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  1. #53024

    Your Not Alone Welcome to Asia

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyNuts  [View Original Post]
    I am often refused BF in gogos. Admittedly I'm usually asking one of the 3 or 4 hottest girls in the club. I've seen some super hot girls that never appeared to leave with anyone and only agree to have drinks with customers. And then I've seen other hotties that were happy to go with old Asian guys after saying no to me. Just curious are you of Asian ethnicity? Or do you let the girl pick you in the gogo? I realize that the vast majority of girls are available to be bar fined but in my experience not the hot ones. Especially with non-Asian guys.
    Welcome to Asia.

    I remember being turned away almost everywhere I went in Seoul, and it was rough in Japan as well if your non-Asian.

    In fact, I boycotted spending my mongering money in Seoul after being showed the exit after entering most of the establishments or being told there was a different fee structure for Farangs.

    Same thing in the coffee place in Bangkok before the Pandemic.

    Pretty easy to tell which ones would go with you as they wouldn't even look at you or give you a dirty look.

    It was almost like "what the fuck are you doing here. " The money is not an issue with most, they could care less.

    Racism pure and simple.

    I remember pulling a girl off of Beach Road in Pattaya before the Pandemic.

    She did not have lily white skin like most Thais. She was I guess Morena with a little bit of color, like a light tan.

    Upon leaving the Hotel with her, the receptionists with lily white skin gave her back her ID, and said to her that she was a "beautiful black woman."

  2. #53023
    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo  [View Original Post]
    Stick had a recent article (Suzie Wong) about the double billed lady drinks. At least there, they're served in the same size glasses as the customers drink from.

    I liked one quote from Stick: In the past when you brought a lady a drink, it was appreciated. Now it's expected.

    I never cared that much for Patpong, except for some of the institutions there. But I'd always take a visitor there just because if they couldn't say they'd seen Patpong, then the never-been-but-know-everything people back home would say, "You didn't see Patpong? Then you haven't seen the BKK red light district". Was certainly worth several afternoon visits in Nov-Dec 2022. FR's in the links in my post that you responded to.

    SOL, Nov-early Dec 2022, was closed, another poster said "for renovations". Hopefully, an industrial steam cleaning. But certainly a memorable place. I'll suggest taking your friend there and buying him a beer and a BJ. You'll talk about it for decades (personal experience, thank you Sporadic).

    The other option is Meet the World, same side, upstairs from SOL, much closer to Surawong. Buy him a beer, ring the bell, and treat him to a BJ swarm. Given 4 are a bit of overkill, 3 for him, remainder for you?

    Both places institutions, and typical of BKK, if you can't find happiness in one, you can in the other. BKK, still plenty of fun to be had.
    I appreciate the recommendations. Meet the World isn't a place I'd know to try out but sounds like a great newbie experience. As for SOL the only way to get that place clean would be to burn it to the ground and rebuild it, no amount of scrubbing with chemicals would ever get it clean. There's a bunch of places in Pattaya that are similar. I don't consider myself an exhibitionist but there's a thrill to getting serviced in the bar.

    I feel obliged to give my friend a good tour of BKK, so your suggestions are appreciated. Another experience I need to show him is a soapie. Does anyone know if the big soapie places in Huay Kwang are open, like Poseidon, Caesars, etc? TBH I haven't been to any of those in years, but it's a unique experience. I can't remember which one it was, but the bottom floor was a huge fishbowl, then the next floor up was more VIP where the girls sat around the walls of the room not in a fishbowl, and then the mamasan brought over a book with photos of the truly highest tier of girls who had done modeling or posed for Thai adult magazines and you could meet them in another area. That was probably over 10 years ago though as soapies aren't really my thing anymore, but I think it's a good add for a newbie's experience.

    This is making me realize that over the last 10 years or so I've sort of got stuck in a rut doing the same things and going to the same places. It'll be fun to rediscover some places and experiences. I know the scene isn't fully recovered from the past couple of years though and some places will never come back.

