Tropical Bar Reports

[LuvMexicanas]

I understand his point of view and I agree that no one should go looking for a relationship with a working girl but what is wrong how he paints every girl to be the same. The same could be said for every guy that goes to Tijuana that the girls see us the same way. Obviously we are all different. Besides the only guys that get hurt in the Zona are ones that aren't wise enough to see the games. Usually it's guys that are looking for girls that art way out of their league. Now the only thing that I will say about most girls in Tijuana now is different to 20 years ago when a lot of bars had girls to drink with more and weren't looking to go up every time.

Don't waste your time. The blind disciples will follow the leader regardless.

[LuvMexicanas]

You're spot on, Cap. I've had a few friends that tried to turn hoes into housewives in the US. None have worked. Some wasted several years of their lives married to these girls. Not to say it's impossible, but I don't see why a guy would take this path if looking for a quality woman. As you said, there are many ways to connect with upstanding, honest women. A brothel is definitely not one of them. There might be a diamond in the rough here and there but the overwhelming odds are not in favor of an upstanding, honest woman at a place like HK.

There is no more upstanding, honest woman than a working girl. She makes it clear that you will pay including the amount for sex.

[NeverOnce]

It's preposterous to conclude anything is 100% in life. You have to look at the statistic trends. You should see a very high percentage of putas in Mexico, Thailand, the Phil or any country have their own personal space and love life. They work in the bar to make money to feed their BFs and kids, also their drugs habits, not to date and find love from mongers. Mongers are way low in their list of priority. Good luck if you want to spend time, energy and money to find those putas with hearts of gold.

Contrary to some guys' erroneous guesses, I do and did have lots of successful, fulfilling personal, professional and romantic relationships. If I want to look for girls for romantic relationships, I would aim for the very beautiful, educated, accomplished with honorable professions and good social standings, which many are available for dating, looking for real love and honest relationships, never among the rotten, greedy, drugs -addicted putas who rent their pussies to any monger for money and always scheme to suck money out of guys.

Not that I don't have sympathy for the hardships and abuses that some of these putas had to go through in their lives. I am level, honest and generous with them. But putas are there to sell quick sex for money transactions. If they fulfill their side of the bargain then they deserve respect as honest humans, nothing more. Some guys are just too low down nd desperate to try hard to have personal and romantic relationships with corrupt putas or ex putas.

I don't even want to suggest solutions to all guys' situations. You live your lives your own ways, take your own risks and make your own gains or losses. I prefer to keep transactional people on transactional basis. When you blur the line between business transactions and personal friendships, both your business and your friendships will be abused and will blow up in your face.

You're spot on, Cap. I've had a few friends that tried to turn hoes into housewives in the US. None have worked. Some wasted several years of their lives married to these girls. Not to say it's impossible, but I don't see why a guy would take this path if looking for a quality woman. As you said, there are many ways to connect with upstanding, honest women. A brothel is definitely not one of them. There might be a diamond in the rough here and there but the overwhelming odds are not in favor of an upstanding, honest woman at a place like HK.

[Sol12]

Once again the Captain speaks the truth. Better listen up or you will be run thru!

I understand his point of view and I agree that no one should go looking for a relationship with a working girl but what is wrong how he paints every girl to be the same. The same could be said for every guy that goes to Tijuana that the girls see us the same way. Obviously we are all different. Besides the only guys that get hurt in the Zona are ones that aren't wise enough to see the games. Usually it's guys that are looking for girls that art way out of their league. Now the only thing that I will say about most girls in Tijuana now is different to 20 years ago when a lot of bars had girls to drink with more and weren't looking to go up every time.

[SeaBeeJoe]

It's preposterous to conclude anything is 100% in life. You have to look at the statistic trends. You should see a very high percentage of putas in Mexico, Thailand, the Phil or any country have their own personal space and love life. They work in the bar to make money to feed their BFs and kids, also their drugs habits, not to date and find love from mongers. Mongers are way low in their list of priority. Good luck if you want to spend time, energy and money to find those putas with hearts of gold..

