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  1. #52965

    Nana Plaza Short Time Rooms

    11Bravo: First, in 30 years, I've never known any bar in Nana to have rooms.
    Maybe the OP was thinking about the short time rooms in 2-3 places on the premises of Nana Plaza, which are still there but have not reopened since the initial Covid closures.

    They are not inside any Nana Plaza go-go bar but either down a few doors or upstairs on the next level, 2nd or 3rd level of Nana Plaza. Girls in the bars who wanted their customer to do a quick ST with them would sometimes point up to the next level and say "go to room."

    But in no case that I am aware of was the room included in the deal unless the 350 baht or so cost was simply factored into the negotiation. But somebody, either the girl or the customer, was going to have to fork over 350 baht to the clerk at the desk before going into a room.

    1-2 of the places inside Nana Plaza had decent rooms. The third one closer to the Mandarin side as I recall was abysmal.

  2. #52964
    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo  [View Original Post]
    First and foremost, Mr. Blue Nose gives some excellent advice. You might check out his other posts; simply click on his handle to the left of one of his posts, and in the pop-up, click on View Forum Posts. Good info there. Also check out the ROD's (reports of distinction) thread and good info there. Some of my own pointers:

    Whenever I order a drink, I ask the price first, and I expect the chit to be dropped in that little cup sitting in front of me. I always check to see that the bill is what I expect, and when I say "check bin", I've already done the mental math, with a mental accounting of everything I've had (and it's never all that much). Any discrepancies, "Get the Mamasan". An old school trick: initial each chit, and if the total is greater than what you expect, ask for each chit back for proof.

    Likewise, I DON'T buy all that many lady drinks, solar eclipse, lunar eclipse, etc. BEFORE I do, I ask the price, what it is, and specify THAT when saying OK. Once again, I check the chit. And again, any discrepancies, "Mamasan". Besides RTFF, UTFSE, I have NO hesitation of calling "BS".

    The rip-offs assume a mark will be quiet; quiet I'm not. I don't get angry, just a matter of fact, "NO. " Also, "MY oww" (the last is what you say when you hurt yourself), which gets translated as "No, I don't want". I'm sure someone can provide a better translation, but it works for me. Speak quickly, silence signals acceptance.

    I don't find fault of a bar asking a customer to buy one drink; it's a bar, not a brothel. But any more than that, and those are the bars I say "My Oww, thank you" and leave.

    First, in 30 years, I've never known any bar in Nana to have rooms. Now I haven't been in every one, but .... Second, now I know plenty of Nana bars where 1500 works. Plenty. Only trouble is, you need to find Mr. Peabody, his boy Sherman, and set the Wayback machine to 1996. Third, it sounds TO ME like you are mixing up Pattaya's airhead bars with Nana (and Cowboy) agogo's, Night and day. Finally, it's capitalism. What's sad is that you're upset that they aren't charging you the price YOU want rather than the price THEY want. That's 1st world arrogance.

    As I said above, it's not Pattaya, and it's not a brothel. My MO: quick glance to see what the vibe is, the girls on stage look like (yes, it's one shift) but it works as a sample. If OK, I buy a beer. If not, walk. I don't come to the bars to drink, I come to find an evening's entertainment.

    ONE simple word, "NO", or, in Thai, "MY". Now, I can NEVER get the tone right, but by my expression, EVERYONE knows I'm saying NO, not "new".

    AGAIN, check the thread, BIG difference between Bangkok and Pattaya. I can recall plenty of Pattaya posts of 1000/1500, but I can't recall ANY in a Bangkok club.

    It's THAIland, Thai is THE language. Why can't you speak it? I'd say your problem is with google translate, NOT with the girl, and there ARE dialects here, I wouldn't expect Google to handle everything. And some of the best times I've had are with those where the language difference was large; just make it fun in trying to communicate. I'm always thankful I can't speak Thai; otherwise I'd be hearing her saying "WTF is this IDIOT trying to say?"

    Glad to help out. Pattaya, and look for Mr. Peabody ....

    Then catch a flight there. One thing I've learned in 30 years as an ex-pat, I NEVER compare Place A with Place B. They are different, and happy they are, otherwise, it'd be boring. And one thing I don't compare is prices. A box of Frosty Flakes is $3 at home, $10 someplace else, but if I want Frosty Flakes, I pay. Otherwise, you just wind up unhappy.