  3. #53022
    Quote Originally Posted by OzzyMate  [View Original Post]
    Never knew BKK would treat me to such wonderful options via seeking. Having used it extensively in the middle east, I went ahead (last week) and got in touch with a few girls via seeking. ST (3-4 hours) ranged from THB6000 all the way till THB20000 (which seemed a bit steep). Chose one of the girls at THB7500 and wow was she an absolute stunner? Everything was on the menu including A-level (extremely tight). 3/4 hours seemed like an absolute dream. Here for another week so meeting another girl (who works at an event management company) later tonight. Will report on it.
    Thanks for the Tip! 6 k for 3-4 hours seems reasonable I hadn't checked SA in forever, since I remember most of them were for long term sugar babies and my bank account isn't ready to be a sugar daddy just yet LOL.

  4. #53021

    Trip No. 2 Week 1

    *30 Dec.

    Barely slept the past the 2 days and took a short nap before booking through **Body Bliss Bangkok* I tried Smooci first, but they aren't accepting Visa for premium memberships and Mastercard Debit wasn't going through either. I contacted their support team, but they were of no help. For Body Bliss, you use line and pick the service and photo of who you want. You can ask for specific services since some girls won't even do BBBJ. I booked **Madam K* who was maybe 50% of what I expected from her profile photo. She had a piggish nose, chubbier cheeks and a round and smaller chin. She was very comfortable and took the lead. Started off with a fantastic massage and she even teased my inner thighs, which was a nice touch. The BBBJ was great, but since CIM was off the menu, I had to move to the main course. When I brought it up earlier, she told me not to rush. She was very good at leading the entire process. This was the first time I was comfortable just enjoying the ride. She got on top and had fantastic hip movement. The kissing was mediocre, like most girls. After I finished, she cleaned me up and then washed up. We had some genuinely good conversation for the remainder of our time and I appreciated that she waited for the clock to run out instead of ducking out early. She was very affectionate and professional and I can definitely recommend her services. She recommended a bunch of places for me to go to New Years and the Jodd's fair for street food.

    Total Damages= 2500 - 60 minutes FS - 1 shot.

    *31 Dec.

    Woke up really late after catching up on sleep and I had to plan what to do for New Years. The last time I celebrated was in 2018, but being on holiday in a foreign country felt like the worst scenario for sleeping at 10 PM like I had been doing for the past few years. I looked for a night club and Insanity looked lit, but their website said they were closed and the phone number did not exist. Chit Lom looked too family friendly for my liking and anything along the river seemed too far. I thought about finally heading to Nana or Sir Cowboy, but I though NYE might not be the best time for my inaugural visit. I finally decided on **The PIMP Club* They advertise very heavily on a bunch of websites and their photos make it look like a wild club. I booked a table at the live zone and got a taxi there.

    The hostess led me to a table just by the stage. My first impression was that it was pretty sad. There were about 8 tables by the stage, some closer and some further away. There was a whole section of sofas of to the right of the stage. They had a pretty good band. Amazing drummer and their female vocalist was killing it! Most of the tables had boring looking men and bored women staring off or on their phones. I thought I had made a mistake. I ordered a Corona to start with, planning to grab a bite and cut my losses.

