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  1. #51011

    Japanese tourists.

    I read today in the Bangkok Post that Japanese tourists have declined 95% from a couple of years ago. That's remarkable. Since they are well known for certain haunts such as Rainbow and other venues in NEP, this must be having a drastic decline in income for the staff at these places. Also, I wonder what Thermae is like? When I was last in Bangkok in March 2020, it was not worth going to Thermae since I got the brush off so frequently. They have a reputation there of only catering to the Japanese crowd.

  2. #51010
    I'm in Bangkok for next couple weeks so any reports for specific places and girls will be much appreciated for GFE experience. I've burned a lot of cash on forgettable experiences so far.

    I saw three girls from fiwfans and had two mediocre experiences and one GFE / Pornstar experience. Her name was Miya on Khlong Toei District. Sukhumvit 16 Spark Hotel. They all don't look as perfect as the website but she fit my personal preferences and I'm guessing she is older than what's posted but I've seen her multiple times and will continue to be my afternoon visit while I'm here. She works for repeat business no doubt. She is going to Hong Kong on the 29th though.

  3. #51009

    Duanporn's BJ bar

    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    As for BJ bars, I'd say the best one now is Duangporn's (former Soms) with a fair number of performers, BJ bars on soi 7/ x are open, Kasalong is open with 2 rough looking women. Star of Light is closed, sadly..
    Hi,

    Every time I go to Bangkok I visit Toom at Duanporn's. Best BJ ever for me.

    Any other talent there?

    Thanks.

  4. #51008

    Suggestion Required

    Hello brothers,

    I'll be landing in BKK next week, and was looking forward to have my A+ fetish fulfilled. Upon research I can see that there are a few PSE massage shops which offer that, however the quality of girls aren't that good (as per my understanding).

    Can anybody recommend any girls are decent looking, fun to be with and do A+? Apart from Tulips, any FiwFans girl recommendation will also work.

  5. #51007

    The 90 Days Residence Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    It never goes downhill, it just changes.

    As a fresh faced newbie in the 80's, the old timers were biatching about the old days. R&R days.

    Hell I had old days at 44 baht to the dollar. Sure been downhill since then, except now I have more money, so when I show up its uphill or even.

    One thing that has gone downhill since I stepped ashore is Thailand itself, hell of a lot less freewheeling than the old days. Those who stand on line every 90 days know what I mean.

    But regardless, if there is one thing that's constant, its guys like Goat and Eih that provide the real detailed info. Thanks boys.
    Speaking of the 90 Days Residence Report, the physical location for that in Bangkok has returned to the big Immigration Office in Chaengwattana. I was there to submit mine in person about a week ago, I showed up during their 12 noon to 1 PM lunch break and when it reopened after lunch there was practically no queue line at all. Maybe 20 people sitting in chairs ahead of me. I was in and out within 20 minutes.

    I used to do it by mail, which was very easy and the only cost was for a stamp on the envelope and another one on a self-addressed envelope inside that one for the receipt to be mailed back to me. Then, during the Covid closures, my receipt got "lost in the mail" and it cost me 2000 baht in penalty fees to submit my next report form without that receipt. At that time the lady behind the counter said, "Oh yeah, a lot of people are not getting their receipt in the mail now."

    There was an app to do it online but it never worked for me and many others. The line to submit it in person around that time was longer than before the app.

    Now I think the app is gone but it appears we can submit it online through a Thai Immigration website. Maybe doing by mail is on again too. That might account for why there were so few people there to submit it in person a couple of weeks ago.

    I don't know if this online method will work for me next time, about 80 days from now. But at least I was able to register for it in advance here, unlike that lame app before:

    https://www.immigration.go.th/en/?page_id=1666

  6. #51006
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    It gets worse than that. Online, often you're the one being filtered out, and being a Farang is working against you. I had a few ok experiences, but online scene is just not my thing. For me, taking a long stroll among a bunch of eager hookers and picking one is 60% of the fun, often better than the session itself.

    If I'm going to do all the legwork, might as well go for a civilian and squeeze several sessions for "free" out of that while pretending to have a normal relationship. I realize that's not an option after a certain age, but it still in the age bracket where it works, albeit just barely.
    If the oilies were still the way they were in the late 00's and early 10's, I certainly wouldn't be messing with the online scene. But unfortunately, they are not. Chasing civilian chicks just isn't possible for me.
    Yes there are some that aren't okay with Western dudes, but the same was true in Thermae and in many Go-Go's.

  7. #51005
    Quote Originally Posted by Plan77  [View Original Post]
    Great writeup Goat. I don't think most people today can even imagine what kind of talent was available just few years ago. Then it all started going downhill,.

    I am a bit surprised by your mentioning of some success with online girls. You did mention taking time to research but that is something that is quite difficult and dangerous for most punters when they are still in the home town. Think wife LOL.

