Bangkok Reports

[Bunky]

All this discussion of trying to negotiate an air tight agreement that spells out every last detail of the session between the sheets reminds me of the 1987 movie classic "Cherry 2000."

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092746/

For those who haven't seen it, the movie takes place in a dystopian future where robots have largely replaced humans as sexual partners. The few old-fashioned types who still frequent singles' bars are so adversarial that they negotiate a written contract right there in the club before leaving with each other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urS8GmwmeWQ

Yes, that's Laurence Fishburne playing the draftsman.

[Franciscass]

I don't take advantage of the poor. I pay them a fair price for their services. Most times it is market value. They have the option to decline my offer and some do. I never put pressure on a girl to take my offer. I offer it they say yes or no and that's that. Whats not understood is how I have the right to refuse her offer also. There is no deal without both party agreements. I have no problems with them saying no to the offer, I just walk away and ask another girl pretty simple. When I say I don't care I mean I can't be held responsible for the state of this world and everyone in it. I am not responsible for the why a girl has to sell herself on the streets to feed her family in the 1st place. I don't have that kind of power to fix all the worlds poverty problems so I remain apathetic to it all. Now If given the power to influence things I could fix it all. BUT of course nobody gives a rats ass what I think so it is what it is.

Sorry Streetwalker I must have picked you up wrong. I thought your modus operandi was to offer a 1000 and stick to it. It's true pussy can be had for a 1000 more likely in Pattaya than Bangkok but I thought you were talking about Thermae where the going rate for short time is 2500 maybe 2000 and even possible on occasion as low as 1500 but 1000, market value it is not!

Also may I say I find your argument nobody is forcing them to do anything they don't want to do somewhat specious, why? Because it doesn't take into account whether there is choice or not I. E. Take what's on offer or go without. I know that sounds a tad OTP but sometimes Streetwalker that's exactly how it is and whether it's our fault they are poor is not the point. I'm not talking overpaying or an NGO attitude just a good man with a good heart paying what is a fair price.

[Streetlooker]

Yeah but, don't you think if you've given them that offer, they'll give you a lackluster performance in the bedroom?. Mind you, I 100% agree with what you've said. I would never and have not paid no more than 1000. My thing is, it just screws up the whole ambiance for a piece of pussy when it turns into a cringy business proposition.

I have had good low priced performances, and bad low priced performances. I have also had good High priced performances and I have had some very bad High price performances. Performance is not a price thing Its a individual girl thing. Besides If I am unfortunate to have picked a Bad Performance girl from the street, Gogo bar, massage parlor, or a escort agent. I am a bit less upset about it if I didn't pay to much.

[Streetlooker]

You may be on a tight budget but with respect, doesn't it just bother you a little bit that you take advantage of their circumstances. Using that value system some unfortunate wench who hasn't eaten for 3 days should be happy to blow you for a bowl of noodles. I agree what's appropriate varies on circumstances and who and where you venture but why not pay the going rate and not make the girl feel like sad she has to fuck for so little because she needs the money so badly. And please and I am not suggesting you do but please don't use the ridiculous argument about minimum wage I. E. Because she is a poor farm girl from Essan she should be happy to fuck for 8 hours 4 hours whatever for 500 baht because its 200 baht above the minimum wage.

I don't take advantage of the poor. I pay them a fair price for their services. Most times it is market value. They have the option to decline my offer and some do. I never put pressure on a girl to take my offer. I offer it they say yes or no and that's that. Whats not understood is how I have the right to refuse her offer also. There is no deal without both party agreements. I have no problems with them saying no to the offer, I just walk away and ask another girl pretty simple. When I say I don't care I mean I can't be held responsible for the state of this world and everyone in it. I am not responsible for the why a girl has to sell herself on the streets to feed her family in the 1st place. I don't have that kind of power to fix all the worlds poverty problems so I remain apathetic to it all. Now If given the power to influence things I could fix it all. BUT of course nobody gives a rats ass what I think so it is what it is.

[Robert Long]

But there will always be prostitution.

If they serve food they can remain open.

[Goatscrot]

You may be on a tight budget but with respect, doesn't it just bother you a little bit that you take advantage of their circumstances. Using that value system some unfortunate wench who hasn't eaten for 3 days should be happy to blow you for a bowl of noodles. I agree what's appropriate varies on circumstances and who and where you venture but why not pay the going rate and not make the girl feel like sad she has to fuck for so little because she needs the money so badly. And please and I am not suggesting you do but please don't use the ridiculous argument about minimum wage I. E. Because she is a poor farm girl from Essan she should be happy to fuck for 8 hours 4 hours whatever for 500 baht because its 200 baht above the minimum wage.

Really? Lookers in the scene are making tall coin. Most of them squander it. Yes, there are a few that save, but very few. And with the bad attitudes some develop along with preferring tourist they can extract more money from as opposed to residents and regulars, and maybe getting a bit less but reliable and steady, they kind of made their own bed, wouldn't you say? Because in a month or two when this is over and the tourists come back they will again avoid our glance, ignore us, etc. So why should we not take advantage when the situation is to our advantage? They do.

[EihTooms]

You may be on a tight budget but with respect, doesn't it just bother you a little bit that you take advantage of their circumstances. Using that value system some unfortunate wench who hasn't eaten for 3 days should be happy to blow you for a bowl of noodles. I agree what's appropriate varies on circumstances and who and where you venture but why not pay the going rate and not make the girl feel like sad she has to fuck for so little because she needs the money so badly. And please and I am not suggesting you do but please don't use the ridiculous argument about minimum wage I. E. Because she is a poor farm girl from Essan she should be happy to fuck for 8 hours 4 hours whatever for 500 baht because its 200 baht above the minimum wage.