    The other thing I strongly suggest is a change of attitude. The girls are very astute, the ones I know, anyway. You come in with an arrogant, condescending attitude, they readily pick up on that. There was an interesting post on the Pattaya thread about an American bidding on a girl like cattle, and he didn't place the winning bid. But another, who treated her as a person, did, at a lot lower.

    Don't allow yourself to be a mark. If you're being ripped off, say something. From what Stick says, in some Cowboy bars, it's become a thing. But others, not. The Arab's bars there do have a rep.

    And there used to be a very descent short time hotel on Soi 7/1, to the left, fairly close to Sukhumvit. I used to use from Beer Garden pulls, legit hotel with ST rooms. Beer Garten, at least in November, afternoons, was a SAD affair; hopefully it will pick up.

    There are MANY who have fun in Thailand, some won't. Personally, as I've said again and again, I just ask myself what is HER experience worth to me THAT night. If she says yes, off we go. If no, then I move on. But if you're CONSTANTLY being turned down, then it might be time to reevaluate your pricing structure / expectations. TIT.
    Nice and succinctly said. Bravo (11). !

  3. #52963
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendelo  [View Original Post]
    I am one of those half dozen that have met TGT. I consider him a trusted friend who has taken the time to mentor me.

    I had a long term and long distance relationship with a Hong Kong girl that ended a few years ago. I am Asian. But Thai culture is a different animal. And with TGT's coaching, I am working on a relationship with a wonderful young mother in Isaan. A goal I've had for a while.
    Thanks Vendelho.

  4. #52962
    First and foremost, Mr. Blue Nose gives some excellent advice. You might check out his other posts; simply click on his handle to the left of one of his posts, and in the pop-up, click on View Forum Posts. Good info there. Also check out the ROD's (reports of distinction) thread and good info there. Some of my own pointers:

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkZ  [View Original Post]
    3 bars ripped me off on drinks, put 3 drinks on from another girl and another charged 1500 baht for 1 girls coke and vodka.
    Whenever I order a drink, I ask the price first, and I expect the chit to be dropped in that little cup sitting in front of me. I always check to see that the bill is what I expect, and when I say "check bin", I've already done the mental math, with a mental accounting of everything I've had (and it's never all that much). Any discrepancies, "Get the Mamasan". An old school trick: initial each chit, and if the total is greater than what you expect, ask for each chit back for proof.

    Likewise, I DON'T buy all that many lady drinks, solar eclipse, lunar eclipse, etc. BEFORE I do, I ask the price, what it is, and specify THAT when saying OK. Once again, I check the chit. And again, any discrepancies, "Mamasan". Besides RTFF, UTFSE, I have NO hesitation of calling "BS".

    The rip-offs assume a mark will be quiet; quiet I'm not. I don't get angry, just a matter of fact, "NO. " Also, "MY oww" (the last is what you say when you hurt yourself), which gets translated as "No, I don't want". I'm sure someone can provide a better translation, but it works for me. Speak quickly, silence signals acceptance.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkZ  [View Original Post]
    2 bars said I had to buy drinks 1st to even discuss prices I continued to ask 3 time to no avail.
    I don't find fault of a bar asking a customer to buy one drink; it's a bar, not a brothel. But any more than that, and those are the bars I say "My Oww, thank you" and leave.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkZ  [View Original Post]
    Not one bar said they have rooms, I had to supply the hotel and only 1 girl mentioned a hotel right down the street for 1 hour.
    Of the girls that said yes to boom boom all of them quoted me 4000 baht + hotel room + bar fee of 1000 baht. Total they were seeking 5400 baht.
    I countered with 1500 . Then just a little bit more. Nope. Girls would rather make Zero than great cash. Sad.
    So no I aint paying usa / Canada rates when traveling to 3rd world countries.
    First, in 30 years, I've never known any bar in Nana to have rooms. Now I haven't been in every one, but .... Second, now I know plenty of Nana bars where 1500 works. Plenty. Only trouble is, you need to find Mr. Peabody, his boy Sherman, and set the Wayback machine to 1996. Third, it sounds TO ME like you are mixing up Pattaya's airhead bars with Nana (and Cowboy) agogo's, Night and day. Finally, it's capitalism. What's sad is that you're upset that they aren't charging you the price YOU want rather than the price THEY want. That's 1st world arrogance. Might be great cash to you but not to them. Obviously they think they can do better, and, if not, you (general you) are not worth it.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkZ  [View Original Post]
    Soi Cowboy.
    5 bars 1 house madamme said no boom boom here, another bar I went into I said no drinks just boom boom she kept saying you buy drinks first.
    As I said above, it's not Pattaya, and it's not a brothel. My MO: quick glance to see what the vibe is, the girls on stage look like (yes, it's one shift) but it works as a sample. If OK, I buy a beer. If not, walk. I don't come to the bars to drink, I come to find an evening's entertainment.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkZ  [View Original Post]
    Another bar I went into I pick girl buy her drink when the drinks came another girl scooted in too and already had the bartender make her one too.
    Rude, disrespectful and they think this shit is funny or suppose to be a turn on. Damn cockroaches-.
    ONE simple word, "NO", or, in Thai, "MY". Now, I can NEVER get the tone right, but by my expression, EVERYONE knows I'm saying NO, not "new".

