Bangkok Reports

[Explorer8939]

The CCSA held a general meeting chaired by PM Prayut today The official opening of Bars and nightlife venues have been pushed to January 15,2022.

There was rumours it would be November 15, then December 1. Unfortunately opening enterntainment venues does not look likely this year.

Having said this, now that the border is open, there will be more ladies returning to Bangkok. I think the venues to hook up will be very fluid IE will change daily or weekly.

To be clear, January is a "No Earlier Then" date, not a firm opening date.

[RacShack]

So who is confused again?

1. he reported first. "As for the rest of Soi 4, I only walked to Hillary 2, which was open, a bit busy, with some live music and lots of people, but not my cup of tea. I never hung out there even in when Bangkok was at its best. The talent just isn't there. It's like a has been type of atmosphere with bad karaoke, filled with fake laughter. Just too weird for me."

You responded after. "he also never mentioned anything about Hillary 2 on Soi Nana / Soi 4 being open at the time of his first report, one of the largest beer bars on that soi offering food, drink, pool, girls."

(Hiliary 2 was clearly written).

2. he reported first. "There are a few make shift bars with music and people behind curtains on that same Soi (referring to Biergarten which is 7), just to the left as you make your way in. But once again, the talent level was simply yuck. Not a very happening place to be. It's the same feeling you get the you walk into a GoGo bar, and there are a bunch of fuglies trying to dance on stage, the mamasan comes and says "you can choose," and you just want to leave, but too embarrassed for them (not you). Yeah, it's like that."

You responded after. "tell him to walk "down" Soi 7 a short distance some evening and make a left turn into the collection of a dozen or so bars often packed with girls, many Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and Patpong go-go girls as well as Thermae girls (from normal times) looking for customers and ready to party."

(Sure sounds like the same Soi here, but different beer goggles).

3. he reported first. "So I walked into those Soi 7 beer bars last Saturday night as well. There seems to be some glorification of of what's going on the ground. The girls remind me of lower end Soi 6 girls. Really. It wasn't packed 200 plus, maybe 50 girls (for all the clusters of bars total) at the most and the customers that were "young, fit, fairly good looking athletic guys" were not there. I only saw about 20 expat customers and this was at 8:15 pm."

You responded after. "So you stopped by those bars on Wednesday or Thursday night and apparently still saw about 50 girls there."

(Saturday was clearly written).

4. You reported first. "However, since all those bars have been rocking, packed with tons of girls and were legally permitted to be open since at least November 1. "

He responded after. "Bars and entertainment venues have not been allowed to open in Bangkok as of November 1st. What has been allowed is venues serving food (mainly restaurants), that have been SHA certified to be able to serve alcohol unit 9 pm. These approved establishments will have an SHA certificate proudly displayed with a certificate number that is registered in a database."

(The word legally should have never been used. Can get people in trouble. Nothing is legal about these police traps).

5. You reported first. "Today I was told by one of my go-go girl favorites that some Nana Plaza go-go bars will re-open on November 16. I have not heard anything about Soi Cowboy go-go bars or Patpong go-go bars specifically but I assume if they can re-open in Nana Plaza they can re-open anywhere in the city."

Richard Barrow has reported after. "Jan 15th at the earliest."

(Who listens to Gogo bar girls about legal shit anyways?

So I have to ask once more, are you sure you are okay? Just a wellness check pal. And now to my buddy's final report below.

.. But even Random Bar, the biggest one right on Soi 7 has been openly serving booze, providing live entertainment and hosting dozens of girls on their busiest nights since November 1...

I find it very odd how there is no mention of ladyboys working at these horseshoe cluster of beer bars on Soi 7 and at Random. Spot them the first time I walked in. There are a shit load and they are mixed in with the girls. There is even a silly pole stage with one or two dancers. Funny how the expats who are supposed to be reporting, leave it out about the ladyboys. Wonder why? And no the do not openly serve booze. Few bottles liquor are locked in a silver cooler and everything else like mixers, are in one of those blue coolers you see with the beach chair vendors. Cups are opaque large plastic ones used at kids birthday parties. The bill handwritten doesn't specify alcohol, so yes it's all down low, not in the open. The venues know they are breaking the law. There is a very talented lesbo tom who sings in the mic at Random. She gets pissed when I try to pinch her tits. Talent is there in her voice though.

