Bangkok Reports

[Nullnull]

There are good Thai girls in Germany too.

Agreed! Lots of them!

Where to find them? Please report in the Germany section!

Well, there have been some exceptional Thai beauties in Berlin 2-3 years ago, but it seems they are all gone now.

[HotShaneHot]

Next day at the beer garden soi 7 Bangkok.

Got this lady at about 11:00 am.

I can not recommend her.

Soon as we back to the room it was down from 2 pops to 1.

And more thai bart.

I just pay her so she can leave.

[HotShaneHot]

From the Beer Garden soi 7 Bangkok

[Sponsor74]

When you walk down sukhumvit and ask how much that t-shirt is from the vendor and he says 500b, do you you pay 500b? Of course not! The t-shirt is only worth about 150b maybe less. You haggle down the price to something that is more reasonable. Or do you get into a parked taxi outside of a hotel who quotes you some inflated price? Of course not, you wave down a moving taxi who turns the meter on.

Many guys don't understand that the Nana Cowboy scene is geared mainly to tourists who no nothing about pricing. If you've scene the scope of the sex industry in LOS all the way from cheap brothels to high end massage parlors, you'd understand that the quality that is found in Nana and Cowboy is overpriced at 2k for one pop / one hour plus a barfine. Most of the same quality of girls can be found in establishments geared mainly to thais at a fraction of that price. Most, if not all, thais wouldn't pay 2k ST for the same quality that tourists pay in Nana or cowboy. Thais understand that most tourists are ignorant and they exploit it. It's the Thai way!

Hello, Amjeck, agree with you and I am one of these "tourist" paying these prices in Nana even if I know the "taxis" and "T-shirt" prices there. The reason is mainly my lack of time and take "quick decisions" and girls there in Nana or around. Thermae cafe seems to be more for Non Pro or girls with a job and looking for some extra money (maybe I am wrong?) ; therefore, it would be nice your advices for these places you know where I can get more "value" for my mney. Thans in advancnon for your suggestions with locations and prices of these places non over priced you ay know.

[HotShaneHot]

Beer garden later that night.

[JerseyShoreSun]

The night I was there, I saw only two other customers in Kiss. Of course, I was there only 10 minutes. But I've never read any reports that indicate the Arab's bars have more than a handful of customers. By contrast, I've seen Tilac and Baccara so full with customers you couldn't find a seat.

Evil

Maybe that's why they have to resort to the tactics that NB refered to in his post. I for sure will be staying far away from these my next trip to BKK. Thanks NB for the headsup!

[Goatscrot]

I love how you free market capitalists think. LOL.

If lots of girls are getting 2k its not VERY OVERpriced is it. Be happy the girls arent factoring inflation, over the past 7 years the prices have remained quite constant while the price of rice has gone up quite a bit.

? The price have soared over the last 7 years. 7 years ago any gal in Cowboy or Nana would have gone for 1k short and 1. 5 k long.

[Goatscrot]

When you walk down sukhumvit and ask how much that t-shirt is from the vendor and he says 500b, do you you pay 500b? Of course not! The t-shirt is only worth about 150b maybe less. You haggle down the price to something that is more reasonable. Or do you get into a parked taxi outside of a hotel who quotes you some inflated price? Of course not, you wave down a moving taxi who turns the meter on.

Many guys don't understand that the Nana Cowboy scene is geared mainly to tourists who no nothing about pricing. If you've scene the scope of the sex industry in LOS all the way from cheap brothels to high end massage parlors, you'd understand that the quality that is found in Nana and Cowboy is overpriced at 2k for one pop / one hour plus a barfine. Most of the same quality of girls can be found in establishments geared mainly to thais at a fraction of that price. Most, if not all, thais wouldn't pay 2k ST for the same quality that tourists pay in Nana or cowboy. Thais understand that most tourists are ignorant and they exploit it. It's the Thai way!

So true so true. Most Thais would not go near a girl that had Soi Cowboy type looks. The longer I am here the less attractive I find them as well. 2000 plus barfine plus drinks, that would get you a VERY nice soapy gal that would be attractive.

