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  1. #54596
    Quote Originally Posted by MDave1981  [View Original Post]
    Met a hot freelancer at nana; 1 k St; claimed to be 27 but was probably 32 . Total GFE. Surprisingly spoke decent English. She works in quality control during the day and drives a bmw. Which was surprising. Anyways we did our thing; while leaving I gave her an extra 200 baht as tip: she as happy. She also offered to show me around Bangkok all day tomorrow but I have plans so told her I will take her for dinner at a nice place. She was real sweet but should I be perturbed by the fact that she was ok to show me around? She also mentioned her younger brother is a cop so if am in any trouble I can call her. What do you say guys? Considering her younger bro is a cop, am.

    I at risk of being scammed? I did take her out for dinner after I banged her and she was very sweet. No red flags. Also told her am in Bangkok for one night only.
    Red Flag for me would be she Charges only 1,000 baht.

  2. #54595
    Quote Originally Posted by MachchiBaba  [View Original Post]
    You are right about the knowledge on Wise, generally. Apparently, she works in finance remittance and ForEx dealings. I know her pretty well after all the time together. Her Bank where she works was on the other side of the Hotel I stayed. She would stay with me at the Hotel for the entire time I was there, she would walk over to the other side to work and she would come back during lunch time sometime and back after work. All that said, she absolutely may have a past.
    In that case I will withdraw my comment about her.

  3. #54594
    Quote Originally Posted by ChanChalupa  [View Original Post]
    Common knowledge certain people from certain parts of the world have to go that extra step to impress Bargirls.

    Whereas a good Asian may be required to buy one drink. Bad Asians may be required to buy 5. It's real folks.

    My friend Raj always has to be Surcharged when going out with his Good Asian Buddies. He is fine with it, he is embarrassed when he sees a fellow kinship buy one drink with 5 straws.
    You certainly have the right perspective based on populous views in Thailand and there may be several behavioral or other reasons to cite to backup this generalized perceived mindset. We humans, we base our quick decisions based on generalization, usually, that would seem convenient for us obviously. Generalization in decision making may work some of the time but there may be an element of success / failure probability. Some people may feel victimized for no reason at all.

  4. #54593

    Kapoo clubs and Fiwrans?

    Quote Originally Posted by SiamMan  [View Original Post]
    I agree. Fiwfans is ideal for the local market; both in terms of price and discretion. As Goatscrot says it does require some effort to get the hang of using it, but it can indeed be worth that effort. The only drawback I have found is, like Werqweq says, the unreliability of the photos provided; Photoshpped, bait-and-switch, etc.

    The other local market option is using the local Kapoo clubs. These are similarly priced for the locals and do not need as much online research. I live in the far suburbs on the outskirts of Bangkok where there are plenty of local options available, the majority of which are Farang friendly, with both the Kapoo clubs or Fiwfans.
    Aren't Kapoo clubs another option where, yes, you can hire young good looking girls but their typical "no sex" policy limits the sexual activity to Hand Jobs?

    Yes, that sounds very similar to the only skin-on-skin contact one can reliably count on with those Fiwfans supermodels. Perhaps an unreliable BBBJ+CIM if you're a long shot bettor. From what I've read and heard from punters who partake in Kapoo clubs and Fiwfans anyway.

    For those of us who are in this hobby primarily or almost exclusively for BBFS+CIP and are simply not willing to consider a HJ or masturbating onto a girl's stomach or boobs to be anything remotely like Real Sex, that limitation is too high a price to pay for bragging rights that you paid less and got naked with a better looking girl than the ones actually delivering Real Sex in Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy.

    Just sayin'.

  5. #54592

    The good old Spasso's Bar. What is the new equivalent?

    Quote Originally Posted by MachchiBaba  [View Original Post]
    For those of you who know the history prior to COVID. The Spasso's bar in the basement of Hotel Hyatt Erawan use to turn into an exclusive pickup joint at 10 pm every night. Live band, beautiful Thai, EE women, booze set that place up like no other. It was a bit expensive relatively, 5-Star rates applied but I guess it wasn't too bad at all. One could see beauties dressed elegantly step in through the door one after another while families would slowly leave, knowing the place will soon morph this evening classic Italian restaurant into a late night Adult Hookup House. This use to be my best hunting ground for two reasons - 1) I thought I did not miss much stepping out of the Hotel, all the better girls (so I think) walked over to the Daddies, no effort needed 2) The convenience was second to none, I could pick someone up and run up the elevator straight to the room in a minute flat.

