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  1. #50697
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    In the end, it comes down to people looking for different things.

    Personally, I care for a fun time browsing through a decent number of appealing and willing working girls. I'm looking more for endless variety and a pleasant GFE feeling when it comes to sex, rather than Earth-shattering sex or an amazing stunner (can't remember the last time I saw one in the PFP scene).

    After turning over more than 1000 working girls, and staying in Thailand during the 2000-2010 heyday, there's not much of a chance I'd get "best sex of my life" anyway. For reliably outstanding sex, there's Ying (and others) at Tulip, but after doing that for 30 times, and with all of them being over 40, it's hardly exciting.

    Sure, you're right that decent sex can still be had in Bangkok, if you put in the work and lower your standards (compared to Thailand in the good days, not compared to what aging guys have access to in the west).

    Unfortunately, prowling for hookers in Bangkok or Pattaya, which used to be the most amazing and exciting activity, is no longer fun, and actually outright depressing and occasionally even disgusting.

    To summarize, for guys wanting decent sex and willing to wade through shit to get it, Thailand might sill be worthwhile, but if you're after a fun hooker scene with a good vibe and good times on the prowl, it's no longer exists.
    Can't agree more, I too was lucky enough to be able to stay in Krungthep during that period, and having moved out in 2018, I think I have really see the heydays of mongering. And Yes to your Yingand my Yan: P May the good times return. Everybody Say Amen!!

  2. #50696
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    In the end, it comes down to people looking for different things.

    Personally, I care for a fun time browsing through a decent number of appealing and willing working girls. I'm looking more for endless variety and a pleasant GFE feeling when it comes to sex, rather than Earth-shattering sex or an amazing stunner (can't remember the last time I saw one in the PFP scene).

    After turning over more than 1000 working girls, and staying in Thailand during the 2000-2010 heyday, there's not much of a chance I'd get "best sex of my life" anyway. For reliably outstanding sex, there's Ying (and others) at Tulip, but after doing that for 30 times, and with all of them being over 40, it's hardly exciting.

    Sure, you're right that decent sex can still be had in Bangkok, if you put in the work and lower your standards (compared to Thailand in the good days, not compared to what aging guys have access to in the west).

    Unfortunately, prowling for hookers in Bangkok or Pattaya, which used to be the most amazing and exciting activity, is no longer fun, and actually outright depressing and occasionally even disgusting.

    To summarize, for guys wanting decent sex and willing to wade through shit to get it, Thailand might sill be worthwhile, but if you're after a fun hooker scene with a good vibe and good times on the prowl, it's no longer exists.
    I couldn't agree more Croc. Pattaya used to be charmingly sleazy and now I find it a bit off-putting at times. I used to love soi 6 when they were all closed lounge type bars, more like the gentleman's club scattered throughout party now. But now it's extremely loud and it's lost that laid back vibe.

    It's also very hard for people to imagine what lower Suk was like in the early 00's. At night it was basically all P4 P gals and guys on the hunt for them. You couldn't walk 10 yards between suite 3 and the Westin, at that time the Delta Grand Pacific, without having a girl ask "go with you. " There were so many it was almost impossible to make a decision. You never saw regular tourists, farang couples, YUDs (young urban douchebags), or really anyone who was not on the game. When Cowboy and Nana closed it was a free-for-all. You would literally have hundreds of girls pouring out of Nana going up to every guy they would see and propositioning them. In Cowboy they would just meander on the soi looking for a customer. Can't tell you how many times I grabbed a girl, headed for the short time room, and didn't get her name till we were finished and on our way out. Thermae stayed up until 6:00 am And was still the domain of the Western punter as the Asian punters had the coffee shop at the Siam City Hotel. And yes all of these activities were an incredible amount of fun. It was never work or ever difficult to find something great. It really was a party every single night. This pretty much went for all of Bangkok not just farang P4 P scene. This truly was a 24-hour town.
    Can you still have fun here? Well, of course you can, but it's just not the same. And it's still beats living in the USA.

  3. #50695

    Go Go

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonPlayer  [View Original Post]
    I totally disagree with this assessment. Bangkok and Pattaya can both still be great if you know what you're doing. I'm having the best sex of my life with some of the best girls I have ever met in Bangkok. I do live here, I go to the bars twice a week and I work the online sites every day. Is it worth a 2 week visit based on the current cost? Not for me to judge it's not my money. But living here during Covid I get the best girls with little competition because of so few tourists, and by competition I mean timing not being good looking or having game or any of that other shit. I'm talking about being at the right place at the right time to find the best girl is easiser now.

    I can't believe it but I actually finally agree with something that Goatscrot said. I agree 100% with what he says above.

    Carlification: I'm not saying Goatscrot is ever wrong but I wasn't around Bangkok during all those old times he talks about so I only know about the good times from 2010 until now.
    I have been coming to Bangkok several times a year for the last 20 years, and sure I had lost of fun back before 2010, but I was also younger and more outrageous. I have been able to find consistently great sex in all the years (and of course many misfires too, goes with the hobby).

