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  1. #56082

    Nightclubs in BKK

    I used to pick up FL in Insanity. Since it has closed I would like to find a nightclub similar to Insanity. Any recommendations would be appreciated?

    / Kirsia.

  2. #56081
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Could not agree more. Want two pops in 90 min and I'm done. Can't get out of there fast enough.
    As we get Older, we find time is too precious to waste on a woman.

  3. #56080

    An Overdue Trip Report

    As always, very appreciative of the information here that was useful in my recent adventures in Thailand. A bit delayed, so some details are fuzzy, but wanted to offer a report of a late November / early December trip to Thailand. Overall I spent 4 days in Bangkok and, as usual, sampled a variety of activities. Organizing by type of establishment since I can't remember what I did when.

    Massage Parlors.

    I often suffer from decision paralysis when considering Bangkok massage shops. I also dislike wandering around to check out lineups. Should I choose the most popular, the most expensive? The quest to answer this question shall continue, but this time I made two visits to Hunny Bunny.

    On my first visit I selected Love from the lineup mamasan sent me via Line. Booked 90 minutes and arrived to be greeted by a very small and very cute provider.

    Our time in the room began slowly, but as she warmed to me during our shower, things loosened up. Started with the standard activities on the bed. Completed the first round before moving to the massive tub. While soaking together, I discovered that Love is a certified massage therapist and she offered to give me a Thai massage on the bed before round two. It was magical! None of the half-baked "massage" that you might be used to in between rounds. I wish I would have booked two hours with her so that the massage could have continued before pop number two.

    Throughout the time, Love was sweet, genuine, and aimed to please. Would recommend.

    A few days later, propelled by my enjoyable encounter with Love, I booked another 90 minutes. Love was not working so I chose a different provider whose name I can't recall, but this was a much less enjoyable time. Mechanical service, fake moans, etc. No need to delve into the nitty gritty since this is simply one of the risks of massage shops and especially of pre-booking online. See'est la vie.

    Overall, I enjoyed Hunny Bunny. The location is convenient enough, the facilities were quite nice, and mamasan was helpful.

    BJ Bars.

    BJ bars have long been my favorite outlet in Bangkok. I like being able to walk in, sit down, do no work, and leave.

    On this visit I made it to Wood Bar, Lolitas, Kasalong, 7-Heaven (twice), and Duangporn Haven.

    No need to do a full report here since there's lot of info out there already and, frankly, what could be simpler than a BJ bar?

    I will say, though, that 7-Heaven was awesome and I ended up going twice. I'm willing to pay a premium for a young, attractive girl and both that I met were very good at their work. One even offered me a second round, which I understand used to be SOP there, but I declined as I was spent. The mamasan was also willing to help me choose from the (digital) lineup so that I got what I wanted.

    Fair warning: the girls in 7-Heaven seem to hang around right behind the wall in the rear of the reception and can hear your requests. This ended up working in my favor as one of the girls I selected mentioned it in the room and played up my request, much to my delight.

    Fwifans.

    For the first time after many visits to Bangkok, I have Fiwfans a shot when I found myself on the outskirts of the city for an appointment. Found a promising ad, booked, and showed up to the skeezy hotel at the appointed time.

    The girl was not even close to the photos, but she was pleasant enough that I stuck around. I wouldn't repeat though. Mechanical service in a 1 star hotel room just doesn't do it for me when there are other amazing options available all over the city. Plus I just had this nagging worry the entire time about being the only apparent foreigner in the neighborhood and having walked into a skeezy motel. I'the rather not have Thai legal issues. Probably not a real worry, but I couldn't shake it and never worry about that in other Bangkok establishments.

    Obviously YMMV, but I had been excited about using Fiwfans and now think it's maybe not worth the extra effort for short-time visitors.

    Tinder and Thai Friendly.

    My experience in Bangkok has been that freebies are difficult to find, unlike, say, the Philippines or other SEA locations and are a better bet for long-term residents with plenty of time for trial and error. I got lucky on this visit though!

    Matched on Tinder with one slightly chubby mid-20's gal who spoke perfect English and just outright asked me if I wanted to smash before inviting me to her well-appointed apartment. Thinking I was going to get robbed or scammed, I left most valuables in the hotel safe and then threw caution to the wind and grabbed a taxi. 25 minutes later I was enjoying a beer that she offered me while her head bobbed in my lap before we went multiple rounds in the evening. Talk about good luck!

    Second success was a mid-40's woman from TF who was nearly as forthright as the previous and offered to come to my hotel in the afternoon. Thinking again that this was a scam, I hid my valuables and welcomed her in upon arrival. I kept waiting for the scam to come, but I did instead. Turns out she was also a bikini competition model of some sort and had the body of someone twenty years younger. Much fun was had.

