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  1. #693
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    For the reference, I had a 90 min foot massage for 60k ticket + 80k tip in HCMC in D5. That's what they asked for. At Pham Ngu Lao, they advertise 1h for about $7 (140k) , so outside in non-tourist areas it should be less. Therefore. 250k for a foot massage is way out of line (even 200k is quite generous). In Thailand it's 200 baht (140k dong) , and living costs are much higher.
    Again the rule of thumb in Vietnam, for everyone not just tourists and expats, is that the tip for such services as massage, haircuts (hot toc. Legit places) , BnGs, nail maintenance, etc. The tip is equal to the house fee. You go to the beauty salons on Bui Thi Xuan and get a haircut, shampoo, and massage. The house fee would be about 150-200k. The girl is EXPECTING that as a tip, weather you are a local or a tourist. If you don't want to tip that much, go to a regular barber for 15, 000vnd, get your ears lowered and the tip is the same again. So 30k VND total. Of course I don't think anyone should be physically assaulted for under tipping, especially if someone just didn't know. But at the same time, the people here do work hard for their money and are on limited incomes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    Needless to say, Vietnamese are so blatantly out for money (for minimum service) that I can understand Cambo swinging the pendulum the other way this time. If this were Thailand or Laos, I'd be up in arms against underpaying, since they honestly try to please and usually don't fuss too much about tips (although it means to them just as much as it is for the Viets).
    For a lot of the guys here I understand Vietnam is just a travel spot while in Asia. But let me tell you guys something. Learning even just a little bit of the language weather you are just visiting or living here, will increase your happiness 7-fold. I'm fairly fluent in the language, reading / writing / speaking / listening, and since I've improved my language skills, I can tell you from personal experience that my experiences in VN have become more pleasant and with less confusion, especially in regards to money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    Recently I've been to the few Hot Toc places at DBP (Dien Bien Phu).

    Bennys asked for 150k ticket + 100 tip for the quick blowie, and were adamant on the price. Having done the same earlier for 200k total, and knowing the service would be no better I refused.

    Second place, same story. 150k + 100 tip. I did this too a month previously for 200k. Did they really increase the prices for everyone, or are they just trying it on?

    The feeling I get from the Viet scene is increasingly "it's cheap, but no matter how little you pay, they'll make every effort to deliver far less".
    If one place on DBP is raising the price, then they will all be doing it. Sounds like they are increasing the price based on the current raise in inflation. Sucks for those living here and getting paid in VND instead of USD / EUR. I haven't been out to DBP's BnGs for a while so I couldn't tell you if that is the standard price now or not, but sounds like it is.

  2. #692

    Blowies at DBP

    Recently I've been to the few Hot Toc places at DBP (Dien Bien Phu).

    Bennys asked for 150k ticket + 100 tip for the quick blowie, and were adamant on the price. Having done the same earlier for 200k total, and knowing the service would be no better I refused.

    Second place, same story. 150k + 100 tip. I did this too a month previously for 200k. Did they really increase the prices for everyone, or are they just trying it on?

    Finaly, in the third place, I was quoted 250k, but when I started walking away, they called me back and accepted 200k. The girl was super pretty, but the place upstairs was so damn dark I couldn't see the massage table let alone her face. Why, oh, why do the Viets always turn an event that could be a memorable moment of joy into a worst-we-can-come-up-with sperm letoff? It's *same* work for the girl and would take the same time if they actually made the customer somewhat comfortable and unconstrained by stupid rules. Does the darkness and pants-around-ankles make it legal or what?

    The feeling I get from the Viet scene is increasingly "it's cheap, but no matter how little you pay, they'll make every effort to deliver far less".

  3. #691
    Quote Originally Posted by Camboblowshooter  [View Original Post]
    had a foot massage yesterday, ticket 150. 000, was good, tipped the girl 50. 000 which she immediately pushed back in my hand, gave me a big smile and followed me downstairs, oh boy, I knew what was going to come. The cashier; ohh, she no salary here, you have to tipp per 100. 000
    For the reference, I had a 90 min foot massage for 60k ticket + 80k tip in HCMC in D5. That's what they asked for. At Pham Ngu Lao, they advertise 1h for about $7 (140k) , so outside in non-tourist areas it should be less. Therefore. 250k for a foot massage is way out of line (even 200k is quite generous). In Thailand it's 200 baht (140k dong) , and living costs are much higher.