    The mamasan then came over and asked me if I'd like some company for the evening. She explained the rates and that I had to also buy a "mamasan drink". The parade approached and I picked the first girl in the girl, because she had that twinkle in the eye and she looked a little to the side shyly. Shared by Corona with Angpow and shared her E-cig. She was cute enough, so I decided to switch to a tower of heienekin. The night progressed very well, escalating kino along the way. I ordered a couple shots for us since I felt a touch too sober. Angpow teased me my putting the salt on her chest, and I called her bluff by cleaning it up. Once she started grabbing my crotch, I thought making out wouldn't be crossing any lines. She was a great kisser! I could tell she liked it rough too from the way she held my neck and the intense eye contact. She called a couple of her friend over in between. A bikini girl had a shot with her, when I though one of those were supposed to be for me. The waiters wanted to push some food on us, but I had already eaten, so I let her pick out what she wanted. She got a fruit platter and chicken tenders with fried. If I didn't keep feeding her fruit, chicken and fried, I think the plates would remain untouched. I fed the friends she brought over too teasing them about how skinny they were. We got another round of shots for Angpow, the bikini friend and myself. I used Angpow as my plate, licking the salt off her chest and drinking the lime juice straight from her mouth, which proceeded to some real hot kissing. I never mentioned by they have a dice game and Rock Paper Scissors to get past any awkwardness, you should definitely use it as an ask to flirt! Angpow kept offering me cigarettes so I started lighting them up for her. One of the times, I decided to give her the first drag by mouth to mouth. My ex told me it's pretty sexy, so I've included in my repertoire, but this is the first time I used it.

    The mamasan said it was closing time, but I was having too much of a good time and wanted to play with Angpow some more. The rest of the night is a little of a blur since I had ordered another tower of Heineken and the shots were making their way into my bloodstream. All I remember was tripping and whacking my nose on a speaker. Fortunately there was only a little bleeding, so it didn't impede the debauchery. There was heavy making out and I took Angpow's panties halfway down her ass before she resisted, so I pulled it back up. Her dress was too tight to pull up, so I went lower teasing her crotch with my chin and nose until I slid it to the slid and went down on her. Her bikini friend came in later and all the alcohol finally had enough of my body, deciding to exit the way it entered. The bikini model accompanied me to the bathroom and rubbed my back. I felt like I was 19 again. She was having a lot of fun babying me, I must have been very amusing to watch.

    At the end of the night, the mamasan came in with the bill. They had billed me for an extra shot, so even if my inebriated state I got the price down 300 for that. I don't think I calculated the exact hours and the private room. While clarifying the bill, I realized I was down to my boxer briefs and I thought arguing dressed like this might not be the most credible approach, so I got my clothes back on. At some point Angpow wanted to leave. She looked pretty drunk and I escorted her to the exit. Looking back she may have been put off by some of my antics, but my drunken memory is too poor to know for sure. On my way out the bikini model gave me a kiss and mentioned how amusing it was to see a man in his underwear. It was apparently a first for her.

    **Total Damages** = THB 16690 - 3 ish hours in Live Zone, 3 ish hours in a small private room, 2 Heineken towers, 1 Corona, 7 Tequilas and a solid set of blue balls.

    Mamasan booked me a cab and I kissed her on the cheek before leaving. The taxi tried to keep my change, but even my drunken self has enough math skills to get the 13 baht I was owed. Cheap and petty, but I was warmed up to avoid getting ripped off from the previous encounter of the night.

    *1 Jan.

    Woke up quite hungover and horny af. Had to process the happenings of the night before, like I do after most of my wild nights. Check my wounds, found my white watch had been stained blue but I have no idea how. The watch even had a strand of hair stuck in it and I'm pretty sure I plucked it out while making out and can only hope it didn't hurt her too much. I took a while stewing my options and contacting a bunch of places on Line. Most didn't respond and I was way too lazy to leave my room and I didn't even want to get dressed. Finally decided to try Body Bliss again since they were very prompt the first time. The selection was much slimmer for 2 PM on New Year's Day, but that was to be expected. Dao shows up and looks nothing like her photo. It might be rude, but her face was covered in acne scars and she had a low wide jaw that reminds me of 70 year old edentulous women. Her body was very tight though and I finally understood the phrase "Cover the face, Fuck the base". I had booked her for 2 hours and instantly regretted it. I started with massage since I didn't think I could get it upright away. Her massage was very repetitive and seemed to have no purpose. I finally got bored and asked to move onto the action. No BBBJ because she was a clean freak. She believed bacteria can be spread and cause major problems. Despite being a medical professional, my limited explanation wasn't enough to convince her and I decided it wasn't worth the effort since I wasn't looking forward to seeing her face on my little friend.