Once again the Captain speaks the truth. Better listen up or you will be run thru!

[Captain Solo]

It's preposterous to conclude anything is 100% in life. You have to look at the statistic trends. You should see a very high percentage of putas in Mexico, Thailand, the Phil or any country have their own personal space and love life. They work in the bar to make money to feed their BFs and kids, also their drugs habits, not to date and find love from mongers. Mongers are way low in their list of priority. Good luck if you want to spend time, energy and money to find those putas with hearts of gold.

Contrary to some guys' erroneous guesses, I do and did have lots of successful, fulfilling personal, professional and romantic relationships. If I want to look for girls for romantic relationships, I would aim for the very beautiful, educated, accomplished with honorable professions and good social standings, which many are available for dating, looking for real love and honest relationships, never among the rotten, greedy, drugs -addicted putas who rent their pussies to any monger for money and always scheme to suck money out of guys.

Not that I don't have sympathy for the hardships and abuses that some of these putas had to go through in their lives. I am level, honest and generous with them. But putas are there to sell quick sex for money transactions. If they fulfill their side of the bargain then they deserve respect as honest humans, nothing more. Some guys are just too low down nd desperate to try hard to have personal and romantic relationships with corrupt putas or ex putas.

I don't even want to suggest solutions to all guys' situations. You live your lives your own ways, take your own risks and make your own gains or losses. I prefer to keep transactional people on transactional basis. When you blur the line between business transactions and personal friendships, both your business and your friendships will be abused and will blow up in your face.

[SpeedToys]

Are they "my" dynamics or are they the dynamics of a P4 P situation? .

Yours.

Nobody else is in your head, as you play out your own detailed P4 P scenario.

And while I am. You are not in mine.

How I pump gas in a car has a specific procedure, how I get a load I'm a bar girl, I do on my own, and has nothing to do with your playbook.

There are nuances of how each of us go through it, how we (by default) treat women (as meat, property, or humans, etc), and every input we provide creates a unique response. And so on. Your route, is not mine or anyone elses.

The only thing we have in common is we pay cash for it.

[Member #4730]

Are they "my" dynamics or are they the dynamics of a P4 P situation? Specifically, the dynamics between working girls and John's at a *****house?

I don't thing the general rule you referenced applies at a *****house. I think that if guys go to a *****house with expectations of.

Meeting an honest girl with the potential of a successful long term relationship, is setting himself up for disappointment and potenia financial distress.

Honest question. Interested in your perspective.

It could be a question similar to any relationship. I do agree that a women in a P4 P scene makes it even more dynamic. Women wouldn't sleep with a guy for free if they weren't interested right? You are probably right and should keep it business only so you avoid future disappointments. I understand your reasoning and sometimes it is best to play it safe so you never get hurt.

[Member #4730]

I think she has more to be jealous of. Like I said before you are able to provide her with a life that most others, especially younger guys, wouldn't be able to do. On top of that you have a good heat and seem to be fit and not the common older overweight type. So be proud and confident with her and don't let the jealousy thing make you do or say something dumb.

Yeah I've said some pretty dumb stuff to her due to my own insecurities. My honesty is a love and hate with her as I tell it like it is. I'm not a sugar coat type of guy and more direct. Not sure if she deals with it since I offer support or just waiting until the New Years Paris trip is done.

[NeverOnce]

These are -your- dynamics.

Which is the whole point.

Are they "my" dynamics or are they the dynamics of a P4 P situation? Specifically, the dynamics between working girls and John's at a *****house?

I don't thing the general rule you referenced applies at a *****house. I think that if guys go to a *****house with expectations of.

Meeting an honest girl with the potential of a successful long term relationship, is setting himself up for disappointment and potenia financial distress.

Honest question. Interested in your perspective.

