Bangkok Reports

[Franciscass]

Do you go to gogo bars? Massage parlours? The owners / mami can be considered pimps as well.

I do Tom.

I guess it depends on one's understanding of what pimping is. You are correct about go go's and massage shops if you define it as the facilitation or provision of prostitution but the situation I was referring to and what I consider as pimping is more about where there is considerable exploitation and significant control over the girls. I am not saying this does not happen and there was evidence some of the girls at the now shuttered Nataree were in a form of debt bondage but by and large girls at go go's and other regular P4P venues are free to choose where they work and don't hand over part of their earnings to the owners.

[Banana Boi]

Do you go to gogo bars? Massage parlours? The owners / mami can be considered pimps as well.

Does anyone know how much the mamasan and bar make on a session that costed the customer 2000 barfine + 3000 to the girl ST? I've never been curious enough to ask but I'm sure someone here has done so.

The only city I know the split on is Jakarta where if you pay 360,000 rupiah for your 1 hour session this amount is split evenly between the bar, mamasan, and girl. So the girl makes 234 baht for a 1 hour session. That's less than 25% of a Soi 6 girl and the Indo girl is WAY better looking.

[Whoreman]

Thanks for the effort and these reviews. Yes, I also had a suspicion the 2-3 Offdek girls whose photos and profiles I responded to on Line (but never booked) were NOT the people who chatted with me on Line and that it was instead some clerk, pimp, manager or whoever was available to reply at the moment. I alluded to that possibility in my mini review, too.

Imo, their refusal to engage in even 1 minute of video chat "just to say Hello" is a giveaway that we're dealing with someone very different in age, weight, looks and possibly gender and total DNA than whoever is depicted in those photos with pat answers to every request as far away from what I need and want as it gets.

I would say with at least 90% of them that's who you're dealing with. I have seen a few profiles that don't follow the standard format. One invited potential customers to discuss their needs first, another suggested video chat before booking for the benefit of both parties and another one was in both Thai and English and claimed she spoke English well. These are a tiny minority though and the women are probably 30+.

[Whoreman]

I now avoid, anywhere I travel pimp controlled situations since experiencing them in Chiangmai some twenty five to thirty years ago before they were eventually shut down. The girls have no feelings, go numbed through their routine sometimes doped up, have multiple customers each day usually locals, the majority of whom show little or no respect for them and live in constant fear of displeasure from their pimp. Not sure if this fits the scene you posted about but it seems at best to be a rather sad affair.

The impression I got with the first two girls was that they're definitely very much in control of their own lives. With the third one, the fact she refused to open the door even though her agent had already made the booking suggests she's also in control.

The image I have of the agents is of some guy sitting at his computer for 12 hours with 20 line accounts open taking a commission for each booking.

[Member #4667]

I now avoid, anywhere I travel pimp controlled situations since experiencing them in Chiangmai some twenty five to thirty years ago before they were eventually shut down. The girls have no feelings, go numbed through their routine sometimes doped up, have multiple customers each day usually locals, the majority of whom show little or no respect for them and live in constant fear of displeasure from their pimp. Not sure if this fits the scene you posted about but it seems at best to be a rather sad affair.

Do you go to gogo bars? Massage parlours? The owners / mami can be considered pimps as well.

[Franciscass]

Tonight was my third and final time with Offdek and similar sideline websites.

I now avoid, anywhere I travel pimp controlled situations since experiencing them in Chiangmai some twenty five to thirty years ago before they were eventually shut down. The girls have no feelings, go numbed through their routine sometimes doped up, have multiple customers each day usually locals, the majority of whom show little or no respect for them and live in constant fear of displeasure from their pimp. Not sure if this fits the scene you posted about but it seems at best to be a rather sad affair.

[EihTooms]

Tonight was my third and final time with Offdek and similar sideline websites. I saw a nice looking 19-year old with good reviews so I added her Line and received a Tiktok video that confirmed she's my type. The subsequent problems were a result of the nature of the Offdek system. The website profiles are obviously created by agents, often using identical wording. They also control the Line accounts and have no idea what is acceptable to the girls in terms of customers or services provided. And then there's the problem of double booking which I've seen mentioned in the customer reviews. So tonight, mindful of the fact that the second girl I tried wasted a lot of time before letting me in her room and counted the time I was waiting downstairs as part of the 40 minutes, I arrived 10 minutes early. The agent told me to wait. 20 minutes later I saw some old Thai guy come down and go to the carpark so that was probably the previous customer and 5 minutes later I got the room number. I went up, knocked on the door several times and could clearly hear somebody moving in the room after every knock but she didn't open it. I'm sure she looked through the peephole, saw a white guy and refused to answer. More fucking about with the line account just made it clear that it was indeed an agent who had absolutely no idea what was going on. So what Offdek has to offer is cheap but average looking women with a risk of looks and service that don't match the profile or worse still faffing about in a hotel for 30 minutes and looking like a total arse in front of the staff. I'm sticking to massage parlours in future. They are slightly more expensive but at least they change the sheets between customers.

Thanks for the effort and these reviews. Yes, I also had a suspicion the 2-3 Offdek girls whose photos and profiles I responded to on Line (but never booked) were NOT the people who chatted with me on Line and that it was instead some clerk, pimp, manager or whoever was available to reply at the moment. I alluded to that possibility in my mini review, too.

Imo, their refusal to engage in even 1 minute of video chat "just to say Hello" is a giveaway that we're dealing with someone very different in age, weight, looks and possibly gender and total DNA than whoever is depicted in those photos with pat answers to every request as far away from what I need and want as it gets.