    She rolled the condom on and blew me to get me hard. She got on top, but it was obvious she had no idea what she doing. She was tired 2 minutes later. She lay down, but that is not a face for missionary so I got her on her knees. She didn't want to put her face down, which is the recommended position for doggy, but fuck it, I decided I would use her as a flashlight and masturbate. It's pretty dehumanizing, but she was getting paid for her work and I never mentioned it so that she wouldn't have her feelings hurt. Sometimes my chivalry astound me.

    She massaged my thighs a little more before bringing up round 2. We did the tango almost exactly like the first time. She washed me up and left. No goodbye hugs or kisses, which was a first for me. She was even dressed so well, it's a real shame about her face. I truly hope she has boyfriends or customers who like it, because I really feel out of line judging her so strongly for it.

    Total Damages: 4 k - 2 hours FS - 2 explosions.

    Smoked a doobie and called it a night.

    *2 Jan.

    Decided to try fiwfans or sideline for the first time, since I wanted to cut down on how much I had been spending. I contacted around 10 girls, none of whom were working. The new year supply drought is definitely real! I finally decided to head to **Momo Massage* but no one was available. Mamasan told me very apologetically that they had very few girls working and recommended a girl who would be free in 30 minutes. I caved and went to grab a bite and a beer from a restaurant nearby. I was hesitant about spending time with a girl who had likely just finished with another client. Not for any macho imagined exclusivity because I'm not delusional, but because I was afraid she would be tired and maybe back to back clients might be an unpleasant experience.

    With a belly full of Crab curry. Stir fried beef and beer, I was escorted by Lisa to the room. She initially had a look of defeat that only lasted an instant. She very professionally put on a cute front and the banter began. She was out of breath by the time we walked up to the fifth floor, so I taught her the best way to breathe. She wasn't nearly as cute as her photo despite the mamasan's assurances prior to my booking. She was attentive and affectionate though, so that more than compensated. Very much a GFE since she reminded me so much of my ex. If I closed my eyes, I would have thought I was with my ex again.

    She had a very pretty Ankh tattoo and a lot of Chinese lettering. She like almost every other girl called me cute and hansom. I'm sure these compliments are performative at this point. She was great on top and had considerable endurance, missionary and doggy were fun too. We cuddled for a bit before round 2. Definitely a GFE! We showered and I left.

    Total Damages: 2600 - 90 minutes FS - 2 servings of protein.

    *3 Jan.

    Looking for fiwfans and Sideline was a bust again and Analisa sent me a message saying they're closed till the 6th. I decided to be lazy and go somewhere within walking distance. I initially thought of Kiss Massage, but after dinner in Emquartier, I decided on **Angel 26** massage. Most of the girls must still be on holiday since there were all of about 10 girls in the fish bowl compared to the 30 or so the last time I visited. I caught eyes with my previous "therapist" but she averted her gaze. Another cutie was sitting front and center so I sat right beside her and gave her the sideways glance. She had the cute look away with the corner of her mouth curled into a controlled smirk. Nami's fate for the next hour was decided. Really cute and a good kisser, but one of the worst breast augmentations I have ever seen. The nipples were pointed in different directions and this was a subcutaneous implant and not a sub muscular one. For those unaware, submuscular implants are almost imperceptible, but with subcutaneous ones, you can feel the hemispherical foreign body and I personally find that a little jarring. It was today that I realized how much of a turn on a good kisser can be. I always thought it was a take it or leave it sort of thing, but not anymore.

    Nami's massage was pathetic, but I think she knew it since she turned me over pretty quickly and got to work. Another BJ with a condom, but I was too enamored to object. She was great on top, in missionary and I finished in Doggy. Compared to my usual performances, this time my little friend was a little too eager to shoot. She gave me some more of her oil rubbing to run out the clock before washing me up. I made out a bit before, during and after the shower. She had such inviting eyes that I just could not contain myself. I even gave her a quick peck at the exit door.