To his credit, the talent at these Soi 7 beer bars seems to be getting slightly better than before, but still only a handful I would mess with. I took another one just last night. She was young, taller, skinny, long hair, dyed with two different colors right and left (light and dark). No barfine needed. I did buy her a drink. These girls told me they don't work for the bar. They can come and go as they please. The bars don't have any money to pay a guaranteed salary. So if anybody paid a barfine, they probably were silly enough to pay barfines at Thermae as well. Unless they were just joking and telling a fantastic story with more holes than Swiss cheese. They are desperate freelancers. 1000 baht 1 hour for her with one leg raised on the window sill, fucking her from behind, while pinching the shit out of her cllt, with her titties pressed against the glass. She screamed pretty loud when my thumb went into her ass. I think some might have noticed, but who cares. Wonder why girls forget where your fingers have been when you shove them in their mouths? Luckily it was close to 9 and not many people walking on the BTS skywalk. Some but not many, I was kinda busy. You can look at porn with no problem, but want to cry about voyeurism. Funny. One more time. There is no barfine because all entertainment venues are supposed to be closed.

[Member #4753]

The CCSA held a general meeting chaired by PM Prayut today The official opening of Bars and nightlife venues have been pushed to January 15,2022.

There was rumours it would be November 15, then December 1. Unfortunately opening enterntainment venues does not look likely this year.

Having said this, now that the border is open, there will be more ladies returning to Bangkok. I think the venues to hook up will be very fluid IE will change daily or weekly.

[EihTooms]

How EihTooms described Soi 7 is quite accurate. The bars form a horseshow pattern where you enter off soi 7 to the left and there are many more bars etc along sub sois and eventually they lead back out into Soi 7 again. If you did not enter you would not notice that there is quite a lot of bars and women in there.

Since November 1 when quasi restaurants / bars, can serve alcohol again there has been a pick up in activity. Albiet rather muted. Mostly expats getting out for a drink again joined by a few 1000 arrivals. So the numbers are still thin on the ground and activity is very patchy. Some places seem good 1 night and the next night dead again or limping along again.

I went out to Soi 7 one night and it was pumping, then the next night dead. This was a few days after November 1, so I guess many more expats were coming out.

Soi 11 was probably the area that the curtain bars were referred to. There is a bunch of outside eateries half way up Soi 11 on the left which now have 2 rows of curtains out the front of each little row of establishments. There is probably 6 or so in a row. Once you pull back 1 curtain, then enter the second curtain it is just like a normal bar pre covid. These bars have been operating for the last few months and have been quite busy. There has been working girls in there but with their boyfriend rather than having large numbers of free girls on the hunt. I am sure some were available though. The police are always hanging around so are well aware of what is happening and surely directly the brown paper bags to the correct people higher up.

Soi 4 has been open since Nov 01. It is building but without Nana open missing its biggest draw the 20 or so establishments open never seem to be more than 1/3 full at the moment. It is worth a wander through.

Soi 8 has a few new restaurants / bars. Some nights it is quite lively but still nothing special. It is worth dropping by when in lower sukhumwit.

Summary: I have been surprised how some activity has sprung up relatively quickly. It is a mere shadow of pre covid, but way better than seeing these places dark and completely shuttered. If there is not another major covid outbreak these places might look half decent after Christmas. At the moment I would not jump on a plane to come here, but Jan or Feb it might be worth it.

Yes I thought the fellow who wrote that report got the "curtain" bars on Soi 11 confused with what existed on Soi 7 too. But he never responded to my reply and request for clarification about it. So who knows.

I think it is worth pointing out that curtains to "hide" the drinking activity in Soi 11 bars or the way the little passage off Soi 7 is naturally shaped to "hide" the drinking activity back there has nothing to do with preventing the police or boys in brown from knowing all about it. They know all about it.