[HotShaneHot]

Hi got this nice lady from the beer garden s / t 1, 500

[Kiwi 69]

Germany is sex paradise. You.

There are good Thai girls in Germany too.

Agreed! Lots of them!

[Amjeck]

I love how you free market capitalists think. LOL.

If lots of girls are getting 2k its not VERY OVERpriced is it. Be happy the girls arent factoring inflation, over the past 7 years the prices have remained quite constant while the price of rice has gone up quite a bit.

When you walk down sukhumvit and ask how much that t-shirt is from the vendor and he says 500b, do you you pay 500b? Of course not! The t-shirt is only worth about 150b maybe less. You haggle down the price to something that is more reasonable. Or do you get into a parked taxi outside of a hotel who quotes you some inflated price? Of course not, you wave down a moving taxi who turns the meter on.

Many guys don't understand that the Nana Cowboy scene is geared mainly to tourists who no nothing about pricing. If you've scene the scope of the sex industry in LOS all the way from cheap brothels to high end massage parlors, you'd understand that the quality that is found in Nana and Cowboy is overpriced at 2k for one pop / one hour plus a barfine. Most of the same quality of girls can be found in establishments geared mainly to thais at a fraction of that price. Most, if not all, thais wouldn't pay 2k ST for the same quality that tourists pay in Nana or cowboy. Thais understand that most tourists are ignorant and they exploit it. It's the Thai way!

[Evil Penivel]

Question: Do these Coyote bars: Kiss, Sahara, Spice Girls, Deja Vu, Midnight and Rio ever get a lot of customers or is it always slow over there? I am going to make a note of that when I get back to Cowboy in February.

The night I was there, I saw only two other customers in Kiss. Of course, I was there only 10 minutes. But I've never read any reports that indicate the Arab's bars have more than a handful of customers. By contrast, I've seen Tilac and Baccara so full with customers you couldn't find a seat.

Evil

[Mealticket]

Bottom line: avoid the Arab's bars. Nothing good can happen there.

Evil

Well said.

[Member #4698]

Great reporting E. P. Sounds like you almost deserved hazard pay while checking out Kiss Bar, but I think you handled the situation well. I generally don't like to endorse the concept of a boycott, but I have to admit I wouldn't mind if this guy lost enough money to throw in the towel and sell his bars to someone with a more accommodating business plan.

I dropped by Sahara one time when I was last on Cowboy. It was very early in the evening and I was just trying to kill 30 minutes before meeting up with a cute girl from Baccara that I had made a date with the previous evening. I was curious about Sahara bar's approach and the whole coyote dancer thing. It was very early and I was the only guy in the bar so I did not get much insight. The bar was playing decent rock – a plus. I bought a beer and a couple of the girls on stage gave me the look. One not so cute girl sat down next to me and immediately started hitting me up for a drink. I was not interested in her so I was not buying her anything, but I remained cordial and aloof as I drank my beer. My main interest was trying to see if I could tell the difference between the regular bar girls and the Coyotes and except for the costume, I could not see much of a difference. After about 20 minutes, it was time to go and I went across the street to find my little go go girl. I was still the only customer in Sahara when I left. No one gave me a hard time, the music was good, and the girls were on the whole, pretty average. The bottom line for me was I just don't feel like spending my money in a bar where a certain percentage of girls are not available for takeout. This is Soi Cowboy, Bangkok not Des Moines, Iowa.

What a difference across the street in Baccara. B was already jumping (8:30pm) with a ton of girls on stage and lots of customers. Some knock it, but I like Baccara. Anyway, I spotted the girl I had planned to meet. She was at a table with some Korean guy who had bought her a drink. A waitress who knew me guided me over to a booth to the right of the stage. I ordered a beer and started to check out the girls on stage. I glanced over to the table where my go go girl and the Korean guy were sitting. She smiled at me. A few minutes later the Korean got up, paid his bill and left the bar alone. Then my little girl came over to my table and the rest of the night was very good.

Question: Do these Coyote bars: Kiss, Sahara, Spice Girls, Deja Vu, Midnight and Rio ever get a lot of customers or is it always slow over there? I am going to make a note of that when I get back to Cowboy in February.