    Had lots of other potentially fruitful conversations on TF, but there's only so much time in the day and I decided not to gamble my evenings on unsure things. Wish I had more time for that sort of exploration, though.

    The moral here is that freebies are certainly available for short-term visitors, but you will need plenty of luck, lots of patience, and many failed conversations to get there.

  4. #56079

    Two day short trip at BKK

    Thanks for Senior's help on many information. I arrived BKK 30 minutes after midnight and immigration took 40 minutes. As others told I went all the way low level to exchange but found it was closed. Came back to arrival level and exchanged there. But later found near Phrom Phong station better price like 2. 5TH per 1 $. You get high rate for 100 or 50's though.

    Day-1.

    Started late after brunch and stop by Snow White. Already sorted out from website and went there and picked. Picked 24-year-old but I could say 27 or more but very good service and massage also good. Utilized whole hour. The next encounter is from TF. It is a time consuming but choose 21-year-old and she agreed for a quick video call. She is on time and waiting for me at lobby. I am happy to see (not much difference from her photos). Once inside a room took shower separately and started. Then she said very quick BJ only and no DFK. I was upset but continued anyway. I don't see any connection and finished the deed.

    Then I went to Authentic Thai massage and two hour package for foot and facial. I felt so good and almost midnight went to bed straight.

    Day-2.

    Previous day bad experience with TF I wanted try MP again and choose HoneyBee. I am glad I did and had a fantastic time with 24-year-old Thai girl. She went above and spent little over hour. I tipped her and came back to room for rest. Then went to Robin Hood bar and had few drinks went again to HoneyBee and tried another one I saw in the morning. They have three shops near by and you can choose from any shops. She is young and cute. Gave a decent massage and great BBBJ and finished in cover. Same routine shower, massage, main event then shower. I am exhausted by evening. I was walking around Sukhumvit road between Soi-22 to Soi-26. Went again to Authentic Thai massage for 90 minutes deep Thai massage and done for the day.

    Want to try Cowboys and Nana next time and don't want to spend any more time with TF.

  5. #56078
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican  [View Original Post]
    Now a days I'm exclusively short time. I don't want to sleep with anyone overnight as I don't sleep well with strangers in my bed. And usually after a fuck I've pretty much lost interest in the girl. In Bangkok I like the massage parlors best. Go there, fuck, come home and sleep in my nice clean 5 star hotel bed by myself. I'm not interested in dating these girls anyway. In the past though I have met non pros who are interesting and sexy enough to hold my attention for multiple days. Sadly those are unicorns in Thailand now for short term visitors. So I don't even bother looking. Point Click Fuck and go home.
    Could not agree more. Want two pops in 90 min and I'm done. Can't get out of there fast enough.

  6. #56077
    Quote Originally Posted by JoshAllen  [View Original Post]
    Hey all,

    First time trip to Bangkok + wherever x 3 wks coming up soon. I am in the process of reviewing the last 500 pages because why not? I really do find it fascinating, although the COVID period was a slog.

    One thing I'm not clear about is spending time with the ladies for things other than sex.

    TL; DR: Why do people do it? I'm not implying they shouldn't. I am curious why though.

    F
    Now a days I'm exclusively short time. I don't want to sleep with anyone overnight as I don't sleep well with strangers in my bed. And usually after a fuck I've pretty much lost interest in the girl. In Bangkok I like the massage parlors best. Go there, fuck, come home and sleep in my nice clean 5 star hotel bed by myself. I'm not interested in dating these girls anyway. In the past though I have met non pros who are interesting and sexy enough to hold my attention for multiple days. Sadly those are unicorns in Thailand now for short term visitors. So I don't even bother looking. Point Click Fuck and go home.

  7. #56076

    Fiwfans. A meh experience

    I was in Bangkok for a couple of days and booked two incalls after some research on Fiwfans. This lead me to several Telegram channels of agencies where they post everyday who is on the roster. Then, super easy to book via Line in literally two messages.

    Meet with Bubble from TSG Sideline agency.

    Booked for 90 min, 2200 Baht + 400 CIM extra, 2 shots. Money first. Shower together.

    That was the girl from the photo but not that cute. Slim petite body. Little English. Sweet girl.

    Service was OK, kissing allowed but only for 10's then turned her head, she worked hard to please me but a bit too scripted for my liking. She also used tissues to constantly wipe the saliva she left on my body. Pretty strange. The BJ skill was good, no deepthroat though, allowed some facefuck and the CIM was long and she kept sucking long after. Sex in all the positions I wanted.