    Needless to say, Vietnamese are so blatantly out for money (for minimum service) that I can understand Cambo swinging the pendulum the other way this time. If this were Thailand or Laos, I'd be up in arms against underpaying, since they honestly try to please and usually don't fuss too much about tips (although it means to them just as much as it is for the Viets).

    Kick in the back is completely unwarranted. Post the name of the place, so people can avoid it.

  4. #690
    Quote Originally Posted by Camboblowshooter  [View Original Post]
    Just to counter the report, had a foot massage yesterday, ticket 150. 000, was good, tipped the girl 50. 000 which she immediately pushed back in my hand, gave me a big smile and followed me downstairs, oh boy, I knew what was going to come. The cashier; ohh, she no salary here, you have to tipp per 100. 000 bla bla bla, told her this was not going to happen and just paid her the 150. 000, after I turned and was straightforward kicked in the back. Believe it or not, as the massage girl was some 80 kilos lighter then myself, decided not to hit her, but.
    Geez, how much of a Cheap Charlie can you be? Your food / drink bill when you go out is probably more than what most locals earn in 1 month.

    Massages are already cheap here, these girls work very hard for their money, You should try massaging someone for any more than 10min's and see how tired your hands get. Just because she didn't do the 5 knuckle shuffle on your old fella doesn't mean you should be insulting her with your tip. She refused the tip because it was insulting, Same way you would refuse being underpaid from a client / customer.

    With bull5hit like that tip your paying, she should have kicked you in the nuts.

  5. #689
    Quote Originally Posted by Alwayshard45  [View Original Post]
    Unusual but delightful experience today. I was in the upper D1 area today and decided to swing by on the of the BnGs on NPK...
    Quote Originally Posted by Alwayshard45  [View Original Post]
    Yes, it is a different shop. Actually, is the shop RIGHT next door to the place I went to before and was shunned from. haha. It's like night and day between these two places for me.
    I gave the area of the location on NPK. There are 3 shops on this street that offer this type of service, well actually 2 because one of them is actually just a HJ-only type of place for some reason. Well from what I've experienced at least. As far as the exact number of the shop, I don't know, I haven't been there since my last report which was last year. What I can say is that when you drive down NPK from Dinh Tien Hoang, you will come to a T-intersection (there is no stop light or sign). At this point on the street on the right hand side you will see the 3 shops as described earlier. From my earlier post you will see that its the shop on the LEFT hand side of the 3 shops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camboblowshooter  [View Original Post]
    . To over six years experience in Saigon.

    You already have been asked by another member to pricesely submit. Exactly- the location of this place where these extraordinary things happened to you.

    But anyway, now we now this all is not true, just read alwayshard 45 his report. Whether you want to believe it is up to you. The board is not here to put each other down but to help one another. So come with this location Alwayshard.
    I believe I was only asked 1 time to provide more information as to where this location was, by JD, and I responded with adequate information. He had no complaints to the description of the location.

    If you've been here six years, how is it that you don't understand giving a girl at a massage place 50, 000vnd for an hour foot massage is not acceptable. There is a standard fee for services. The tip is the equivalent of the entry fee. Yes, you CAN get away with a LITTLE bit less, like give 150k tip if the house fee is 200k, but giving a girl 50, 000 with an entry fee of 150, 000 is generally not acceptable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camboblowshooter  [View Original Post]
    Just to counter the report, had a foot massage yesterday, ticket 150. 000, was good, tipped the girl 50. 000 which she immediately pushed back in my hand, gave me a big smile and followed me downstairs, oh boy, I knew what was going to come. The cashier; ohh, she no salary here, you have to tipp per 100. 000 bla bla bla, told her this was not going to happen and just paid her the 150. 000, after I turned and was straightforward kicked in the back. Believe it or not, as the massage girl was some 80 kilos lighter then myself, decided not to hit her, but.

    And you want the members of this board to believe your rediculous story? In Vietnam, where they are all soooo sick for money? Not in 1000 years from now pal.
    I find it harder to believe that a girl, probably 40 kgs would kick you in the back over a tip. But then again you did only offer her $2. 40 USD for an hour of her time. I can see her being angry and maybe saying bad things in VNese, but I don't understand why she would kick you. Unless you had promised her a certain amount and then was going back on your word.

