Bangkok Reports

[Syzygies]

When things go wrong with your evening in Thailand, all is not lost.

Had an evening available for mongering. Started out with a quick bite at Quenn Vistoria Pub near Soi Cowboy and enjoying watching the English get trashed by Sri Lanka in the cricket. Had already called to my favourite bargirl at Dollshouse, but got the bad news that she was busy today. So what to do? Maybe get a girl or two from Suzie Wong.

Sat with a regular girl at SW for a while and let her dance once and do her "aap-naam" soap-sudsing show. Hostess/waitress "Or" and two mamasans had suggested a couple of girls as real goers, by customer reports. Was pondering over whether to take a 2nd girl as well but decided not to. Just was about to pay the bar fine, when some other guy walks in a bar fines her immediately. Slow on the draw can be deadly. I had already invested in a few drinks and so was slightly pissed off. Paid the bill and left.

Thought I would check out the Baccara hostesses that wear black. Went with a good one once before. Most of the hot hostesses seem to have been taken already by 11Pm on a Saturday. So went inside for a quick drink to see if any known girls were still there. Not really.

Spotted a girl sitting in the corner who looked quite pretty to me and slim how I like them. Called her over, and she seemed real friendly and bubbly despite looking very shy in the corner before. Turned out she was a newbie (just 1 month) age 25. She had to go dance, and I immediately thought she was much prettier / sexier the girls doing the special show just before.

So this time got her bar fined quickly before anything futher could go wrong. Turned out to be incredibly good fun in bed. Better than a GFE. Squirmed around while doing DATY but she never wanted me to stop. So gave her more DATY later. Had no baby and body was very nice with maybe smallish apple bottom and well shaped near to B cups.

Her blow job was veeeerrrrry slow (just as slow as Tulip Dao) which is how I like it. It never ceases to amaze me how few girls are capable of slow BBBJ.

She was not able to stay all night but more than happy to give me a second round before she left. Money had not been discussed, but she had assessed right that I am not a stingy type. I got a 2nd shot not long after the first, which is normal for many guys, but rare for me. So she was just that hot.

As its very normal for me to not discuss money with the girl, I thought I would ask her if she doesn't discuss the price with every customer. Turns out it depends on the style of the customer or his nationality to some extent. Some countries have a reputation as stingy, she hears from other girls. So mostly with western Farangs she doesn't discuss the price. She said she has had only one non-Farang customer, Japanese and did check the price with him, as Japanese were a somewhat unknown quantity to her. She is a picky with her customers too she said. They must smell nice for example and seem very clean.

We joked around and had a lot of fun. She doesn't like overly serious customers.

Guys, rule No. 1: Don't ask the girl why such a nice girl is doing this job, and wanting money for sex? The girl doesn't ask you why you are so hard up that you would pay to go with bar-girls that you consider to be low-class.

Anyway, she indicated that any customers who ask too many questions will get knocked back. She has to earn money but wants a fun time as well.

For really Thai horny girls, the opportunity to get sex with nice Farangs and get paid for it as well, can be good. She tells me she is done with Thai men, lives with mom now, and just wants to have fun with no BF, or maybe a really nice Farang BF one day.

So my evening turned from nearly ruined to gold, as she may be just about to take over the "Favourite Bar-girl on Cowboy" title. Oh shit, forgot to get her phone number. Will have to fix that in a hurry. There are still really super bar-girls around, so go-gos are not yet a total bore for me.

[Pita123]

Some of this does tie in with the first email template though which helps a lot.

How's your template look?

[GermanBoy 2]

Have had some bad moments at soy cowboy. First impression has been that girls are much more beautiful, cute and young then at nana. Started to chat with one, had a couple of drinks with her (lady drink of course) and it was really nice. When I wanted to go with her she said that this is impossible, cause she is not for take away, only for customers amusement in the bar. This happened to me at 2 different places.

Afterwards I asked in 3 other bars the mamasan in the begining, and yes, it was always the same. Girls in one uniform are not for take away, girls in another uniform are therefore. Unfortunately in my eyes the no-go-girls have been by far much more atractive.

In nana, as far as I know, girls are in general not as pretty. Therefore everyone is for take away menue. So I prefer that place in future cause it is really stupid if you think "thats the one". And then it is not.

[OC Ass Man]

It's a Soapy, not a restaurant.

http://www.labelle-entertainment.com/

Mssr Nic has the right of it. They have food, but it's a Soapy. This was "Lunch", not Lunch.

[Chill Out]

I usually go out with a Thai crew and the way my Thai mates treat their "date"du jour is bordering on the inhumane. Going ST / LT with most farang is a holiday compared to working a Thai crowd.

I would like to hear more about this (from you and others if they have anecdotes). What exactly have you witnessed?

[Bowerboy]

Agree completely. Each to their own but I absolutely refuse to chat on MSN. I just don't have time for it and if they want to endlessly chat on MSN then chances are they just online to flirt and play games. Most girls will give you their number if you explain your situation and ask politely (I am so sorry to be impolite and I hope you don't mind me asking but would it be ok with you if I took your phone number. I am sorry to ask but it is very difficult for me to chat on MSN as it is blocked in our office. I hope you don't mind and I apologise again for asking something like this so soon but I am very interested to meet you and see if we have a nice connection, don't worry I am a very nice guy I promise, you will see). Some of this does tie in with the first email template though which helps a lot.

[Bowerboy]

Hi Chill Out.

