Bangkok Reports

[Tommylove]

Yes, it was the one at 99 Sukhumvit Soi 6 Road.

And they let a girl up to come see me, it was guest friendly.

And I went into the bar in the basement, it was full of very pretty freelancers. Primo talent, actually.

TL,

Are you sure it's the Grand Sukhumvit Hotel you refer to? On Suk Soi 6, coming from Soi 4 it's on the right hand side just before the Soi turns left and heads up to Sukhumvit? My surprise is because last I heard a couple of years ago this hotel was reported as joiner unfriendly (I don't recall whether it was an absolute prohibition or THB 1500 joiner fee) and was removed from the various guest / joiner friendly hotel sites. Their main market became tour groups by the busload and it seems unlikely to me that a "family friendly" hotel would be allowing freelancers into the bar / nightclub.

[CockaSaurus]

Very soon I will putting the over-priced island behind me and making my way to live in BKK for the first time.

My only experience was once at Nana plaza where there was a convenient hotel located inside the plaza.

A quick question to the fellow mongers here, are there any short time hotels on Soi Cowboy? I can't take any of the girls back to my new pad as the missus wouldn't like that very much.

How are things in general in BKK girls wise? Have they put up their prices or gone down, would be good to hear an update?

Cheers.

There is a ST hotel on the Asoke side to the left of SC. I'm not 100% sure but there should also be one on the other side but the girls will be able to show you.

[DiffPiddy]

Very soon I will putting the over-priced island behind me and making my way to live in BKK for the first time.

My only experience was once at Nana plaza where there was a convenient hotel located inside the plaza.

A quick question to the fellow mongers here, are there any short time hotels on Soi Cowboy? I can't take any of the girls back to my new pad as the missus wouldn't like that very much.

How are things in general in BKK girls wise? Have they put up their prices or gone down, would be good to hear an update?

Cheers.

[EihTooms]

Does anyone here know a place near Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, Thermae, Soi 11, Soi 24, and Patpong where I can get cheap Durex condoms and Viagra. One shop for each item at each location would be very helpful.

How long does my boner last with Viagra? I don't really need it but if I'm forced to wear a condom and a mask I better be prepared to buy some.

I know BBFS is safe since no member here ever reports of diseases after BBFS but will I get HIV or COVID with a BBBJ or a BBHJ?

You haven't read guys on ISG saying they caught a dose of something after doing BBFS? I have read it. I have even read reports from guys who claim to always or almost always wear a condom for sex getting a dose of something. And an unplanned baby.

You can get Covid just breathing next to a man, woman or child who is a carrier for it. Having sex with a partner or alone is not necessary.

Any pharmacy or drug store will have the condoms and Viagra you are looking for, price varies. Try the pharmacy in Foodland Soi 5, Sukhumvit Road.

Lately I have bought Sidegra, the Thai made version of Viagra, in that pharmacy. Four tablets 100mg each for 200 baht.

When I pop one of those tablets about an hour before sex, my erection lasts as long as I need it to last for at least an hour or until I ejaculate, sometimes for another 15-20 minutes after I ejaculate. And I will get another similarily responding erection several hours later if I am sexually stimulated, say the next morning, on that same dose.

However, that is the way it works for me when I am not wearing a condom. The many times I have popped boner pills and tried this or that highly recommended condom I can count on my erection lasting about 30 seconds with no possible ejaculation as far off in the distance as the mind can imagine or until the condom rots from the weather and elements and simply falls off on its own, whichever happens first.

As always, YMMV.

Oh, HIV? Avoid engaging in receptive anal sex, even when your partner is wearing a condom since the incidence of condoms breaking or coming off during anal sex is apparently relatively high. Other than that, it is extremely rare for a man to get HIV from vaginal or oral sex unless there is a rather obvious co-factor involved like you having a big open sore on your penis while fucking or getting sucked by an HIV-Positive partner.

HIV transmission from a Hand Job? Never heard of it happening. But if you are breathing heavily, struggling to get off during the HJ and the HJ provider is a carrier, you are probably at very high risk of getting Covid, even if you are wearing a mask.

Btw, the heavy breathing and struggling to get off issue probably greatly increases your chances of contracting or transmitting Covid whenever a condom is involved for any other kind of sex as well, mask or no mask.

[Banana Boi]

Does anyone here know a place near Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, Thermae, Soi 11, Soi 24, and Patpong where I can get cheap Durex condoms and Viagra. One shop for each item at each location would be very helpful.