    Total Damages: 1900 - 60 minutes FS. Single serve.

    *4 Jan.

    Messaged one of the sideline girls from the days before to ask if she was working and I was in luck. I made a booking for 6 PM and got one with other work. I needed to check out a gym, buy a rabbit card and buy some wine but it looked too hot out, so I hit the hotel gym instead. By the time I showered and called for the cab, it was already 6 PM. I got to the hotel at 6:20 and she texted me her room. I knocked and it felt like opening a Christmas present. What was I going to get? Fortunately Min was cute. She was easily 10-15 kg heavier than her photos though. She asked me what I thought and I said I was OK, since I hadn't seen her photos since the day before and had forgotten. Without the expectations, I felt my little friend could work with her. She washed me, started with a BBBJ, rode me for a bit, till we switched to missionary, doggy and then missionary again. She was pretty tired by this point so I asked her to take her daily dose of protein. CIM was 400 extra but I was prepared for that. The night before, the entire sexual experience was encased by latex and it left me profoundly dissatisfied. Even if the sex is protected, the BBBJ satisfies that mucosal to mucosal contact that one would expect from the carnal activity. Once we finished, she asked me if I needed another round. I answered in the affirmative and she repeatedly brought up how little time there was and that she didn't think I'd be able to pull it off. It was during this exchange that I tacitly learned the Sideline timer starts when you book, even if you're late. Keep that in mind fellow tardy mongers! I opted to have her blow me for round 2, which was definitely tiring for her, but I always get my money's worth. She washed up and changed once she finished her meal and I followed suit. We chatted and kissed a bit while I paid her. She tried asking for a tip, but with my past experience I had a playful rebuttal in my back pocket. I grabbed her toy unicorn and told her here was a little tip. She complained that it was too small, so I grabbed my crotch and told her I already gave her a BIG tip already and asked her if she wanted some more. I got up up and gave her a peck on the cheek while she saw me out.

    I saw a family checking in to this debaucherous hotel and it felt quite surreal that mongering and wholesome family moments are indistinguishable aspects of the human experience. Thus began a philosophical 3 km walk back to my hotel with a stop for dinner on the way.

    **Total Damages: 2800 - 90 minutes FS (lost 20 due to being late)/ 2 rounds + 2 tastings for the girl.

    *5 Jan.

    Had an appointment for the 6th, so I spent most of my day preparing for that. I thought about going somewhere close if time allowed. I got done with work related stuff at 7:30 PM, so I went and bought my Rabbit card. On a side note, I must admit that the design is very suggestive. A bunny with adult written across it- My sister thought it was a male sign and the card was for condoms. Having had a productive day, the fitting end would be to bestow a sample of my greatness to a worthy individual! Time to try a BJ bar - 7 Heaven.

    Having met a rude receptionist on my previous visit, I was somewhat prepared and ready to walk out if there was a repeat. I just picked from their money and walked through the dimly lit corridor to see an exuberant provider waiting for me. She cheerfully led me to a room of sorts. It was basically a partition section with a bed, a clothes stand, a broken sink and a telephonic shower. This being my first time in this sort of set up, I opted to wait on the bed until my Suckubus returned and guided me. She washed me in the sink and had me undress completely. Put took her top down. She had a rose tattoo that covered up a burn and she showed me another burn on the right side of chest. I surmised they were from an Iron given their triangular shape and how even the burn was. It looked like a clear case of abuse, but I wasn't sure if it was appropriate to bring it up or to express sympathy. Given her excessive cheerfulness, I decided to feign ignorance and ask her if she was thinking of another cover up tattoo for the other burn.

