending, etc. And everyone's experience is enlightening. I would add one point. It is what you make of it.

A relationship is absolutely possible. I speak from experience. But I think you must consider how or where you fish. I would say there are at least a small percentage of chicas that are good-hearted. This is by no means a criticism, but most guys on here look at the chicas as a business transaction. Nothing wrong with that. 99% of the time, she sees you the same way. But that's how you fish. If that's the interaction, I would agree. No chance of a relationship.

I play the game very differently. Most guys on here will tell me I'm wasting time and money and I understand why. But I value a night of drinking, laughing, partying and talking with a chica as much as anything. And when I find the right girl, life is good. I've had two very serious, honest, long term relationships develop in this manner. It's not easy. There is a lot of suspicion and doubt to overcome on both sides. But if I approached these girls as a business transaction, it would never develop.
As I said, most guys have no interest in a relationship. And more power to them. We all have different desires and pursuits. But I would strongly recommend that we appreciate the phrase ymmv. Saying that every puta lies, always. Or that a relationship could never work. There's part of that mindset that scares me. We are painting ourselves into a small corner..

It looks like you have met the girl I met a year ago that came back to the Bar this month, I used to fly her up just to see me because she said she never wanted to go back, she just graduated from a university in GDL and decided to go back to work, I was disappointed to say the least, she has been there almost 3 weeks now and I refuse to pay a puta anywhere near what I was giving her for an exclusive arrangement, she accidentally ended up at the bar again for a week early on, I should have gotten a clue, be careful she is not girlfriend material.

[NeverOnce]

There is no more upstanding, honest woman than a working girl. She makes it clear that you will pay including the amount for sex.

That's actually very true.

[NeverOnce]

Since all why'all are going to paint all women with the same brushes.

You're silly as is -in- the brothel too.

Sorta makes ALL of us equally incapable of being upstanding, honest men.

See how stupid that is. And no, it's not unfair to use the same brush, back on yourself.

Not stupid. True. I don't believe any of us can be upstanding honest men with the putas. It works both ways. That's my point, a brothel is for transactional sex.

[SpeedToys]

...there are many ways to connect with upstanding, honest women. A brothel is definitely not one of them..

Since all y'all are going to paint all women with the same brushes.

You're silly as is -in- the brothel too.

Sorta makes ALL of us equally incapable of being upstanding, honest men.

See how stupid that is. And no, it's not unfair to use the same brush, back on yourself.