It has everything to do with preventing it from being so blatantly obvious to even the casual passerby that it makes the authorities in charge look bad for not doing something about it or clearly complicit and supportive of the activity.

Curtains on a well traveled soi like Soi 11 and the little bend down that passage on Soi 7 provide at least some "buffer of deniability" on the issue.

[Member #4753]

How EihTooms described Soi 7 is quite accurate. The bars form a horseshow pattern where you enter off soi 7 to the left and there are many more bars etc along sub sois and eventually they lead back out into Soi 7 again. If you did not enter you would not notice that there is quite a lot of bars and women in there.

Since November 1 when quasi restaurants / bars, can serve alcohol again there has been a pick up in activity. Albiet rather muted. Mostly expats getting out for a drink again joined by a few 1000 arrivals. So the numbers are still thin on the ground and activity is very patchy. Some places seem good 1 night and the next night dead again or limping along again.

I went out to Soi 7 one night and it was pumping, then the next night dead. This was a few days after November 1, so I guess many more expats were coming out.

Soi 11 was probably the area that the curtain bars were referred to. There is a bunch of outside eateries half way up Soi 11 on the left which now have 2 rows of curtains out the front of each little row of establishments. There is probably 6 or so in a row. Once you pull back 1 curtain, then enter the second curtain it is just like a normal bar pre covid. These bars have been operating for the last few months and have been quite busy. There has been working girls in there but with their boyfriend rather than having large numbers of free girls on the hunt. I am sure some were available though. The police are always hanging around so are well aware of what is happening and surely directly the brown paper bags to the correct people higher up.

Soi 4 has been open since Nov 01. It is building but without Nana open missing its biggest draw the 20 or so establishments open never seem to be more than 1/3 full at the moment. It is worth a wander through.

Soi 8 has a few new restaurants / bars. Some nights it is quite lively but still nothing special. It is worth dropping by when in lower sukhumwit.

Summary: I have been surprised how some activity has sprung up relatively quickly. It is a mere shadow of pre covid, but way better than seeing these places dark and completely shuttered. If there is not another major covid outbreak these places might look half decent after Christmas. At the moment I would not jump on a plane to come here, but Jan or Feb it might be worth it.

[EihTooms]

Corrected again.

Whoever wrote, "However, since all those bars have been rocking, packed with tons of girls and were legally permitted to be open since at least November 1."

Which is misinformation. Luckily, I don't mind setting people straight. Bars and entertainment venues HAVE NOT been allowed to open in Bangkok as of November 1st. What has been allowed is venues serving food (mainly restaurants), that have been SHA certified to be able to serve alcohol unit 9 pm. These approved establishments will have an SHA certificate proudly displayed with a certificate number that is registered in a database. So there is no "were legally permitted" thing as was written.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business...ite-sha-clinic

Exactly like the article reads. Plus, on Sunday I was eating at Burger King next to Nana and met an inspector / cop preparing for inspection / raid. I pretended to be a newly arrived tourist and asked him about the rules. He said exactly what I wrote above. I asked him for recommendations to where to hang out and he told me to avoid places that DO NOT have the certificates and look like bars with fly by night BBQ pits outside. And he noted the ones on Soi 7. He said they know everything that goes on. So for expats in BKK who think they are some covert secret society with all this hidden information, that's funny as heck.

In order for the police to collect tea money or raid money, the owners of these shady businesses have to be able to accumulate money in the first place. This is how the war on drugs work and so does the world of corruption. So they let the sales go on until it's time to collect and pay up. And yes, the entire Sukhumvit are their eyes and ears from the viagra and sex toys vendors, beggars, fruit stands, motors taxis and much much more. It's an entire network. So please, don't think by not discussing open bars on sex forum, you are somehow one step ahead of the police here in Thailand and doing everybody a favor. What did people think happened when Lisa on the Beach Bar got raided in Pattaya? That bar was located almost next to the police station. Foreigners got arrested and fined and then the bar reopened up the next night. Mean to tell me owners didn't know and weren't involved? They create this false blanket of security as if they got some magic stick to allow them to break the rules.