I'm not sure I have ever met a P4P girl in Thailand who's food for herself, food for her family, a roof over her head or load for her phone really did depended on whether or not I paid her for sex.

I have certainly heard many of them pitch it that way to me. No shortage of that over the years. But whenever I have declined to go along with that pitch due to, say, their refusal to agree to anything close to what I would consider worth my time and money, they still show up on the scene or on my Line days or weeks later looking just as well fed, healthy and smiley as before, no reports of deaths in the family from starvation.

So I guess it never really was down to that dramatic "life or death, rent or no rent, phone load or no phone load but for my money" point after all.

[CzarNicholas]

You may be on a tight budget but with respect, doesn't it just bother you a little bit that you take advantage of their circumstances. Using that value system some unfortunate wench who hasn't eaten for 3 days should be happy to blow you for a bowl of noodles. I agree what's appropriate varies on circumstances and who and where you venture but why not pay the going rate and not make the girl feel like sad she has to fuck for so little because she needs the money so badly. And please and I am not suggesting you do but please don't use the ridiculous argument about minimum wage I. E. Because she is a poor farm girl from Essan she should be happy to fuck for 8 hours 4 hours whatever for 500 baht because its 200 baht above the minimum wage.

Why is it that some mongers try to rationalize over paying hookers, many will say she can charge whatever the market will bear, or its my money, ill pay what I want.

But then a millisecond the market makes the slightest shift possibly favoring the monger more and you see posts like this, asking for empathy or compassion for the greedy hookers.

Its almost like some mongers act as advocates for higher prices for the hookers? When? All the time.

[BillionBill]

Just back from a mid afternoon wander from soi's 1 to 7/1 and from 8 to 2. Lots of closed doors but no problem getting a drink on Sukhunvit itself or on 8. Massage shops? , again some closed, no girls outside others but lights on inside and a few rub and tugs I inquired at were still operating albeit with fewer staff. Oddly both Lolita's and Kasalong were shuttered even though they don't strictly come under the massage shop qualification.

Please stay healthy and not get infected virus.

[HorseTrader]

You may be on a tight budget but with respect, doesn't it just bother you a little bit that you take advantage of their circumstances. Using that value system some unfortunate wench who hasn't eaten for 3 days should be happy to blow you for a bowl of noodles. I agree what's appropriate varies on circumstances and who and where you venture but why not pay the going rate and not make the girl feel like sad she has to fuck for so little because she needs the money so badly. And please and I am not suggesting you do but please don't use the ridiculous argument about minimum wage I. E. Because she is a poor farm girl from Essan she should be happy to fuck for 8 hours 4 hours whatever for 500 baht because its 200 baht above the minimum wage.

+1.

Well stated. Thank you.

[SuperBuilder2]

Same same: was disgusting, been talk about here a while back, they talk all good stuff, then horrible, would not let me touch them in shower and so on that was the start I also asked them to leave, can't believe their still around.

Feel even bad for you too. Horrible how they are.

[Gargano19]

Yeah but, don't you think if you've given them that offer, they'll give you a lackluster performance in the bedroom?. Mind you, I 100% agree with what you've said. I would never and have not paid no more than 1000. My thing is, it just screws up the whole ambiance for a piece of pussy when it turns into a cringy business proposition.

That's a good perspective. Many would on this forum including me pays a lot more than 1000, because I prefer hot chicks and they're just not so easily available for 1 k. But the market price should not be more than $30-50 in the first place, but tourists have just changed the game.

[Gargano19]

I told a repeat FL and gogo girl who had been pestering me for days to meet them again that I would love to meet them again but my usa business income was less now, too, so I could not give them 2,500 baht as usual. I wanted to see how they would handle that information.

Neither of them countered with, "Oh, honey, 2,000 is ok." Or, "No problem, just give what you can."

Instead, they just stopped Line messaging me. LOL.

Haha no surprise. They would rather take a loss rather than change the price. Though my luck was better, 2 of my regulars agreed to take less earlier this month. So some benefits of this whole bad situation.

[Franciscass]

Don't bother me if you can; t pay for food for your family or your rent or load for your phone.

You may be on a tight budget but with respect, doesn't it just bother you a little bit that you take advantage of their circumstances. Using that value system some unfortunate wench who hasn't eaten for 3 days should be happy to blow you for a bowl of noodles. I agree what's appropriate varies on circumstances and who and where you venture but why not pay the going rate and not make the girl feel like sad she has to fuck for so little because she needs the money so badly. And please and I am not suggesting you do but please don't use the ridiculous argument about minimum wage I. E. Because she is a poor farm girl from Essan she should be happy to fuck for 8 hours 4 hours whatever for 500 baht because its 200 baht above the minimum wage.

[MeatMan]

I just walk if they don't take my offer of less. I say 1000 they want 2500 then might go to 1500 even but I stick to 1000 and walk if they don't want it. I always put them in a take it or leave it situation. Don't bother me if you can; t pay for food for your family or your rent or load for your phone. A few times I have walked by them again 2 hrs later they are still standing there. I give them the 1000 offer again most take it.

Yeah but, don't you think if you've given them that offer, they'll give you a lackluster performance in the bedroom?. Mind you, I 100% agree with what you've said. I would never and have not paid no more than 1000. My thing is, it just screws up the whole ambiance for a piece of pussy when it turns into a cringy business proposition.