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  1. #48952
    Quote Originally Posted by DannyDuck  [View Original Post]
    So a poster here outed a Working Girl? Should be Banned. LOL.

    Who does that? Come on Man.
    Not sure what that means exactly. But I would suggest everyone be wary of posts on the internet like, "I'm looking for a girl named..", "I met this girl once a while back (photo included) but lost her contact number. Anyone know her?", "Sounds great, can you give me her contact info and where she's working now? Did she do "xyz" for you?" and so on when you're dealing with this hobby.

    I would say it is not the same concern for a girl whose photo and id is already out there on an escort site or massage shop site. Unless the report is about her providing something that is way off the listed service menu items on her profile perhaps.

    Think it matters if the poster has been around a while and even appears to be a big proponent of your personal service requirements? Think again. My guy had been on those sites for months under several different identities on at least 3 different similar message boards at the time searching for and encouraging a report on his lady he could slam her about.

    Based on the timeline and nature of my report he got access to her phone, connected the dots on her Line account (which she had me on), had my Line ID, my Line profile photo, knew approximately where I lived from a few of our Line chat comments and we were off to the races.

    The internet is a big place with a lot of kooks in it. For every exceptionally determined and ill-intentioned dude like that one was it isn't hard to imagine 10 others just looking to create hassle and mischief for a specifically identified and located lady in question. This hobby is not like making model airplanes and collecting stamps.

  2. #48951
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Yes I only know so much after a single 12 hour layover in Bangkok. I will learn greatly from your future posts and look forward to your photos of these hot girls my limited experience hasn't shown me. Thank you for your anticipated contributions.



    I would add concentrate on posts prior to February, 2020. Actual reviews since after Feb 2020 reviews are few and far between due to COVID. You may want to also concentrate on the guys who actually live in Thailand like Mr. E, LBM, ET, Goats, MP, Syzygies, and myself.
    I'm one of the few guys actually posting reviews but apparently I'm "argumentative" so I won't bother making contributions from now on.

  3. #48950
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Good luck to you on that, Franciscass. I have gotten graphic and repeated death threats after identifying a girl I reported on who worked in a BJ Bar! And the dude confronted his "wife" about it, took her to court, got custody of their kid, she quit the business on the spot, never returned, god knows what he put her through and I got dagger looks from every girl in the Bangkok BJ Bar network for at least a year for being the nice poster who helped a fellow poster find a girl with a particular skill set and to send another customer her way.

    It wasn't even about BBFS+CIP. Thank god. The girl would probably have been seriously harmed physically.

    It was not on this site but it was on more than just one site. The dude stalked me from site to site so I have no doubt he gave her hell about it. No joke. No exaggeration.
    Sorry you went through that. Sounds scary.

  4. #48949
    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    Women don't range from 1-10, they go from 0-4.
    Or simplify it further:

    There are girls you would f**k; and.

    Girls you would f**k and be seen with.

  5. #48948
    So a poster here outed a Working Girl? Should be Banned. LOL.

    Who does that? Come on Man.

  6. #48947
    Quote Originally Posted by Franciscass  [View Original Post]
    Lots of good stuff in your post ET but you really need to relax and not get so animated about so called Real Sex / BBFS-CIP.

    As to this roving band of missionary zealots trawling the net to find pics or presumably with nothing better to do than frequenting go go's, bars and other P4P venues confronting girls willing to go BB CIP and then lecturing scolding counseling "reeducating" hassling them for doing so. Come on ET you are better than promoting this paranoid nonsense. In point of fact I would suggest that if there is any persuading or cajoling going on it is more likely coming from the punter wanting to change girls who don't do Real Sex / BBFS-CIP by for example offering them more money to do so or even worse the idiot who whips off the condom without the girl's permission or her knowledge.
    Good luck to you on that, Franciscass. I have gotten graphic and repeated death threats after identifying a girl I reported on who worked in a BJ Bar! And the dude confronted his "wife" about it, took her to court, got custody of their kid, she quit the business on the spot, never returned, god knows what he put her through and I got dagger looks from every girl in the Bangkok BJ Bar network for at least a year for being the nice poster who helped a fellow poster find a girl with a particular skill set and to send another customer her way.