    You say you seem to always have troubles in VN over money because they are all so money-crazed. Let me say this, I've been in VN for much longer than most people here, and in all my time I've had very little major problems over money in VN. Yes a few here and there and over small amounts. But in general, I don't have problems here. You have the right to your own opinion, believe or not, the other members who have been active in this forum for longer than January can vouch for the legitimacy of my reports. I try to be a contributing member of this forum and allow others to enjoy the same good experiences as me as well avoid the I've had problems.

    Good luck to you when you arrive in Vietnam.

  6. #688
    Quote Originally Posted by Alwayshard45  [View Original Post]
    Cambo: Sorry to hear about your bad experience and getting kicked in the back. Nobody deserves that, but a general rule of thumb in VN is that your tip for standard service at the massage places without extras is the price of the entry fee. 200k ticket + 200k tip. I believe thats standard, but I could be wrong. Better luck to you in the future.
    I've been reading the vietnam threads a lot lately because I plan on moving there by the end of March. I have every intention of visiting places and posting as much info as possible. Of course, being the new guy on the block that I'm going to be, please bear with me because I might begin with posts from places already covered (benny's, my tien, etc.) , but that's because I want to get my feet wet first (and dick) in places where I might know what to expect. You know. Baby steps.

    Cambo: sucks to get kicked, by ANYONE. Totally uncalled for. I hope that didn't happen to you at Benny's. Could you post exactly what place it was? I don't want to show up and get kicked on the way out. If you 'did' mention it, I didn't catch it.

  7. #687
    Quote Originally Posted by Muse Fan  [View Original Post]
    I was also trying to figure out the same thing.

    I think he meant to not believe what Alwayshard said about the 2 gals looking as if they weren't interested in the tip. I base that off of his bad experience with Cambo refers to in his post.

    Simply put, I think Cambo says not to believe AH's post because he just doesn't see that happening.
    Quote Originally Posted by Camboblowshooter  [View Original Post]
    . After I turned and was straightforward kicked in the back. Believe it or not, as the massage girl was some 80 kilos lighter then myself, decided not to hit her, but.

    And you want the members of this board to believe your rediculous story? In Vietnam, where they are all soooo sick for money? Not in 1000 years from now pal.
    I also thought the same thing as to what he was referring to, but I wasn't sure. Didn't want to jump to conclusions. Anyways, if you refer to any of my posts, everything I have written about has been factual and not exaggerated. If you don't believe that's fine with me.

    I also want to make it clear, I didn't walk out of there without tipping. I did leave a tip for all participants, all I stated was that only one of the girls stuck around to receive the tip for the group. They all share it. If you give 100k total for 5 girls when you walk out. They will divide it up 20k each. Of course you couldn't walk away with such a small amount. Tips at these places can be given to the girls directly or to the mamasan who in turn will pay out to the girls. So for the girls to walkaway without receiving their tip directly from me is not unusual. What is unusual is their general attitude towards the amount of the tip. They were very casual, no negotiation or asking for an absurd amount of money.

    Cambo: Sorry to hear about your bad experience and getting kicked in the back. Nobody deserves that, but a general rule of thumb in VN is that your tip for standard service at the massage places without extras is the price of the entry fee. 200k ticket + 200k tip. I believe thats standard, but I could be wrong. Better luck to you in the future.

  8. #686
    Quote Originally Posted by muse fan  [View Original Post]
    i was also trying to figure out the same thing.

    i think he meant to not believe what alwayshard said about the 2 gals looking as if they weren't interested in the tip. i base that off of his bad experience with cambo refers to in his post.

    simply put, i think cambo says not to believe ah's post because he just doesn't see that happening.

    please note: this is just what i gathered from reading and i'm not necessarilly saying that's exactly what cambo meant. i could be completely wrong.
    quote originally posted by alwayshard45 view post.

    unusual but delightful experience today. i was in the upper d1 area today and decided to swing by on the of the bngs on npk. everything started out normally, came into the shop (no pun intended) , walked upstairs and went through the usual motions. the girl however, after getting the necessary wet-wipes, completely undressed. keep in mind i have never seen this girl before. she cleaned me up and started with some foreplay, standard stuff, she kept wanting to do more foreplay. i was playing with her clit for quiet some time and she then laid next to me while i fingered her and sucked on her huge tits. we probably were there for about 20 minutes, as she must of been having a nice time and didn't want to stop. several other customers had come and gone.