So I walked into those Soi 7 beer bars last Saturday night as well. There seems to be some glorification of of what's going on the ground. The girls remind me of lower end Soi 6 girls. Really. It wasn't packed 200 plus, maybe 50 girls (for all the clusters of bars total) at the most and the customers that were "young, fit, fairly good looking athletic guys" were not there. I only saw about 20 expat customers and this was at 8:15 pm. Soi Nana was not much better. Looks that those pics. I am not sure why anybody would write that. Just think about it. It's a group of beer bars with no SHA certificates, no masks, illegally operating. So you are telling me these super hot girls that used to work in Gogo bars and Thermae are suddenly desperate enough to work out of these bar bars? The hotter ones are usually the smarter ones who know how to take care of themselves and their looks. Did they get dumb and stupid all of the sudden to risk working in illegal bars which can be raided at anytime? And outside Nana Plaza was not much better. Never once have I ever saw any talent worth getting from Stumble Inn or Morning Night in any of my trips to Thailand. Fun to me is not sitting and staring at the empty streets with scattered ladyboys, with a warm beer paid for the seat.

And if you have to pay 500 baht barfine to a girl you already know, during these low and slow times, then you have a problem. Especially, if you already had BBFS and GFE with her before. I have been in Thailand 20 months now. And as a tourist, no an expat or remote worker. I have not paid a barfine, even when everything was opened. Whether the girl was a new one or an old flame or a repeat. Who the heck pays for a barfine, when there is no alcohol sales after 9 pm? Seems like glorification at its best. Maybe it was all written in jest.

I even sat down and bought a 100 baht beer at the center bar when you walked in. The best looking thing was in that entire group of beer bars was a manager or PR girl just as you walk in. When I said best, I was am very nice. I spent about 15 minutes allowing her to grope my dick inside my shorts for a drink before I left. Funny thing is I saw her greet another customer and touches his face with the same hand. Nasty. On another night, there was a thin girl with dark hair, almost bob like haircut, wearing small shorts who tried to pull me in for drinks. She was walking on Soi 7 with another girl. We walked in together to those set of beer bars and I immediately wanted to walk out because it was dead. She was like "I go with you. " And so she did. No barfine and 1000ST. She was about the only decent thing I've seen in Soi 7, the entire 45 days I've been here. I took her to my room nearby and fucked her ass naked with her face and tits pressed against the glass of the window, in my room, overlooking the BTS skywalk. Told her my window was one way only. I left the light on when it was time to walk her back. And pointed to my room from the outside. You can see everything, She was pissed, so I tipped her 50 baht. But yeah, there is still better talent to be found with incalls and outcalls for 1500. See the pic pf what the cat dragged in a few days ago for 1500. Used the open window on her as well.

The reason I concluded your friend "missed it. It happens," based on the reports of his you posted originally is because it really was easy at the time of his first report to miss that collection of a dozen or so bars on Soi 7 unless you turn left off of Soi 7 and actually walk down that little passage between Sukhumvit Road and Beer Garden, particularly when there might have been only 1-2 bars with any girls working in them ON Soi 7 at the time of his first report. Which your friend's first report did not say he did. Instead, he said something about bars with curtains and people behind them (whatever that was) and then he checked out Beer Garden and left. I have been with punters who were intent on checking out Beer Garden on Soi 7 and walked right past that little passage without a clue there was a collection of bars, often packed with girls and customers, right after the passage makes a small right turn.

That's why I replied to that original report and asked for more details about those supposed bars with "curtains and people behind them." But neither you nor your friend replied, which further supported my assumption that he had no idea what else to say about some supposed bars like that and that "he missed it."

In fact, it was probably because the bars down that little passage were not easily visible to the casual passerby that they have been open and hosting girls pretty much since the major closures began months and months ago without being raided.

Yes, official badge or not, like virtually every beer bar on Soi Nana/Soi 4 now, even they can pretend to be "restaurants" instead of strictly bars and serve alcohol without much worry of being raided as late as 9PM since November 1. If anything, they can jump into the pretense even faster if ever necessary since the bulk of them down that little passage is relatively "hidden." But even Random Bar, the biggest one right on Soi 7 has been openly serving booze, providing live entertainment and hosting dozens of girls on their busiest nights since November 1, three days before your friend said he only walked "towards" Soi 7 to see what girls were hanging out on Sukhumvit Road and not "down" Soi 7.

