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09-24-19 01:33 #46353
Posts: 662Originally Posted by Goatscrot [View Original Post]
(I am sure I would be rejected by a certain percentage of gals on left hand side, because some never bother looking at me when I pass by, though the culture of the place is so weird these days. The girls try to act "demure" per Asian customer preferences).
Anyways. For the one gal I can comment on.
I pay her going rate with no haggling.
(which is 3 K short) . Once she stayed all night I gave her 5). She has told me she will raise prices on guys she doesn't really want to go with (but then has to go with them if they accept).
What she gets from me is nice treatment, even a BFE. She gets her orgasms.
What I get is BBFS, no clockwatching, a great tight snatch and a lovely mouth/ tongue that treats me with "special care" (cannot comment how it treats others).
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09-24-19 00:41 #46352
Posts: 741Originally Posted by Whytho [View Original Post]
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09-23-19 22:56 #46351
Posts: 2Hey guys,
This is my first message on this forum. So I'm visiting Thailand in one month and Singapore after that for a longer time so I hope to provide good reports by then and RTFF.
So far I have read a lot of stuff so I already have my girl friendly hotels reserved, price ranges in mind and everything. The only thing I don't understand is the most stupid one, but from looking specially at those YouTube videos is. How the hell do you get a Gogo girl you like that is dancing on the stage? Am I supposed to smile, wink at them or do they have some kind of ID that I can tell to the mamasan to get them down and then pay the barfine? Really sorry for such a stupid question, but I don't seem to find a proper guide or explanation other than "you drink with a girl that you like, and if you want you pay the bar fine and take her with you".
Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
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09-23-19 16:38 #46350
Posts: 1575Originally Posted by Goatscrot [View Original Post]
I was chatting with another BM about my very short trip to BKK last week. 3 days I shacked up with a girl I know from before, one I had met through TF. On Friday I went down to Thermae at around 11 pm and hung around for an hour watching the crowds milling about rehearsing for prom night. 5555. Then I went and approached a girl I liked and we were out in 15 minutes. She first started with 3 K ST. I said I only like to go LT. She said OK you take care of me. I nodded and we were out. I stayed at Shangri La, so it is quite ride back, but no complaints. Back in the room, no hassles with service. No rush. She stayed well into the day. When I was ready to leave for the airport around 1 pm she even wanted to come to see me off at the airport. I politely refused, kissed her and gave her the money and sent her on her way. And returned to SG in time for the F1 qualifiers.
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09-23-19 06:22 #46349
Posts: 1308Originally Posted by Goatscrot [View Original Post]
And I'm willing to pay whatever I, meaning me and me alone, think is reasonable, because I can. I'm not in this lovely country to spend my time obsessing about some hooker getting an extra $10 out of me. If she has the look I want, then I pay, simple as that. If she doesn't, then she isn't getting her chance. And I am mighty particular. Last night I popped into Thermae and the girls were waving at me to get my attention, probably because I am in there so much just chilling and having a soda and laughing at the foolish way folks act in there. But the ladies know it takes a special someone to get my attention.
And I have all the time in the world to get what I want. I'm not desperate and I surely look a lot better than most of the falangs I see in Thermae.
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09-23-19 03:30 #46348
Posts: 3682Originally Posted by Nyezhov [View Original Post]
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09-23-19 03:25 #46347
Posts: 3682Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste [View Original Post]
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09-23-19 03:23 #46346
Posts: 3682Originally Posted by Syzygies [View Original Post]
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09-23-19 02:31 #46345
Posts: 26DATY with Asian ladies and scammers
So, I have a beard. It's not long, and I try to keep things trimmed to prevent too much irritation, but I think that Asian ladies are; A) not used to DATY in general, with their Asian BFs; and B) younger ladies (especially shaved) are somewhat sensitive to the irritation from a beard. This is why I like ladies that are not too young, as I think they have more experience with the pleasures of DATY, and they are more experienced with farangs with beards. There are no guarantees here, but you make choices to increase your odds. This is why I love Crazy House. The girls are less shy (if they are getting naked in the bar) and I can see what I'm buying. Frankly, the average good looking Thai 30 year old is pretty hot to me, so I'm easy to please in that way. I really don't want a 20 something from Bacarra that is just going to lay there like a rug.
One thing I try to do is motivate a lady with repeat business. I'm usually in town for a week, or so, and I try to hunt as soon as I arrive to maximize the number of potential visits she might get from me, if I'm happy with the service. I think there is a bit of an "art" to mutually picking a lady in a gogo bar. You want a lady that picks you, and you like as well. If there is anything for her at all, I find it leads to a better experience overall. I bar fined the same lady (AOM) from CH almost every night my last trip. She was fun, and genuinely nice, but I think she was looking for a farang BF to help her get away from the gogos.
As for scammers, they are like death and taxes, and unless it's really bad, I wouldn't press things too far with the bar, unless you're not concerned about burning any bridges. The reality is that the ladies and bars are like cable TV and cell phone providers. We pay a bunch of money, and usually things are OK, but if there is a problem, the customer service is next to non-existent. Switching companies (bars) is pointless as they all have their good / bad ladies.