    In about a month, I'm coming back to Bangkok for the first time since just before this thing started. Its a little depressing to read the gogo scene being only a fraction of what it used to be. But I also saw a few posts saying that you might get lucky. I like to have a few beers and look around before I decide, so gogos have always worked well for me, even if you can get unlucky with a starfish. One of my favorite spots used to be Crazy House, being able to check the girls out stark naked. Or one of the other places where they like to show you theyre not wearing panties even if they are in short skirts.

    But I guess there is not a lot of that going on these days. I can only hope it will have improved further in a months time when I get there.

    (Also hope all the testing I read about has stopped).

  4. #50694
    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonPlayer  [View Original Post]
    I totally disagree with this assessment. Bangkok and Pattaya can both still be great if you know what you're doing. I'm having the best sex of my life with some of the best girls I have ever met in Bangkok. I do live here, I go to the bars twice a week and I work the online sites every day... to find the best girl is easiser now.
    In the end, it comes down to people looking for different things.

    Personally, I care for a fun time browsing through a decent number of appealing and willing working girls. I'm looking more for endless variety and a pleasant GFE feeling when it comes to sex, rather than Earth-shattering sex or an amazing stunner (can't remember the last time I saw one in the PFP scene).

    After turning over more than 1000 working girls, and staying in Thailand during the 2000-2010 heyday, there's not much of a chance I'd get "best sex of my life" anyway. For reliably outstanding sex, there's Ying (and others) at Tulip, but after doing that for 30 times, and with all of them being over 40, it's hardly exciting.

    Sure, you're right that decent sex can still be had in Bangkok, if you put in the work and lower your standards (compared to Thailand in the good days, not compared to what aging guys have access to in the west).

    Unfortunately, prowling for hookers in Bangkok or Pattaya, which used to be the most amazing and exciting activity, is no longer fun, and actually outright depressing and occasionally even disgusting.

    To summarize, for guys wanting decent sex and willing to wade through shit to get it, Thailand might sill be worthwhile, but if you're after a fun hooker scene with a good vibe and good times on the prowl, it's no longer exists.

  5. #50693
    Quote Originally Posted by Johnie  [View Original Post]
    Soi Cowboy looked even worse, dancing and tits in one bar only but a lot of fun can be had with girls sitting outside the bars which are open..
    Soi cowboy deserves to die a slow death after years of drink scams, overpriced girls, and moving to coyote (not barfineable) bars. It became a tourist trap before covid.

  6. #50692
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    I respectfully disagree. Mongering in Bangkok is abysmal in 2022. Sometimes, I think it's better to hold on to the good memories than to spoil them in the cesspit of a few dozen borderline scary hardened bargirls, homeless-class freelancers and a huge proportion of ladyboys that ply their trade on lower Sukhumvit road. In my opinion, in Bangkok 2010 and earlier were the golden years, 2019 was already unappealing, and all we have now in 2022 are scattered pathetic remnants of 2019.

    Coming from some PFP desert, even the current disgusting scene might look good for a night or three, but after that the reality quickly sets in.
    I totally disagree with this assessment. Bangkok and Pattaya can both still be great if you know what you're doing. I'm having the best sex of my life with some of the best girls I have ever met in Bangkok. I do live here, I go to the bars twice a week and I work the online sites every day. Is it worth a 2 week visit based on the current cost? Not for me to judge it's not my money. But living here during Covid I get the best girls with little competition because of so few tourists, and by competition I mean timing not being good looking or having game or any of that other shit. I'm talking about being at the right place at the right time to find the best girl is easiser now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]

    Currently I believe the best bet is online, but as I've said many times here, it takes a lot of time and effort and most dudes on holiday or short time residents are not going to take the time. But it can be pretty great if you're a resident and want to put in the work.
    I can't believe it but I actually finally agree with something that Goatscrot said. I agree 100% with what he says above.

    Carlification: I'm not saying Goatscrot is ever wrong but I wasn't around Bangkok during all those old times he talks about so I only know about the good times from 2010 until now.

  7. #50691

    Sure, I agree but!

    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Currently I believe the best bet is online, but as I've said many times here, it takes a lot of time and effort and most dudes on holiday or short time residents are not going to take the time. But it can be pretty great if you're a resident and want to put in the work.
    Beggars can't be choosers. To each his own, but it's better than nothing. I still have cherished memories as well but it is what it is.

    Johnie.

  8. #50690
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    I respectfully disagree. Mongering in Bangkok is abysmal in 2022. Sometimes, I think it's better to hold on to the good memories than to spoil them in the cesspit of a few dozen borderline scary hardened bargirls, homeless-class freelancers and a huge proportion of ladyboys that ply their trade on lower Sukhumvit road. In my opinion, in Bangkok 2010 and earlier were the golden years, 2019 was already unappealing, and all we have now in 2022 are scattered pathetic remnants of 2019.

