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  1. #50981

    Appreciate the feedback guys!

    Quote Originally Posted by SexIsLove  [View Original Post]
    So I am all set to land on May 16th at BKK for two weeks stay but I am having second thoughts to cancel my trip. Hotel reservations and Thailand pass all done and good. Question is how are things in Bangkok wrt to nightlife specifically nightclubs (Mixx, Levels, Insanity etc.), Thermae, Grand Hyatt Erwan night bar, and the usual go-go bars at Nana and Soi. Pre-covid my visits would typically entail foot / thai massages, maybe the odd visit to a BJ bar during the day and evenings would be Thermae, sometimes go-go bars for shorttime company and then the nightclubs in that order unless I had found someone good enough for long time in the former venues.

    Have things opened up enough for this kind of action now? Thanks.
    Thanks for all the response. I have canceled my current visit and will reconsider again in September. Have a great time folks wherever you are!

  2. #50980

    Great Report

    Quote Originally Posted by MamaGuevos  [View Original Post]
    Set up a date with a TF girl. We agreed on DFK and BBBJ; BBFS was not available at any price. I nodded off to sleep about 20 minutes after she was supposed to show and an hour later awoke to see a text from her "you sleeping" "I go drinking with girlfriends."

    So I go to one of the massage places on Soi 33. Mamasan is drop dead gorgeous but refuses to go with me. I say, find me a lady who does BJ with no condom. 3 of 6 girls raise their hands and I choose the one whose hand is up first (I like enthusiasm). To my surprise, the room has a jacuzzi and she bathes me, blows me, dries me off, oils herself up, slides my back and then my front and gives an excellent BBBJ. She refuses more money for BBFS but does a great ride. I finish on top and she showers me. All for 2400 baht.

    This morning, another TF girl who advertises "massage" shows up at 8:45 am (15 minute early). We shower and she shyly kisses me, let's me finger her until she is wet and climbs on top. No mention of a condom. I manage to pull out just before the event and spray my sheets. More BBBJ and a shower and she is off. Wow! A great start to a work week for me!
    Great Report. I am coming to BKK late May as well. Just checking if Thai Friendly is worth joining. Their free service is too restrictive. Thinking of taking a one month subscription.

  3. #50979

    Different eyes I suppose

    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    I had the misfortune of being in Billboard Saturday night myself. Yes there were a lot of dudes, however, the ratio of men to women was terrible, and the talent level was absolutely horrific. Spent about 30 or so minutes in there and saw one girl that I would consider.
    If "absolutely horrific" would be your assessment of the looks of all or most of the girls I saw on stage and in the tub without a customer but presumably open to being called down by one during the hour I was there, Goatscrot, then you have a much, much, much higher standard for P4P girl looks than I have and any experienced monger I have ever met in my 50 years of mongering.

    While that might be so, I must say I have not seen photos of girls in fiwfans or any of the other supposedly "stunner" booking sites that, minus the expected photo doctoring, would represent a notably better line up than several of the girls I saw live and in the flesh that night.

    And I am pretty sure that based on what I have read and heard re fiwfans and the like all those other experienced mongers I've known and I would have a much better chance of enjoying BBFS+CIP Real Sex on a first session with girls in the Billboard line up I saw who would match or surpass the looks of girls on fiwfans who might grudgingly allow one bareback stroke and out after jumping through hoops to repeat with her 3-4 times.

    So there is that.

  4. #50978
    Quote Originally Posted by CarloRogue  [View Original Post]
    This is sad to hear. Especially for me, as I have the opportunity to travel for the next month unlike anytime in the last 10 years. From all I've read, BKK would be the best option for my Asian preferences, and other vanilla tourist destinations in the region. I was also considering the Phils, but I'm told to expect even less culturally. So, question for the board: should I make it BKK with low expectations, or try another destination you recommend? Thanks in advance.
    I would still go to Thailand.

    And still see Bangkok, but with lower expectations.

    As an alternative visit Phuket which is very alive.

    Or split your time between Bangkok and Phuket.

  5. #50977
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I can say for sure Levels and Insanity are still closed as of this writing. Thermae is open but attendance by girls is running about 20-25% normal times because attendance by customers is running about the same.

    Don't know about the other places you specifically mentioned.

    Some Nana go-go bars are open, most beer bars are open except for the Soi 7 group of bars. But more are open on Soi 11 than pre-Covid.

    Many of the more famous BJ Bars are open but with providers greatly reduced in number and looks quality.

    Massage shops of the kind you described are open everywhere.

    With a minimum of effort you can definitely get sex and blowjobs here any day or night at rates similar to or a bit less than during normal times. Your selection options will be less but so will your punter competition.

