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  1. #52619
    My take on an Agogo girl who sits with a guy for 3 hours getting a drink every half hour.

    If there are 25 girls on the clock. She must be off the charts unattractive. Hahaha. Yards behind number 24 in looks. Nothing else makes Sense.

    These girls want Barfines not a drink every 30 minutes.

  2. #52618
    Quote Originally Posted by HPvs17  [View Original Post]
    Just left BKK after almost a week. Mongered in Germany and Switzerland before, having spent much of my adult life there but first time in SE Asia.
    ...
    Long story short, I was a little bit disappointed in Bangkok. But such is life.
    Well done, 3 posts, 2 questions and 1 solid FR. Just learn from your mistakes, 1st time, everybody makes them. You might want to check out some of the ROD's (reports of distinction thread) to check out other avenues (or is that sois), of entertainment, and for some lessons learned. Sounds like you were doing the math, but a lady drink every 30 minutes adds up for YOU, superseding the potential cost savings of a late hour bar fine, just to keep her anchored to you until you're ready to leave. Why? Agree with Volterra, she comes over, talks, she should be auditioning for YOU. See how her attitude is to you, but simply liking you for the drinks, you're a mark. Save the fiddly bits for your room where you can get serious. AND she's blocking your landing slot for other circling aircraft; no one else is going to cut in. Just make a note of her tail number, check out some others, and when YOU're ready to leave, call the top one over, make an offer. If a no, "next"....

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    That outfit would have got you in virtually everywhere and makes you stand out among the touristy wife beaters shirts and soccer jerseys and clothes best suited to a beach.

    Because I have other things to do during the days and evenings beyond satisfying my quite easy to satisfy cucumber of lust, sometimes I find myself sitting in a girlie venue with shorts and hiking boots, backpack and walking sticks, just back from a trip, looking like a wore out mangy old explorer absolutely unique among a sea of fake designer bags and clothes and beachwear.

    While that doesn't affect the predatory tourist loving girls, gets me lot of attention from the partimers, semi pros, students, tribal girl, especially when I can say, "oh, from (insert city here)? I was there last week."

    I never live anywhere near the tourist action so my presence there is either on the way back from somewhere or on an occasional well dressed (dark pants) night.

    Even in Thailand, clothes make the man. Try not to look like a tourist even if you are.
    A tip of my hat (Columbia) to you. This trip, my Teva boots have remained on the balcony. But certainly a lot more to see in Thailand than Bangkok's Nana, Cowboy, Sukhumvit sois 22,23, 24,26, 31, and Pattaya. You just have to get out and about for a much different perspective. I have to admit, for a long time, I thought walking sticks were a gimmick, an affectation. Then 7 years ago, when the Chinese mountains seemed to grow higher and steeper, I got myself one. I could instantly see the wisdom. Now have 2, an active and a backup. Don't leave home without it.

    Safe Journey.

  3. #52617

    Slap on the Wrist. Do Research and Learn Lessons

    Quote Originally Posted by HPvs17  [View Original Post]
    Just left BKK after almost a week. Mongered in Germany and Switzerland before, having spent much of my adult life there but first time in SE Asia.

    Messaged girl on Massage republic that supposedly could bring a girlfriend on request. They showed up on time. Similar deal to the last one. Same girl, just a bit heavier. The two girls provided decent service, but didn't so any Lesbian stuff. So a normal PSE three some with two random girls. Would not repeat. * Damage, 10 K.
    10 K for that! Was your calculator malfunctioning when you ordered?

    Quote Originally Posted by HPvs17  [View Original Post]
    After considering becoming a monk, headed to Soi Cowboy, and back to Dollhouse. Same basic lineup. A cutie that was taller, and had an innocent look to her caught my eye. After some eye contact, she came over and asked if I would by her a drink. She saw me as the sucker I was, and stayed with me,* asking for a lady drink every 30 minutes. In return, she sat and danced on my lap, teased my cock, and so forth. After a bit, she asked me to bar fine her, but said to wait until 11 as the bar fine dropped to 800 from 1600. Didn't matter, as she racked my bill with bar fine to 2400. Cost to bring her back was 4 K. Kmew that was over paying, but said fuck it. Said she was 24, and what followed was on the line between PSE / GFE with kissing and a little bit of shyness. . Head wasnt the greatest. After we were done, she was in a hurry to go back to the bar, but was a little disappointed that I didn't want to go back..
    Let me get this straight: You dropped 6400 (drinks + BF) for a ST and not an overnight? And then you went back?? And you expect her to risk losing another customer just to be polite and run over to you?

