Bangkok Reports

[Nounce]

Thanks for the heads up about that issue with Tinder. But I am sure I have discussed sex acts for money fairly blatantly a few times on Tinder before moving the discussion to Line without being banned. Have you tried to just restart a new subscription package through your current phone?

I remember being unable to open an account on one of the other regular dating site apps, ThaiCupid, and kept getting a message that they were "reviewing" my application due to something they were concerned about. I never found out what that concern was all about. But when I applied for an annual auto-renew package, something I wanted to do anyway, all was forgiven and they activated my account without a problem. Maybe starting a Tinder Gold subscription will loosen their grip on those rules of behavior or whatever.

It probably is one or more girls reported the OP to Tinder that caused the problem.

[MrKim]

I would like to summarise my recent experience mongering in Bangkok during the virus outbreak. I am of East Asian descent, but was born and raised in a North American country. For privacy reasons I will not disclose my specific ethnicity. But when I come to Thailand, girls tend to guess I am Korean, Chinese, Hong Konger, or Singaporean. Given I often pass for Chinese, I was unsure what sort of treatment I would get.

I stayed for 2 weeks during late Jan / early Feb and had girls from a variety of sources, including gogos (Nana), escorts (BGE and Smooci), BJ salons, nurus, and freelancers from various apps. I have written several reports in their respective sections on the Thailand forum.

To my relief, girls weren't really fazed by me at all. My fluent English and Western personality / mannerisms certainly helped, and I was never turned down by providers. I got a lot of jokes from the girls, who would ask me if I'm from Wuhan and laugh, but I was prepared for this. The mamasans in the gogos would point at me and scream "Wuhan!" jokingly which was kind of annoying, but it was all in good fun. For the escorts who came to my room, the first thing I did was show them my passport and say "I'm not from China, don't worry" to which they responded with laughter. I would also make them wash their hands thoroughly first thing as well as gargle with Listerine, which made them realize I am serious about cleanliness. But overall, I was never treated with suspicion or paranoia, nor was refused service during my time here. I did however receive some judgey stares from a white couple at a a restaurant when I sat down next to them.

I did see several venues restrict customers from China though:

- The Pimp: if you have traveled to China in the last 30 days, you are not allowed entry. They will inspect every page in your passport to check the entry / exit stamps.

- Doki Doki: sign posted at front desk that says they cannot serve customers who have traveled to China in the last 30 days, but they did not check my passport when I went.

Overall, the Thais are still very welcoming of Chinese despite rising cases here (33 as of today). Most people are wearing masks in public. Thailand remains one of the few countries in Asia who have not imposed travel restrictions on travelers from China, and many Chinese are desperate to escape the bleak situation are coming to Thailand in droves, even after the CNY holiday.

Happy mongering and stay safe everyone!

[Christian G]

I was in BKK in mid January and had fantastic success with Tinder. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. Really beautiful girls ranging from no-pros to hard core pros. Lots of sweet freelancers, IMHO.

However, I did not realize that Tinder had rules (it was my first time using the app and I got started on a whim). So the girls and I had very frank discussions about price, BBBJ, anal, etc. The day after I left BKK, I decided to check my Tinder to be certain I had remembered to turn it off (no sense in having my photo online when I am back in the USA) and discovered that they had closed my account. I feel like a fool, of course, as almost every girl I met was ultimately moved to Line where such rules do not exist.

Forest.

I been in Angeles City few months ago with a friend, he used Tinder alot and many pinay wanted to move the conversation to whatsapp ASAP for talking about ST-LT money and service, they didn't want to talk about it on tinder.

[EihTooms]

I was in BKK in mid January and had fantastic success with Tinder. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. Really beautiful girls ranging from no-pros to hard core pros. Lots of sweet freelancers, IMHO.

However, I did not realize that Tinder had rules (it was my first time using the app and I got started on a whim). So the girls and I had very frank discussions about price, BBBJ, anal, etc. The day after I left BKK, I decided to check my Tinder to be certain I had remembered to turn it off (no sense in having my photo online when I am back in the USA) and discovered that they had closed my account. I feel like a fool, of course, as almost every girl I met was ultimately moved to Line where such rules do not exist.

My question for you Tinder aficionados is this: do I need to buy a second phone to set up a Tinder account when I return to BKK next? Or is there some type of App that I can use so Tinder thinks I have a new phone number when I sign up again? If there is an App, can someone direct me to the website so I can purchase it?

Khob Khun Krup.

