Ho Chi Minh City - Bars and Clubs

[AmericanThief]

Thanks for you reply man.

She was asking for about $150ST and $300 LT in Shanghai. That's the going rate for VN girls at the bars there.

This is why the real lookers, the hotties, the most attractive Vietnamese girls can't be found. They all go abroad to work. So if you want a real hot vietnamese girl, go to Singapore, Shanghai or Macau. Here in vietnam I get the left over Mekong Delta girls.

Ran into more fake booze last night. Fake Jack Daniels at 159. Talked to the owner and he got me a real bottle. Cheers to him as he didn't know, or did he? Happy New Year of the horned animal!

[Uncle Volodya]

Yeah, I think she will take it. Its more than generous. That's more than some guys pay for one month. This is up to you and what you're after. Since you know her already.

In my experience working girls here don't do LT. They do overnight and dart out the door at sunrise. However, non pros will do LT. They call it "taking care". Another member just did this. I think he paid like $600 and now she's his girlfriend, which is sort of what he wanted anyway. I'm sure she will continue asking for money, and that's up to him, but don't be too surprised if she becomes aloof or maybe tries to renegotiate. She might not want to spend every minute with your for one whole week, or her mother will suddenly get sick and she'll need money to buy medicine and have to go back to her hometown ASAP.

Having said that, if you're planning on staying in nice hotels and traveling around a lot and offer to pick up all expenses then those perks could influence her.

If she doesn't go for it you'll have no problem finding company. You could have 2 sessions a day on that budget, I'm just saying an afternoon BJ and an evening FS if things don't work out for the same amount.

Thanks for you reply man.

She was asking for about $150ST and $300 LT in Shanghai. That's the going rate for VN girls at the bars there. So $700 is a discount. But hopefully she'll go for it.

[AmericanThief]

I am thinking of offering her 700 USD to spend the week with me.

Yeah, I think she will take it. Its more than generous. That's more than some guys pay for one month. This is up to you and what you're after. Since you know her already.

In my experience working girls here don't do LT. They do overnight and dart out the door at sunrise. However, non pros will do LT. They call it "taking care". Another member just did this. I think he paid like $600 and now she's his girlfriend, which is sort of what he wanted anyway. I'm sure she will continue asking for money, and that's up to him, but don't be too surprised if she becomes aloof or maybe tries to renegotiate. She might not want to spend every minute with your for one whole week, or her mother will suddenly get sick and she'll need money to buy medicine and have to go back to her hometown ASAP.

Having said that, if you're planning on staying in nice hotels and traveling around a lot and offer to pick up all expenses then those perks could influence her.

If she doesn't go for it you'll have no problem finding company. You could have 2 sessions a day on that budget, I'm just saying an afternoon BJ and an evening FS if things don't work out for the same amount.

[JD468]

I am thinking of offering her 700 USD to spend the week with me. We hit it off pretty well while I was in Shanghai and I took her 3 different times, 2ST and 2 LT. Do you think she'll go for it?

That is 15,000,000 VND, she should be ripping your hand off for that kind of money in Saigon.

Last week I took a bird ST from Apo, she flew in from Shanghai that evening (she still had her passport and Yuan on her). I offered her 1,200,000 and we did ST at her place, which was quite good. Now I am sure that she would have barked at $55 USD in Manhattan bar in Shanghai only 24 hours earlier, but I think these girls know that they will never get the kind of cash in HCM as they command in Singapore or Shanghai. So don't worry that $700 is low balling her, she may pout for 1 minute if she thinks she can squeeze more out of you but I guarantee you that she will not decline.

[Uncle Volodya]

Living in Asia about ten years and I've experienced a lot of racists ignorant shit myself. Always reminded that I'm a foreigner, far ang, waygooki, gaijin by the natives, So I don't care what you call the Japanese people. This isn't like back home.

Having said that Vietnam is the only country in Asia where I feel like I'm accepted. The other countries I was reminded everyday through micro aggressions that I am a foreigner, so this is one of the very few things I like about Vietnam. But lets not turn this thread into a racial debate. Get back to the girls.