    Look, not to be too hard on you, but I'd suggest that you learn and adapt. You must have built some unrealistic expectations based on reports you read before your first trip. Most guys write glowing reports once they've earned the good experiences, but the bad experiences are there too.

    You're bound to be disappointed in BKK after this week, and I think BKK may, in turn, be disappointed in you. There's no point sitting around a go go club with the same girl sitting on your lap for 2-3 hours. You need to ask what the BF / minimum drink policy is as you enter so that you can politely move on to another establishment if you don't accept the terms (no worries, I also learned the hard way). And I suggest you make your decision during the first drink and go forward with the BF or leave.

    And you'd also need to learn some lessons about the outcalls and adjust to make it better bang for the baht. Did you do your research before your trip?

    Seriously, the prices / conditions are getting tougher and tougher for the lot of us because guys (like you, yes) are not learning how to work / negotiate / walk away. Now I'm going to go there in 2 weeks and Dollhouse and your GF there are going to have their newly inflated expectations reinforced. Thanks a lot! But don't blame Bangkok.

  4. #52616

    Necessary modifications

    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    I'd include that into my seconds paragraph: Golds' offer of $1000 "shoes" for a date or more to a Good Girl clearly didn't end well. Confusing a civilian for a hooker rarely does.

    I'd agree that masks and the whole paranoia around meeting strangers certainly doesn't help.

    Just so I'm clear, you're in the girl capital of the universe, can't find any dates, even $1000 incentive doesn't attract any action and it's the girls that are at fault?

    Have you considered some introspection? Perhaps find out what is driving them away and work on changing that??
    I'd have to agree with Goferring. Even if you're just looking for dating and no ppm, I can understand why it might take some time to get on track, but some introspection and modifications about one's approach should easily do the trick. Or maybe BKK just isn't the right fit for some dudes.

  5. #52615
    OMG. . Rainbow 5 was basically Standing Room Only Last night Friday.

    Saw a little Black girl. Cute -ish. No Silly Cones, decent small- ish tittie's.

    Think she would be a Star on Pattaya Soi 6. Might struggle at Rainbow 5. Hahaha.

  6. #52614

    Not that far apart

    Quote Originally Posted by StreamFlyer  [View Original Post]
    Since this is the Bangkok page, it might be more biased. However, I wanted some opinions on how to split up this 20 day Thailand trip. Should I do 10 Bangkok and 10 in Pattaya? Any tips or experiences you'd want to share would be greatly appreciated. TIA.

    -SF.
    They are not that far apart. Do a couple of days in Bangkok and then head to Pattaya for a couple of days and see which one you like best. I spent to much time in China, so I personally hate overcrowded Asian cities. But that is just me. Some people prefer the bright lights and big city. The key is to relax and have fun. Too much planning spoils the fun.

  7. #52613
    Just left BKK after almost a week. Mongered in Germany and Switzerland before, having spent much of my adult life there but first time in SE Asia.

    Day 1- Arrived early evening. I knew I was going to be tired, so I had arranged for a girl from Massage republic earlier that day while still traving. She showed up on time. Same girl as the photos, but a few pounds heavier. Decent BBBJ and lay. 3000 baht damage.

    Day two- Out and about. Go to Madame Claudes, which is an upscale BJ place. Choose girl from Ipad and pay 1300 baht. Girl took me to room and washed my dong. Between the mouth wash, and baby oil that she used to start a HJ, my dick was almost numb. Tried to force myself to cum, not sure if it was an almost cum, or just weak.

    Messaged girl on Massage republic that supposedly could bring a girlfriend on request. They showed up on time. Similar deal to the last one. Same girl, just a bit heavier. The two girls provided decent service, but didn't so any Lesbian stuff. So a normal PSE three some with two random girls. Would not repeat. * Damage, 10 K.

    Day three-.

    I hit Soi Cowboy in the evening. Go to "Dollhouse". A few cuties. Have a couple drinks, then wander down to Nana. Go to Angelwitch. No girls catch my eye, and Mamason was a little pushy, as I nursed my drink. Left. Walked the gauntlet, down the main drag. Checked out a few beer bars on Soi7 and 7-1, but between no girls catching my eye, and agressive ladyboys grabbing my junk, I left without getting a drink.