    Got also a nice long massage between rounds while she modestly claimed that she wasn't good at it.

    Meet with Ingfah from Madam88888 agency.

    Booked for 90 min, 2800 Baht + 400 CIM extra, 2 shots. Money first. Shower together.

    Photos pretty accurate with amazing big natural rack. More than descent English. But the positives stop here. This has to be one of the worse experience I had in my 10 years +. She didn't smile once, was pretty cold and directive. She was not willing to work, complained that she can't suck for too long after 5 minutes. Didn't want to lick my balls. Didn't allow titfuck. At some point I lost my erection and I knew it won't come back. The mood was gone and she wasn't doing anything about it. So after 30 min, I stopped everything and told her that I am going to leave and will pay only for the 30 min. She didn't take it well, blaming me (of course), wanted to argue with me but I know it is best to just remain calm and not get into their mind games. When I went to the shower, I'm pretty sure that she insulted me in Thai When I came back, she gave me back the money for the time not spent and the extra, said more bad things while I was getting dressed. But I just had a smirk on my face and did not respond which I think annoyed her even more Left without a word and wrote to the agency which just reply "I am sorry for you".

    I don't think I will use incall service again. I usually don't and prefer outcalls. I am not into the bar / agogo scene). Girls are usually too used to their scenario and routine.

  8. #56075

    Long Time

    Quote Originally Posted by SeaTraveler  [View Original Post]
    I am from the States as well. Been visiting Southeast Asia for 20 years. Worked in Indonesia for a year (2014).

    Unless you speak Thai, I see no reason for anything beyond ST. Communication issues. Or lack thereof. Will be a bummer.
    Your choice Mate.

    Obviously some Yankies are different to some Aussies.

    I make sure the girl can talk to me first. Then I make sure she is sexy.

    The rest is just what I like. LT. I am not a morning sex person so most of the time I just get up. Shower and we go for a feed. I spend the day with her. We have fun together. I might have sex 5 times in 2 days. Maybe less maybe more.

    I don't care. I love hearing her fart in the middle of the night. Looking at her in the buff when she is asleep. And so on. Money never enters my mind after we have made a choice.

    Cheers Mate. Please have lots of fun.

  9. #56074

    Long Time

    Quote Originally Posted by JoshAllen  [View Original Post]
    Hey all,

    First time trip to Bangkok + wherever x 3 wks coming up soon. I am in the process of reviewing the last 500 pages because why not? I really do find it fascinating, although the COVID period was a slog.

    One thing I'm not clear about is spending time with the ladies for things other than sex.

    TL; DR: Why do people do it? I'm not implying they shouldn't. I am curious why though.

    For example, I saw one rare mention of going out to dinner with TF girls (as opposed to the very direct "Here for ST, what's your LINE?" approach). Basically going on a date. I got the impression it was to build some rapport which I guess makes the intimate time later more fulfilling? I am not totally sure. Down side being there aren't any guarantees I guess. Anyways, do any of you do this? If so can you expand on that a bit? What has been your experience? I assume you are still hoping for sex. How do you play your cards? I guess a part of me feels I'll be more satisfied forming some sort of connection, if ever so brief. But maybe that's naive.

    Or "holiday girlfriends". I mean it's obviously going to end. So is it just a value issue? Less work finding women, less money, more efficient? Or is it the enjoyment of a young lady's company? I feel like it would be a slippery slope for me. It seems like I could fall for a young, attractive, sweet girl pretty easily spending a lot of quality time with her. Then what? It would suck to have to sober up to reality again as I know would be absolutely necessary. So if you do holiday girlfriends, what do you like and not like about it?

    And as far as LT goes, why do people do it? Is it just for more sex, more shots, and more value? Or are there other intangibles? Enjoying time hanging out? Is it weird at all to hang with someone you barely know, then in the morning be like "Ok, seeya" ? If anybody has a lot of LT experience and thoughts about why they like it, I'd be very interested to hear about that.

    This whole scene is totally new to me, so I am trying to wrap my head around these things. Mainly I've been a CAMP monger (rub and tug and bye bye) in the States.

    A hearty thanks to all the contributors. I have a huge outline of references from the numerous informative posts that grabbed my eye. Essentially there are more options than I know what to do with.

    Cheers.
    Always been a LT bloke.

    The reason. Nothing to do with money. Ha.

    I love getting to know a girl. Sleeping together. Waking up. Showering together. Having breakfast together.

    I don't like ST probably had 2 in my life. And only at the insistence of the lady. Not my choice.

    Any way I am not putting shit on ST that is a choice. I like LT. That is my choice.

    Have fun fellas.

