Tropical Bar Reports

[Hadez]

I realize there are exceptions to every concept but I think people wanting a relationship with a sex worker should think hard about what they are expecting.

First consider what you actually want from the sex worker. I am not talking about listing a bunch of things to the public to be viewed on by the public and public judgment. Sit down and make a private list to yourself about what you expect. What is mandatory and what is something you can be flexible about.

Then make a list of what you are willing to offer. What is your limitations.

Ok start there.

Now consider this. Any sex worker relationship will probably start with the exchange of money. This means it is a business relationship. Now unless the girl is rich and doing this for fun she will always be needing money and will always look at you as a source of revenue. There are implications to this and what it means and it can vary from relationship to relationship. Now compare the concepts of this business relationship with the above list of expectations.

I have had a lot of fun short term relationships with sex workers. The problems have always come when I expected it to be something more than a short term relationship. Now all these have been USA sex workers. While Zona girls are definitely different in some ways they also need money and will also always see the guy as a source of revenue.

While I would like to add more of my knowledge like I said early my experience is with USA sex workers. There is definitely something different about Zona girls. I started the process of long distance relationships with some of the girls but nothing has gotten too much further than repeat customers with good service. If I lived in San Diego maybe I would have more data to add. Not sure if that matters because I can tell you in the USA Sex Worker concept having job is a obstacle to having a personal relationship with a USA sex worker. It helps further the business relationship though.

My current opinion in general on personal medium or long term relationships with girls under 30 is very difficult no matter what they do. Add in sex worker and the guy is a source of revenue and it becomes more complicated. There are actually girls in HK who I follow on facebook and I can tell you they know they are difficult to their relationship partners LOL.

[Baxter Slade]

Another point that I want to make regarding relationships with bar girls is the following:

It is extremely difficult for bar girls to find jobs in Tijuana that enable them to earn a living. This is especially true with those that have no "preppa" or the equivalent of a high school diploma. This is why there are so many beautiful women working in the bars as they can actually survive on the bar money, even fichas alone. There options are few, including working in a factory, being hair stylists, working in a restaurant, etc. These jobs pay very little. To the tune of may 60-75 dollars a week. Most of these women are the victims of an ex-boyfriend or husband who has cheated on them and left them with kids. One of the girls I had a relationship with got a nursing degree and couldn't make more than a hundred dollars a week (some will challenge me on this but I know for a fact). Therefore, when you do get into a relationship, unless you are ok with the girl staying and working in the bars (where their best choice for making any decent cash lies), you are going to end up forking over substantial amounts of money for food, rent, clothes, sicknesses, etc. And, of course if they have kids, you can count on expenses for school, uniforms, etc. Etc. If you have the money to keep the girl out of the bar then that is a plus. I am not rich, but I have made a good income. The girls I had relationships with didn't want to work in the bars and I didn't want them to either. Therefore, I ended up paying for everything. So, the question you have to ask yourself, is. Is it worth it? And, frankly, I got tired of forking over the dough because there was always something that required more money. Always.

Very true Riky, The current GF was living with sisters who wanted her to contribute more to the family expenses which led her to give the bars a try. Her regular factory job is brutal from 7. A. m to 7 pm But she is proud to work there as she found the bars to be disgusting. So after we were together for a while she hit me up with she wanted to move away from the sisters and get her own place. She saw what I was paying at Ticuan and cascadas every weekend and said if I could spend some of that money on helping her with rent it would be best for both of us. So I pretty much pay the $300 a month rent and I'm still saving money that I would have spent on hotels. And what I saw that guys are paying for TLN's I'm getting a hell of a deal.

And Dcups yes I do remember meeting you. Any questions hit me up in a pm. Just not sure what I have learned in Tijuana will apply to other parts of the world.

[SeaBeeJoe]

I find this very interesting, Baxter, as I would have considered a similar arrangement. Wish I would have gotten to know you better. As you recall we met briefly at Adelitas a while back. But I am on my way to the Philippines soon for good and don't know if I will ever go to Mexico again. Cheers, buddy.

Yes I have had a few relationships in the past and you are spot on. If it is only for money it comes out very quickly for sure.

[D Cups]

About 15 years ago I got so tired of the traditional pay for play Tijuana mongering and set out on an experiment. Would it be possible to enter into a real relationship with bg's and I have learned a lot like ricky I have had several long term relationships and some short term ones mixed in.

Here is some info I have learned over the years. It doesn't take long to figure out if its ONLY about the money, that pretty much summed up the short term relationships. First thing I learned is work slowly, if you meet someone you are attracted to and take them up right away as soon as you become a client that right there pretty much wipes out any chance of a real relationship. You guys might be happy to learn the next thing I learned. Is it important to be guapo (handsome) , hell no I'm old ugly and balding. In the 3 long term relationships I have had the most important thing that has made me good relationship material is being accepted by their families. So far in most cases I hear the same thing, the kids never like who mom is dating and for some reason they like me. Only thing I can think of is I do resemble a clown Jajajaja. But being accepted by the kids does seem to outweigh money and looks. And it is rare to find a bar chica without kids.