    Onto the action, there was some scrotum licking. So far, I haven't been with a provider who knows how to lick to suck the male gonad. It's not something that I'm particularly into, so teaching them this skill isn't worth it to me. It's just a nice reprieve between the more enjoyable parts of the performance and the longer the show, the better the climax, so I have no complaints. COF and COB are charged extra, but CIM is included in the price, which is prefect for someone like me. She was the first provider who was okay with me grabbing her head tightly as I emptied into her throat. She did grip a little too tightly with her teeth, but she kept going the finish. She initially kept wiping up the spit with a tissue, but focused on the task at hand toward the latter half. Her moans were what I'd expect from a high school actor, so that was a bit of a turn off while also allowing me to prolong the entire experience. She washed me up and handed me my clothes while she pulled her top back up. We had to wait 5 minutes before I could leave since there was another customer in the waiting room. I just stared at her ass and thighs while I waited, observing her curiously shaped panties. When I left, I looked at the receptionist more closely. I realized that she was in fact very cut and just my type. At this point, I wasn't sure if I should make an offhand comment or if it would come off as unprofessional and a little sleazy, so I just said thank you and walked off into the night.

    **Total Damages: 1300 - BBBJ + CIM.

    *6 Jan.

    My interview was successful and I am in a celebratory mood. I have just finished my third glass of scotch while spilling the degenerate side of my soul to the random internet strangers (I love you guys). I am considering hitting up a soapy like Poseidon or the Office and then maybe capping off the night at The PIMP. Still not sure of my plans, but Imma go grab a sandwich and think about it. I'm still dressed in my suit and I feel like doing a businessman sort of night, so I'm not chaining out of it.

    Any suggestions from the more senior veterans on this forums would be greatly appreciated!

  5. #53020
    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo  [View Original Post]
    And yeah the girls want to order a tequila coke which is not a single drink but a shot and a side coke which they sip (or drink fast), so you get double billed. I'd allow it sometimes but tried to keep it in check.

    I haven't been to Patpong since covid, but for me it improved a lot over when it was really bad maybe 10+ years ago. I liked SOL and that I think was the craziest bar there, I walked in on a lot of guys getting BJs right in the open and even one guy doing the deed with a girl right at the bar. There was a girl named rabbit who was notorious there, but damn I guess that was like 15 years ago. I have a trip next month, can anyone tell me their opinion of how Patpong is now?

    Anyway, love your mentioning of things from the past. I'm not one to say things were better back whenever in the past, things just evolve. Still every time I go, even my trips during the middle of covid when almost everything was shut, are fun. I'll be back late next month and coming with a good friend who's never been there. It's fun to me to show someone new around, the feeling of awe and wonder from them makes me remember wayyyyy back when Thailand was new to me.
    Stick had a recent article (Suzie Wong) about the double billed lady drinks. At least there, they're served in the same size glasses as the customers drink from.

    I liked one quote from Stick: In the past when you brought a lady a drink, it was appreciated. Now it's expected.

    I never cared that much for Patpong, except for some of the institutions there. But I'd always take a visitor there just because if they couldn't say they'd seen Patpong, then the never-been-but-know-everything people back home would say, "You didn't see Patpong? Then you haven't seen the BKK red light district". Was certainly worth several afternoon visits in Nov-Dec 2022. FR's in the links in my post that you responded to.

    SOL, Nov-early Dec 2022, was closed, another poster said "for renovations". Hopefully, an industrial steam cleaning. But certainly a memorable place. I'll suggest taking your friend there and buying him a beer and a BJ. You'll talk about it for decades (personal experience, thank you Sporadic).

    The other option is Meet the World, same side, upstairs from SOL, much closer to Surawong. Buy him a beer, ring the bell, and treat him to a BJ swarm. Given 4 are a bit of overkill, 3 for him, remainder for you?

    Both places institutions, and typical of BKK, if you can't find happiness in one, you can in the other. BKK, still plenty of fun to be had.

  6. #53019
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    Will I get a better exchange rate cashing in $ 100 USD bills versus using an ATM card exclusive of fees in Thailand.

    So is the actual exchange rate better than the ATM rate with brand new $ 100 USD bills.
    No. From my recent experiences in Thailand, the ATM (exclusive of fees) will always be slightly better.