Forest.

Thanks for the heads up about that issue with Tinder. But I am sure I have discussed sex acts for money fairly blatantly a few times on Tinder before moving the discussion to Line without being banned. Have you tried to just restart a new subscription package through your current phone?

I remember being unable to open an account on one of the other regular dating site apps, ThaiCupid, and kept getting a message that they were "reviewing" my application due to something they were concerned about. I never found out what that concern was all about. But when I applied for an annual auto-renew package, something I wanted to do anyway, all was forgiven and they activated my account without a problem. Maybe starting a Tinder Gold subscription will loosen their grip on those rules of behavior or whatever.

[Syzygies]

I only saw it as, "This girl has no customer. Why don't you buy her a drink?"

That is spot on, the usual motivation, mamasan is not there for the customer (that much), unless you are very regular and have made it worth her while.

[Diglerni]

I was in BKK in mid January and had fantastic success with Tinder. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. Really beautiful girls ranging from no-pros to hard core pros. Lots of sweet freelancers, IMHO.

However, I did not realize that Tinder had rules (it was my first time using the app and I got started on a whim). So the girls and I had very frank discussions about price, BBBJ, anal, etc. The day after I left BKK, I decided to check my Tinder to be certain I had remembered to turn it off (no sense in having my photo online when I am back in the USA) and discovered that they had closed my account. I feel like a fool, of course, as almost every girl I met was ultimately moved to Line where such rules do not exist.

My question for you Tinder aficionados is this: do I need to buy a second phone to set up a Tinder account when I return to BKK next? Or is there some type of App that I can use so Tinder thinks I have a new phone number when I sign up again? If there is an App, can someone direct me to the website so I can purchase it?

Khob Khun Krup.

Forest.

You can sign up with tinder with an email or Facebook. So just create a fake account or a mongering email. Sign up and then just delete it after. Tinder is owned by the match group and if they ban your email or Facebook you can't use it again. They may also flag your name, so use a fake name next time you sign up.

[Banana Boi]

The only time a mamasan is of any use to me is when she kicks guys out of the seat I want because she knows I will spend more than the guys currently occupying the seat. So if you get booted from a prime gogo bar seat in Pattaya just scream out "WTF BB".

[Syzygies]

I don't remember a time when a mamasan ever recommended a girl to me. At least not one I thought was interesting or good looking enough to actually barfine and give a try. Just hard cases who probably need a customer, any customer, very badly. Oh, I have had mamasans walk over to me in a bar with a good looking girl, both smiling, and ask if the girl can sit with me. Maybe that was a recommendation and I did not see it that way. I only saw it as, "This girl has no customer. Why don't you buy her a drink?"

In this case, the mamasan only said to the girl that I had already called down and was sitting next to me after ordering a Ladydrink, "Take care of him." But I suspect she says that to every girl in front of every customer all the time. Besides, I don't even think the girl spoke English well enough to fully understand what the mamasan said. The mamasan said it in English for me to hear and understand, not the girl.

No mamasan has ever asked me what I want from a girl. I would honestly tell her if one ever asked me. LOL. But since none has ever been curious or interested enough to even ask me if there is anything special or different that I require that might convince me to part with upwards of 3000-4000 baht at this time on this night with any girl in their bar, my assumption is the mamasan thinks I am only interested in paying for basic, standard fare of "lick around the edges, if that, slip on a condom and proceed." I have no sense that a mamasan knows what worked so well for me behind closed doors with a previous girl in her bar to now be selecting other girls for me on that basis. So there is zero advantage to me in taking an otherwise unseen girl a mamasan brings over to me at random.

I agree that mamasans in Go go bars have quite limited use. Obviously to translate if there is a language barrier. Speaking Thai, I don't have a need. Mamasan is largely a nuisance. If you buy her a drink she will keep pestering you from then on.

Can ask mamasan if your particular favourite girl has been working lately or in attendance. I never take the mamasans recommendation, since they have not fucked the girl. The reverse is different though. There have been gogos where I am very well known to certain reliable staff, who have been tipped for good information. For example if I asked serving staff girl Yao at Suzie Wong (in the past), what she thought about a particular girl, if she warned me off the girl (indicating not likely good for me), I would take notice. Bar girls can be very nice or can be duds or problematic. The bar staff are likely to know which girls usually leave good customers unhappy, and which girls can really be fun.

[Member #4643]

I was in BKK in mid January and had fantastic success with Tinder. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. Really beautiful girls ranging from no-pros to hard core pros. Lots of sweet freelancers, IMHO.