    It wasn't even about BBFS+CIP. Thank god. The girl would probably have been seriously harmed physically.

    It was not on this site but it was on more than just one site. The dude stalked me from site to site so I have no doubt he gave her hell about it. No joke. No exaggeration.

  7. #48946
    Quote Originally Posted by Pwrmnd  [View Original Post]
    Most human attributes are roughly normally distributed (bell-shaped). Assuming the mean is below 8, you'd expect a lot more 8's than 9's and a lot more 9's than 10's. And there would be more 5's then 4's, etc. On the way down. If you'd ask me, I'd have said that something like 2% of 20-year-olds are 10's, 5% are 9's, 15% are 8's, 25% are 7's, 25% are 6's, 15% are 5's, etc.

    Research suggests that there is more agreement about attractiveness than disagreement. One study found a correlation of. 9 between an individual man's ranking and that of the group of men as whole, which is remarkably high. But don't tell that to the "4" because it will make her feel bad. Tell them "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". There is some room for personal taste, of course (some like tall, but I prefer short). But much of the differences in ratings are perhaps just because people use the scale differently. For example, you and your buddy have largely similar rankings, but you call the 90th percentile a 7. 5 and he calls it a 10. The rankings show a higher correlation.

    Interestingly, women seem to not agree nearly so much about the attractiveness of men. Also, people's ratings of their own attractiveness are almost uncorrelated with what the opposite sex things. This is especially true for men. Men are so clueless.
    Women don't range from 1-10, they go from 0-4 .

    A 0 is a woman you wouldn't f**k.

    A 1 is a woman that you would f**k.

    A 2 is a woman that you'd go down on and then f**k.

    A 3 is a woman you'd f**k then go down on.

    A 4 is a woman you'd go down on after your buddy f**ked her.

    Thus ended the lesson.

  8. #48945
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    And, two, there is no way I would subject a great Real Sex/BBFS-CIP provider to the possibility of being confronted, lectured, scolded, counseled, "re-educated" or in any other way hassled and talked out of continuing to provide that for me by the many anti Real Sex/BBFS-CIP zealots on the net.
    Lots of good stuff in your post ET but you really need to relax and not get so animated about so called Real Sex / BBFS-CIP.

    As to this roving band of missionary zealots trawling the net to find pics or presumably with nothing better to do than frequenting go go's, bars and other P4P venues confronting girls willing to go BB CIP and then lecturing scolding counseling "reeducating" hassling them for doing so. Come on ET you are better than promoting this paranoid nonsense. In point of fact I would suggest that if there is any persuading or cajoling going on it is more likely coming from the punter wanting to change girls who don't do Real Sex / BBFS-CIP by for example offering them more money to do so or even worse the idiot who whips off the condom without the girl's permission or her knowledge.

  9. #48944
    Quote Originally Posted by *****man  [View Original Post]
    If you really think Pattaya and Nana hookers are the cream of the crop in Thailand it just shows how limited your experience is.
    Yes I only know so much after a single 12 hour layover in Bangkok. I will learn greatly from your future posts and look forward to your photos of these hot girls my limited experience hasn't shown me. Thank you for your anticipated contributions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bunky  [View Original Post]
    You really need to go back 100 pages in all of the Thailand forums and read the posts. This will fill in the details.
    I would add concentrate on posts prior to February, 2020. Actual reviews since after Feb 2020 reviews are few and far between due to COVID. You may want to also concentrate on the guys who actually live in Thailand like Mr. E, LBM, ET, Goats, MP, Syzygies, and myself.

  10. #48943
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    Years ago a group of my buddies discussed this. One thought was that 10% of girls fall into each of the 10 categories. So, 10% were 9's. The other thought was the average girl is a 5 and so are all the girls within 1 standard deviation. One standard deviation above are 6's, two standard deviations above are 7's. By the time you get to a 9, very few exist in the world.

