Bangkok Reports

[EihTooms]

ET I get your BBFS plus CIP requirement to enjoy sex, I do but are you suggesting that girls who don't do BBFS because they don't want to risk their health only provide what you describe as a "dismal minimum level of service" and "dismal basic standard fare".

Sure if sex is no more than sticking your dick into that orifice between her legs and pounding away till you cum then maybe but for me and if I may be presumptuous for others as well there is a lot more going on.

Obviously it's not the same for all but personally as part of a session I enjoy starting with a sensual massage then exploring her body. When we get going I like rimming, cat licking, BBBJ, DATY, 69, like some role playing (use your imagination) and the use of toys, a little spanking giving and receiving, sometimes not always but when its OK with the girl doing anal or finishing with a hand job on her face or if she looks like she wants me to in her mouth, during all of this some dirty talking particularly at the right time. The main event, my covered dick in her pussy exploring which action she prefers, hands under her ass, feet up or around my body body, hard soft, quick slow, stay in and move, almost out and back in, fully out and back in and doing all of these in a variety of positions, doggy being one my favorites.

Yes if its BB its better but the diminution of tactile sensation is not such that it's ah fuck this for a game of soldiers I can't feel anything situation. Also the quality of condoms nowadays is pretty good and helps a lot but mostly it's the peace of mind that I'm not pissing razor blades a week later or taking meds for the rest of my life.

I've learned over the years the most important sex organ is the brain which brings me to that most desirable of happenings, chemistry. If the girl likes me, if she has the imagination, the skill set, the energy and most importantly the desire to make me happy wearing a condom does not mean the sex is basic or dismal, far far from it.

The Invisible Man.

Back to the point of my post you quoted, Franciscass, are you then saying the "performance up" you have noticed during these dire economic times is that the better looking go-go girls are now submitting to the rimming you require, going along with the toy play, the mutual spanking and so on much more readily and will perhaps even submit to these unusual requests of yours at deep discount rates more often now than they did during normal times when they had more alternative customer options and more money in their purse?

[Crocodilexp]

Now, with those same covers I can't maintain erection for even the first pop. The Trojan Magnum Bareskin with additional silicone lube on the inside is OK for my first pop, but often I can't perform twice a day like that.

Sildenafil Citrate works perfectly for maintaining erection, and it costs as low as 50-100 baht / dose depending on how much you need. For me, half a 50 MG pill works just fine. Far easier, cheaper, safer, and less anti-social than trying to convince an unwilling or reluctant working girl to go bareback.

Decent looking girls are so few and far between these days I couldn't imagine intentionally narrowing my playing field to 20%-30% or so of those available (and that's on the uglier / older side, not randomly picked).

[HorseTrader]

Yes if its BB its better but the diminution of tactile sensation is not such that it's ah fuck this for a game of soldiers I can't feel anything situation. Also the quality of condoms nowadays is pretty good and helps a lot but mostly it's the peace of mind that I'm not pissing razor blades a week later or taking meds for the rest of my life.

I can relate to everything that ET writes, we are both older than most posters. I still stay covered for the first session of the day, but the second session is always difficult while covered (and sometimes impossible). I only spend 30 to 60 days per year in Thailand and I try to make the most of every day.

The situation of "I can't feel anything" seems to be age related. When I was 45 I needed a cover to lessen the sensation to keep me from popping on about the 3rd stroke. Now, with those same covers I can't maintain erection for even the first pop. The Trojan Magnum Bareskin with additional silicone lube on the inside is OK for my first pop, but often I can't perform twice a day like that.

If BBFS CIP were just a matter of an extra 1000 baht, I'd pay it every time. I've had a vasectomy so my real concern is diseases.

[CzarNicholas]

ET I get your BBFS plus CIP requirement to enjoy sex, I do but are you suggesting that girls who don't do BBFS because they don't want to risk their health only provide what you describe as a "dismal minimum level of service" and "dismal basic standard fare".

Sure if sex is no more than sticking your dick into that orifice between her legs and pounding away till you cum then maybe but for me and if I may be presumptuous for others as well there is a lot more going on.