    As far as the looks of the girls and quality of service you will encounter in these post-Covid times, that is going to vary wildly hour to hour, location by location. No way for anyone to predict with any reliability. The 20 best girls in the city could all decide to accept a month on some dude's yacht the day you arrive or the 50 best girls in the provinces might have just arrived hungry and broke the day you arrive and half of them started working in the little hole-in-the-wall beer bar next to your hotel.

    I will say this; I was in Billboard go-go bar in Nana Plaza last Saturday night and it was as packed with hot girls and partying customers as I have ever seen. I didn't call down a girl or interact with one because I didn't get a return smile or welcome vibe from any of the ones I was attracted to for the hour or so I was there. Therefore, I have no idea how good any of them are at their job other than being good at ignoring me. LOL.
    I had the misfortune of being in Billboard Saturday night myself. Yes there were a lot of dudes, however, the ratio of men to women was terrible, and the talent level was absolutely horrific. Spent about 30 or so minutes in there and saw one girl that I would consider.

  6. #50976
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    The less you expect, the better your visit will be. Thermae is open, Nana is open, a few bars in Soi Cowboy are open too. As for BJ bars, I'd say the best one now is Duangporn's (former Soms) with a fair number of performers, BJ bars on soi 7/ x are open, Kasalong is open with 2 rough looking women. Star of Light is closed, sadly.

    However, listing what's open does not paint the whole picture. The entire scene is a shadow of its former self. On the first glance, it's sufficiently lively to give you an impression that stuff is happening, but if you look closely, I'd describe it as dire, depressing, borderline disgusting. If you're coming from a sex desert like the US, you'll manage to stick it into enough holes to justify the trip, but it would help if you also enjoy Bangkok for other reasons.

    The other day, I heard the old song "one night in Bangkok and the world's your oyster", and nearly wept. That kind of vibe is long gone. One night in Bangkok, and you might find a passable one among all the bottom of the barrel working ladies of the first and second kind. At least the prices are low, unless you look like a total mug.

    Problem is, I'm not sure the Bangkok scene will get substantially better 6-12 months down the line. It's possible it'll just get more expensive as hordes of horny mongers rush into Thailand after 2 years of abstinence. Thailand has changed in many ways over the last decade, and I can't see a massive influx of new, fresh, good looking Thai girls rushing in to meet that demand. I certainly hope I'm wrong.
    Well stated Croc. A scene that was in decline for some time before covid is now absolutely dire. A friend was in town and wanted to go to Nana and I went with him. The talent level was absolutely abominable with unattractive, overweight older women expecting the same amount of money that younger fairly attractive women were wanting pre-covid. They were quite a few dudes looking to have a good time, most obviously tourists. After the bars closed we saw groups of these guys roaming about looking for something to do. Well, there really isn't much to do. Honestly, it's still not bad for the resident who can speak a little Thai and is comfortable with the online scene, but as far as coming here is a tourist looking for P4 P fun, well, I certainly wouldn't recommend it at this point. And my guess is it's not going to improve anytime soon. Crocs prediction about lots of mongers, fewer girls, and higher prices will certainly come to pass. I will add to that though, after the first big wave of mongers sees that there's not much to offer, they too will stop coming in droves, and find other hunting grounds and the scene here in Thailand will continue to drop off.

  7. #50975
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    The less you expect, the better your visit will be. Thermae is open, Nana is open, a few bars in Soi Cowboy are open too. As for BJ bars, I'd say the best one now is Duangporn's (former Soms) with a fair number of performers, BJ bars on soi 7/ x are open, Kasalong is open with 2 rough looking women. Star of Light is closed, sadly.

    However, listing what's open does not paint the whole picture. The entire scene is a shadow of its former self. On the first glance, it's sufficiently lively to give you an impression that stuff is happening, but if you look closely, I'd describe it as dire, depressing, borderline disgusting. If you're coming from a sex desert like the US, you'll manage to stick it into enough holes to justify the trip, but it would help if you also enjoy Bangkok for other reasons.

    The other day, I heard the old song "one night in Bangkok and the world's your oyster", and nearly wept. That kind of vibe is long gone. One night in Bangkok, and you might find a passable one among all the bottom of the barrel working ladies of the first and second kind..
    This is sad to hear. Especially for me, as I have the opportunity to travel for the next month unlike anytime in the last 10 years. From all I've read, BKK would be the best option for my Asian preferences, and other vanilla tourist destinations in the region. I was also considering the Phils, but I'm told to expect even less culturally. So, question for the board: should I make it BKK with low expectations, or try another destination you recommend? Thanks in advance.

  8. #50974
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    The less you expect, the better your visit will be. Thermae is open, Nana is open, a few bars in Soi Cowboy are open too. As for BJ bars, I'd say the best one now is Duangporn's (former Soms) with a fair number of performers, BJ bars on soi 7/ x are open, Kasalong is open with 2 rough looking women. Star of Light is closed, sadly.