    The only exceptions I've noticed will be at some places in Vietnam, and the black market in Seoul (it should still be in Namdaemun). The new US hundred bills will get a better rate in those places.

  7. #53018
    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyNuts  [View Original Post]
    ...
    And then I've seen other hotties that were happy to go with old Asian guys after saying no to me. Just curious are you of Asian ethnicity? Or do you let the girl pick you in the gogo? ...
    That has happened to me numerous times, in both Thailand and the Phil. I learned, over the years, to just move on to the next one. In the rare case where it is someone that I just got to have, then I start offering more money. That has always worked for me.

  8. #53017

    Seeking. Gold-mine (literally)

    Never knew BKK would treat me to such wonderful options via seeking. Having used it extensively in the middle east, I went ahead (last week) and got in touch with a few girls via seeking. ST (3-4 hours) ranged from THB6000 all the way till THB20000 (which seemed a bit steep). Chose one of the girls at THB7500 and wow was she an absolute stunner? Everything was on the menu including A-level (extremely tight). 3/4 hours seemed like an absolute dream. Here for another week so meeting another girl (who works at an event management company) later tonight. Will report on it.

  9. #53016
    NICELY done. Looking forward to any continuations. CONTRIBUTIONS such as these are exactly why this forum is so useful.

    Some places insist on tablets, not lineups, especially those of the "factory assembly line" variety. Too disruptive of feeding the line to have the availables come out, line up, choice made, couple minutes later, repeat, repeat, repeat. Don Quixote comes to mind. Still, I DO appreciate the live lineup.

    Best way to do it, IMHO. Why waste time trying to convince a disinterested girl to come with you when there are other attractive ones who do. She should be trying to convince YOU to take her. For me, it just nicely whittles down the pool to true potentials. I do have to find the girl attractive, but the "form over function" I just don't get; perhaps it's an ego trip for the ones who DIDN'T get the prom queen in high school. Myself, I want someone who besides looks, and skill, adds fun and banter. Making googly eyes at someone, hoping that she'll return the gaze, PASS..
    Yeah, I think my reasons for preferring a line up are the same. I just give them a glance with my signature smirk and I look for the twinkle in their eye. Idk how to describe it exactly but it's that flirty look that tells me it'll be worth it. Also after using a bunch of other services and judging by photos, you almost never even get close to what you thought you were getting. I'll post the my reports for the last week, which should hopefully be more detailed since it's fresh.

    Also I hear you're a veteran around these parts so feel free to critique any of my reports for details I may have omitted.

  10. #53015
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    Will I get a better exchange rate cashing in $ 100 USD bills versus using an ATM card exclusive of fees in Thailand.

    So is the actual exchange rate better than the ATM rate with brand new $ 100 USD bills.
    Drawing cash at the ATM will be 3-5% (depending on your bank fees) worse than changing cash at a good money changer. The Thai banks money changing outlets do not offer the best money exchange rates. Especially at the airport arrival area the rates are really bad. The best money changer which is trustworthy and has the best money exchange rates is Superrich. The have many outlets across BKK. Check their exchange rates and locations on their website: https://www.superrichthailand.com/#en / exchange.

  11. #53014
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    On the other hand, some members endlessly pontificate which means I have to wade through repetitious verbiage that to find a nugget. Its all good.
    Imagine sitting next to this guy on a two hour flight. He will make it seem like you are on a 27 hour trip to the Moon.

  12. #53013
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    Will I get a better exchange rate cashing in $ 100 USD bills versus using an ATM card exclusive of fees in Thailand.

    So is the actual exchange rate better than the ATM rate with brand new $ 100 USD bills.
    ATM rate with Schwab seems to be better, if the Schwab fees rebate uses same rate at time of withdrawal. Its been about 15 baht fee, compared to like 21 baht lowest I seen on the kiosk but avg about 30.

  13. #53012
    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo  [View Original Post]
    Pablo, this is not for you, but for the original poster, TjBrazil. Just BUILDING on what you posted for him.