Obviously it's not the same for all but personally as part of a session I enjoy starting with a sensual massage then exploring her body. When we get going I like rimming, cat licking, BBBJ, DATY, 69, like some role playing (use your imagination) and the use of toys, a little spanking giving and receiving, sometimes not always but when its OK with the girl doing anal or finishing with a hand job on her face or if she looks like she wants me to in her mouth, during all of this some dirty talking particularly at the right time. The main event, my covered dick in her pussy exploring which action she prefers, hands under her ass, feet up or around my body body, hard soft, quick slow, stay in and move, almost out and back in, fully out and back in and doing all of these in a variety of positions, doggy being one my favorites.

Yes if its BB its better but the diminution of tactile sensation is not such that it's ah fuck this for a game of soldiers I can't feel anything situation. Also the quality of condoms nowadays is pretty good and helps a lot but mostly it's the peace of mind that I'm not pissing razor blades a week later or taking meds for the rest of my life.

I've learned over the years the most important sex organ is the brain which brings me to that most desirable of happenings, chemistry. If the girl likes me, if she has the imagination, the skill set, the energy and most importantly the desire to make me happy wearing a condom does not mean the sex is basic or dismal, far far from it.

The Invisible Man.

Sounds like.

Your describing eating some nice birthday cake with all the frostings and candles etc.

But its just a shell, no cake inside, just a sad prank.

[Franciscass]

Can't say I am finding that to be true about go-go girls above a minimally doable 7 that I have encountered yet. And I hit a few go-go bars to buy LDs and interview girls 3-4 times per week now.

I'm not interviewing less attractive ones than that so I can't say what they are offering for less these days. But when I interview the ones that are clearly the better looking ones without much mental gymnastics and debate about it, the vast majority are not agreeing to one iota more than the dismal basic standard fare they would have agreed to for the most free spending, low demand Capitalist they jumped on during normal times.

That is from Playskool and Cactus Bar to Billboard and Baccara and several in between. Wish I could say otherwise. But it is not there yet for me.

Will they go along with 1,500 baht for that same dismal minimum level of service instead of 2,000 - 2,500 baht? I get a sense they probably would if I worked it longer, bought a couple more LDs. But I have so little interest in working longer for nothing special regardless of the discount I just move on to another bar. And neither the girls nor the mamasans seem the least bit interested in stopping me to find out why and if there is something they can do to change my mind. .

ET I get your BBFS plus CIP requirement to enjoy sex, I do but are you suggesting that girls who don't do BBFS because they don't want to risk their health only provide what you describe as a "dismal minimum level of service" and "dismal basic standard fare".

Sure if sex is no more than sticking your dick into that orifice between her legs and pounding away till you cum then maybe but for me and if I may be presumptuous for others as well there is a lot more going on.

Obviously it's not the same for all but personally as part of a session I enjoy starting with a sensual massage then exploring her body. When we get going I like rimming, cat licking, BBBJ, DATY, 69, like some role playing (use your imagination) and the use of toys, a little spanking giving and receiving, sometimes not always but when its OK with the girl doing anal or finishing with a hand job on her face or if she looks like she wants me to in her mouth, during all of this some dirty talking particularly at the right time. The main event, my covered dick in her pussy exploring which action she prefers, hands under her ass, feet up or around my body body, hard soft, quick slow, stay in and move, almost out and back in, fully out and back in and doing all of these in a variety of positions, doggy being one my favorites.

Yes if its BB its better but the diminution of tactile sensation is not such that it's ah fuck this for a game of soldiers I can't feel anything situation. Also the quality of condoms nowadays is pretty good and helps a lot but mostly it's the peace of mind that I'm not pissing razor blades a week later or taking meds for the rest of my life.

I've learned over the years the most important sex organ is the brain which brings me to that most desirable of happenings, chemistry. If the girl likes me, if she has the imagination, the skill set, the energy and most importantly the desire to make me happy wearing a condom does not mean the sex is basic or dismal, far far from it.

The Invisible Man.

[Goatscrot]

Granted. And that would explain the "prices down" part of it.

But for any and all punters who were already getting plenty of Covered FS as it was routinely provided by all girls during normal times at then current rates, what would you say is the "performance up" part being agreed to more freely by the better lookers these days?

I mean, that required a Pandemic of epic proportions and near catestrophic worldwide economic disaster to the level of something like 1 customer for every 100+ girls for them to finally start agreeing to provide?