    After COVID, they closed down the late night "Adult Hookup House", I suppose it is now a full-time family restaurant. Do any of you old timers here know a similar 5 Star Hotel Bar that might have a night gig like Spasso's still. I heard The Bamboo Bar located in The Mandarin Oriental hotel might be similar but I have not heard anything for sure. Are there others anyone would like to share?
    For many years I have known that good old things disappear and nothing equivalent comes in their place.

    About 10 years ago I was a big fan of the disco at the Novotel Siam (CM-2); that disappeared while nothing equivalent took its place.

    A few weeks ago I walked by the Hyatt before midnight, Spasso restaurant was already closed.

    I sat outside down wistfully on the railing and I remembered that somewhere around (2015-2018) you had from there a perfect when a woman / groups of women walked down the stairs to the garage. I remembered that I had good pick ups (or I was approached and could get a lift when she drove by past a few minutes later). An ideal place for smokers, but also as a non-smoker you could score well there. I have experienced that quite a few ladies visited Spassos that were not really in the business by default.

    A lot is changed after Covid; nowadays I try to find my luck again in shopping malls.

    It costs a lot more time but I'm usually over for 4 till 6 weeks so there's no reason if things don't move quickly.

  6. #54591
    Quote Originally Posted by VikPunter  [View Original Post]
    Trying to bump up this question as I am also interested in this response from local experts and people familiar with the BKK mongering scene. I RTFF the first 20-25 pages and couldn't find any recent information so appreciate guidance.

    I am interested in high-end pick up clubs, and credible escort agencies (I saw mention of Absolute Angels, Bangkok Golden. Any others?
    We agree. I too would like the answer and to find out about high end pick up clubs. Pimp, Sherberts, M club, Play, all fit that bill but don't have recent reports on them.

  7. #54590
    Quote Originally Posted by MachchiBaba  [View Original Post]
    For those of you who know the history prior to COVID. The Spasso's bar in the basement of Hotel Hyatt Erawan use to turn into an exclusive pickup joint at 10 pm every night. Live band, beautiful Thai, EE women, booze set that place up like no other. It was a bit expensive relatively, 5-Star rates applied but I guess it wasn't too bad at all. One could see beauties dressed elegantly step in through the door one after another while families would slowly leave, knowing the place will soon morph this evening classic Italian restaurant into a late night Adult Hookup House. This use to be my best hunting ground for two reasons - 1) I thought I did not miss much stepping out of the Hotel, all the better girls (so I think) walked over to the Daddies, no effort needed 2) The convenience was second to none, I could pick someone up and run up the elevator straight to the room in a minute flat.

    After COVID, they closed down the late night "Adult Hookup House", I suppose it is now a full-time family restaurant. Do any of you old timers here know a similar 5 Star Hotel Bar that might have a night gig like Spasso's still. I heard The Bamboo Bar located in The Mandarin Oriental hotel might be similar but I have not heard anything for sure. Are there others anyone would like to share?
    This was an excellent post. Disappointed nobody answered as I think a lot of us would love the answer. If there is a similar bar to this where is it in BKK?

  8. #54589
    Quote Originally Posted by ChanChalupa  [View Original Post]
    Unreliable photos is a Drawback? In my world it's a Deal Killer. Carry on gentle Man's.
    Gals don't want their identity known. Totally understandable to Photoshop. Usually the body is spot on though. Rest assured the majority looks better than what you see in Nana or Cowboy.

  9. #54588
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    What did he say that was wrong, The girls aren't independent, and they as a whole aren't superstars. I like Fiw when I'm lazy, even though the bulk of the babes are a schlep away. Nothanburi is close to me and their cheaper up there. But let's not pretend their supermodels and I'm sure not going out to Min buri or out to Laksi.

    To find out.
    Compared to what you see in the GoGos and most of the oilies, they might as well be supermodels.

  10. #54587

    Spasso / Mixx equivalent pickup places

    Quote Originally Posted by MachchiBaba  [View Original Post]
    For those of you who know the history prior to COVID. The Spasso's bar in the basement of Hotel Hyatt Erawan use to turn into an exclusive pickup joint at 10 pm every night. Live band, beautiful Thai, EE women, booze set that place up like no other. It was a bit expensive relatively, 5-Star rates applied but I guess it wasn't too bad at all. One could see beauties dressed elegantly step in through the door one after another while families would slowly leave, knowing the place will soon morph this evening classic Italian restaurant into a late night Adult Hookup House. This use to be my best hunting ground for two reasons - 1) I thought I did not miss much stepping out of the Hotel, all the better girls (so I think) walked over to the Daddies, no effort needed 2) The convenience was second to none, I could pick someone up and run up the elevator straight to the room in a minute flat.