    However, listing what's open does not paint the whole picture. The entire scene is a shadow of its former self. On the first glance, it's sufficiently lively to give you an impression that stuff is happening, but if you look closely, I'd describe it as dire, depressing, borderline disgusting. If you're coming from a sex desert like the US, you'll manage to stick it into enough holes to justify the trip, but it would help if you also enjoy Bangkok for other reasons.

    The other day, I heard the old song "one night in Bangkok and the world's your oyster", and nearly wept. That kind of vibe is long gone. One night in Bangkok, and you might find a passable one among all the bottom of the barrel working ladies of the first and second kind. At least the prices are low, unless you look like a total mug..
    Scene was Dying pre-covid.

    Good advice-. Don't expect much you will be alright.

  9. #50973
    Quote Originally Posted by SexIsLove  [View Original Post]
    Question is how are things in Bangkok wrt to nightlife specifically nightclubs (Mixx, Levels, Insanity etc.), Thermae, Grand Hyatt Erwan night bar, and the usual go-go bars at Nana and Soi. Pre-covid my visits would typically entail foot / thai massages, maybe the odd visit to a BJ bar during the day and evenings would be Thermae, sometimes go-go bars for shorttime company and then the nightclubs in that order unless I had found someone good enough for long time in the former venues.

    Have things opened up enough for this kind of action now? Thanks.
    The less you expect, the better your visit will be. Thermae is open, Nana is open, a few bars in Soi Cowboy are open too. As for BJ bars, I'd say the best one now is Duangporn's (former Soms) with a fair number of performers, BJ bars on soi 7/ x are open, Kasalong is open with 2 rough looking women. Star of Light is closed, sadly.

    However, listing what's open does not paint the whole picture. The entire scene is a shadow of its former self. On the first glance, it's sufficiently lively to give you an impression that stuff is happening, but if you look closely, I'd describe it as dire, depressing, borderline disgusting. If you're coming from a sex desert like the US, you'll manage to stick it into enough holes to justify the trip, but it would help if you also enjoy Bangkok for other reasons.

    The other day, I heard the old song "one night in Bangkok and the world's your oyster", and nearly wept. That kind of vibe is long gone. One night in Bangkok, and you might find a passable one among all the bottom of the barrel working ladies of the first and second kind. At least the prices are low, unless you look like a total mug.

    Problem is, I'm not sure the Bangkok scene will get substantially better 6-12 months down the line. It's possible it'll just get more expensive as hordes of horny mongers rush into Thailand after 2 years of abstinence. Thailand has changed in many ways over the last decade, and I can't see a massive influx of new, fresh, good looking Thai girls rushing in to meet that demand. I certainly hope I'm wrong.

  10. #50972

    My observation

    Quote Originally Posted by SexIsLove  [View Original Post]
    So I am all set to land on May 16th at BKK for two weeks stay but I am having second thoughts to cancel my trip. Hotel reservations and Thailand pass all done and good. Question is how are things in Bangkok wrt to nightlife specifically nightclubs (Mixx, Levels, Insanity etc.), Thermae, Grand Hyatt Erwan night bar, and the usual go-go bars at Nana and Soi. Pre-covid my visits would typically entail foot / thai massages, maybe the odd visit to a BJ bar during the day and evenings would be Thermae, sometimes go-go bars for shorttime company and then the nightclubs in that order unless I had found someone good enough for long time in the former venues.

    Have things opened up enough for this kind of action now? Thanks.
    I can say for sure Levels and Insanity are still closed as of this writing. Thermae is open but attendance by girls is running about 20-25% normal times because attendance by customers is running about the same.

    Don't know about the other places you specifically mentioned.

    Some Nana go-go bars are open, most beer bars are open except for the Soi 7 group of bars. But more are open on Soi 11 than pre-Covid.

    Many of the more famous BJ Bars are open but with providers greatly reduced in number and looks quality.

    Massage shops of the kind you described are open everywhere.

    With a minimum of effort you can definitely get sex and blowjobs here any day or night at rates similar to or a bit less than during normal times. Your selection options will be less but so will your punter competition.

    As far as the looks of the girls and quality of service you will encounter in these post-Covid times, that is going to vary wildly hour to hour, location by location. No way for anyone to predict with any reliability. The 20 best girls in the city could all decide to accept a month on some dude's yacht the day you arrive or the 50 best girls in the provinces might have just arrived hungry and broke the day you arrive and half of them started working in the little hole-in-the-wall beer bar next to your hotel.

    I will say this; I was in Billboard go-go bar in Nana Plaza last Saturday night and it was as packed with hot girls and partying customers as I have ever seen. I didn't call down a girl or interact with one because I didn't get a return smile or welcome vibe from any of the ones I was attracted to for the hour or so I was there. Therefore, I have no idea how good any of them are at their job other than being good at ignoring me. LOL.