    then the crazy comes. i peeked up for a moment as i felt a shadow or presence over me and noticed two other girls standing there watching. quiet a surprise. not sure why, but it felt a little embarrassing. i have seen one of the girls before but that was a few months ago. at that time i thought there was nothing special so i have never bothered to ask for her again. the two girls started laughing and my girl and i were kinda like "wtf?" but didn't say anything. they started to ask me questions like how am i doing and how much time do i have. finally they came out with it and asked if i wanted them to join the fun. i was quiet surprised at the offer. we all talked about it for awhile (never talked about money). we moved upstairs to a different room that was empty and locked the door. i ended up staying there for almost 2 hours with all 3 of them.

    after all the fun was finished and it was time to go, i asked how much they wanted. i really didn't care, i had a good time, but i was expecting some astronomical amount. they replied with "anything is fine". two of the girls left and didn't even stay around for their tip. their attitude was just so casual, as if money didn't matter. it was quiet strange, but nice to see. i got their info and i will definitely go back again to see these girls, when i have enough energy.

    this is actually the story i was referring to, it is contradictory.totally- to over six years experience in saigon. its mostly the same crap all the time all kinds of fake silly reason to get; tips; , first and foremost it is; no salary; . blablablabla, and then a story like this comes, where hoars suddenly don't want money! in vietnam!

    you already have been asked by another member to pricesely submit.exactly- the location of this place where these extraordinary things happened to you. as i will be back in saigon within the next three weeks, i would love to check it out, so please let the board know, and when i was wrong in my remarks.after finding this out on the spot whenever you submit the location- i will be the first to do the right thing here. believe me.

    if i had not have to be in saigon for particular reasons, would never ever go there, it is a fucking stinking rat hole, because i am sick and tired of the same old crap wherever you enter there, is it for sex, foot massage, too have your arse wiped or whatever, its almost always trouble for money. most can not stick to what they agree upon.

    but anyway, now we now this all is not true, just read alwayshard 45 his report. whether you want to believe it is up to you. the board is not here to put eachother down but to help one another. so come with this location alwayshard.

  9. #685
    I decided to give Hello, Spa a second chance even though there have been several posts about unsatisfactory visits. Got a great looking girl, early 20s, firm body and nice large tits. The girl is from is from the mountains but has very nice light skin. The massage was above standard, she has great strength and yet a nice soft touch as well. Afterwards, was asked if I wanted to full service and I agreed. But then she said we had to move to another room upstairs. I thought it was a bit odd, but maybe thats done because the room I was currently in is a shared room. But the after going upstairs the room as also another shared room. Not sure why the switch. Anyways, excellent body and skills, but no BJ was available. A little disappointed about that.

    At these spots it seems impossible to get a BJ. Its either all or nothing. Not sure what the deal is, I guess they just want to ensure getting the larger tip rather than take less.

    Overall nice experience, would see her specifically again. About the place in general. The girls there mostly seem to be older, like 30s. Some were ok and some other not my cup of tea. There are a few diamonds in the rough though, like the one that I had. I didn't have my camera so no pics. Sorry guys.

  10. #684
    Quote Originally Posted by Alwayshard45  [View Original Post]
    Not quiet sure what you are referring too here. You don't believe your own story or something someone else posted?
    I was also trying to figure out the same thing.

    I think he meant to not believe what Alwayshard said about the 2 gals looking as if they weren't interested in the tip. I base that off of his bad experience with Cambo refers to in his post.

    Simply put, I think Cambo says not to believe AH's post because he just doesn't see that happening.

    PLEASE NOTE: This is just what I gathered from reading and I'm not necessarilly saying that's exactly what Cambo meant. I could be completely wrong.

  11. #683
    Quote Originally Posted by Camboblowshooter  [View Original Post]
    I left Saigon today and don't believe one word of this story.

    And you want the members of this board to believe your rediculous story? In Vietnam, where they are all soooo sick for money? Not in 1000 years from now pal.
    Not quiet sure what you are referring too here. You don't believe your own story or something someone else posted?