How long does my boner last with Viagra? I don't really need it but if I'm forced to wear a condom and a mask I better be prepared to buy some.

I know BBFS is safe since no member here ever reports of diseases after BBFS but will I get HIV or COVID with a BBBJ or a BBHJ?

[Franciscass]

Sounds like.

Your describing eating some nice birthday cake with all the frostings and candles etc.

But its just a shell, no cake inside, just a sad prank.

Now that's so cruel, a hollow birthday cake and to make matters worse I never liked frosting even as a kid. More to the point Czar I'm not sure it works on any level as an analogy on what's being discussed here. Is it possible to have another stab at it with maybe a little more creativity this time? For inspiration and in deference to your Russian handle may I suggest you read some Dostoevsky or Tolstoy.

The invisible Man.

[Franciscass]

Back to the point of my post you quoted, Franciscass, are you then saying the "performance up" you have noticed during these dire economic times is that the better looking go-go girls are now submitting to the rimming you require, going along with the toy play, the mutual spanking and so on much more readily and will perhaps even submit to these unusual requests of yours at deep discount rates more often now than they did during normal times when they had more alternative customer options and more money in their purse?

Short answer, yes.

I am not saying the axis of the earth's orbit has recently shifted or that every session I have now involves toys light spanking rimming and so on, that's the holy grail, but I have noticed firstly a definite sense of appreciation that I choose her to give my money to and secondly a more enthusiastic attitude in ensuring I have a good time and if it involves something they don't have a fundamental issue with it's now more likely to be OK.

Also ET just to clarify I don't require rimming etc to go with a girl. I'm fortunate in that I can enjoy a session without the trimmings if she is fun to be with and she genuinely tries to give me a good time and leave me happy even when her skill set is somewhat limited.

[EihTooms]

I can relate to everything that ET writes, we are both older than most posters. I still stay covered for the first session of the day, but the second session is always difficult while covered (and sometimes impossible). I only spend 30 to 60 days per year in Thailand and I try to make the most of every day.

The situation of "I can't feel anything" seems to be age related. When I was 45 I needed a cover to lessen the sensation to keep me from popping on about the 3rd stroke. Now, with those same covers I can't maintain erection for even the first pop. The Trojan Magnum Bareskin with additional silicone lube on the inside is OK for my first pop, but often I can't perform twice a day like that.

If BBFS CIP were just a matter of an extra 1000 baht, I'd pay it every time. I've had a vasectomy so my real concern is diseases.

My deal killer lack of sensation problem with condoms started from the moment I first put one on for sex at age 19. And I have never had a premature ejaculation factor to deal with where wearing a condom could actually be an aid to prevent it.

Since then, 48 years later, it has not been all that difficult to find many, many willing partners for bareback CIP sex, both paid and unpaid. Based on my historical record and also leading right up to my most recent routine tests about 10 days ago, there has been no incidence or evidence of long term (or even meaningful short term) health issues for me or any of my partners from it.

But that is me. If I'd had problems along the way as others have mentioned I probably would have found one special GF, married her and remained monogamous all these years.

The vasectomy has contributed greatly to reducing long term health and financial risk from going bareback for me and my partners.

I would say if a girl, hooker or not, just maintained an ongoing birth control regime (I like the tiny time release pellet arm implants many girls opt for) and demanded to see a recent negative/normal HIV and STD test result document before agreeing to engage in BBFS+CIP with any man they would reduce the risk of long or short term health issues to near zero at an extremely low cost to them. I do recommend those 2 safety measures to many of my partners.

[EihTooms]

ET I get your BBFS plus CIP requirement to enjoy sex, I do but are you suggesting that girls who don't do BBFS because they don't want to risk their health only provide what you describe as a "dismal minimum level of service" and "dismal basic standard fare".

Sure if sex is no more than sticking your dick into that orifice between her legs and pounding away till you cum then maybe but for me and if I may be presumptuous for others as well there is a lot more going on.

Obviously it's not the same for all but personally as part of a session I enjoy starting with a sensual massage then exploring her body. When we get going I like rimming, cat licking, BBBJ, DATY, 69, like some role playing (use your imagination) and the use of toys, a little spanking giving and receiving, sometimes not always but when its OK with the girl doing anal or finishing with a hand job on her face or if she looks like she wants me to in her mouth, during all of this some dirty talking particularly at the right time. The main event, my covered dick in her pussy exploring which action she prefers, hands under her ass, feet up or around my body body, hard soft, quick slow, stay in and move, almost out and back in, fully out and back in and doing all of these in a variety of positions, doggy being one my favorites.