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkZ  [View Original Post]
    Very disappointed over and over I heard read forums posts and videos and talked to over 5 guys saying thailand Bangkok was the place to go.
    Boom boom around 1000-1500 baht everywhere. And when I get here its more than triple. If I would of know this I would of stayed home_.
    AGAIN, check the thread, BIG difference between Bangkok and Pattaya. I can recall plenty of Pattaya posts of 1000/1500, but I can't recall ANY in a Bangkok club.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkZ  [View Original Post]
    Another thing that's so damn annoying is these women in Bangkok can't even translate their own language, I've handed them google translate.

    Over and over and over and they still can't understand their own words. They speak into the phone and its all a jumble of mess. 1 x it came out The mechanic is on the roof. Wtf? At least in Medellin, Mexico, Costa Rica the girls try to speak english and use google translate.

    They speak into the phone and its all a jumble of mess.
    It's THAIland, Thai is THE language. Why can't you speak it? I'd say your problem is with google translate, NOT with the girl, and there ARE dialects here, I wouldn't expect Google to handle everything. AND Thai is TONAL (5 tones, MY is NO and new depending on the tone). And tones are relative to the individual, my tones will be different than yours. Why it sounds so sing-song. Spanish is not tonal.

    Some of the best times I've had are with those where the language difference was large; just make it fun in trying to communicate. I'm always thankful I can't speak Thai; otherwise I'd be hearing her saying "WTF is this IDIOT trying to say?"

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkZ  [View Original Post]
    Hey everyone, Let Me know any bars or massage centers for boom boom with the rates of 1000-1500 baht please.
    Glad to help out. Pattaya, and look for Mr. Peabody ....

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkZ  [View Original Post]
    I'm looking for ones like Medellin, Aruba, Curacao you walk in their is line up, you choose, you pay $50 us / Canadian for 30 minutes.

    Its honest, simple, fun and respectful. Theres no lying, cheating a man out of drinks and each girl pitching escalated Porn Rates.
    Then catch a flight there. One thing I've learned in 30 years as an ex-pat, I NEVER compare Place A with Place B. They are different, and happy they are, otherwise, it'd be boring. And one thing I don't compare is prices. A box of Frosty Flakes is $3 at home, $10 someplace else, but if I want Frosty Flakes, I pay. Otherwise, you just wind up unhappy.

    The other thing I strongly suggest is a change of attitude. The girls are very astute, the ones I know, anyway. You come in with an arrogant, condescending attitude, they readily pick up on that. There was an interesting post on the Pattaya thread about an American bidding on a girl like cattle, and he didn't place the winning bid. But another, who treated her as a person, did, at a lot lower.

    Don't allow yourself to be a mark. If you're being ripped off, say something. From what Stick says, in some Cowboy bars, it's become a thing. But others, not. The Arab's bars there do have a rep.

    And there used to be a very descent short time hotel on Soi 7/1, to the left, fairly close to Sukhumvit. I used to use from Beer Garden pulls, legit hotel with ST rooms. Beer Garten, at least in November, afternoons, was a SAD affair; hopefully it will pick up.

    There are MANY who have fun in Thailand, some won't. Personally, as I've said again and again, I just ask myself what is HER experience worth to me THAT night. If she says yes, off we go. If no, then I move on. But if you're CONSTANTLY being turned down, then it might be time to reevaluate your pricing structure / expectations. TIT.