So you stopped by those bars on Wednesday or Thursday night and apparently still saw about 50 girls there. Ok. That's still quite a bit more girls than your friend ever suggested were there when all he reported on were some weird bars with "curtains and people behind them." Nobody said anything about "super hot" girls, btw. Or "the hottest girls ever', the "hottest girls who worked in Thermae during normal times" or anything of the kind. Still, you and your friend should have been there last Friday and Saturday night. Looks like you both have "missed it" up to now.

And if you have to pay 500 baht barfine to a girl you already know, during these low and slow times, then you have a problem. Especially, if you already had BBFS and GFE with her before. I have been in Thailand 20 months now. And as a tourist, no an expat or remote worker. I have not paid a barfine, even when everything was opened. Whether the girl was a new one or an old flame or a repeat. Who the heck pays for a barfine, when there is no alcohol sales after 9 pm? Seems like glorification at its best. Maybe it was all written in jest.

Well, you see here's the deal with that. First, particularly as an expat living here, I am interested in supporting the bars, keeping them open to attract more and better girls to the area at all times. If there was ever a time not to screw the bar out of whatever reasonable money they could rake in by opening their doors and, yes, even taking the kind of chances you feel they are taking by doing so and hosting tons more girls over time, this is it.

Second, I know some of these girls want to be seen by the bar owners and the other girls getting the barfine from a customer and walking out with him. It is a feather in their cap, especially if the guy might be one the other girls would very much prefer walking out with instead of sitting with the lonely, broken down, fat, old alcoholics your friend characterized as the primary customers for these venues. It demonstrates to the bar owners what kind of customer the girl can get and ought to be brought to or pointed out to the customer as often as possible rather than the alternative. Some girls have actually told me that was the reason. Maybe you have never been a factor in that kind of bargirl tactic. 500 baht is no big deal for me to give them for that feather in their cap "gift."

How important can it be to them? I have had bar girls finally drop their already negotiated down asking price by the cost of the barfine so I will take them out right now instead of waiting for them to show up at my room after their bar closes. So it's either pay the 500 baht to the bar now or pay it to her directly later. I suspect that was the case here too. And I like to be seen by other girls in a bar walking out with cute young girls seemingly absolutely thrilled about it and clinging to me like their highschool sweetheart. My experience has been it greatly improves the chances of them wanting to replace her next time and on whatever DFK, Shaved Pussy, BBFS+CIP and/or BBBJ+CIM+Swallow terms I state.

Third, now that the girl in question got her jollies by me paying the 500 baht barfine and walking out of the bar with her, she has contacted me almost every day asking to see me anytime, no barfine.

Fourth, I don't care if the bar closes at 2AM, 11PM or 9PM, my days of "saving" the piddling cost of a barfine and waiting dutifully in my room or wherever like a sick puppy for a girl I want to fuck to leave the bar, leave her friends, skip the communal eating or drinking after hours (or not) and fucking her on HER time schedule are over. I've been here long enough and gotten "no barfine" or even "free" after hours fucks from the girls here often enough to know the best Real Sex for me will not be happening after the girl has gotten all the Ladydrinks she can put into her body until the bar closes and the customers leave, when she is tired, sleepy, possibly fucked out from 1-2 Short Times already and might pass out in someone else's bed in a drunken stupor and not show up at all.

Been there, done that. I can afford the 500 baht and get her at her prime at a time of the evening when she is actually "working" for the money, not "sleeping" for it and precisely the hour I want to fuck her on MY schedule.

[RacShack]

That is low, very low. Just because some girls don't look pretty and have to sell their body doesn't mean they are to be made fun of or taken advantage of.

You can still behave in a respectful manner.

That was a classless act. I hope you at least had the lights out while she was pressed against the window.

Haha. Sorry about the confusion. But I was just passing along a report from a buddy. You should see some of his hundreds of porn vids with these girls. Tie them up, gags them, and shoves his feet in their mouths. But strangely, sex is done with a condom on. So I wonder who is the pot and who is the kettle?