    Coming from some PFP desert, even the current disgusting scene might look good for a night or three, but after that the reality quickly sets in.
    I'd agree that mongering in the late 90's till the early 10's was amazing. Early 00's saw incredible Go-Go and freelancer scenes both in Bangkok and Pattaya. Gals were cheap and plentiful and always a buyer's market. Mid 00's till early 10's saw a huge decline and price increase in Go-Go's and freelancers but was the heyday of the oilies, Tulip, Mango, and Snow White. All are but a shadow of their former selves.

    Currently I believe the best bet is online, but as I've said many times here, it takes a lot of time and effort and most dudes on holiday or short time residents are not going to take the time. But it can be pretty great if you're a resident and want to put in the work.

  9. #50689
    Quote Originally Posted by Johnie  [View Original Post]
    In summary, is it worth coming, yes I think so. Plenty of SW about. Beats the poor sexual prisons in most places.
    I respectfully disagree. Mongering in Bangkok is abysmal in 2022. Sometimes, I think it's better to hold on to the good memories than to spoil them in the cesspit of a few dozen borderline scary hardened bargirls, homeless-class freelancers and a huge proportion of ladyboys that ply their trade on lower Sukhumvit road. In my opinion, in Bangkok 2010 and earlier were the golden years, 2019 was already unappealing, and all we have now in 2022 are scattered pathetic remnants of 2019.

    Coming from some PFP desert, even the current disgusting scene might look good for a night or three, but after that the reality quickly sets in.

  10. #50688

    BOTG Report

    For anyone interested, I have just successfully completed the latest Test & Go obstacle course marathon. Arrived late on Thursday night from Australia with hard copies of all my paperwork and just handed the entire bundle over to immigration. Processing was quick and after collecting my bag was able to buy a SIM card. No access to duty free however. Emerged at gate 10 and very little wait for my private and screened transport to the hotel. PCR test on the hotel car park roof and given a RAT test kit for day 5. Back down to Hotel reception, checked in, given my room key and told to wait until I got the test result in the morning. Negative COVID result received by email around 7 am, about 7 hours later. Free to go to breakfast!

    I did my own RAT test on day 5 (yesterday) which was negative again, fortunately. The Morchana app that I downloaded was not working (typical) so I was unable to upload a photo of my passport alongside of the negative test result. After consulting hotel reception I sent the pic the them and they said that they would upload it when the app was working again. Who knows if this will happen but kept the undated pic anyway.

    Old hands would be disappointed with the current nightlife. Only about 8 bars open in NEP, girls dancing in 3 and no showing except for tits in one. Soi Cowboy looked even worse, dancing and tits in one bar only but a lot of fun can be had with girls sitting outside the bars which are open.

    In summary, is it worth coming, yes I think so. Plenty of SW about. Beats the poor sexual prisons in most places.

    Yours in mongering, Johnie.

  11. #50687
    Quote Originally Posted by MaxBkk  [View Original Post]
    ...Due to regulations the girls are not meant to be in Bikinis and are not meant to dance. So you will see a lot of nearly fully clothed women hanging around...
    FWIW, in some clubs the girls wear see-through with bikini undergarments. Still not nude, but some progress.

  12. #50686
    Quote Originally Posted by Seeko  [View Original Post]
    ... Not sure why they didn't recycle the lower numbers, I. E. 1, 2, 3...
    The bar that used to be 'Enter' on the 3rd floor is now Rainbow 3. I wonder what they have in mind for 1 and 2?

  13. #50685

    GoGo's BKK

    An update for anyone coming to Bangkok at the moment. There are a number of GoGo's open in Bangkok now, however they don't operate like they did in the past.

    Due to regulations the girls are not meant to be in Bikinis and are not meant to dance. So you will see a lot of nearly fully clothed women hanging around. Very much unlike the fun that could be had pre covid.

    Add this to the much smaller amount of girls in each Gogo and that only 1/4 of clubs are open all equates to a much less fun experience.

    So if you are coming to BKK don't expect too much.

    Disclaimer: You will see the occasional club ignore the rules for a night or two, if you do see this it is really a bonus and probably not going to stay like that. For example one night we went to 1 Gogo and the girls were practically naked, the very next night they were all fully clothed again and looking bored. Nothing is the same.

  14. #50684
    Quote Originally Posted by TConor  [View Original Post]
    But believe it or not BTS has seats available most of the time. And no long lines at Siam or Asoke.
    Ya BTS is not crowded in covid era.

    After 8 pm, traffic is smooth in suk area. Unlike pre covid days where the jam lasts till 11 pm.

  15. #50683

    And morning traffic is bad, too

    Quote Originally Posted by LookingLooking  [View Original Post]
    Traffic is all right in Sukhumvit area. Just avoid rush hours between 6-8 pm for now.
    But believe it or not BTS has seats available most of the time. And no long lines at Siam or Asoke.

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