    Went to Thermae. Staff made me buy a drink as soon as I entered. Place was filled with cute girls, almost all of them looking like normal girls, not working girls. A cute girl with glasses and dyed hair caught my eye. Took her back for 3 K. Had to stop and get rubbers, as she didn't have one. Told me all her previous clients were Asian. * In the room, she was a little shy, and wouldn't budge from CBJ. She must have had a IUD or similar, as while banging, I bottomed out if I went too hard. Made my dick hurt after we were done. Wouldn't repeat.

    Day four-.

    Went to "Wood bar" about lunchtime. Paid 800 up front. Girl wasnt a looker, but "no chick is ugly when is she sucking your dick" . Facilities were a little cheap, even for Thailand. What followed was the worst blowjob of my life. Teeth, little suction, and fast dry hand action. With a little bit of instruction, managed to make it unpainful and forced myself to cum. * Leaving with a sore dick, I took the rest of the day off.

    Day five.

    After considering becoming a monk, headed to Soi Cowboy, and back to Dollhouse. Same basic lineup. A cutie that was taller, and had an innocent look to her caught my eye. After some eye contact, she came over and asked if I would by her a drink. She saw me as the sucker I was, and stayed with me,* asking for a lady drink every 30 minutes. In return, she sat and danced on my lap, teased my cock, and so forth. After a bit, she asked me to bar fine her, but said to wait until 11 as the bar fine dropped to 800 from 1600. Didn't matter, as she racked my bill with bar fine to 2400. Cost to bring her back was 4 K. Kmew that was over paying, but said fuck it. Said she was 24, and what followed was on the line between PSE / GFE with kissing and a little bit of shyness. . Head wasnt the greatest. After we were done, she was in a hurry to go back to the bar, but was a little disappointed that I didn't want to go back.

    Day six-.

    Last night in Bangkok, so I threw common sense out the window and went back to Dollhouse at about 830. The girl from the night before was already sitting with some young Asian dude,* and he appeared to bar fine her. She seemed to try to hide it from me, which I thought was a little funny. About an hour later, she came back and tried to play it off like she was up stairs. Same deal as before, she wanted lady drinks in return for sitting on my lap, riding my dick, etc. Wanted to get barfined at 11 again. No mention of her price. Back in the room, it was closer to GFE, where she expected to get eaten out. First time I have had a hooker expect it.

    Anyways, she left after we were done. As I am going to be in Bangkok again in a couple weeks, she gave me her LINE ID.

    Long story short, I was a little bit disappointed in Bangkok. But such is life.

  8. #52612

    How to split up Trip

    Since this is the Bangkok page, it might be more biased. However, I wanted some opinions on how to split up this 20 day Thailand trip. Should I do 10 Bangkok and 10 in Pattaya? Any tips or experiences you'd want to share would be greatly appreciated. TIA.

    -SF.

  9. #52611
    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy33  [View Original Post]
    I don't know what your $1,000 incentive means as I'm talking about dating, not p4 p. As far as dating in Thailand, it's difficult to pull good looking girls for dating these days, I'd say most guys would attest to that. The mask wearing doesn't help as it creates a physical and social barrier to day game. If you need to give a girl a "$1,000" incentive then that is p4p, not dating.
    I'd include that into my seconds paragraph: Golds' offer of $1000 "shoes" for a date or more to a Good Girl clearly didn't end well. Confusing a civilian for a hooker rarely does.

    I'd agree that masks and the whole paranoia around meeting strangers certainly doesn't help.

  10. #52610
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    Just so I'm clear, you're in the girl capital of the universe, can't find any dates, even $1000 incentive doesn't attract any action and it's the girls that are at fault?

    Have you considered some introspection? Perhaps find out what is driving them away and work on changing that??
    I don't know what your $1,000 incentive means as I'm talking about dating, not p4 p. As far as dating in Thailand, it's difficult to pull good looking girls for dating these days, I'd say most guys would attest to that. The mask wearing doesn't help as it creates a physical and social barrier to day game. If you need to give a girl a "$1,000" incentive then that is p4p, not dating.