[Whoreman]

Tonight was my third and final time with Offdek and similar sideline websites. I saw a nice looking 19-year old with good reviews so I added her Line and received a Tiktok video that confirmed she's my type. The subsequent problems were a result of the nature of the Offdek system. The website profiles are obviously created by agents, often using identical wording. They also control the Line accounts and have no idea what is acceptable to the girls in terms of customers or services provided. And then there's the problem of double booking which I've seen mentioned in the customer reviews. So tonight, mindful of the fact that the second girl I tried wasted a lot of time before letting me in her room and counted the time I was waiting downstairs as part of the 40 minutes, I arrived 10 minutes early. The agent told me to wait. 20 minutes later I saw some old Thai guy come down and go to the carpark so that was probably the previous customer and 5 minutes later I got the room number. I went up, knocked on the door several times and could clearly hear somebody moving in the room after every knock but she didn't open it. I'm sure she looked through the peephole, saw a white guy and refused to answer. More fucking about with the line account just made it clear that it was indeed an agent who had absolutely no idea what was going on. So what Offdek has to offer is cheap but average looking women with a risk of looks and service that don't match the profile or worse still faffing about in a hotel for 30 minutes and looking like a total arse in front of the staff. I'm sticking to massage parlours in future. They are slightly more expensive but at least they change the sheets between customers.

[SexIsLove]

I've seen that in Thai porn before. It looks totally gross and I thought the guy had some kind of disease so it doesn't surprise me that some girls prohibit it.

A lot of Filipino guys do this as well with beads. At least that was the case in the 80's, have not hung around with that crowd since.

[Whoreman]

Not sure but I have a qualified guess, my Thai girlfriend showed me pictures of what Thai men do to their dicks to give the girl more pleasure.

They insert pearls inside the skin on the shaft of their dicks, like bumps some dildos have.

Sure looked ting tong!

I've seen that in Thai porn before. It looks totally gross and I thought the guy had some kind of disease so it doesn't surprise me that some girls prohibit it.

[Whoreman]

I've used offdek. Went to a hotel girl was said to be 22 when I got there she was closer to 32 and clearly they used apps to make her look way better. I still went with it as it was only 1200 and I was there already. Shit experience overall.

Most girls are fine with farang. The problem is getting girls to go BB is very difficult. You're usually talking to pimps and not one has agreed to BB even if I offered a tip. You would have to go to the room and try to get the girl in person to BB. Much better going to the plaza seeing the girl in person and asking no condom right there and not dealing with all the BS.

Some of the photos are so obviously touched up the face looks more 2 D than 3 D. I wouldn't use these websites if you don't have a high level of confidence in your ability to identify these.

The second of these website girls I tried claimed to be 24 and looked exactly that. In fact, she looked better than in her photos and video. She turned out to be a nasty little harlot, in both a good and bad sense. She fucked around between me arriving at the hotel and her letting me into the room so I didn't get my full 40 minutes, washed me in the shower like I was an object rather than a human, and wasted time brushing her teeth but then refused to kiss me even though that was a service advertised in her profile. On the positive side though she licked my body and "eggs" and sucked my dick with great enthusiasm, and was very skilful at knowing what position I wanted her in (play all the poses) and getting into that position like the obedient little fucktoy she is. In particular, unlike most Thai girls who hunch their backs during doggy, she arched her back perfectly with her arms stretched forward, her head right down and her arse right up while moaning wildy.

But I would say for most guys who post here, the risk of ending up with a girl whose looks and service are far below expectations is too high and you would be better off sticking to Nana.

[Franciscass]

Well Google translate often comes up with complete nonsense or appearing to mean the exact opposite of the actual meaning but the most common prohibitions are customers on drugs, BBFS, sex toys, anal and sadism.

Some more examples of cute translation.

Can Lick eggs, Lick Jimi. Can break your mouth. Can be completed according to the torso or chest.

Face crack +300 baht crack in the mouth +300. Can take out the nipple, can massage it. Feeling thin frame. Work as you like.

You can play all the poses, not frustrating.

Burning, Burning well Honey no matter Lower fit-nod, easy to install Do not get size more than 56 "(for fear of looseness 555).

Secretion of elixir into the mouth, add 400.

Secretion Amrit water on my face, add 400.

Sex toy add 300 (item pair Sky).

Cosplay 300 (awaiting repair sewing).

Pearl / 500-1000 do not add (on this, let me talk to Mike. Single brothers and sisters, others will be jealous).

1200 baht / 1 water / 40 minutes.

1400 baht / 1 water / 60 minutes.

(this price includes room and bags).

[Tummen]

Any idea what this means, seems to pop up a lot of profiles.

"Do not accept the elder who do mana. Implant pearl injection. Ask for permission.

Not sure but I have a qualified guess, my Thai girlfriend showed me pictures of what Thai men do to their dicks to give the girl more pleasure.

They insert pearls inside the skin on the shaft of their dicks, like bumps some dildos have.

Sure looked ting tong!

[GinAndTonic555]

I've used offdek. Went to a hotel girl was said to be 22 when I got there she was closer to 32 and clearly they used apps to make her look way better. I still went with it as it was only 1200 and I was there already. Shit experience overall.

Most girls are fine with farang. The problem is getting girls to go BB is very difficult. You're usually talking to pimps and not one has agreed to BB even if I offered a tip. You would have to go to the room and try to get the girl in person to BB. Much better going to the plaza seeing the girl in person and asking no condom right there and not dealing with all the BS.

[Whoreman]

Any idea what this means, seems to pop up a lot of profiles.

"Do not accept the elder who do mana. Implant pearl injection. Ask for permission.

Well Google translate often comes up with complete nonsense or appearing to mean the exact opposite of the actual meaning but the most common prohibitions are customers on drugs, BBFS, sex toys, anal and sadism.