Thai Girls are something of a mystery really. I guess its part of the magic and allure. I just think its a case that it may not be the right time for them on the first meeting for various reasons (another guy they are interested in, recently broken heart and not quite ready and so on and so on) As mentioned you just move up and down their priority list depending on their personal circumstances.

One extremely important thing is the feeling of being safe and secure. This is huge for the Thai girls. If they feel horny and do want no strings attached then they want it to be with someone they feel safe and secure with. You have to clearly demonstrate that you understand that no means no and that you are not pushy and super respectful. This will take you very very far with a lot of Thai girls.

Another weird thing is the "loyalty" that gets built up. Its extraordinary and I can't really understand it. I met a stewardess from Bangkok Airways (on a flight not online). We met a couple times and enede up in bed but she made it very very clear that she didn't want a farang boyfriend and was waiting for Thai Mr Right. She found him and he was a Pilot on Bangkok Airways. But even so she would still come and stay with me perhaps once a month and I never really understood why. It was almost like a loyalty thing or bacause she felt comfortable and so why not. It stopped after about a year and she is married now but I have countless other stories like this. I am an average looking guy and I assume average in bed but I know for sure that girls feel extremely secure and comfortable when I meet them and I think this plays a huge part although I don't completely understand it.

@Nic: fair enough. Quite comparable to my situation in China.

@Bowerboy: in your opinion, how do you explain the initial lukewarm interest then the interested messages a few weeks later? I imagine you talk to the girls about it; what's the explanation?

[Pita123]

I don't think the OP meant "Force Her" in a negative or Brutal Way, I think he just meant that sometimes you get that "unsure resistance" from a girl but she isn't really saying no. So you kind of push your way in.

I prefer the word "coax" for this approach.

[Evianist]

I have 3 preset message templates. 1st Message, Reply to First Message, Third Message.

If I haven't got the phone number and agreement to meet for coffee by message 3 then I abandon that prospect (there is a right way to ask for the phone number and a wrong way. I am not giving up all my secrets)!

I never talk about sex or anything remotely like that in the messages.

I tell them I don't have time to msn or chat but much prefer to meet in person (there is a right way to ask and a wrong way. I am not giving up all my secrets)!

Arrange to meet for coffee (never lunch or dinner, too big a commitment and too expensive and no easy bail out)

Choose a cheap coffee shop very close (3 minutes walk) to your apartment (Starbucks too expensive if pursuing many leads).

Never think about sex on the first date (unless it is blindingly obvious). Meet for coffee only and be super nice and super polite (I used to aim for sex on first date but the strike rate is low compared to the long term benefits of the patient approach. Aiming for sex on first date is for amateurs and everyone is trying that. Possible 5 years ago but game has changed now).

You seem to know what you're doing bowerboy. I imagine you end up with as many girls as you can handle.

I don't work with as many girls simultaneously as you do, but my approach is more or less the same. Trying to minimize MSN chatting, and not bringing up sex constantly seems to be the key.

I had a couple girls who were hesitant and weren't warming up, even after a couple meetings. Then I kind of pulled back and waited and after a couple weeks something changed and we soon slept together. Oddly enough, these types ended up being the most passionate and sexual in bed, whereas the ones I slept with the first night sometimes ended up being a little boring.

[CoyoteLover]

I don't think the OP meant "Force Her" in a negative or Brutal Way, I think he just meant that sometimes you get that "unsure resistance" from a girl but she isn't really saying no. So you kind of push your way in.

I remember a lady from ANGEL (soi 24/1) who did not want me to DATY. She said no and put her hand on her pussy. I removed her hand and started to lick her. She tried closing her legs but to no avail. Once she "came" she gave me a Great DFK and a Thank you.

"No means yes but well, sometimes no means NO!" was a difficult concept for me to grasp when I first got exposed to Asia. Especially with a barfine where I really have no idea how to read the girl but after a while I boiled it down to this:

"Unsure Resistance" is best responded to with "Playful assertiveness".

[CoyoteLover]

No coyotes and drink wh0res. Less touristy. The girls are mostly looking for you to take them out, as opposed to Cowboy girls who just stare at themselves in the mirrors while they're dancing.

Most of my favorite girls have come from Nana.

If you want to see some shows and have a fun night out, go to Cowboy. If you want to take girls home, go to Nana.

Coyote are fun!

Though not the Soi Cowboy concept of coyote. In Soi Cowboy they totally perverted the coyote concept.

[CoyoteLover]

These girls would never behave like that with a Thai guy. They play with the niceness of the white Buffalo.

This is so true!

I usually go out with a Thai crew and the way my Thai mates treat their "date"du jour is bordering on the inhumane. Going ST / LT with most farang is a holiday compared to working a Thai crowd.

I am always respectful, clean and polite with my girls but if I get the odd bad apple and she's trying to screw me I have to change gears quickly and get into asshole mode or lose control over the situation and be taken advantage of. I took some Thai guys into a busy bar in Soi Cowboy several times and they were just astonished by the stupidity of some of the things they saw.

[NicFrenchy]

@OC ass man: so is La Belle an afternoon place? Do you have to have lunch there or can you just roll in and get a girl?

It's a Soapy, not a restaurant.

http://www.labelle-entertainment.com/

[Chill Out]

@OC ass man: so is La Belle an afternoon place? Do you have to have lunch there or can you just roll in and get a girl?

[Chill Out]

@Nic: fair enough. Quite comparable to my situation in China.

@Bowerboy: in your opinion, how do you explain the initial lukewarm interest then the interested messages a few weeks later? I imagine you talk to the girls about it; what's the explanation?