  11. #52609
    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo  [View Original Post]
    My primary concern is sun protection, so no shorts for me except inside. My blinding white legs would be a traffic hazard to oncoming traffic. LL Bean Tropicwear shirts; the chest pockets deep enough to hold my mobile phone and velcro close the pocket securely. Fast dryiing, easy to wash, hang to dry wrinkle free. Railriders VersaTec Ultra Light pants, large cargo pockets; work in the heat AND in the "cool", very effective at stopping wind. Again, easy to wash, quick drying, hang to dry, wrinkle free. Have worn shirts and pants all over the world. Not really dress, at least the pants, but then again, I don't normally go to fancy dress establishments. Teva sandals, F1 and Hurricane.
    That outfit would have got you in virtually everywhere and makes you stand out among the touristy wife beaters shirts and soccer jerseys and clothes best suited to a beach.

    Because I have other things to do during the days and evenings beyond satisfying my quite easy to satisfy cucumber of lust, sometimes I find myself sitting in a girlie venue with shorts and hiking boots, backpack and walking sticks, just back from a trip, looking like a wore out mangy old explorer absolutely unique among a sea of fake designer bags and clothes and beachwear.

    While that doesn't affect the predatory tourist loving girls, gets me lot of attention from the partimers, semi pros, students, tribal girl, especially when I can say, "oh, from (insert city here)? I was there last week."

    I never live anywhere near the tourist action so my presence there is either on the way back from somewhere or on an occasional well dressed (dark pants) night.

    Even in Thailand, clothes make the man. Try not to look like a tourist even if you are.

  12. #52608
    Cherry. Sukhumvit Soi 24/1.

    2 curvacious girls outside giving the come Hither look.

    Avg weight 275 pounds. Hahaha.

    Maybe Sisters?

  13. #52607

    Return of Patpong Market

    As I entered the eerily quiet Patpong, I saw a sign saying that the night market will restart on December 5. So whether you think that's a good thing or a bad thing, the days of eerily quiet are apparently numbered.

  14. #52606
    Quote Originally Posted by FunMan13  [View Original Post]
    I think independent WGs who can travel to a totally foreign country (completely different language, customs, etc.) to work must possess a certain level of intellect and courage. I have met some pretty smart Thais and Filipinas in Kuala Lumpur, Singapore and Europe. These women do not need to work in bars and brothels at home or abroad like Geylang in Singapore. My 2 cents.
    Got that right. Imagine going to a country where you don't speak the native language, little English, and what you're doing is illegal; NO help from the police, taken advantage of by everyone. In DXB, I knew a superstar PRC, Cyclone (and anyone who recognizes the name immediately understands the significance). When she arrived, her English was (You want me? Yes, No, I love you, with a yellow posty note with her phone number on it). 6 years later, she could fully carry on a conversation in English, she made 120 K USD a year, had learned to drive (and in DXB, that's difficult, lot of lessons), and bought herself a car. Sporadic and I both agreed if she had been born in the US, she would have been the CEO of a mid-level company.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    Just so I'm clear, you're in the girl capital of the universe, can't find any dates, even $1000 incentive doesn't attract any action and it's the girls that are at fault? Have you considered some introspection? Perhaps find out what is driving them away and work on changing that??
    LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by TimTimms  [View Original Post]
    Thais aren't Stupid. LOL. On old Thai Visa site I get the impression Thais aren't as a group Smart.
    Smart enough to separate you from your money, and, judging by your FR's, by simply making eye contact. Timmie, you're not riding the pine, you're up in the bleachers.

  15. #52605

    Score

    Quote Originally Posted by HolsterMike  [View Original Post]
    What followed was as an amazing amazing night!. DATY, BBBJ, in the balcony, CIM, multiple rounds.
    She had her game on with foreplay!
    Slept around 4:30 am. She woke me up at 7:30 and said she wants to leave. I politely offered her some money but she refused.
    She typed in Google translator that she had a great night and she did not want to share the number as she has a boyfriend!
    No $ Damage except for bills paid in bars which was less than 1500 THB.
    Onto Pattaya! But this encounter will be memorable for sometime!
    GOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLLLL.

    It's memories like this that last a lifetime.

    Quote Originally Posted by HolsterMike  [View Original Post]
    Regular questions form chick and mamasan. Thanks to 11 Bravo. Had some standard answers.!
    Once you've gotten the hang of it, try this: when asked how long you've been in Thailand, answer this is your FIRST time, you just arrived last night. Her eyes will spin around like a slot machine's wheels. See how long it takes for her to realize you're just joking with her. The key to having a good time is to keep it light and fun.

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