    It's been reported on some forums that some Soi Cowboy bars are pulling ladydrink rip-offs, with overpriced lady drinks, NOT the ones you think you're ordering, multiple lady drinks when you meant one, and other rips. Preventive measures detailed here:

    Wasn't it AfterSkool bar, Cowboy, that had the naughty boy's corner?
    I'll do a reply anyway as I think parts were directed to me.

    Yes it was Afterskool a few times, but even better / sleazier was Fannie's right next door. In fact way more than just a BJ was on offer there and I partook many times. I was a regular at Fannie's for many years, never had very hot girls but I always had a blast as anything goes in there. The past 5 years or so (even before covid) it went way downhill, started hiring the dreaded coyotes and was just terrible. I also went a lot to fannie's sister bars Moonshine and Jungle Jim. Toy Bar is the other but was never as permissive as the other 3.

    I know I've had my bin padded in some Soi Cowboy bars that I won't mention as it was awhile ago and I don't have firm proof. And yeah the girls want to order a tequila coke which is not a single drink but a shot and a side coke which they sip (or drink fast), so you get double billed. I'd allow it sometimes but tried to keep it in check. The deal was the 2 girls with me and my primary girl would give us cover for activities on the couch. I always just took it as the cost of the fun, as I know it was just part of the game. I know I didn't have to buy all the drinks, but I had fun and was a regular back then.

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo  [View Original Post]
    Showing my age, Patpong, a LONG time ago, was notorious for it's upstairs' bars shows, displaying the various utilities that a vagina could be used for, shooting, writing, drinking ... Back then, caution had to be used as some bars were notorious for MAJOR rip-offs. Solution given to me was to pull a bg from Nana have her be my bodyguard. It worked. I vaguely remember recently reading somewhere about some rip-offs having reappeared.
    I haven't been to Patpong since covid, but for me it improved a lot over when it was really bad maybe 10+ years ago. I liked SOL and that I think was the craziest bar there, I walked in on a lot of guys getting BJs right in the open and even one guy doing the deed with a girl right at the bar. There was a girl named rabbit who was notorious there, but damn I guess that was like 15 years ago. I have a trip next month, can anyone tell me their opinion of how Patpong is now?

    As for choosing the girl, sometimes I go after the hottest girl but it rarely works out. If I'm getting a lukewarm vibe or even just some instinctual sense that she's not that interested I pass. I've made some bad choices but for me the key is to trust my instincts while we're hanging out over drinks, before the subject of BF is brought up. I don't bat 1. 000 but I do fairly good taking the ones who are having fun with me and give off a good vibe that they're interested in my company. And yeah it's rarely the hottest girl in the bar unless it's a small place.

    As for girls that won't go I did say all girls go but yeah that's wrong as more and more it seems the number that won't increases. There are the dreaded coyote girls who are there just for eye candy and to lure in customers. If I suspect that's what they are, I ask right off "do you go with customer?" before buying the first drink. I never want to waste time sitting with a coyote where the best outcome is to get her LINE and overpay for her when she gets off work. Then there's also the drink girls in some go gos, like Sapphire in Pattaya which comes to mind as I go there a lot.

    Anyway, love your mentioning of things from the past. I'm not one to say things were better back whenever in the past, things just evolve. Still every time I go, even my trips during the middle of covid when almost everything was shut, are fun. I'll be back late next month and coming with a good friend who's never been there. It's fun to me to show someone new around, the feeling of awe and wonder from them makes me remember wayyyyy back when Thailand was new to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lcale1982  [View Original Post]
    Any one else penny pinchers and figured this out? Thanks!
    Yea. I check too. Same result with Fidelity where the exchange rate is almost identical to what is posted on XE.com.

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    Maybe A Stupid Question

    Will I get a better exchange rate cashing in $ 100 USD bills versus using an ATM card exclusive of fees in Thailand.

    So is the actual exchange rate better than the ATM rate with brand new $ 100 USD bills.

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