  12. #682

    Don't believe a word of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loverboat  [View Original Post]
    Hi bro, where exactly is this place in D1?
    I left Saigon today and don't believe one word of this story. Went to the infamous John Dao his shop again yesterday.and the week before, no problems there with the papasan for more then 200. 000 ticket. Good service. Thanks again John for the location, just for the info, the motos start to know me a bit now where I am going from district one to district 7 and price go and come is now 40. 000, (60. 000 before)

    Just to counter the report, had a foot massage yesterday, ticket 150. 000, was good, tipped the girl 50. 000 which she immediately pushed back in my hand, gave me a big smile and followed me downstairs, oh boy, I knew what was going to come. The cashier; ohh, she no salary here, you have to tipp per 100. 000 bla bla bla, told her this was not going to happen and just paid her the 150. 000, after I turned and was straightforward kicked in the back. Believe it or not, as the massage girl was some 80 kilos lighter then myself, decided not to hit her, but.

    And you want the members of this board to believe your rediculous story? In Vietnam, where they are all soooo sick for money? Not in 1000 years from now pal.

  13. #681

    Benny Hot Toc

    It's my first experience at Benny's and my first at a Hot Toc joints and I must say the experience is good! The lady who was her turn who served my, in her mid twenties, good attitude, took her time to give me a facial clean up and some so-call "massage" before we proceed to the deed. Well its nothing exceptional to shout for but I find that she is not the rushy pushy type and even offered a 2nd round as I didn't last too long in the first. Paid my dues in standards and left the place happy.

    Thank you for the recommendation here bros.

  14. #680
    Quote Originally Posted by alwayshard45  [View Original Post]
    unusual but delightful experience today. i was in the upper d1 area today and decided to swing by on the of the bngs on npk. everything started out normally, came into the shop (no pun intended) , walked upstairs and went through the usual motions. the girl however, after getting the necessary wet-wipes, completely undressed. keep in mind i have never seen this girl before. she cleaned me up and started with some foreplay, standard stuff, she kept wanting to do more foreplay. i was playing with her clit for quiet some time and she then laid next to me while i fingered her and sucked on her huge tits. we probably were there for about 20 minutes, as she must of been having a nice time and didn't want to stop. several other customers had come and gone.

    then the crazy comes. i peeked up for a moment as i felt a shadow or presence over me and noticed two other girls standing there watching. quiet a surprise. not sure why, but it felt a little embarrassing. i have seen one of the girls before but that was a few months ago. at that time i thought there was nothing special so i have never bothered to ask for her again. the two girls started laughing and my girl and i were kinda like "wtf?" but didn't say anything. they started to ask me questions like how am i doing and how much time do i have. finally they came out with it and asked if i wanted them to join the fun. i was quiet surprised at the offer. we all talked about it for awhile (never talked about money). we moved upstairs to a different room that was empty and locked the door. i ended up staying there for almost 2 hours with all 3 of them.

    after all the fun was finished and it was time to go, i asked how much they wanted. i really didn't care, i had a good time, but i was expecting some astronomical amount. they replied with "anything is fine". two of the girls left and didn't even stay around for their tip. their attitude was just so casual, as if money didn't matter. it was quiet strange, but nice to see. i got their info and i will definitely go back again to see these girls, when i have enough energy.
    hi bro, where exactly is this place in d1?

  15. #679

    Luck and Hello,

    Could someone please tell me the address for Luck spa and Hello, spa. I just arrived in HCM and would love to visit these spas.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lithgo  [View Original Post]
    After a couple of unsatisfactory sessions at Hello, I wasn't so keen on trying again. Although I like the setup as it fits my requirements to be quick, simple, discreet and available during the day. It is quite a lot more expensive than other options. Not an issue for me as I usually only punt a couple of times a month.

    This time round I went for another similar establishment nearby. Lucky. Went in about midday and it looked like most of the girls were not working yet even though they say on the door they are open from 9am. Initially there was two girls available. Both OK but not fantastic, one had an awsome bubble butt and didn't look more than 20 but didn't quite press my buttons. After a bit of a wait another girl came downstairs. This one was mid-20's very petite and quite cute.

    Off to the room which was quite a bit bigger than the ones at Hello, and also had an attached rather than shared bathroom. Good session, not much massage just lots of foreplay leading up the finale. Only disappointment was she didn't offer BBBJ. Only covered. FS was also available and she had a very lovely looking "chim" definately have to go back to sample that.

    Gave her the std tip as mentioned here and no complaints. Another good thing with these PNH places. Prices seem standardised.

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