Yes if its BB its better but the diminution of tactile sensation is not such that it's ah fuck this for a game of soldiers I can't feel anything situation. Also the quality of condoms nowadays is pretty good and helps a lot but mostly it's the peace of mind that I'm not pissing razor blades a week later or taking meds for the rest of my life.

I've learned over the years the most important sex organ is the brain which brings me to that most desirable of happenings, chemistry. If the girl likes me, if she has the imagination, the skill set, the energy and most importantly the desire to make me happy wearing a condom does not mean the sex is basic or dismal, far far from it.

The Invisible Man.

Back to the point of my post you quoted, Franciscass, are you then saying the "performance up" you have noticed during these dire economic times is that the better looking go-go girls are now submitting to the rimming you require, going along with the toy play, the mutual spanking and so on much more readily and will perhaps even submit to these unusual requests of yours at deep discount rates more often now than they did during normal times when they had more alternative customer options and more money in their purse?

[Crocodilexp]

Now, with those same covers I can't maintain erection for even the first pop. The Trojan Magnum Bareskin with additional silicone lube on the inside is OK for my first pop, but often I can't perform twice a day like that.

Sildenafil Citrate works perfectly for maintaining erection, and it costs as low as 50-100 baht / dose depending on how much you need. For me, half a 50 MG pill works just fine. Far easier, cheaper, safer, and less anti-social than trying to convince an unwilling or reluctant working girl to go bareback.

Decent looking girls are so few and far between these days I couldn't imagine intentionally narrowing my playing field to 20%-30% or so of those available (and that's on the uglier / older side, not randomly picked).

[HorseTrader]

Yes if its BB its better but the diminution of tactile sensation is not such that it's ah fuck this for a game of soldiers I can't feel anything situation. Also the quality of condoms nowadays is pretty good and helps a lot but mostly it's the peace of mind that I'm not pissing razor blades a week later or taking meds for the rest of my life.

I can relate to everything that ET writes, we are both older than most posters. I still stay covered for the first session of the day, but the second session is always difficult while covered (and sometimes impossible). I only spend 30 to 60 days per year in Thailand and I try to make the most of every day.

The situation of "I can't feel anything" seems to be age related. When I was 45 I needed a cover to lessen the sensation to keep me from popping on about the 3rd stroke. Now, with those same covers I can't maintain erection for even the first pop. The Trojan Magnum Bareskin with additional silicone lube on the inside is OK for my first pop, but often I can't perform twice a day like that.

If BBFS CIP were just a matter of an extra 1000 baht, I'd pay it every time. I've had a vasectomy so my real concern is diseases.

[CzarNicholas]

ET I get your BBFS plus CIP requirement to enjoy sex, I do but are you suggesting that girls who don't do BBFS because they don't want to risk their health only provide what you describe as a "dismal minimum level of service" and "dismal basic standard fare".

Sure if sex is no more than sticking your dick into that orifice between her legs and pounding away till you cum then maybe but for me and if I may be presumptuous for others as well there is a lot more going on.

Obviously it's not the same for all but personally as part of a session I enjoy starting with a sensual massage then exploring her body. When we get going I like rimming, cat licking, BBBJ, DATY, 69, like some role playing (use your imagination) and the use of toys, a little spanking giving and receiving, sometimes not always but when its OK with the girl doing anal or finishing with a hand job on her face or if she looks like she wants me to in her mouth, during all of this some dirty talking particularly at the right time. The main event, my covered dick in her pussy exploring which action she prefers, hands under her ass, feet up or around my body body, hard soft, quick slow, stay in and move, almost out and back in, fully out and back in and doing all of these in a variety of positions, doggy being one my favorites.

Yes if its BB its better but the diminution of tactile sensation is not such that it's ah fuck this for a game of soldiers I can't feel anything situation. Also the quality of condoms nowadays is pretty good and helps a lot but mostly it's the peace of mind that I'm not pissing razor blades a week later or taking meds for the rest of my life.

I've learned over the years the most important sex organ is the brain which brings me to that most desirable of happenings, chemistry. If the girl likes me, if she has the imagination, the skill set, the energy and most importantly the desire to make me happy wearing a condom does not mean the sex is basic or dismal, far far from it.

The Invisible Man.

Sounds like.

Your describing eating some nice birthday cake with all the frostings and candles etc.

But its just a shell, no cake inside, just a sad prank.

[Franciscass]

Can't say I am finding that to be true about go-go girls above a minimally doable 7 that I have encountered yet. And I hit a few go-go bars to buy LDs and interview girls 3-4 times per week now.