I hit up voodoo, chilis, Ikandy and wonder bar tonight. Pretty fucking boring unless you just want to drink and speak english with staff otherwise no love. I do enjoy seeing the Desparado girls and tonight she was working alone and looked like a newbie so my buds and I threw some negs around her and had a little fun. The girls at 159 look bored but I didn't go inside. Tired.

Oh here is that girl from my earlier post from behind you can really see her sexy body.

Thanks for the pic man. Bod is damn fine. Sorry to hear she was a dud in the sack, though.

I hope to be hanging out with a girl I met working the bars in Shanghai and does the SE Asia route: Shanghai, Singapore, HK. She's nor sure she will be in town during my trip. I think she is just trying to get me to promise her money. Fair enough. I am thinking of offering her 700 USD to spend the week with me. We hit it off pretty well while I was in Shanghai and I took her 3 different times, 2ST and 2 LT. Do you think she'll go for it?

[AmericanThief]

Living in Asia about ten years and I've experienced a lot of racists ignorant shit myself. Always reminded that I'm a foreigner, far ang, waygooki, gaijin by the natives, So I don't care what you call the Japanese people. This isn't like back home.

Having said that Vietnam is the only country in Asia where I feel like I'm accepted. The other countries I was reminded everyday through micro aggressions that I am a foreigner, so this is one of the very few things I like about Vietnam. But lets not turn this thread into a racial debate. Get back to the girls.

I hit up voodoo, chilis, Ikandy and wonder bar tonight. Pretty fucking boring unless you just want to drink and speak english with staff otherwise no love. I do enjoy seeing the Desparado girls and tonight she was working alone and looked like a newbie so my buds and I threw some negs around her and had a little fun. The girls at 159 look bored but I didn't go inside. Tired.

Oh here is that girl from my earlier post from behind you can really see her sexy body.

[Uncle Volodya]

I don't know why I get an error message upload of file failed. The best shots of her outside walking won't load.

Thanks for the report bro. Your pics probably won't upload because they are too big. Try resizing them.

I'd be very interesting in seeing them as I will be in HCM in May for a first time trip.

Good luck!

You-V.

[AmericanThief]

So I discovered this girl a few months back at a bar on BV. She is smoking hot and only 20 years old. I asked her about ST and she wanted to bring her friend. I'm no into buckteeth girls so I declined and opted to get drunk. Expensive but she does a good job at hosting.

No I'm off for TET and decided to go back and have a go with her. I ate some Kama gel, and damn that shit works fast. I think I peaked before leaving home. Anyway, I get to the bar early to make sure she's available, buy her a drink and off to the hotel.

Oh, she wanted the money up front. Big bright red flag. Any girl asking for money upfront is a set up. So my gut tells me to forget it, and bail out now. This girl is a scammer, but when I tell her I no longer want to go ST she says just the hotel money now.

"I buy hotel for you. " Was it a misunderstanding or was she trying to save this deal? I'll never know.

At the hotel before we even shower she tries to butter me up with all this darling talk and saying how she's working through TET and wants to see me everyday. Bullshit. I undress to shower and she starts complaining right away about my size.

This goes on while I shower and she showers. Slow slow, you so big bull shit. I get a BBBJ from her, not so good. Condom on and some lub on the vagina and I'm in. Slow slow, oh too big big she continues to complain. Her boobs are a lot smaller than I expected too.

Still has nice white skin and very slim so its not bad but not great. She rushes me, I have to repeatedly tell her to shut up and fuck me. All in all I'll never barfine her again. Now I know. I fucked a hottie, but wasn't worth it. 1. 3 million to her and 740,000 to the bar for BF and drinks. So a $100 in all. Terrible deal.

I don't know why I get an error message upload of file failed. The best shots of her outside walking won't load.

[Neurosynth]

Jsxyz. Nips short for Nippon. No malicious intent. But please don't be so pompous or pretentious. Maybe only racists have their radar on alert for anything to cry foul over. Not everyone has succumbed to the social engineering that has the West by the balls. Ie. Get over it.

I'll believe that you believe that the term "nips" isn't racist when you repeatedly use the term to their face.