  11. #50971
    Quote Originally Posted by TConor  [View Original Post]
    Even places like Snowwhite have closed. I would give it a little more time, or set very low expectations.
    Go-go are closed in BKK. I'll go Bangkok and the rest of Thailand mid-June! But all the girls are here! You can find them on Tinder! And in Phuket, everything is opened!

  12. #50970

    It ain't what it used to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by SexIsLove  [View Original Post]
    So I am all set to land on May 16th at BKK for two weeks stay but I am having second thoughts to cancel my trip. Hotel reservations and Thailand pass all done and good. Question is how are things in Bangkok wrt to nightlife specifically nightclubs (Mixx, Levels, Insanity etc.), Thermae, Grand Hyatt Erwan night bar, and the usual go-go bars at Nana and Soi. Pre-covid my visits would typically entail foot / thai massages, maybe the odd visit to a BJ bar during the day and evenings would be Thermae, sometimes go-go bars for shorttime company and then the nightclubs in that order unless I had found someone good enough for long time in the former venues.

    Have things opened up enough for this kind of action now? Thanks.
    Even places like Snowwhite have closed. I would give it a little more time, or set very low expectations.

  13. #50969
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Having successful experiences with online sideline girls takes a lot of research. Simply going to fiwfans, looking for girls you find attractive, scanning a couple of translated reviews, and choosing just doesn't cut it. You have to join the agents Telegram groups, the local lads telegram review groups, translate them, and figure out the cryptic way in which they review the gals. The Thai dudes just don't say many negative things, but drop very subtle hints when things are not up to their expectations. It takes quite a while to be able to read through the fluff, I spent hours and hours over months before I felt pretty confident in knowing what to expect. Now my selections are pretty spot on, but still get a dud every once in awhile. The local online scene is really not for the casual tourist. It is just too time consuming. Most tourists do not want to spend the majority of their holiday sitting in their room doing research, they want to be out having fun, which is kind of the antithesis of what most residents want. For the visitor to Thailand I think sites such as Thai friendly, tinder, WeChat, and other easy to navigate methods are better if one wants to hunt online. But with some of the bars opening and many of oily parlors now kind of back in full swing, options for the visitor are there..
    Thanks Goatscroat.

    The part I wasn't aware of was the other group review forums on telegram you mentioned. I hadn't read about those before. As to your assessment, I agree 100% it's not for the tourist, I didn't think it was before I went, and was positive of such afterwards.

    BTW, I'm not a tourist per se, maybe to Bangkok as I'm not resident here, but have been here a lot. I've been based in Phuket for over 5 years, speak Thai well enough and understand the culture well enough too to read through the reviews.

    The two girls I initially chose were done so both times with direct guidance from the agents, based on the services advertised and confirmation from the agents in text discussions. As both times I was allowed to immediately switch to other of their girls to have delivered what I'd asked for, pretty much shows the issues with delivery were it seems "in the rooms".

    The things I found was the services many of the girls were told to deliver were ones that didn't, or no longer, wanted to do, and that was the problem. The girls were as advertised, no bait and switch, just take a few points of out of.

    10 for photoshopped looks, no makeup, and cooped up in a room eating habits.

    I will add that I'm a 20 year plus punter, and used to reading between the lines of reviews and agent bullshit upsell, both in Thailand and before, so I didn't go in with out of kilter expectations. I merely went in to experience and assess what FiwFans was and what it was like. To see if it was worthwhile for me.

  14. #50968

    Appreciate any feedback

    So I am all set to land on May 16th at BKK for two weeks stay but I am having second thoughts to cancel my trip. Hotel reservations and Thailand pass all done and good. Question is how are things in Bangkok wrt to nightlife specifically nightclubs (Mixx, Levels, Insanity etc.), Thermae, Grand Hyatt Erwan night bar, and the usual go-go bars at Nana and Soi. Pre-covid my visits would typically entail foot / thai massages, maybe the odd visit to a BJ bar during the day and evenings would be Thermae, sometimes go-go bars for shorttime company and then the nightclubs in that order unless I had found someone good enough for long time in the former venues.

    Have things opened up enough for this kind of action now? Thanks.

  15. #50967

    Speaking the local lingo

    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Having successful experiences///: is possible with most./////
    I'll also add that while speaking the local lingo is not necessary it helps////.
    This is easier said than done. I am fluent in Spanish, Portuguese, English and I speak passable French. My Italian takes a week in Italy to be meaningful but then I can chat politics with anyone (for those of you who think American politics are convoluted, try learning about Italian politics). As a result, I can get girls from most Western European countries without problems. But Thai is different. I have been in BKK about 10 times and can only say thank you in Thai. I tried Pimsleur for a month and got nowhere.

    Thank God for Google Translate!

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