On a related note, a big new beerbar just opened on Soi 8 in the old Via Vai Italian restaurant location across from Monsoon called Rumour's Soi 8. Bar, pool, girls.

I think Soi 8 is slowly turning into a mini Soi Nana/Soi 4 bar area. But just beerbars, no go-go bars. Yet.

Once again, More glorification than actuality. My buddy sent me a pic last night. Dead and empty. Bars and entertainment venues are still illegal and are just traps. In Bangkok, it's alcohol only up to 9 pm in SHA certified restaurants. There is still a ban on unapproved social gatherings, especially around alcohol.

Sky Mountain in Pattaya was just raided again for the 4th time. Like he mentioned previously. The if the police hasn't shut them down and it keeps happening, those owners are all a part of the game. And the patrons are the sacrificial lamb.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...only-until-9pm

[NicFrenchy]

I took her to my room nearby and fucked her ass naked with her face and tits pressed against the glass of the window, in my room, overlooking the BTS skywalk. Told her my window was one way only. I left the light on when it was time to walk her back. And pointed to my room from the outside. You can see everything, She was pissed, so I tipped her 50 baht.

That is low, very low. Just because some girls don't look pretty and have to sell their body doesn't mean they are to be made fun of or taken advantage of.

You can still behave in a respectful manner.

[Banana Boi]

Mo Chit station (from outside Bangkok) and try to get to the MRT Mo Chit with your luggage. Taxis didn't take me. Not even when I made clear to agree with any price. Ended up in a Tuk-tuk.

I don't see why not unless it's a Saturday or Sunday when Chatuchak market is open.

Getting a taxi from Khao San to Asok in rush hour seemed impossible. Until I proposed the nearest BTS station.

No taxi driver wants to drive to Asok and Sukhumvit during rush hour unless youi find one of BionicMan's taxi drivers who don't mind sitting in heavy traffic.

In Indonesia I used Go-jek and they did a good job,

Always try using Bluebird in Jakarta.

[HorseTrader]

…I took her to my room nearby and fucked her ass naked with her face and tits pressed against the glass of the window, in my room, overlooking the BTS skywalk. Told her my window was one way only. I left the light on when it was time to walk her back. And pointed to my room from the outside. You can see everything, She was pissed,…

That was a classless act. I hope you at least had the lights out while she was pressed against the window.

[EihTooms]

...
If people take a motor taxi do you wear a helmet? I had an accident with helmet when I was still young. Now I won't take a ride without helmet.

In my hometown a lot of youngsters bought scooters and motor cycles. Seems Corona related. What to do with time and money. Now I get the idea that this is not a local thing.

Some motorcycle taxi drivers here hand you a helmet and won't take you unless you wear it, some don't.

[Nyezhov]

Exactly that. All it achieves is it teaches Somying and Somchai that it is ok to overcharge the Foreigner, because they don't know and they will pay.

No foreigner needs to teach a Thai, Cambodian, Chinese, Mexican, Columbian, Dominican, Romanian etc how to gouge or overcharge.

[RacShack]

"

Other expats and I chatted by PM about that report and could not decide if he was omitting any mention of those things and more accurate info on the Soi 7 bars down that small alley because he did not want to subject them to a possible raid or because he never actually found them. See, many of us expats living here had not mentioned or posted reports on them and I did not mention them more fully in my reply because we did not want to subject them to a possible raid, which was a risk at the time.

However, since all those bars have been rocking, packed with tons of girls and were legally permitted to be open since at least November 1, three days before your friend's recent survey of the area where he only mentioned going "towards" Soi 7 but never mentioned walking "down" Soi 7 to actually enter those bars and that he was afraid to walk down to look at Soi Nana/Soi 4 where he would have seen several bars open and hosting a lot of girls, it seemed pretty obvious it was because he had missed them.

Of course, nobody can account for what kind of girls show up in bars or what the scene is like at every hour of every night. That is true even during the best of normal times. But I assure you any good looking girl your friend saw anywhere in public in the lower Sukhumvit area over the past 40 days has passed through and planted herself in those bar areas I mentioned above on a regular basis. Maybe the fleeting few seconds he looked at those places from a distance before he walked away in disgust the only girls around were "yuck" and the scene sucked.