So these bg relationships have been the best years of my life seeing Tijuana outside the zona norte has been exciting and fun. I have done it all been to all kinds of fiestas. One advantage is when going to a wedding or similar event you will end up assigned to the table with her bg friends also known as the hooker table..

I find this very interesting, Baxter, as I would have considered a similar arrangement. Wish I would have gotten to know you better. As you recall we met briefly at Adelitas a while back. But I am on my way to the Philippines soon for good and don't know if I will ever go to Mexico again. Cheers, buddy.

[RikyMichaels7]

Another point that I want to make regarding relationships with bar girls is the following:

It is extremely difficult for bar girls to find jobs in Tijuana that enable them to earn a living. This is especially true with those that have no "preppa" or the equivalent of a high school diploma. This is why there are so many beautiful women working in the bars as they can actually survive on the bar money, even fichas alone. There options are few, including working in a factory, being hair stylists, working in a restaurant, etc. These jobs pay very little. To the tune of may 60-75 dollars a week. Most of these women are the victims of an ex-boyfriend or husband who has cheated on them and left them with kids. One of the girls I had a relationship with got a nursing degree and couldn't make more than a hundred dollars a week (some will challenge me on this but I know for a fact). Therefore, when you do get into a relationship, unless you are ok with the girl staying and working in the bars (where their best choice for making any decent cash lies), you are going to end up forking over substantial amounts of money for food, rent, clothes, sicknesses, etc. And, of course if they have kids, you can count on expenses for school, uniforms, etc. Etc. If you have the money to keep the girl out of the bar then that is a plus. I am not rich, but I have made a good income. The girls I had relationships with didn't want to work in the bars and I didn't want them to either. Therefore, I ended up paying for everything. So, the question you have to ask yourself, is. Is it worth it? And, frankly, I got tired of forking over the dough because there was always something that required more money. Always.

[RikyMichaels7]

About 15 years ago I got so tired of the traditional pay for play Tijuana mongering and set out on an experiment. Would it be possible to enter into a real relationship with bg's and I have learned a lot like ricky I have had several long term relationships and some short term ones mixed in.

Here is some info I have learned over the years. It doesn't take long to figure out if its ONLY about the money, that pretty much summed up the short term relationships. First thing I learned is work slowly, if you meet someone you are attracted to and take them up right away as soon as you become a client that right there pretty much wipes out any chance of a real relationship. You guys might be happy to learn the next thing I learned. Is it important to be guapo (handsome) , hell no I'm old ugly and balding. In the 3 long term relationships I have had the most important thing that has made me good relationship material is being accepted by their families. So far in most cases I hear the same thing, the kids never like who mom is dating and for some reason they like me. Only thing I can think of is I do resemble a clown Jajajaja. But being accepted by the kids does seem to outweigh money and looks. And it is rare to find a bar chica without kids..

Right on the money Baxter! The girls that I had relationships with were not the hardened long timers. They had worked in the bars for only a short time. Both hated having to work in the bars and wanted an exit strategy. They, unlike most hardened putas, actually came from decent families and were empathetic and respectful. 99.05% of the rest of the women I met knew every trick in the book to get money. Some of them had several dudes sending them Western Union money monthly, not to mention boyfriends.

[Baxter Slade]

The last sentence in this post represents the absolute truth and bottom line when it comes to the question of having a successful relationship with a bar girl. Based on my experience, since going to the bars in 1999, I have met hundreds of girls in these bars. I have had three relationships with these girls. One for 5 years, one for 4 years and the other 2 years..

About 15 years ago I got so tired of the traditional pay for play Tijuana mongering and set out on an experiment. Would it be possible to enter into a real relationship with bg's and I have learned a lot like ricky I have had several long term relationships and some short term ones mixed in.

Here is some info I have learned over the years. It doesn't take long to figure out if its ONLY about the money, that pretty much summed up the short term relationships. First thing I learned is work slowly, if you meet someone you are attracted to and take them up right away as soon as you become a client that right there pretty much wipes out any chance of a real relationship. You guys might be happy to learn the next thing I learned. Is it important to be guapo (handsome) , hell no I'm old ugly and balding. In the 3 long term relationships I have had the most important thing that has made me good relationship material is being accepted by their families. So far in most cases I hear the same thing, the kids never like who mom is dating and for some reason they like me. Only thing I can think of is I do resemble a clown Jajajaja. But being accepted by the kids does seem to outweigh money and looks. And it is rare to find a bar chica without kids.