  10. #56073

    Not like the golden days

    I lived in Thailand between 2000 - 2010 and had such a great time. Mostly because the exchange rate was 70 b to the pound. Beers in gogos were 100, freelancers 1000 b LT in pattaya, 500 B beach road quicky. The soapys 1800 b for a gorgeous girl.

    I'm here in bkk again seeing an old friend and shocked at everything here. Absolute dogs around and RIDICULOUS prices. Quab lom which means greed in thai has hit the fan and its not worth venturing out only you want to get depressed.

    For anyone thinking of a sex session here go elsewhere!

  11. #56072

    It is what you like that matters

    Quote Originally Posted by JoshAllen  [View Original Post]
    Hey all,

    First time trip to Bangkok + wherever x 3 wks coming up soon. I am in the process of reviewing the last 500 pages because why not? I really do find it fascinating, although the COVID period was a slog.

    One thing I'm not clear about is spending time with the ladies for things other than sex.

    TL; DR: Why do people do it? I'm not implying they shouldn't. I am curious why though.

    For example, I saw one rare mention of going out to dinner with TF girls (as opposed to the very direct "Here for ST, what's your LINE?" approach). Basically going on a date. I got the impression it was to build some rapport which I guess makes the intimate time later more fulfilling? I am not totally sure. Down side being there aren't any guarantees I guess. Anyways, do any of you do this? If so can you expand on that a bit? What has been your experience? I assume you are still hoping for sex. How do you play your cards? I guess a part of me feels I'll be more satisfied forming some sort of connection, if ever so brief. But maybe that's naive.

    Or "holiday girlfriends". I mean it's obviously going to end. So is it just a value issue? Less work finding women, less money, more efficient? Or is it the enjoyment of a young lady's company? I feel like it would be a slippery slope for me. It seems like I could fall for a young, attractive, sweet girl pretty easily spending a lot of quality time with her. Then what? It would suck to have to sober up to reality again as I know would be absolutely necessary. So if you do holiday girlfriends, what do you like and not like about it?

    And as far as LT goes, why do people do it? Is it just for more sex, more shots, and more value? Or are there other intangibles? Enjoying time hanging out? Is it weird at all to hang with someone you barely know, then in the morning be like "Ok, seeya" ? If anybody has a lot of LT experience and thoughts about why they like it, I'd be very interested to hear about that.

    This whole scene is totally new to me, so I am trying to wrap my head around these things. Mainly I've been a CAMP monger (rub and tug and bye bye) in the States.

    A hearty thanks to all the contributors. I have a huge outline of references from the numerous informative posts that grabbed my eye. Essentially there are more options than I know what to do with.

    Cheers.
    Reasons to take a girl out to eat. First, you just bar fined her but you are also hungry so you stop on the way and grab a bite to eat before going back to your room. Second you are tired of eating alone. This can happen if you are there long enough. The best reason for taking a Thai girl out to eat is that they are a local and know the cheapest and best places to eat. Food is cheap in Thailand so the cost is minimal. Be warned that feeding a Thai girl can delay the beginning of sex since they may want to let the food settle before letting you stick your cock in their mouth.

    Long time or short time is just a personal preference. Some guys like to have the option of waking up in the morning and having another round. Some guys are one and done and like to sleep alone.

    As far as holiday girlfriends that is another personal preference. Some guys like banging the same chick and having her available when needed. Some guys just want to rack up the body count and have no desire to repeat. Of course if you are traveling around Thailand a holiday girlfriend can be of value since some places fuckable women are in short supply. Also they speak the language and can be somewhat helpful.

    The important thing is be open minded and discover what you like. Try short time and if you find a girl that is great in bed and you want to repeat then take her long time. And yes the danger of attachment is always there. You just have to manage it.

    Good luck.

  12. #56071
    Quote Originally Posted by JoshAllen  [View Original Post]
    And as far as LT goes, why do people do it? Is it just for more sex, more shots, and more value? Or are there other intangibles? Enjoying time hanging out? Is it weird at all to hang with someone you barely know, then in the morning be like "Ok, seeya" ? If anybody has a lot of LT experience and thoughts about why they like it, I'd be very interested to hear about that.
    I used to do LT because I wanted that GF experience and just taking her with me to have dinner, hit up the club, raise my social value when I'm out and about, prevent other dudes from taking her that night, and go boom boom in the end.

    These days, I'm all about ST. My recommendation is if you gel with the girl and have an awesome time the first time around, then feel free to do LT. Otherwise, never do LT the first time you're with a girl.

  13. #56070
    Quote Originally Posted by JoshAllen  [View Original Post]
    Hey all,

    First time trip to Bangkok + wherever x 3 wks coming up soon. I am in the process of reviewing the last 500 pages because why not?