All I can say is any night I have gone to those places over the past several weeks a big percentage of the customers crowded in there are young, fit, fairly good looking athletic guys who don't appear to me the types who have much trouble getting well laid by attractive girls in their own country for free. They might never have even bothered looking for info on a sight like this one much less reported on it. Yet, they are THERE in those bars partying with girls I would say are at least on par with the photos you posted and walking out with them looking quite happy about it.

No hot girls there? Yes, I suppose that is a matter of opinion. Only Ladydrink hustlers? Yes, there are some girls who are only there to hustle drinks and not barfine. Ask the girl if she goes with customers before you buy a drink. Maybe the best looking among them are only drink hustlers. Again, that can be true in many bars even during the best of normal times.

However, I had to fight my way through plenty of MORE than doable girls at those Soi 7 bars last night to get to an adorable little spinner Rainbow 2 girl I took once from that Nana Plaza go-go bar just pre-Covid who at that time would not budge from 3,000 plus barfine for Short Time. Last night I paid 500 barfine and she enthusiastically agreed to 2,000 for Long Time from about 9:30pm until 10am this morning, DFK, BBBJ, beautiful hairless pussy, no baby, lovely natural tits, BBFS+CIP no problem for me and agreed to upfront before barfine, great Real GFE and attitude. And there was no weird surprise when she showed up at my room as an escort or outcall because she was right there live and in-person where I took her.

Is that what your friend is getting with his 1,500 baht outcall girls? If so, good for him. As a 68 year old I guess ok-looking farang I was rather pleased with what I paid and got for my money all night last night and this morning.

IMHO, anyone who took your friend's first report and especially his most recent one to heart and followed suit missed out on a ton of damn good pussy options at half the usual going rate or less all in.

Sure, as always, YMMV.

Corrected again.

Whoever wrote, "However, since all those bars have been rocking, packed with tons of girls and were legally permitted to be open since at least November 1."

Which is misinformation. Luckily, I don't mind setting people straight. Bars and entertainment venues HAVE NOT been allowed to open in Bangkok as of November 1st. What has been allowed is venues serving food (mainly restaurants), that have been SHA certified to be able to serve alcohol unit 9 pm. These approved establishments will have an SHA certificate proudly displayed with a certificate number that is registered in a database. So there is no "were legally permitted" thing as was written.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business...ite-sha-clinic

Exactly like the article reads. Plus, on Sunday I was eating at Burger King next to Nana and met an inspector / cop preparing for inspection / raid. I pretended to be a newly arrived tourist and asked him about the rules. He said exactly what I wrote above. I asked him for recommendations to where to hang out and he told me to avoid places that DO NOT have the certificates and look like bars with fly by night BBQ pits outside. And he noted the ones on Soi 7. He said they know everything that goes on. So for expats in BKK who think they are some covert secret society with all this hidden information, that's funny as heck.

In order for the police to collect tea money or raid money, the owners of these shady businesses have to be able to accumulate money in the first place. This is how the war on drugs work and so does the world of corruption. So they let the sales go on until it's time to collect and pay up. And yes, the entire Sukhumvit are their eyes and ears from the viagra and sex toys vendors, beggars, fruit stands, motors taxis and much much more. It's an entire network. So please, don't think by not discussing open bars on sex forum, you are somehow one step ahead of the police here in Thailand and doing everybody a favor. What did people think happened when Lisa on the Beach Bar got raided in Pattaya? That bar was located almost next to the police station. Foreigners got arrested and fined and then the bar reopened up the next night. Mean to tell me owners didn't know and weren't involved? They create this false blanket of security as if they got some magic stick to allow them to break the rules.