[Sol12]

I told her I am equally jealous as she is so hot and attracts bros everywhere we go. She acts like she isn't aware all of these guys are staring at her, but maybe she is telling the truth. I notice young and old guys just breaking their neck just to stare at her since she is taller with a coke bottle shaped figure. I think jealousy will kill the relationship so have to keep my insecurities in check.

I think she has more to be jealous of. Like I said before you are able to provide her with a life that most others, especially younger guys, wouldn't be able to do. On top of that you have a good heat and seem to be fit and not the common older overweight type. So be proud and confident with her and don't let the jealousy thing make you do or say something dumb.

[LuvMexicanas]

Well said SP.

The sad thing with CS is all his stories are what others have told him. To me he runs his life by what he sees happen to others and he thinks the same will happen to him. I don't know if he doesn't have the confidence in himself that he can find a girl that really loves him it's sad to think he will never enjoy the joy of a family. In this day and age unfortunately most relationships don't work weather your married 10 or 40 years. Yet if you were able to have children and enjoy those moments is very special. Yeah it didn't end like you wanted but when your 70 who will be there for you if you don't have a family. Now lots of guys may not want that but I think they just see the hard work that is involved sometimes but not the joyful times.

Unfortunately, it's common to see fellas act out and oftentimes a root cause is a deep-seated confidence issue.

[Member #4730]

The 3 day rule. Is a real thing. Even if you really like them, limit any one contact to that. But be respectful.

Every few years I get a trip somewhere, and Ill get really sick or something that will need some intense local knowledge quickly, I can call on these people and they will step in. Having these very close friends is useful in all manner of ways.

If you're in a hospital in Thailand. She'll sit there 24/7 and make sure the nurse is doing what's on YOUR schedule from the doctor. Man. Man. You can get fucked up in a Thai public Hospital.

Even if a leg was falling off, I would scooter to Bangkok Pattaya Hospital, than next door at Pattaya Memorial. Strewth.

I do miss the Thai hospitality and they know how to "take care" of you. One would meet me at the airport with a lei and scooter me all around Pattaya. She was from Issan, but never desired to visit. I recall getting deathly ill from eating a hamburger in Bangkok and she went out to get me food, medicine, movies, and drinks.

[SpeedToys]

I agree with you as a general rule but the rule doesn't apply here. These are putas and we are sex mongers.

The dynamics are pretty straight forward.

These are -your- dynamics.

Which is the whole point.

[SpeedToys]

Wow super depressing stories. Thanks for sharing your perspective. I've met a few wonderful bar girls throughout the world, but I think I violate the 3 day rule repeatedly as regulars that you connect with emotionally and physically just do it for me. Starfish me the first session and definitely not repeating. Offer me amazing out of this world sex the first time, then I'm sure to return. The one I've been meeting on regular trips to Rosarito, Ensenada, Cancun, and future trip to Paris has been amazing to me. She is more intense than the Thai bar girl I took on a trip to Cambodia. Every time they invite me to their homes, cook or do my laundry, and genuinely share their stories. It seems you must have gotten close to a few to know their personal stories. If I ever met Sasha and Ginger, then I'd just give them a large tip with no strings attached. "We are reminded how short life really is, and how we are just passing through. So, all the people you haven't told you love lately, tell them, and live your days like you mean it. " Hal Sutton.

The 3 day rule. Is a real thing. Even if you really like them, limit any one contact to that. But be respectful.

Every few years I get a trip somewhere, and Ill get really sick or something that will need some intense local knowledge quickly, I can call on these people and they will step in. Having these very close friends is useful in all manner of ways.

If you're in a hospital in Thailand. She'll sit there 24/7 and make sure the nurse is doing what's on YOUR schedule from the doctor. Man. Man. You can get fucked up in a Thai public Hospital.

Even if a leg was falling off, I would scooter to Bangkok Pattaya Hospital, than next door at Pattaya Memorial. Strewth.