However, I did not realize that Tinder had rules (it was my first time using the app and I got started on a whim). So the girls and I had very frank discussions about price, BBBJ, anal, etc. The day after I left BKK, I decided to check my Tinder to be certain I had remembered to turn it off (no sense in having my photo online when I am back in the USA) and discovered that they had closed my account. I feel like a fool, of course, as almost every girl I met was ultimately moved to Line where such rules do not exist.

My question for you Tinder aficionados is this: do I need to buy a second phone to set up a Tinder account when I return to BKK next? Or is there some type of App that I can use so Tinder thinks I have a new phone number when I sign up again? If there is an App, can someone direct me to the website so I can purchase it?

Khob Khun Krup.

Forest.

[EihTooms]

Yeah I agree if mamasan found me a great girl, I would be happy to give her tip or buy her drink next time. Usually I find a girl in gogo pretty quickly, usually in 3-4 minutes of me sitting there, so maybe no mamasan got the chance to recommend any girl to me.

I don't remember a time when a mamasan ever recommended a girl to me. At least not one I thought was interesting or good looking enough to actually barfine and give a try. Just hard cases who probably need a customer, any customer, very badly. Oh, I have had mamasans walk over to me in a bar with a good looking girl, both smiling, and ask if the girl can sit with me. Maybe that was a recommendation and I did not see it that way. I only saw it as, "This girl has no customer. Why don't you buy her a drink?"

In this case, the mamasan only said to the girl that I had already called down and was sitting next to me after ordering a Ladydrink, "Take care of him." But I suspect she says that to every girl in front of every customer all the time. Besides, I don't even think the girl spoke English well enough to fully understand what the mamasan said. The mamasan said it in English for me to hear and understand, not the girl.

No mamasan has ever asked me what I want from a girl. I would honestly tell her if one ever asked me. LOL. But since none has ever been curious or interested enough to even ask me if there is anything special or different that I require that might convince me to part with upwards of 3000-4000 baht at this time on this night with any girl in their bar, my assumption is the mamasan thinks I am only interested in paying for basic, standard fare of "lick around the edges, if that, slip on a condom and proceed." I have no sense that a mamasan knows what worked so well for me behind closed doors with a previous girl in her bar to now be selecting other girls for me on that basis. So there is zero advantage to me in taking an otherwise unseen girl a mamasan brings over to me at random.

[Gargano19]

My objection to it in this case was I had not yet found out if the girl she was encouraging to "take care of him" either by routine, for laughs or as a sincere message to the girl was a scammer or not. Why would I reward a mamasan for letting me sit there with a known scammer or trouble girl? Oh, yeah, that has happened to me before. Therefore, I might very well hand that same mamasan a tip or buy her a drink the next time I go in that bar and take that same girl to confirm to her and to any other girls witnessing it that whatever it was my girl agreed to in the bar and did for me in the room was very good for me, for her and for the mamasan.

Yeah I agree if mamasan found me a great girl, I would be happy to give her tip or buy her drink next time. Usually I find a girl in gogo pretty quickly, usually in 3-4 minutes of me sitting there, so maybe no mamasan got the chance to recommend any girl to me.

[Goatscrot]

In circumstances where I want a good looking FL girl who is asking for money at the top end or even above the top end of the price range in her venue / location; I will offer her a price beneath her asking price, then add " and I will give you good tip if you make me happy. ".

For example, let's say I am in Spasso or Brix in Singapore or CJ;s in Jakarta on a Friday night (any high end 5 star hotel FL pick up bar will be about the same) and a very attractive girl offers her service to me for 5000 baht, 500 Sin Dollars, or 2,000,000rp respectively, which is near the top end of Spasso, Brix, CJ's FL pricing. I might say to her, "I will give you 4,000 baht,. 300 Sin Dollar, or 1,500,000 rp and a very good tip if you make me happy. To which the girl always asks, "how much tip you give me?" And I will repeat, "a very good tip. You make me happy. I make you happy. " And that usually seals the deal with minimal negotiation, which is my preference, and with a tip ,at my discretion depending on her service. But I never cheat them and I must say that I very seldom have a bad session when the arrangement is agreed to on those terms. So specifically, I get the hot girl I desire within the price range that I view as acceptable and she winds up with her full asking price composed of a reasonable service fee and a generous tip, but only if she has delivered on the implied level of service and made me happy.