    One thing I'm not clear about is spending time with the ladies for things other than sex.

    Cheers.
    I am from the States as well. Been visiting Southeast Asia for 20 years. Worked in Indonesia for a year (2014).

    Unless you speak Thai, I see no reason for anything beyond ST. Communication issues. Or lack thereof. Will be a bummer.

  14. #56069
    Quote Originally Posted by JoshAllen  [View Original Post]
    Hey all,

    First time trip to Bangkok + wherever x 3 wks coming up soon. I am in the process of reviewing the last 500 pages because why not? I really do find it fascinating, although the COVID period was a slog.

    One thing I'm not clear about is spending time with the ladies for things other than sex.

    TL; DR: Why do people do it? I'm not implying they shouldn't. I am curious why though.

    For example, I saw one rare mention of going out to dinner with TF girls (as opposed to the very direct "Here for ST, what's your LINE?" approach). Basically going on a date. I got the impression it was to build some rapport which I guess makes the intimate time later more fulfilling? I am not totally sure. Down side being there aren't any guarantees I guess. Anyways, do any of you do this? If so can you expand on that a bit? What has been your experience? I assume you are still hoping for sex. How do you play your cards? I guess a part of me feels I'll be more satisfied forming some sort of connection, if ever so brief. But maybe that's naive.

    Or "holiday girlfriends". I mean it's obviously going to end. So is it just a value issue? Less work finding women, less money, more efficient? Or is it the enjoyment of a young lady's company? I feel like it would be a slippery slope for me. It seems like I could fall for a young, attractive, sweet girl pretty easily spending a lot of quality time with her. Then what? It would suck to have to sober up to reality again as I know would be absolutely necessary. So if you do holiday girlfriends, what do you like and not like about it?

    And as far as LT goes, why do people do it? Is it just for more sex, more shots, and more value? Or are there other intangibles? Enjoying time hanging out? Is it weird at all to hang with someone you barely know, then in the morning be like "Ok, seeya" ? If anybody has a lot of LT experience and thoughts about why they like it, I'd be very interested to hear about that.

    This whole scene is totally new to me, so I am trying to wrap my head around these things. Mainly I've been a CAMP monger (rub and tug and bye bye) in the States.

    A hearty thanks to all the contributors. I have a huge outline of references from the numerous informative posts that grabbed my eye. Essentially there are more options than I know what to do with.

    Cheers.
    Jesus Christ. That's a lot of questions. Esp from a 3-poster regardless that you RTFF. You're thinking too hard. Cash up and go have fun.

  15. #56068

    Questions about activities with the girls other than ST

    Hey all,

    First time trip to Bangkok + wherever x 3 wks coming up soon. I am in the process of reviewing the last 500 pages because why not? I really do find it fascinating, although the COVID period was a slog.

    One thing I'm not clear about is spending time with the ladies for things other than sex.

    TL; DR: Why do people do it? I'm not implying they shouldn't. I am curious why though.

    For example, I saw one rare mention of going out to dinner with TF girls (as opposed to the very direct "Here for ST, what's your LINE?" approach). Basically going on a date. I got the impression it was to build some rapport which I guess makes the intimate time later more fulfilling? I am not totally sure. Down side being there aren't any guarantees I guess. Anyways, do any of you do this? If so can you expand on that a bit? What has been your experience? I assume you are still hoping for sex. How do you play your cards? I guess a part of me feels I'll be more satisfied forming some sort of connection, if ever so brief. But maybe that's naive.

    Or "holiday girlfriends". I mean it's obviously going to end. So is it just a value issue? Less work finding women, less money, more efficient? Or is it the enjoyment of a young lady's company? I feel like it would be a slippery slope for me. It seems like I could fall for a young, attractive, sweet girl pretty easily spending a lot of quality time with her. Then what? It would suck to have to sober up to reality again as I know would be absolutely necessary. So if you do holiday girlfriends, what do you like and not like about it?

    And as far as LT goes, why do people do it? Is it just for more sex, more shots, and more value? Or are there other intangibles? Enjoying time hanging out? Is it weird at all to hang with someone you barely know, then in the morning be like "Ok, seeya" ? If anybody has a lot of LT experience and thoughts about why they like it, I'd be very interested to hear about that.

    This whole scene is totally new to me, so I am trying to wrap my head around these things. Mainly I've been a CAMP monger (rub and tug and bye bye) in the States.

    A hearty thanks to all the contributors. I have a huge outline of references from the numerous informative posts that grabbed my eye. Essentially there are more options than I know what to do with.

    Cheers.

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