  5. #52961
    Quote Originally Posted by TomThumbbs  [View Original Post]
    Sunday I saw a Hippie looking character buy from a Street Vendor.

    I told him don't just please don't. E telepathically of course.
    Contrary to your view.

    The kamagra products sold by the street vendors on Sukhumvit are Class A OK.

    They all come from the same supplier and are legit.

    It is the same supplier that sells them to the pharmacy shops where you happily pay inflated prices.

    I know as I have privately sourced them from there for years, and nowadays I even run a successful export business off their product supply.

  6. #52960
    Quote Originally Posted by MarkZ  [View Original Post]
    Last 3 night checking out nana and soi cowboy_.

    Hey everyone, Let Me know any bars or massage centers for boom boom with the rates of 1000-1500 baht please.

    Ill be traveling to Pattaya and a few other cities like Phuket and Chiang Mai in the next few weeks.
    Pattaya Soi 6 is 1500 baht. Thats about the lowest you're going to find. The quality of girls on Soi 6 is. Not great, but there will be literally hundreds of girls, so you'll find one you want. They will try to ask for a higher price, of course they will, but the price is 1500 which includes the room upstairs, just say it and they will say OK. No need to buy them lady drinks or anything, if you see one you like just talk to her and you're all set.

    My guess is you can snag a FL in Pattaya Beach road at 1500 as well. Rarely a FL in Bangkok at that rate... it won't happen but I'm sure someone has a story that they got that price once in BKK.

  7. #52959
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelBless  [View Original Post]
    Anyone with info on the ST and LT rates in Thermae Cafe and if all girls go with European men.
    All girls go with anyone willing to pay. Thats how thailand works. Never ever think otherwise. I don't remember the usual rates, but they aren't wild, these girls are all freelancers that are down in thermae right then, maybe they are on the street another night. You just find one you like and go talk to her. Thermae will be filled with girls standing around there next to each other just waiting to see who is going to do them. Take a lap around and find one you like and that's all that needs to be done. Or if you don't like any, walk out. When you go in you have to buy a drink for like 100 baht is all.

  8. #52958

    Landing soon

    I'll be landing in Bangkok on the 5th and looking forward, but recent reports of over priced and non friendly attitude got me little down. Plus with recent travel restriction lift from China got me little worried as well. Looks like I will have to come up with some other creative way to fill my time in land of smiles or even cut my time short. I hope this is not the case. Either way I'm looking forward to having a cold one in Bangkok.

  9. #52957
    Quote Originally Posted by SirWilliam4  [View Original Post]
    Sidegra works fine. Readily available at most pharmacies. 200 THB for 4 100 MG tablets at Foodland pharmacy on Suk Soi 5.

    SW.

    Also Can I walk in and buy the local Viagra in most pharmacy's? I don't have a prescription I know some have talked about this here just want to know for sure. I think its called SIDEGRA, does it waro as well as the brand name Viagra?
    Foodland pharmacy on soi 5 was closed for renovation in early December and didn't look like it was going to reopen anytime soon.

    Sidegra works great, as Kamagra gold.

  10. #52956

    Salvaging the Bangkok Trip

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkZ  [View Original Post]
    Last 3 night checking out nana and soi cowboy_.

    Nana I went into 8 + bars few times I bought girls drinks other times I just talked to the manager.

    And said no drinks how much for that girl_.

    3 bars ripped me off on drinks, put 3 drinks on from another girl and another charged 1500 baht for 1 girls coke and vodka.

    --Extortion at its all time high, Not friendly, Not nice more pushy and condescending and only after the mans WALLETT_.

    2 bars said I had to buy drinks 1st to even discuss prices I continued to ask 3 time to no avail.

    Not one bar said they have rooms, I had to supply the hotel and only 1 girl mentioned a hotel right down the street for 1 hour.

    Of the girls that said yes to boom boom all of them quoted me 4000 baht + hotel room + bar fee of 1000 baht. Total they were seeking 5400 baht.

    I countered with 1500 . Then just a little bit more. Nope. Girls would rather make Zero than great cash. Sad.

    So that's 150 us / canadian. Hell No.

    Years ago I went to Costa Rica and the girls were 100-200 the same as back home in a country where people only make.

    $5 dollars a day.

    So no I aint paying usa / Canada rates when traveling to 3rd world countries.

    Soi Cowboy.