Scammers are everywhere, and it isn't like all the scammers are at Scammers A-gogo. I think ET found a happy medium by saying something to the mamasan, and leaving it there. After all, the bar doesn't care too much as long as they keep getting the barfine, and lady drink profits, from the girl. In fact, a hot girl that gets kicked to the curb before the session is over can make them more money as she can come back to the bar sooner, and get another BF or more lady drinks.
I have typically only done gogo bars for take out, with occasional soapies and oilies, but my last trip I saw some serious lookers on the street around Nana. I had always avoided them out of concern of stories of the ladies trying to drug your drinks to rob you in the hotel. However, I may dip my toes into that pool if I get to visit again, later this year. We'll see how it works out. If I do, I will certainly report back here.
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09-23-19 02:04 #46344
Posts: 1308Where there Are Farang there are Girls
There has been a small surge of talent outside the traditional areas if you are on your game. Try the bigger bars in the W District, On Nut and Phra Khanong. The ones I have seen / chatted with in On Nut are pretty dismal, the ones at W District are OK and I played hide the sausage with one I snagged on Soi 71. Just smile and nod, you will know who they are.
I used to get plenty in Thong Lo, but I was younger and better looking. I'm sure that with this weather cramping my style, in the interests of science, I will head over there too.
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09-22-19 20:59 #46343
Posts: 5452Originally Posted by NattyBumpo [View Original Post]
I would never take a second girl on the spot after getting scammed by another one in a bar. I would just go to another bar.
And there is a technical reason I never ask, demand or expect a bar or any other managed venue in Thailand to give me a refund. It can only be between the girl and me in the context of an, "I will give you X amount of baht IF you do this for me" kind of negotiation. Oh, if the bar wants to make a magnanimous gesture to do it they can. But it happens to me so rarely and the money on the line at that point so minor the money isn't important.
Ah, but you might think the point is to punish or penalize the scammer, right?
Well, technically, since 1992 the government of Thailand has asked bar, brothel, massage shop, etc owners NOT to penalize girls or give refunds to customers who expect to be provided with bareback/no condom sexual activity. That would be me.
And that is even if it is after fair and square negotiation for it and even if a version of such a thing is spelled out on a menu, such as "BBBJ+CIM." Another major reason never to Pay Upfront, while we're on the subject.
That is what the 100% Condom Use movement in Thailand was all about. And, as far as I know, it has not been officially abolished. Not that condoms were required for every sex act, but that any girl at any time for any act and for any reason could demand one and not be penalized or the bar give a refund for her requiring one. That is so even if your brothel, MP or go-go bar girl suddenly demands that you wear a condom to jerk yourself off no closer than 10 feet from her left ear.
Now, it did not come to that in the room with my scammer. But that is all any Thai girl working in a managed venue (not a FL) needs to say was the reason she did not have sex with me if it came to her word against mine.
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09-22-19 19:39 #46342
Posts: 3040Going back to the bar
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
I did this one time ie went back to the mamasan with the girl in hand, but this was not in BKK. I was at 1001 Hotel and Spa in Jakarta. I was in a room with one of their girls. We had showered together and were in bed naked when the girl tried to place a condom on my dick before commencing a BJ. I objected. The girl said this was the only way she would do it. Then she said, "do you want a different girl?" And I said I would prefer you, but if you will not give me a BJ without condom, yes, I want another girl. I should add that I had never done this before ie tried to change girls. So, we put on our clothes and went downstairs to the reception / lounge area and we spoke to the mamasan. I told her my problem and what we had done in the room up to that point. The girl backed me up on my reportage. The mamasan's reaction was; there is no problem. CBJ is what we do here. Girl has done nothing wrong. You can't change girl. You can have 2nd girl and will be charged 2 x or you can go back upstairs and finish or you can pay what you owe and leave. I objected and after failing to convince me of her logic for 10 minutes, she asked if I wanted to talk to the manager. Having gone this far I said yes, I want to talk the manager.
So, the girl and I waited in the lounge area for another 10 minutes until the manager came out to talk with us. I repeated my story. The girl backed me up. The manger said the same thing as mamasan, what's the problem. There is no problem. Our girls don't give BBBJ's. I then said that I had been here many times and almost always received BBBJ's to which the manager asked me to name the girls who gave me BBBJ's. I said no, I am not going to tell (rat) on good girls and get them in trouble. Just take the charge off my tab and I will forget the matter. To wit the manager said sorry can not do that. He spoke to the girl and then said, take the girl back upstairs. I will reset the clock and you will have full time left and this girl will take very good care of you. I said no I don't think so. The vibe between us is no longer good. HA HA. He laughed and said no, it is still very good. This is her job. She will take good care of you and then he said something more to the girl and she nodded again in the affirmative yes. HA HA HA!