I have a few friends who have started frequenting GoGos again after many years. Gals are willing to grab your unit, provide some hardcore fondling, and even heard of some hummers being given in bars where gals were not really allowing touching. And yes, these gals are going for less than they were pre-Covid. And some of the better lookers as well. This is what it was like 20 years ago folks.

Buddy in Pattaya, who has your BBFS requirement minus the CIP, was paying 1. 5-2 k for his gals off Thai Friendly (many of whom are quite good looking) and now he starts at an offer of 800 and usually pays no more than 1 k.

Yep, what it has taken is the tourists (namely Asians) to be gone. And most of the punters left here are Western guys. We're more demanding and aren't willing to pay exorbitant prices for service that is less than we received years ago. We demand good attitudes, looks and good service. We want GFEs and PSEs from every session. And if the gals want to make money, that is what they have to provide.

But, this will be the end of the line. When tourism returns to normal and the Asian dudes return, the gals will go right back to getting 3 k or so for providing very little and we will really be pariahs then.

[EihTooms]

Of course with your particular requirements, I am not surprised that you are finding things not so different. But for those of us that don't require BBFS + CIP, then the hunting is a bit better just due to the fact there are not so many dudes around.

Granted. And that would explain the "prices down" part of it.

But for any and all punters who were already getting plenty of Covered FS as it was routinely provided by all girls during normal times at then current rates, what would you say is the "performance up" part being agreed to more freely by the better lookers these days?

I mean, that required a Pandemic of epic proportions and near catestrophic worldwide economic disaster to the level of something like 1 customer for every 100+ girls for them to finally start agreeing to provide?

[Franciscass]

Sadly there are many of our brethren who don't consider there are others after them. If the scene or "market" is ruined, eventually it's ruined for all of us.

Covid has brought a refreshing return to the old days with prices down and performance up. I'd wager just about any Go-Go gal can be had for 1500. It is the gals competing for us. And that's the way it should be. For those of you who have been here less than a decade, this is what it was like.
Sadly as soon as the hordes return from East Asia, Singapore, and HK, it'll be back to high prices and gals doing far less than they are now.

Enjoy it while it lasts.

Nice to see Goatscrot that your nostalgia for the good ole days is at last a little closer to being realized. I've commented before on what for me at least is the amazing new reality of a visit to a go go bar. Little or no competition which means almost all girls are available without hesitation. I wasn't a go go fan before, the hustle, too crowded, lady drinks, bar fines. Feeling if there were young Asians sitting beside me I would have to settle for less than the top talent. It's still not the cheapest shag in town, lady drinks and bar fines are still as far as I can make out as they were but I now pay no more than 2000 for the girls time. As to service again not having a lot of experience with go go girls, nor having special needs, I cannot tell if there is a difference in their enthusiasm to give you a good time but mostly I have been happy. I sympathize with our members who are unable to be here even more so knowing when finally they are allowed back in it will be most likely be back to business as usual and the good ole days will again become nostalgia.

[Goatscrot]

Can't say I am finding that to be true about go-go girls above a minimally doable 7 that I have encountered yet. And I hit a few go-go bars to buy LDs and interview girls 3-4 times per week now.

I'm not interviewing less attractive ones than that so I can't say what they are offering for less these days. But when I interview the ones that are clearly the better looking ones without much mental gymnastics and debate about it, the vast majority are not agreeing to one iota more than the dismal basic standard fare they would have agreed to for the most free spending, low demand Capitalist they jumped on during normal times.

That is from Playskool and Cactus Bar to Billboard and Baccara and several in between. Wish I could say otherwise. But it is not there yet for me.

Will they go along with 1,500 baht for that same dismal minimum level of service instead of 2,000 - 2,500 baht? I get a sense they probably would if I worked it longer, bought a couple more LDs. But I have so little interest in working longer for nothing special regardless of the discount I just move on to another bar. And neither the girls nor the mamasans seem the least bit interested in stopping me to find out why and if there is something they can do to change my mind.

This is aside from the couple of mamasans I know who will go the extra millimeter to bring me a suitable girl to justify my spending anything on them. And I can get new suitable ones without their help, of course. But not at any higher rate of success or for notably less baht than during normal times.

Same with better looking beer bar girls, FLs on the street, in Thermae, etc.

As always, YMMV.