    I love the option to inspect goods personally and have a little discussion to gauge language skills and willingness to go the extra mile. Not sure how one can achieve this level if filtration while dealing with girls and their photoshopped pictures.
    In order to really get better reviews and better pictures you have to join the telegram groups where the local lads post reviews of the gals.

  8. #51004
    Quote Originally Posted by Plan77  [View Original Post]
    I love the option to inspect goods personally and have a little discussion to gauge language skills and willingness to go the extra mile. Not sure how one can achieve this level if filtration while dealing with girls and their photoshopped pictures.
    It gets worse than that. Online, often you're the one being filtered out, and being a Farang is working against you. I had a few ok experiences, but online scene is just not my thing. For me, taking a long stroll among a bunch of eager hookers and picking one is 60% of the fun, often better than the session itself.

    If I'm going to do all the legwork, might as well go for a civilian and squeeze several sessions for "free" out of that while pretending to have a normal relationship. I realize that's not an option after a certain age, but it still in the age bracket where it works, albeit just barely.

  9. #51003
    Quote Originally Posted by Plan77  [View Original Post]
    Great writeup Goat. I don't think most people today can even imagine what kind of talent was available just few years ago. Then it all started going downhill.
    It never goes downhill, it just changes.

    As a fresh faced newbie in the 80's, the old timers were biatching about the old days. R&R days.

    Hell I had old days at 44 baht to the dollar. Sure been downhill since then, except now I have more money, so when I show up its uphill or even.

    One thing that has gone downhill since I stepped ashore is Thailand itself, hell of a lot less freewheeling than the old days. Those who stand on line every 90 days know what I mean.

    But regardless, if there is one thing that's constant, its guys like Goat and Eih that provide the real detailed info. Thanks boys.

  10. #51002
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    But hey, I'm really having an amazing time with the online gals. Still say I'm finding some of the prettiest girls I've ever had and with a lot of time-consuming research some real performers to boot. Combine that with an average price of 2 K for 90 minutes two shots, meeting them in a fairly nice hotel room, not having to deal with the hassle of the Go-Go environment, I'd say it's a pretty good deal.
    I am sure you are finding some very attractive girls on these Thai language sites. But you said it yourself, it takes "a lot of time-consuming research" to find the real performers.

    Pre-covid, I never used internet sites to find girls preferring to meet them in brick-and-mortar establishments and test drive them before making any decisions. I always enjoyed my nights out and about. But in April 2021, a dark time in recent history, I flew into Rio De Janeiro during a code red lockdown. All the termas (bordellos) and Prive's (oily massage parlors) were closed so I had no alternative other than going on the internet. And guess what? I found some beautiful and amazing girls online and they gave me some of the best sex I have had in the last 10 years! But here is the catch: it was very time consuming to find the right girl or girls online. I would usually start my search around 4 pm and with some degree of luck and tenacity, I would have a hottie knocking on my door by 8 pm.

    On my 2nd trip to SP & RJ in October 2021, the Boates in SP and the Termas were open. As a result, I hooked up with a few of my favorite internet girls from the previous trip, and that was great, but very happily I began hunting for sexy girls in the bordellos and never looked back. I am currently on my 5th week in SP on my 3rd visit. My 2 favorite internet girls are on working road trips in Spain, so I missed seeing them. But once again I have not pursued any new online girls because it so much more fun to meet super attractive girls in the bordellos face to face than on an internet site. It just is!

    Now Thailand is different. I understand this. So, I will have to see how things are when I finally return. I still don't know when that will be. But if the girl quality in the Go Go's is not decent enough when I return, then hell yeah, I will begin sourcing girls on the internet like you. We do what we have to do to get by. But I am still hoping that by October or early 2023 at the latest, the Go Go's and nightclubs will be back open in large numbers and things will look like 2019. Hopefully.

    But for example, Billboard, one of my favorite bars in Nana back in 2019, on a good night I could count on there being maybe 3 or 4 girls on the carousel that were barfine worthy, and that is not a very high ratio of lookers for sure back in 2019, but it was enough to satisfy me and make me a repeat customer. By comparison, I thought Pin Up A Go Go in Pattaya circa 2019 had a hell of a lot more attractive girls on hand and the bar vibe was outstanding. In 2019 I thought Pattaya Go Go'a were better than BKK Go Go's. Last comparison: on a typical Thursday night in Scandallo 2022 (Sao Paulo) there are around 140 girls hanging around of which at least 25 are 7* and above IE super sexy. That is why I don't bother searching for girls on the internet when I am in SP.