[ChelseaBill]

"Nips"? Really? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume benevolent ignornance, but that's an extremely racist term in US English on par with "n%gger".

Jsxyz. Nips short for Nippon. No malicious intent. But please don't be so pompous or pretentious. Maybe only racists have their radar on alert for anything to cry foul over. Not everyone has succumbed to the social engineering that has the West by the balls. Ie. Get over it.

[Jsxyz]

AmericanThief,

I have just received an initial job offer from the Nips to come and bail them out of the sh*t on the subway. I anticipate leaving the dusts of Abu Dhabi in a month or two.

I'm looking forward to 'exploring' Saigon. I spent a week last year assisting the Nips in Hanoi, lived in BKK for 6 yrs. But never patrolled Saigon!

I'll let you know what and where the (not so) honourably Nips do and go.

Kindest regards,

Bill.

"Nips"? Really? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume benevolent ignorance, but that's an extremely racist term.

[ChelseaBill]

AmericanThief,

I have just received an initial job offer from the Nips to come and bail them out of the sh*t on the subway. I anticipate leaving the dusts of Abu Dhabi in a month or two.

I'm looking forward to 'exploring' Saigon. I spent a week last year assisting the Nips in Hanoi, lived in BKK for 6 yrs. But never patrolled Saigon!

I'll let you know what and where the (not so) honourably Nips do and go.

Kindest regards,

Bill.

The Japanese are building the subway. They also keep a low profile, and spend a lot of money and have connections.

And you know how most Anglos are in this country.

[Sean EZ]

Are there any large dance clubs in Saigon? Googling it doesn't seem to help. Any websites like or similar to 1000 bars the one in Jakarta? Thanks.

[The Pro]

King Coconut is on Thi Sach just off of LE Thanh Ton near a couple of the Japanese bars and a legit massage place. It's known to be the most aggressive bar out there in terms of squeezing cash out of customers, padding bills, etc and also forwardness of the girls.

One you missed was Smiley bar, on Thai Van Lung up a ways from Apocalypse Now.

The one on the street where 2 Sisters was located (recently closed) (that's Dong Du street) was awful the 2 times I poked my head in. Old girls who should be retired from that business.

Bin Bin changed its name and I also can't remember what it's called now. Midnight something, I think. Girl quality has been down there for awhile, which is true for all these bars. Sometimes a clampdown with a few bars results in the cute ones all being filtered down to fewer bars, so better quality in fewer places, no need to go around to many bars in hopes of finding a good one. Not this time. Seems to have had the opposite effect and chased away all the cute ones, and I do mean all. I"m not seeing any over a 6 these days, in any bar...

Smiley Bar and King Coconut are run by the same lady.

There is Miss Saigon bar, which is the Japanese quadrangle just up from Smiley Bar.

Plenty of girls using WeChat, but be careful of those who are offering massage in their profiles or who seem too forward, lots of pimps use WeChat to find customers for their girls. Always do a VDO call on WeChat, if they refuse then you know its a pimp.

As a rule of thumb in District 1, for the massage places, FS when offered is 500 K tip, BJ is 200 K tip. Some of the places the girls will start at 1 M for a BJ / HJ and negotiate down to 500 K but that's far too much. There are plenty of places where 500 K for FS is OK. Around the main roads in D1 the girls always try to get higher prices, so its worthwhile going down the backstreets and trying places away from main roads. Where possible always use the places where girls are hanging around outside. These are more likely to have happy endings. Where no girl / girls are outside these are more likely to be proper spa where special is not offered.

HCM is certainly not as good as it used to be on the bar front. The loss of all the number bars on HBT is a blow to the fun of the place. But its still fun, just needs more effort now in finding good massage places or finding horny girls on WeChat or Zalo (Zalo is a local Vietnamese version of messaging, like WeChat).

[AmericanThief]

Just occurred to me, why no clampdown on the Japanese places? The westerner-oriented bars have been nearly wiped out, while the Japanese ones are more numerous than ever.

The Japanese are building the subway. They also keep a low profile, and spend a lot of money and have connections.

And you know how most Anglos are in this country.