So these bg relationships have been the best years of my life seeing Tijuana outside the zona norte has been exciting and fun. I have done it all been to all kinds of fiestas. One advantage is when going to a wedding or similar event you will end up assigned to the table with her bg friends also known as the hooker table.

The first 2 relationships involved girls who had been in the bar life for years but were ready for an exit strategy. They made relationships a little harder to accept. I can never forget the time waking up in bed with my new GF after a great night together she gets a phone call and explains she has to go fuck someone but she will be back in a couple hours. Ok so we can agree these type of relationships are far from normal.

On a side note the current GF was never really a hooker I met her on her first and last night working in a bar. She has been a real sweetheart most of the time. Only drawback of not being a seasoned sex worker is she can't give a decent BJ. I'm pretty sure she doesn't have the dreaded real BF, she is always available and I do have a key to the casa. But I have noticed she does post a lot of sexy pictures on social media and seems to do a lot of facebook flirting. I recently got in her phone and discovered at least one guy sending her money via western union. When confronted she says don't worry she blames some amiga she met on fb who was teaching her how to pick up some extra money. So I quizzed her, so what do you tell these guys? How handsome they are and you love them. She says of course not you tell them how sad you are because your mom is dying and she can't afford the surgery to save her life. Jajaja where have I heard that one before.

As far as these relationships go the one thing I learned from a member of this forum that has proved to be the most important is. The one who cares the most has the most to lose.

[LuvMexicanas]

I have briefly rubbed shoulders with the upper class in America and they are miserable, sad, evil folks.

Being part of said group, I can't really disagree with you for the most part. Although many in the group are more bored than sad or clueless about real life than evil. I too prefer hanging out with the "dregs" of society as you put it. For example, not only are working girls more real in some respects, they are more predictable.

[SeaBeeJoe]

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[Captain Solo]

Agree with NeverOnce.

I am in this forum to exchange info to get better sexepriences, also to share good things with the bros and have fun with them. I have no need to prove anything to anyone. So far I have lots of fun with quite a few bros in the forum or on site in many mongering locations. Some bros have shown me the sexiest and funniest times in other countries.

I would leave others to pursue their preferences. Only when they are near the point of going in harm ways, then I would let them know in the gentlest ways.

[PokerLover11]

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[PokerLover11]

Here you go.

She made Poker believe she graduated from a university and she's his exclusive GF. He paid big money for this alleged exclusive relationship.

She forgot to tell him it's Putas Universidad, and exclusive to her means fucking a hundred guys a week in the bar exclusively for him.

I mostly enjoy your perspective but I know this girl better than from the bar I could tell you her real name address, family life I have pictures of her in GDL she brings her books with her when she comes to see me. She is still on the innocent side, I was getting BBFS CIP with this girl, go see if you can get it, her name is Samira at the bar unless she is using a different name 5'2 105 long hair down to her waist brown with blond highlights, nice tight pussy but a little reserved. It is what we are all looking for BBFS with a beautiful new Puta. Unfortunately I could not keep her to myself for more than 9 months, I met her Jan 8 2020. Back in the pond with her.

[Elvis 2008]

A relationship is absolutely possible. I speak from experience. But I think you must consider how or where you fish. I would say there are at least a small percentage of chicas that are good-hearted. This is by no means a criticism, but most guys on here look at the chicas as a business transaction. Nothing wrong with that. 99% of the time, she sees you the same way. But that's how you fish. If that's the interaction, I would agree. No chance of a relationship.

I play the game very differently. Most guys on here will tell me I'm wasting time and money and I understand why. But I value a night of drinking, laughing, partying and talking with a chica as much as anything. And when I find the right girl, life is good. I've had two very serious, honest, long term relationships develop in this manner. It's not easy. There is a lot of suspicion and doubt to overcome on both sides. But if I approached these girls as a business transaction, it would never develop.

As I said, most guys have no interest in a relationship. And more power to them. We all have different desires and pursuits. But I would strongly recommend that we appreciate the phrase ymmv. Saying that every puta lies, always. Or that a relationship could never work. There's part of that mindset that scares me. We are painting ourselves into a small corner..

I like the post Dchrist and the way you go about things tell me you are seasoned.

Thing is when you get in these discussions it is always one or the other. She is totally into you or totally into your money. The reality is that it is a sliding scale. Yes, pros are 100% about the money but is any woman really 100% into the guy? It is not 1% about money or how the guy makes her look good? I do not know if I buy that 0% is possible with any woman.

So if you accept my premise, I would like to ask you something about Mexican versus American strippers. What I found is that just having plain ho sex (100% transactional) was not that satisfying, so I went the sugar baby route. It varied based on the relationship but what I would say is a pro was 100% money, a sugar baby was closer to 40 to 60% about money, and a GF / wife would ideally be 25% or less. And the SB sex or GF sex was usually light years better than ho sex.