I'm not interviewing less attractive ones than that so I can't say what they are offering for less these days. But when I interview the ones that are clearly the better looking ones without much mental gymnastics and debate about it, the vast majority are not agreeing to one iota more than the dismal basic standard fare they would have agreed to for the most free spending, low demand Capitalist they jumped on during normal times.

That is from Playskool and Cactus Bar to Billboard and Baccara and several in between. Wish I could say otherwise. But it is not there yet for me.

Will they go along with 1,500 baht for that same dismal minimum level of service instead of 2,000 - 2,500 baht? I get a sense they probably would if I worked it longer, bought a couple more LDs. But I have so little interest in working longer for nothing special regardless of the discount I just move on to another bar. And neither the girls nor the mamasans seem the least bit interested in stopping me to find out why and if there is something they can do to change my mind. .

ET I get your BBFS plus CIP requirement to enjoy sex, I do but are you suggesting that girls who don't do BBFS because they don't want to risk their health only provide what you describe as a "dismal minimum level of service" and "dismal basic standard fare".

Sure if sex is no more than sticking your dick into that orifice between her legs and pounding away till you cum then maybe but for me and if I may be presumptuous for others as well there is a lot more going on.

Obviously it's not the same for all but personally as part of a session I enjoy starting with a sensual massage then exploring her body. When we get going I like rimming, cat licking, BBBJ, DATY, 69, like some role playing (use your imagination) and the use of toys, a little spanking giving and receiving, sometimes not always but when its OK with the girl doing anal or finishing with a hand job on her face or if she looks like she wants me to in her mouth, during all of this some dirty talking particularly at the right time. The main event, my covered dick in her pussy exploring which action she prefers, hands under her ass, feet up or around my body body, hard soft, quick slow, stay in and move, almost out and back in, fully out and back in and doing all of these in a variety of positions, doggy being one my favorites.

Yes if its BB its better but the diminution of tactile sensation is not such that it's ah fuck this for a game of soldiers I can't feel anything situation. Also the quality of condoms nowadays is pretty good and helps a lot but mostly it's the peace of mind that I'm not pissing razor blades a week later or taking meds for the rest of my life.

I've learned over the years the most important sex organ is the brain which brings me to that most desirable of happenings, chemistry. If the girl likes me, if she has the imagination, the skill set, the energy and most importantly the desire to make me happy wearing a condom does not mean the sex is basic or dismal, far far from it.

The Invisible Man.

[Goatscrot]

Granted. And that would explain the "prices down" part of it.

But for any and all punters who were already getting plenty of Covered FS as it was routinely provided by all girls during normal times at then current rates, what would you say is the "performance up" part being agreed to more freely by the better lookers these days?

I mean, that required a Pandemic of epic proportions and near catestrophic worldwide economic disaster to the level of something like 1 customer for every 100+ girls for them to finally start agreeing to provide?

I have a few friends who have started frequenting GoGos again after many years. Gals are willing to grab your unit, provide some hardcore fondling, and even heard of some hummers being given in bars where gals were not really allowing touching. And yes, these gals are going for less than they were pre-Covid. And some of the better lookers as well. This is what it was like 20 years ago folks.

Buddy in Pattaya, who has your BBFS requirement minus the CIP, was paying 1. 5-2 k for his gals off Thai Friendly (many of whom are quite good looking) and now he starts at an offer of 800 and usually pays no more than 1 k.

Yep, what it has taken is the tourists (namely Asians) to be gone. And most of the punters left here are Western guys. We're more demanding and aren't willing to pay exorbitant prices for service that is less than we received years ago. We demand good attitudes, looks and good service. We want GFEs and PSEs from every session. And if the gals want to make money, that is what they have to provide.

But, this will be the end of the line. When tourism returns to normal and the Asian dudes return, the gals will go right back to getting 3 k or so for providing very little and we will really be pariahs then.

[EihTooms]

Of course with your particular requirements, I am not surprised that you are finding things not so different. But for those of us that don't require BBFS + CIP, then the hunting is a bit better just due to the fact there are not so many dudes around.

Granted. And that would explain the "prices down" part of it.

But for any and all punters who were already getting plenty of Covered FS as it was routinely provided by all girls during normal times at then current rates, what would you say is the "performance up" part being agreed to more freely by the better lookers these days?

I mean, that required a Pandemic of epic proportions and near catestrophic worldwide economic disaster to the level of something like 1 customer for every 100+ girls for them to finally start agreeing to provide?