    5 bars 1 house madamme said no boom boom here, another bar I went into I said no drinks just boom boom she kept saying you buy drinks first.

    So I left, next bar had 3 older worn down ladies working I left right away-Another bar I went into I pick girl buy her drink when the drinks came another girl scooted in too and already had the bartender make her one too.

    Rude, disrespectful and they think this shit is funny or suppose to be a turn on. Damn cockroaches-.

    I continued to talk to the 2 girls they both said yes to boom boom 3500 baht + hotel + 1000 bar fee. I paid the drinks and left.

    Very disappointed over and over I heard read forums posts and videos and talked to over 5 guys saying thailand Bangkok was the place to go.

    Boom boom around 1000-1500 baht everywhere. And when I get here its more than triple. If I would of know this I would of stayed home_.

    Another thing that's so damn annoying is these women in Bangkok can't even translate their own language, I've handed them google translate.

    Over and over and over and they still can't understand their own words. They speak into the phone and its all a jumble of mess. 1 x it came out The mechanic is on the roof. Wtf? At least in Medellin, Mexico, Costa Rica the girls try to speak english and use google translate.

    They speak into the phone and its all a jumble of mess.

    Hey everyone, Let Me know any bars or massage centers for boom boom with the rates of 1000-1500 baht please.

    I'm looking for ones like Medellin, Aruba, Curacao you walk in their is line up, you choose, you pay $50 us / Canadian for 30 minutes.

    Its honest, simple, fun and respectful. Theres no lying, cheating a man out of drinks and each girl pitching escalated Porn Rates.

    Ill be traveling to Pattaya and a few other cities like Phuket and Chiang Mai in the next few weeks.
    Sorry to hear that your trip got off to a lousy start here in Bangkok.

    After reading your post, I think perhaps there are a couple of things going on. The first is that you arrived at the absolute peak of high tourist season. So, there are plenty of tourists around but a lot of Thai people, including working girls, go to visit their families over the new year holiday. So, increased demand meets reduced supply. Secondly, after reading the forums I do believe you may be conflating standard street / BG prices with gogo prices. Generally, the girls in the gogo bars can command the highest prices. While pricing has definitely gotten out of hand post-Covid, I don't think it's realistic to expect to pull from a gogo for 1,000 - 1,500 THB. The way the industry seems to moving, post-Covid, is that this amount would (maybe) cover the barfinee. The price of the girl would then be 2-3 x more, depending on the particulars.

    So, my advice would be to stay out of the gogo bars in Nana, Cowboy, and Walking Street (in Pattaya). Instead, plan to venture a bit further afield. There are plenty of ladies working in the Beer Bars surrounding these areas who are available for these rates, and the bar fines are generally much more reasonable than at gogo bars. So, just do the stroll until you see something you like. Then enter the bar, order a drink, and go from there. In terms of freelancers, there are plenty to be had up and down Soi 4. They tend to appear more under the cover of darkness, but you'll see them not only standing around Nana Hotel and Hooters but also strolling up and down the soi. You can go park yourself at one of bars, taking a street-view seat, and see what goes by. If you see someone you like, call her over. The Hillary 2 Bar on Soi 4, which normally has a live band starting at 7 pm, is also well known for freelancers.

    Another good place to check out is Soi 7. There is a large beer bar complex on the left as you walk away from Sukhumvit. Somewhat overlooked are the pop-up bars on the opposite side of the soi. At these, one can order a large bottle of beer very inexpensively and sit and enjoy the view on the soi (both in the adjacent beer bars and the pedeistrian traffic up and down the soi). If you walk into the complex itself, perhaps to use to 10-Baht restroom, you will notice it is quite large and there are a lot of smaller bars. Virtually all of them have BGs available for a barfine, and there are short-time hotel options on Soi 7/1, a 3-minute walk. Finally, Beer Garden (a veritable institution here in Bangkok) is located a bit further up Soi 7 on the left. This place has the reputation of being a freelance bar for MILFs and their customers, but I've always found it is worth a look.

    If that still doesn't work for you then just do the stroll between Nana and Asoke. In the evening, there will be enough FLs about that you should be able to find somebody you like who is within your stated price range. Don't be afraid to negotiate on prices as it's past the new year now and peak season is behind us.