Of course with your particular requirements, I am not surprised that you are finding things not so different. But for those of us that don't require BBFS + CIP, then the hunting is a bit better just due to the fact there are not so many dudes around.

[EihTooms]

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Covid has brought a refreshing return to the old days with prices down and performance up. I'd wager just about any Go-Go gal can be had for 1500. It is the gals competing for us. And that's the way it should be. For those of you who have been here less than a decade, this is what it was like.
Sadly as soon as the hordes return from East Asia, Singapore, and HK, it'll be back to high prices and gals doing far less than they are now.

Enjoy it while it lasts.

Can't say I am finding that to be true about go-go girls above a minimally doable 7 that I have encountered yet. And I hit a few go-go bars to buy LDs and interview girls 3-4 times per week now.

I'm not interviewing less attractive ones than that so I can't say what they are offering for less these days. But when I interview the ones that are clearly the better looking ones without much mental gymnastics and debate about it, the vast majority are not agreeing to one iota more than the dismal basic standard fare they would have agreed to for the most free spending, low demand Capitalist they jumped on during normal times.

That is from Playskool and Cactus Bar to Billboard and Baccara and several in between. Wish I could say otherwise. But it is not there yet for me.

Will they go along with 1,500 baht for that same dismal minimum level of service instead of 2,000 - 2,500 baht? I get a sense they probably would if I worked it longer, bought a couple more LDs. But I have so little interest in working longer for nothing special regardless of the discount I just move on to another bar. And neither the girls nor the mamasans seem the least bit interested in stopping me to find out why and if there is something they can do to change my mind.

This is aside from the couple of mamasans I know who will go the extra millimeter to bring me a suitable girl to justify my spending anything on them. And I can get new suitable ones without their help, of course. But not at any higher rate of success or for notably less baht than during normal times.

Same with better looking beer bar girls, FLs on the street, in Thermae, etc.

As always, YMMV.

[Banana Boi]

Thank you guys for all the political knowledge I'm gaining on this supposed SEX board. Your highly qualified expertise has convinced me that your political viewpoints are the correct ones! It will help me when I vote for Taylor Swift as the next President. Is Tina Fey running for President again? Hated when she lost last time.

I'm a huge fan of Ovechkin who plays for the Washington Capitalists!

Welcome to IPG guys!

[MarquisdeSade1]

a me me me attitude, it has also had a profound impact on our hobby.

I was shocked at the behavior of mongers during my first visit to FKK, there were Asians that were trying to "hoard" the hookers like they were gold bars.

So I asked my best friend that is Korean why they cannot share, they are hookers after all, you know "you go, I go, he goes".

They are hookers not your girlfriend.

I guess some people that are really "thirsty" don't understand that.

[Goatscrot]

I guarantee that you will not find one monger with lots of disposable income who will consider that there are others after him. In a capitalist world money rules and its each man for himself.

That's not really the case. Capitalism is failing because the modern corporate version has forgotten that cooperation is a cornerstone of any economic system that wishes to be sustainable. Capitalism is in it's end stages. Just like mercantilism before and feudalism before that it will be replaced by another system. What will that system be? I'm not sure we know at this point. But if we want to continue on this planet as a species it will have to take into account more cooperative systems and systems that are less exploitive and are less harsh on the environment. And just like late stage capitalism has led to the stripping of the planet's resources, and the degradation of the environment, and overpopulation by fostering a me me me attitude, it has also had a profound impact on our hobby.

[Turgid]

So says all Democrats, Leftists, Black Lives Matter, and ANTIFA! Capitalism is the bane of mankind. Socialism rules! Communism needs a second chance! All white Americans are racists! The Chinese Communist Party operatives are having a field day of smearing everything and everyone, because when smoke clears the PRC will rule the world!

The Democrats, BLM and Antifa are all capitalist. China is a capitalist country, it has 389 billionaires and God knows how many millionaires, second only to the US. Look at the videos most of the BLM protesters all over the US are white. I tell you this whole world is topsy turvy.

[Rodwint2]

Are you saying that all capitalists are assholes?

So says all Democrats, Leftists, Black Lives Matter, and ANTIFA! Capitalism is the bane of mankind. Socialism rules! Communism needs a second chance! All white Americans are racists! The Chinese Communist Party operatives are having a field day of smearing everything and everyone, because when smoke clears the PRC will rule the world!