    After COVID, they closed down the late night "Adult Hookup House", I suppose it is now a full-time family restaurant. Do any of you old timers here know a similar 5 Star Hotel Bar that might have a night gig like Spasso's still. I heard The Bamboo Bar located in The Mandarin Oriental hotel might be similar but I have not heard anything for sure. Are there others anyone would like to share?
    Trying to bump up this question as I am also interested in this response from local experts and people familiar with the BKK mongering scene. I RTFF the first 20-25 pages and couldn't find any recent information so appreciate guidance.

    I am interested in high-end pick up clubs, and credible escort agencies (I saw mention of Absolute Angels, Bangkok Golden. Any others?

  11. #54586
    Quote Originally Posted by MakeItOrBreak  [View Original Post]
    Do you happen to know if Sideline is managed by agents as well? Anyone using it? I tried to arrange something over LINE there but with my limited writing Thai and to be fair not contacting that many I failed. I got the impression some are independent in how they answered but not sure.

    When I am back I will try again and update with my hopefully success haha.
    It seems like the same thing for the most part, most of the agencies who are on Fwifans also crosspost to Sidelines.

  12. #54585
    Quote Originally Posted by SiamMan  [View Original Post]
    I agree. Fiwfans is ideal for the local market; both in terms of price and discretion. As Goatscrot says it does require some effort to get the hang of using it, but it can indeed be worth that effort. The only drawback I have found is, like Werqweq says, the unreliability of the photos provided; Photoshpped, bait-and-switch, etc.

    The other local market option is using the local Kapoo clubs. These are similarly priced for the locals and do not need as much online research. I live in the far suburbs on the outskirts of Bangkok where there are plenty of local options available, the majority of which are Farang friendly, with both the Kapoo clubs or Fiwfans.
    Unreliable photos is a Drawback? In my world it's a Deal Killer. Carry on gentle Man's.

  13. #54584

    Sideline

    Do you happen to know if Sideline is managed by agents as well? Anyone using it? I tried to arrange something over LINE there but with my limited writing Thai and to be fair not contacting that many I failed. I got the impression some are independent in how they answered but not sure.

    When I am back I will try again and update with my hopefully success haha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Yes, there is usually a drop in the "cover" as the locals say. Of course part is to enhance the looks and part is to obscure the identity. On some of the agent telegram groups there are more accurate photos posted of faces.

    I've had a few experiences where it was very obvious right when I walked in the room are very early in the session that the girl was not into it (perhaps really not being okay with foreigners) and it was not going to be good. I immediately contact the agent and depending on how far it went agreed to a small fee or nothing, and in the agent usually suggests another girl in the same hotel. I've never had an agent get agitated, rather always trying to work something out. Friend had a girl I just didn't want to do the second shot and the agent ended up refunding some money.
    Quote Originally Posted by SiamMan  [View Original Post]
    I agree. Fiwfans is ideal for the local market; both in terms of price and discretion. As Goatscrot says it does require some effort to get the hang of using it, but it can indeed be worth that effort. The only drawback I have found is, like Werqweq says, the unreliability of the photos provided; Photoshpped, bait-and-switch, etc.

    The other local market option is using the local Kapoo clubs. These are similarly priced for the locals and do not need as much online research. I live in the far suburbs on the outskirts of Bangkok where there are plenty of local options available, the majority of which are Farang friendly, with both the Kapoo clubs or Fiwfans.

  14. #54583
    Quote Originally Posted by Werqweq  [View Original Post]
    Do you always post so authoritatively about things you have no idea about?
    What did he say that was wrong, The girls aren't independent, and they as a whole aren't superstars. I like Fiw when I'm lazy, even though the bulk of the babes are a schlep away. Nothanburi is close to me and their cheaper up there. But let's not pretend their supermodels and I'm sure not going out to Min buri or out to Laksi.

    To find out.

  15. #54582

    Local Market Options

    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    I think they're pretty much spot on for the local market. Soapies have turned into clip joints for East Asian tourists, and the prices in Go-Go's are absolutely outrageous considering the quality. Oilies are kind of comparable but overall I would say have less attractive women than what's available online.
    The local punters want affordable and discreet as it's no longer acceptable to be seen going to a big soapy parlor with your workmates or friends like it was in the early '00s and before.
    I agree. Fiwfans is ideal for the local market; both in terms of price and discretion. As Goatscrot says it does require some effort to get the hang of using it, but it can indeed be worth that effort. The only drawback I have found is, like Werqweq says, the unreliability of the photos provided; Photoshpped, bait-and-switch, etc.

    The other local market option is using the local Kapoo clubs. These are similarly priced for the locals and do not need as much online research. I live in the far suburbs on the outskirts of Bangkok where there are plenty of local options available, the majority of which are Farang friendly, with both the Kapoo clubs or Fiwfans.

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