So I walked into those Soi 7 beer bars last Saturday night as well. There seems to be some glorification of of what's going on the ground. The girls remind me of lower end Soi 6 girls. Really. It wasn't packed 200 plus, maybe 50 girls (for all the clusters of bars total) at the most and the customers that were "young, fit, fairly good looking athletic guys" were not there. I only saw about 20 expat customers and this was at 8:15 pm. Soi Nana was not much better. Looks that those pics. I am not sure why anybody would write that. Just think about it. It's a group of beer bars with no SHA certificates, no masks, illegally operating. So you are telling me these super hot girls that used to work in Gogo bars and Thermae are suddenly desperate enough to work out of these bar bars? The hotter ones are usually the smarter ones who know how to take care of themselves and their looks. Did they get dumb and stupid all of the sudden to risk working in illegal bars which can be raided at anytime? And outside Nana Plaza was not much better. Never once have I ever saw any talent worth getting from Stumble Inn or Morning Night in any of my trips to Thailand. Fun to me is not sitting and staring at the empty streets with scattered ladyboys, with a warm beer paid for the seat.

And if you have to pay 500 baht barfine to a girl you already know, during these low and slow times, then you have a problem. Especially, if you already had BBFS and GFE with her before. I have been in Thailand 20 months now. And as a tourist, no an expat or remote worker. I have not paid a barfine, even when everything was opened. Whether the girl was a new one or an old flame or a repeat. Who the heck pays for a barfine, when there is no alcohol sales after 9 pm? Seems like glorification at its best. Maybe it was all written in jest.

I even sat down and bought a 100 baht beer at the center bar when you walked in. The best looking thing was in that entire group of beer bars was a manager or PR girl just as you walk in. When I said best, I was am very nice. I spent about 15 minutes allowing her to grope my dick inside my shorts for a drink before I left. Funny thing is I saw her greet another customer and touches his face with the same hand. Nasty. On another night, there was a thin girl with dark hair, almost bob like haircut, wearing small shorts who tried to pull me in for drinks. She was walking on Soi 7 with another girl. We walked in together to those set of beer bars and I immediately wanted to walk out because it was dead. She was like "I go with you. " And so she did. No barfine and 1000ST. She was about the only decent thing I've seen in Soi 7, the entire 45 days I've been here. I took her to my room nearby and fucked her ass naked with her face and tits pressed against the glass of the window, in my room, overlooking the BTS skywalk. Told her my window was one way only. I left the light on when it was time to walk her back. And pointed to my room from the outside. You can see everything, She was pissed, so I tipped her 50 baht. But yeah, there is still better talent to be found with incalls and outcalls for 1500. See the pic pf what the cat dragged in a few days ago for 1500. Used the open window on her as well.

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BB and others: Thanks for the tips.

About Grab. I think I used a Grab car: the guy used a medical car (ambulance for those that can still walk but need to be picked up and brought to the hospital, hence my reservations), so I guess not a grab taxi but car. In Indonesia I used Go-jek and they did a good job, using Maps and GPS well. Grab car didn't. I picked the hotel on the map while ordering but they picked it by name and drove me to a totally different hotel, that shared part of the name and was a bit more well known. But there is still the possibility that I misunderstood. So, how can I be sure to have Grab car.

If you want to be puzzled by Bangkok's transport system then take a bus to Mo Chit station (from outside Bangkok) and try to get to the MRT Mo Chit with your luggage. Taxis didn't take me. Not even when I made clear to agree with any price. Ended up in a Tuk-tuk.

Getting a taxi from Khao San to Asok in rush hour seemed impossible. Until I proposed the nearest BTS station. Driver took me to Ratcha Tewi. From there I took the BTS to Asok.

If people take a motor taxi do you wear a helmet? I had an accident with helmet when I was still young. Now I won't take a ride without helmet.

In my hometown a lot of youngsters bought scooters and motor cycles. Seems Corona related. What to do with time and money. Now I get the idea that this is not a local thing.

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In these types of guys who import their western concepts of value from their homeland to Asia, that has created a void in members contributing actionable intel, you don't want your favourite girls / bars etc suddenly going from 1500 baht to 7000 b because he thinks its good value and can't be bothered to haggle, which is expected in Asia.

Exactly that. All it achieves is it teaches Somying and Somchai that it is ok to overcharge the Foreigner, because they don't know and they will pay.