I have used this approach many times but solely in FL pick up bars in situations described above. I have never used this approach on Go Go girls. Honestly, I don't think it is needed. Go Go girls almost never quote above their price range and if one did I would take it as a huge Tell and pass on the girl unless she immediately lowered her offer. With Go Go girls I have my MO and that includes buying them a drink or two, getting friendly in the bar, and sizing them up. If a girl passes the audition it usually means we are going to have a good time in the loom and I don't need to provide her with any more incentive to perform other than the agreed upon fee and me! Yeah, 555, Me, because I am just what an honest, good looking, little Go Go girl is looking for ie a friendly, not too unsightly, courteous, ha ha ha, Farang with a decent size wallet, reasonable sexual abilities, and a lot of time on his hands in BKK or wherever we just met. And I do give reasonable tips to girls if I like them and they were nice and gave me what I wanted, and that is a good time. I know I don't have to, but I usually do anyway if the service was good. My point here is that the most rewarding thing I can do for a NEW Go Go girl I have not been with before or any new working girl, for that matter, is to see her again. Even now, at this late date, little Thai Go Go girls still appreciate friendly, steady customers and potential repeat customers do get benefits. Part of the initial conversation in the audition is always the part where the girls ask, "how long you stay in BKK (or wherever)." and when I tell them I am here for 2 months or 6 weeks or whatever time I have (I NEVER LIE), I usually see a discreet smile light up their charming faces. That is one of the reasons I think ex-pats have an amazing advantage over guys like me and can get better deals with the same girls. But as i have said before, everyone's mileage may vary.

Good strategy. If she performs she gets her initial asking price and if she doesn't, she doesn't.

[Aster14]

Recently completed my trip, spent 5 days in BKK before flying out.

Day 1:

Arrived late, checked into Pullman Grande. Fired up Wechat Badoo and Tinder for some FLs and semi pros for tomorrow. Set up a LT with a girl I met on Wechat from past trips, nice smart girl with an amazing body, went out to dinner before a full night of fucking, total GFE, 10 k damage. Really worth it IMO to take the time and build some rapport with these girls, especially if you find someone you like.

Day 2:

Woke up for 2 more rounds before saying goodbye to the girl from last night. Got breakfast and checked out past field reports. Decided to check out Mitu (I had confused Doki Doki and Mitu earlier in the trip, I had been to Mitu on a previous trip before). Arrived a bit early in the afternoon and chose Haduki for 90 min. Really small girl with brown skin, A cups, but a nice and toned body and tight pussy. Standard nuru procedure with first round on the mattress and second on the bed. Got a nice massage in between. 5 k damage. More expensive than Doki Doki but a more worthwhile experience.

Headed back to hotel, relaxed a bit and hit up Smooci. Booked Pearry for 2 hours. She arrived late but made up for it with an excellent session. Small spinner with great white skin, nice bolt ONS and a cute ass. Limited English and a bit shy but warmed up after things got started. BBBJ, LFK, very tight and took a pounding without complaint, cuddled for a bit before going for a second round. Gave her a tip for a total damage of 4 k.

Got dinner and checked out Cowboy around 10 pm. Avoided the rip off joints as recommended by some of the seniors and sat in Bacarra for a bit, Great talent but I was much too tired as I had cum 6 times on the day, decided to note down a few numbers before heading back to the hotel early.

Day 3:

Woke up, got breakfast (which was mediocre at best), and contacted Bangkok Golden for a session with Bell later in the day. Walked over to Daisy Dream at around 2 pm and was presented with a line up of 10 girls. Chose a cute short haired girl in a red dress and be cups for 90 minutes, but did not remember her name as the session was pretty forgettable. She gave a great massage but had a bit of baby fat and was pretty loose. The room was nice with a fairly big jacuzzi, but that left limited room for the air mattress. CBJ, with first round on the mattress and second round on the bed. Cleaned up in the Jacuzzi and then the shower. 4.5 k damage. The talent was OK so it's likely you'll get a better service with a different girl.

Went back to the hotel and cleaned up. Bell arrived on time. Great body, skin, see cups and a cute ass. Her English is pretty good and can hold a conversation well, but does not do kissing. She gave a great BBBJ before moving onto multiple positions, popped in missionary and cuddled for a bit before the second round. I struggled to pop but she didn't give up and finished me with her mouth. A very good session but a bit pricey at 6 k for 2 hours, although very convenient.