So, after fooling around in the lounge area for over 30 minutes I got nowhere. MY choice was to 1. reject the girl on principal, but pay my tab in full or 2. spend the next 3 or 4 hours arguing with security and or the cops or 3. take the girl back upstairs and fuck her brains out regardless about how I felt at the moment. I chose No 3 so the clock was reset and I went back upstairs with the girl in hand for the most unusual sex I have had with a prostitute in over 20 years. 555.
Back in the room, the girl started to go for the shower again and I said, "hey honey we just took a shower 30 minutes ago. Let's get to it." So, I laid down on my back stark nagged and she applied the condom and gave me a BJ while I remained a passive starfish customer with a chip on his shoulder. But she got me kind of hard and asked if she could proceed and I said yeah, so she mounted up and began to ride my dick as I continued to do absolutely nothing. But then I began watching her tits bounce all around as she was riding me pretty damn good and sonofabitch if I didn't start to enjoy it. Ha Ha. So, I cupped her tits and then realized I was rock hard. Eventually I flipped her over into mish and fucked her pretty hard, but not too hard, and sure enough I came in about 25 minutes. The God Damn slimy manager was right. The fuck itself was pretty good and the girl took pretty good care of me. I guess I am just a fuck hound! Anyway, I wasn't mad at the girl anymore. We even laughed a bit while we showered together and then we got dressed. But, as we were leaving the room, she asked me for a tip. So I said, "next time a customer asks you for a BBBJ, give him a BBBJ and do not say no." She responded with, "what about my tip" and I said, "that was my tip to you. Think about it." So, we walked back down to the lounge NOT holding hands and we DID NOT say goodbye. I didn't bother hanging out any further in the lounge or looking over any of the 100 or so other girls there as I usually would. I paid my tab which was 1,400,000 rp for the girl and left. I took a taxi up to CJ's and had shot of Tequila while surveying all the FL's in the bar. I did not take an 2nd girl that night. I was spent.
And that is my story about trying to change girls in a Bordello. It did not work out as I originally envisioned it, but my experience had a strange, quirky ending. BTW, thus far, I haven't gone back to 1001. It has been 2 years since this night occurred. Previously I had been a big fan of the joint and met lots of really great girls there. I probably will go back tentatively on my next visit. They have a ton of young, pretty Indo girls and my percentage there is roughly a plus 60/40 BBBJ's over CBJ's. In the past, I have also enjoyed anal rimmings and BBFS there too. It just depends on the girl and your luck of the draw. But of course, at other bordellos in Jakarta, the odds of receiving a BBBJ is 100% and of getting BBFS is maybe 60% without any negotiation. YMMV.
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09-22-19 17:59 #46341
Posts: 5452Originally Posted by NattyBumpo [View Original Post]
Going back into a bar where a girl has burned you in the recent past just isn't nearly as pleasant as going into a bar where the slate is blank. Or, better yet, a bar where you have had good results and no scams pulled on you.
Going back into a bar where a girl has burned you to report it to the mamasan, while the girl is right there too, is probably too much for most punters to fathom doing. But I suppose there are times when it would bother me more not to do it than to do it. Lol. Could have something to do with the fact that I live here and am not just passing through. I have no excuse for not doing it. It isn't like I am so busy rushing to the next session before heading back to the airport or anything like that.
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09-22-19 17:18 #46340
Posts: 3497Midget
For those who laughed when I told my story about the time I fucked the midget from Soi Cowboy, here's a photo of a somewhat similar midget. What guy in his right mind wouldn't fuck that?
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09-22-19 17:00 #46339
Posts: 3040Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
The last bad one I had was in September 2018 from Badabing A Go Go. She was a pretty girl and very nice in the bar. I took her back to my hotel. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, and bareback sexual intercourse for the 1st 12 minutes was ALL GOOD. Then she started asking if I could finish soon, ha ha, which she continued on with every 60 seconds like a stop watch until I got tired of it and pulled out thus terminating the session. Then she asked if I was mad and began apologizing, telling me that the next time I could take as much time as I wanted. I told her there was no next time only now time, but that I was not mad, only disappointed with her. So, I gave her 2000 baht. Our in the bar agreed upon price was 2500 baht. She did not complain, but asked for taxi money. I gave her 100 baht more just to get rid of her. Then I fixed up the bed, took a quick shower, and went to Nana where I picked up a cute little Chinese replica in RB4 and had a good time.
The moral of the story is that my Badabing girl got away with her bad service and your Butterflies girl got away with her scam because any amount we give them is a plus as far as they, the bad girls, are concerned. They received lady drink commissions, barfine points and received a significant portion of their fee all while shortchanging their respective customers. What can you say? This is the definition of a bad girl. So, I say fuck them and move on. Although I will add that my little episode turned me off on Badabing and I have not gone back or barfined a girl from there since. That may be unfair to the bar, but hey, it is just as easy for me to go to Kings Castle 1 & 2 or Pink Panther and I have never been burned in those bars.