  11. #51001

    In person selection vs online scams

    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    My first few years here, from late '99 till the late '00's, I pulled a lot of girls from Go-Go's, although my main hunting grounds were Thermae and Nana Disco. I then focused mainly on oilies for the next decade until covid and then online became the focus. Even though I wasn't pulling from Go-Go's at the time I think the period from the early '10's till 2017 or 18 saw some very good talent in Go-Go bars, especially in places like Billboard in Bangkok and most notably Palace in Pattaya. Palace had some of the most stunning go go girls I have ever seen. Unfortunately many were not friendly to Western punters and of course quite pricey. For my taste and requirements oilies were a much better choice although the quality declined sharply from about 2016 on. I feel very fortunate to have caught the end of the golden age of Go-Go's in Bangkok and the height of talent and performance in the oilies. From about 2009 when mango and Snow White opened until the mid '10's the oilers were pretty incredible. There were always four five girls in each one that were worth taking. That was not even the case the last few years before covid.

    But hey, I'm really having an amazing time with the online gals. Still say I'm finding some of the prettiest girls I've ever had and with a lot of time consuming research some real performers to boot. Combine that with an average price of 2 K for 90 minutes two shots, meeting them in a fairly nice hotel room, not having to deal with the hassle of the Go-Go environment, I'd say it's a pretty good deal.
    Great writeup Goat. I don't think most people today can even imagine what kind of talent was available just few years ago. Then it all started going downhill,.

    I am a bit surprised by your mentioning of some success with online girls. You did mention taking time to research but that is something that is quite difficult and dangerous for most punters when they are still in the home town. Think wife LOL.

    I love the option to inspect goods personally and have a little discussion to gauge language skills and willingness to go the extra mile. Not sure how one can achieve this level if filtration while dealing with girls and their photoshopped pictures.

  12. #51000
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I think it has always been true that most of the girls working in the Thai go-go bars are not pretty. And it was true in my eyes as well in Billboard last Saturday night as in every bar I looked into that night and every night.

    But IMO there was the same usual small percentage of girls who stood out as barfine-worthy (based on looks) as there would have been on any Saturday night in 2017, 2018 or 2019.

    I would concede that many customers today are likely to accept less due to 2 years of denial. But my experience, observation and shared testimonials from long time punters suggest that is more about accepting less in terms of service than in looks.

    That "shell of its former self" comment might be the most glowing review of any Nana Plaza go-go bar lineup I have read from you, Goatscrot. And by "former" that can only mean as far back as it existed under that name.

    So maybe enough time has passed to be certain most of the better girls are no longer working there, as you already suggest in this discussion, to make it possible for those of us who were here at the time to reminisce over the good old days back in 2017 and 2018 and 2019, how much better it was back then, how lucky we were to have been in on it and how sad it is for all you unlucky souls out there who missed it.
    My first few years here, from late '99 till the late '00's, I pulled a lot of girls from Go-Go's, although my main hunting grounds were Thermae and Nana Disco. I then focused mainly on oilies for the next decade until covid and then online became the focus. Even though I wasn't pulling from Go-Go's at the time I think the period from the early '10's till 2017 or 18 saw some very good talent in Go-Go bars, especially in places like Billboard in Bangkok and most notably Palace in Pattaya. Palace had some of the most stunning go go girls I have ever seen. Unfortunately many were not friendly to Western punters and of course quite pricey. For my taste and requirements oilies were a much better choice although the quality declined sharply from about 2016 on. I feel very fortunate to have caught the end of the golden age of Go-Go's in Bangkok and the height of talent and performance in the oilies. From about 2009 when mango and Snow White opened until the mid '10's the oilers were pretty incredible. There were always four five girls in each one that were worth taking. That was not even the case the last few years before covid.

    But hey, I'm really having an amazing time with the online gals. Still say I'm finding some of the prettiest girls I've ever had and with a lot of time consuming research some real performers to boot. Combine that with an average price of 2 K for 90 minutes two shots, meeting them in a fairly nice hotel room, not having to deal with the hassle of the Go-Go environment, I'd say it's a pretty good deal.

  13. #50999
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    I recommend a Google search on "Seasonal Weather Bangkok". {Snip}
    Surely you're not expecting someone on ISG to do their own Google search?

  14. #50998
    In pre-covid times travelling to Thailand during rainy season was never a problem. I actually enjoyed it. Sure, it rains, sometimes there are torrential downpours, and city streets in BKK & Pattaya overflow with water ankle deep, but the sun comes out too plenty, sometimes for weeks on end. Just bring a good umbrella and some sense of humor. You will be fine. I would rather be in Thailand during the rainy season than during high season. I won't go to Thailand between December and February. Too many people.

  15. #50997
    Quote Originally Posted by Redman25  [View Original Post]
    ... I just learned about the rain season and I am now concerned. Is mid-July a bad time to come? If I came mid July would it rain all day every day?
    Quote Originally Posted by Allover  [View Original Post]
    ...I'm thinking July is fine now and I'm trying to get there at that time too. It will rain most days but its not all day rain. It will rain for an hours or so and then clear up....
    I recommend a Google search on "Seasonal Weather Bangkok". It will quickly display typical high and low temperatures as well as the number of days per month with rain. If you are thinking of traveling about Thailand, substitute your expected destination in place of Bangkok.

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