Was going to hit up Bacarra again for some nighttime fun but found a hottie named Poppy on Tinder who was down to meet. She's from BKK but looked more Korean. Tall for an Asian with a great body, fake the cups and a bubble butt, looked like a kpop model. Told me she just started in this line of work and it shows, but took directions well and was very responsive. Went several rounds before both of us were spent after 4 hours. I sent her on her way with 6 k and she promised to see me again before I left. Cancelled by Bacarra plans as I was again exhausted.

Day 4:

Woke up very late, missed breakfast. Felt a bit sore from the night before so I went and got a legit massage from across the street at Health Land Asoke, which I would very much recommend. Partook in some normal tourist activities in the afternoon before returning to the hotel. Booked Nana from Smooci for another excellent 2 hour session. The site has her English as basic but her English is closer to conversational level. Very smart and outgoing. She doesn't have as great of a body as the other girls I've seen but is very enthusiastic. Excellent BBBJ with multiple positions before popping in doggy, cuddled and exchanged life stories before going for a second round and popping in mish. Total damage of 4 k again including tip. She'd be great to book for LT and I would highly recommend her for those of you looking for more than just a quick fuck.

Had dinner and checked out Bacarra. Place was packed as it was the day before the Magha Puja, and I was told the place would close down at midnight. Saw a thicker girl named Moonam which I really liked. She had a body shape closer to a Latina with a lot of tattoos. Bought her a drink and we hit it off very well. Took her out for ST and had a very hot fuck back in the hotel, BBBJ, DFK, popped in mish but went for a second round after she saw I was still hard after cleaning up. Got her Line and will plan on seeing her again on my next trip if she's still around.

Day 5:

Since I was told most places were going to be closed today, I hit up Poppy and she took me to see a few of the temples through out the day, felt like a real date. Took her shopping in T21 before heading back to the hotel at around 5 pm. Had a flight to catch early next morning at 6 so we spent the rest of the night in the room fucking. Total damage including shopping and room service came out to around 18 k. Pricey but a very worthwhile experience imo, considering the usual prices I pay in the US, and the reports on how expensive BKK has gotten.

Overall spent 7 days in BKK and 3 days in Pattaya on this trip. Tried a bit of everything but had the best time with FLs from different apps. I'd rank Smooci and escort agencies second, gogo girls third, and massage places 4th. I thought that my main go to this trip would be gogos but had more success building rapport with the girls I found in gogos and taking them out later. The massage places I went to were all fairly underwhelming with the exception of Mitu, which was also the most expensive option.

[EihTooms]

This is getting so common and it's annoying. Why would I buy mamasan a drink? Like you I've never shown any interest in buying a drink for mamasan, but still annoying. Bar is already making good money with overpriced drinks, lady drinks, hefty bar-fines and they still want to be greedy. It will only push away the expats and regulars.

My objection to it in this case was I had not yet found out if the girl she was encouraging to "take care of him" either by routine, for laughs or as a sincere message to the girl was a scammer or not. Why would I reward a mamasan for letting me sit there with a known scammer or trouble girl? Oh, yeah, that has happened to me before. Therefore, I might very well hand that same mamasan a tip or buy her a drink the next time I go in that bar and take that same girl to confirm to her and to any other girls witnessing it that whatever it was my girl agreed to in the bar and did for me in the room was very good for me, for her and for the mamasan.

Wow this was too simple, and little scary. Is it this common for girls of gogo to do unprotected sex?

I can only say it happens about 60-70% of the time FOR ME in Bangkok go-go bars if I use this approach or some verbal variation of it. It works much less so FOR ME in places like massage shops, Beer Garden Soi 7 and virtually anywhere in Pattaya. But no other approach works particularly well for me in those places either. LOL. Not to mention I look around in those places and wonder why I would even bother with girls generally so much less attractive than the girls I can get in Bangkok go-go bars anyway.

[Gargano19]

When her Ladydrink arrives the mamasan comes over again and hits me up for a drink. I smile and say no, maybe later and gesture to the girl cuddling next to me. Did I break a rule here? I couldn't care less. She smiles, understands and tells the girl to "take care of him."

This is getting so common and it's annoying. Why would I buy mamasan a drink? Like you I've never shown any interest in buying a drink for mamasan, but still annoying. Bar is already making good money with overpriced drinks, lady drinks, hefty bar-fines and they still want to be greedy. It will only push away the expats and regulars.

"We boom boom no condom, 2,500 baht".

Yes, ok.

Wow this was too simple, and little scary. Is it this common for girls of gogo to do unprotected sex?