    Once you get to Pattaya, my advice is to stick with bars on Soi Buakhow and adjacent sois (like Soi Pothole) and Soi 6. Many (most) of these bars have short-time rooms and the price for girls is generally 1,000 - 1,5000 THB. If you venture to LK Metro, you will pay more and you will be quoted ridiculous prices on Walking Street.

  11. #52955

    Nana and cowboy dismal dissapointment

    Last 4 nights nana and cowboy.

    Nana.

    Overcharged for drinks, managers added BS drinks not mine.

    Pushy disrespectful and girls kept grabbing my dick.

    All dancers I talked to quoted 4000 baht with bar 1000 and hotel 300.

    I countered with 1/2 those rates. No takers.

    After 1st night of being scammed over and over like 1600 baht vodka / coke 1 girl drink.

    I just go in the bars pick girl and say I'm not interested in drinks just boom boom.

    The Most friendly bar was the boy bar I accidentally went into spoke english friendly and nice.

    I don't travel to different countries to pay the Canada / us rates especially when.

    People only make $5 a day.

    Last time I was in Costa Rica it was $100-150. Ummm I can get that back home.

    Soi cowboy.

    5 clubs rude pushy and no one speaks english.

    Google translate can't even translate what they say. Ridiculous unfriendly disrespectful.

    1 bar had older women in there had to leave, another bar kept saying drink drink.

    They refused to tell me prices unless I bought girl drink first.

    Another bar I walk in buy my drink and manager charged me for 2 drinks as a girl comes up and.

    Sits next to me. Extortion at its best here. They want to make you smile. Nooooo Just want a mans wallet.

    Clueless on customer service and google translate to make a welcoming experience.

    For over a year now I've been talking to people getting in the forums watching videos of guys saying Bangkok.

    Is 1500 baht everywhere. Definitely Not True.

    In dr, curacao, st martin, medellin, bogata, Costa Rica, jaco, toronto these casas you go in pick girl pay 1 flat fee for 30 minutes.

    No lies, no scams, no gold diggers no cheats just honest fun sensual time.

    Where are the places you can just walk choose girl and pay 1 set price in Bangkok??

  12. #52954
    Quote Originally Posted by Nite_Runner  [View Original Post]
    Google Keep does not require Two Factor Authorization (2 FA) to access / operate. It is available on ALL platforms, very easy to use, and lastly, it's free. I use it as an "extra brain" as I have pics of my vehicle insurance, vehicle registration, health insurance cards, passports, and other notes that I want to keep at the ready. Too often, I'm on the phone or in line with a Customer Rep and need a "number" or a piece of info and do not have the card / info with me. Google Keep has saved my ass numerous times. Hell, I even have pics of the make / model of my kitchen appliances loaded. I was at HD a few weeks ago and needed the model # of my dishwasher for a part I was buying and luckily, I was able to access it via Google Keep.

    N_R.
    I have Keep, but don't see any way to restrict access. On my Android mobile, I use Vault (Wafer co.) free app, for restricted access to photos and videos. On my laptop, Veracrypt for an encrypted zip file.

  13. #52953
    Quote Originally Posted by Kakariki  [View Original Post]
    I went there a few months ago and sat and had one drink, maybe I was invisible, but not one girl talked to me or hardly even looked at me, but a steady stream of Japanese guys walked in, were immediately confronted by the girls and left with them within 5 minutes of entering;.
    This has been my experience at Thermae every single time! The totem pole appears to be all Japanese. I don't waste my time there any longer. Little better chances with FLs right outside Thermae from what I've read.

  14. #52952
    Quote Originally Posted by MarkZ  [View Original Post]
    Hey everyone, Let Me know any bars or massage centers for boom boom with the rates of 1000-1500 baht please. Ill be traveling to Pattaya and a few other cities like Phuket and Chiang Mai in the next few weeks.
    I doubt you'll get it from any GoGos in Thailand, but you'll find what you want in Pattaya Soi 6 - please read through the extensive reporting on the Pattaya forum. Added bonus for you is that most bars have rooms on the upper floor (though it'll cost you 400-500 B for an hour).

  15. #52951
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelBless  [View Original Post]
    Anyone with info on the ST and LT rates in Thermae Cafe and if all girls go with European men.
    I went there a few months ago and sat and had one drink, maybe I was invisible, but not one girl talked to me or hardly even looked at me, but a steady stream of Japanese guys walked in, were immediately confronted by the girls and left with them within 5 minutes of entering;.

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