[Evil Penivel]

Kiss is one of the Arab's bars. (Yes, I know he's Iranian but his nickname is "the Arab.") His bars on Soi Cowboy. Are usually bad news, and I mean really BAD news. Dean Barrett has warned about them here. The bars are Kiss, Sahara, Spice Girls, Deja Vu, Midnight and Rio. The Arab acquired Rawhide a few months ago and the old staff has moved to Long Gun, but I'm not sure what it has become under the Arab's rule.

Stickman has also written about the Arab's operations. But I have a hard time putting myself behind recommendations to boycott a business if I haven't had personal experience with it. So in July I went into Kiss on Soi Cowboy expecting a bad situation and that's what I got.

A San Miguel Light cost 180 baht, which is the most I can recall ever paying for a bottled beer in any go go or coyote bar in LOS. From the second I stepped in, there was extreme pressure to buy LDs, which went at a whopping 270 baht. Since I knew this would happen, I simply steeled myself and said "no" to the steady stream of dancers that asked for drinks.

Far worse were the two old hag mama-sans who also demanded (they didn't just ask, they demanded) drinks. I swear one minute didn't go by without someone asking or telling me to buy drinks.

At Kiss, there were two groups of dancers: coyotes and ordinary dancers, distinguished by different costumes. Apparently the dancers (at least some of them) can be barfined, the coyotees can't. The dancers (in bikinis) didn't look better or worse than the line-up in any other bar on Cowboy or Nana or in Pattaya, but the coyote line-up did indeed have a couple of good-looking girls. One of them started playing to me personally. That wasn't hard to do, since I was one of three customers in the bar at the time.

The young lady danced very well and had a seductive come-one from the stage. In any other bar, that would have been enough for me to buy her a drink. I know she's acting. That's her job. But she was acting well enough to get a drink. However, I didn't want to put one extra baht in the pocket of the Arab, so I called "chek bin." One of the mama-sans immediately began berating me with,"Why you no buy lady drink," but I kept my cool and just smiled. No point in arguing with her and I was out only 180 baht (I didn't leave a tip).

However, I thought the coyotee dancer deserved some reward, at least a token in recognition of her sexy demeanor, so I tossed her a miniature teddy bear as I walked out. That's when an already bad situation took a turn for the worse. The two old hags demanded I also give them bears. I was tempted to answer,"I wouldn't give you the sweat off my balls if you were dying of thirst," but again I smiled and just said I didn't have any more (which was true).

This final encounter with the wicked witch of Soi Cowboy took place while I was walking out of Kiss and I kept moving the whole time. But just outside of Kiss, the mama-san blocked my forward progress. Immediately the door staff closed ranks behind her. She demanded very forcibly that I give her something. Push had come to shove, at least verbally.

I knew I couldn't get past the mama-san and the slightest sign of aggression would have been met with a beat-down from the bouncers. I maintained my smile and answered that I nothing to give her. She didn't step aside and I wondered how long she intended to hold me hostage. Some intensive conversation took place between the bouncers and the mama-san and I imagined they were asking her what I had done and if I should get a clobbering. Perhaps they thought a stalemate just outside the entrance was a pretty silly situation.

I then decided to get creative. A group of farang were passing by in the middle of the soi. I waved and called out to them,"Wait for me, I'll be with you in a second." They didn't know me from Adam, but they responded to the shout-out and wave by stopping. The mama-san and door staff turned to see what was happening and at that point, I slipped past them into the soi. I was praying to all gods known and unknown that I wouldn't get a punch to the back of my head. Even as I moved into the flow of the pedestrian traffic, I half expected to hear running feet behind me.

But nothing happened. The friendly but startled farangs to which I had called didn't speak much English and were even more confused when I told them,"Sorry, I mistook you for a cavalry detachment." I was very lucky they passed by at just that second.

So if you're considering a visit to one of the Arab's bars, remember you're not in Kansas anymore, Toto. A house isn't going to drop on one of the Arab's wicked witches and I doubt even a bucket of carbolic acid would have an effect on their reptile hides.

Bottom line: avoid the Arab's bars. Nothing good can happen there.

Evil