With American strippers, if I went below 90% pay for play, I would get burned. What I mean is that if you had anything other than a casual acquaintance level relationship, you would be taken advantage of. If you gave a stripper a million dollars, she would not appreciate it but think "Yeah, I am so hot. I deserve it. " or "Shit, I should have gotten $2 million out of him. " As long as I was firm on the amount I gave her, things were fine.

In general then, I gave up trying to make strippers into SBs, but once I accepted how they were, they were great. I had some amazing sex, and the sex, because there was even that small percentage of intimacy, was much better than with hos.

I had to stick to seeking.com/ SA to get sugar babies in the USA. Seeking.com or SA is different when I went abroad, and I had several chances to make women into GFs and twice I felt comfortable enough to do that.

I did meet a former stripper in Monterrey who was on seeking / SA. She was different in that she did not have her hand out after sex was over and expect payment like a ho. I helped her out and took her on trips and had a great time with her but she was not IMO GF material. SB material for sure but not GF material.

To me, in the USA, there is like this stripper code that is kind of fucked up. It's like "I may grind on a guy's dick topless for money, but I do not fuck or suck dick for it. " As long as you can help the stripper hide the fact that she is not breaking that code, she can be down to play.

So my question is this: Because the Mexican strippers are all fucking and sucking anyway, have you been able to get over that 90% hump? Do you think that is possible? What do you think is the percentage you can get to with a Mexican stripper? IMO and from what I saw the Mexican stripper was not as jaded because being a pro is legal in Mexico and not in the USA.

I am seeing an amazing Colombian woman now and it does not matter to me now, but I did meet a 20 year old from Puerto Vallarta in Tijuana who had only been working in the club a week. We had chemistry and she had an orgasm when we had sex. She was open to the idea of showing me around PV and hooking up with me if I went and saw her. Even though I did not have time to follow up, I felt like with her, she was potential SB material and I could have gotten over that 90% hump with her.

[Big Magick]

A working girl is always going to think like one. Same way a doctor thinks like a doctor outside of work too. I know this is all fantasy and pay for play but maybe dating is the wrong word. Its more of just a friendship I would have with working girls. I rather hang out with the dregs of society like putas, drug users and mongers they are more real then the upper class. I have briefly rubbed shoulders with the upper class in America and they are miserable, sad, evil folks. So maybe y'all are right but my goal wouldn't be to fuck them / use them. The contrary actually, I would do for them the same thing I do to all my other friends. Provide them with genuine value and be of service to them. Sure some people take advantage but I know better. Its just the way I chose to live my life.

[RikyMichaels7]

It's preposterous to conclude anything is 100% in life. You have to look at the statistic trends. You should see a very high percentage of putas in Mexico, Thailand, the Phil or any country have their own personal space and love life. They work in the bar to make money to feed their BFs and kids, also their drugs habits, not to date and find love from mongers. Mongers are way low in their list of priority. Good luck if you want to spend time, energy and money to find those putas with hearts of gold.

Contrary to some guys' erroneous guesses, I do and did have lots of successful, fulfilling personal, professional and romantic relationships. If I want to look for girls for romantic relationships, I would aim for the very beautiful, educated, accomplished with honorable professions and good social standings, which many are available for dating, looking for real love and honest relationships, never among the rotten, greedy, drugs -addicted putas who rent their pussies to any monger for money and always scheme to suck money out of guys.

Not that I don't have sympathy for the hardships and abuses that some of these putas had to go through in their lives. I am level, honest and generous with them. But putas are there to sell quick sex for money transactions. If they fulfill their side of the bargain then they deserve respect as honest humans, nothing more. Some guys are just too low down nd desperate to try hard to have personal and romantic relationships with corrupt putas or ex putas..

The last sentence in this post represents the absolute truth and bottom line when it comes to the question of having a successful relationship with a bar girl. Based on my experience, since going to the bars in 1999, I have met hundreds of girls in these bars. I have had three relationships with these girls. One for 5 years, one for 4 years and the other 2 years. The first one was the infamous Yamilet from Bar Tropical that almost ended up killing me. The other two were great women who ended up being committed and loyal, even though the relationships eventually ended due to my moving to work in other states. So to be honest with you, I would say that your chances of being in a committed relationship with a bar girl, and based on my experiences, are staggeringly low. To the tune of about a. 05% success rate, due to the fact that the bottom line for them is to get the green out of you any way they can. And as I have experienced, they are mostly professional manipulators and con artists who are very good at what they do. So, as Captain conveys, don't blur the line, because you will lose almost every time when you think they might be relationship material. And as another poster stated, Bar Tropical is one of the worst places to think you can have a relationship with a woman. After dating Yamilet and going places with many of her puta friends that worked there. The majority of them have boyfriends (most are worthless leeches), are drug addicts (and yes, many do crystal on a regular basis), and will tap you out of every dime in your pocket.