    Even with the concept of 10% in each group, men often dont agree who is a 6 and who is an 8. It's silly to differentiate between a 7 and a 7. 5.

    A couple years ago Syzygies mentioned a celebrity who he thought was a hottie so I looked her up online. Her pictures did nothing for me, I would have rated her a 6. And so it goes.
    Most human attributes are roughly normally distributed (bell-shaped). Assuming the mean is below 8, you'd expect a lot more 8's than 9's and a lot more 9's than 10's. And there would be more 5's then 4's, etc. On the way down. If you'd ask me, I'd have said that something like 2% of 20-year-olds are 10's, 5% are 9's, 15% are 8's, 25% are 7's, 25% are 6's, 15% are 5's, etc.

    Research suggests that there is more agreement about attractiveness than disagreement. One study found a correlation of. 9 between an individual man's ranking and that of the group of men as whole, which is remarkably high. But don't tell that to the "4" because it will make her feel bad. Tell them "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". There is some room for personal taste, of course (some like tall, but I prefer short). But much of the differences in ratings are perhaps just because people use the scale differently. For example, you and your buddy have largely similar rankings, but you call the 90th percentile a 7. 5 and he calls it a 10. The rankings show a higher correlation.

    Interestingly, women seem to not agree nearly so much about the attractiveness of men. Also, people's ratings of their own attractiveness are almost uncorrelated with what the opposite sex things. This is especially true for men. Men are so clueless.

  11. #48942
    Quote Originally Posted by TomMAffolter  [View Original Post]
    I'm with the standard deviation view as this would be more scientific than the flat 10% allocation. But this whole subjective allocation of points based system is better than word based description, especially if pics are included, thus for example if you were to post a pic of a 7, then in future when you say you met a 8, I would have a in the ballpark idea of how attractive she was. This is more helpful than posts which say I met a 19 yr old hottie / cutie etc etc, which has zero qualitative value for an objective audience.
    Many posters are interested in sharing their experiences in order to cite or track a trend one way or another in a particular venue or option but are not keen on convincing everyone on the internet to seek out a favorite provider of theirs and keep her booked up and busy for the next several weeks. I think that is at least partially the reason posters don't post pics of their best or favorite girls.

    I for one would never post a clear pic of a girl I was having great sex with in this hobby or specifically identify her by name, location or badge number for a couple of reasons. One, if she is really hot and provides me with no hassle Real Sex/BBFS+CIP at a reasonable price that is a rare enough find in Thai P4P and no way am I going to promote her on the internet only to help keep her so busy I can't get a next booking in edgewise. Lol.

    And, two, there is no way I would subject a great Real Sex/BBFS-CIP provider to the possibility of being confronted, lectured, scolded, counseled, "re-educated" or in any other way hassled and talked out of continuing to provide that for me by the many anti Real Sex/BBFS-CIP zealots on the net.

    And then there is the issue of protecting a girl's privacy and not giving a boyfiend, sponsor or husband who might find his way on this site not really by chance an excuse to beat the crap out of her or cut off her support. Unless she is already posting her pics on an escort site or something like that. Even then her significant other might not be fine and dandy with discovering she is providing BBFS+CIP with customers every now and then.

    Imo mentioning a general area a girl can usually be found, the bar or club and, yes, even whether she is more cute or sexy, above average looking or not, much better than average looking or not, slim vs chubby, tallish vs short, light skin vs dark, etc is still making an effort to hook up readers and the entire internet with a girl in question if someone is really interested in having sex with the exact same girl out of hundreds out there in the exact same way as me or others here.

  12. #48941
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    Years ago a group of my buddies discussed this. One thought was that 10% of girls fall into each of the 10 categories. So, 10% were 9's. The other thought was the average girl is a 5 and so are all the girls within 1 standard deviation. One standard deviation above are 6's, two standard deviations above are 7's. By the time you get to a 9, very few exist in the world.

    Even with the concept of 10% in each group, men often dont agree who is a 6 and who is an 8. It's silly to differentiate between a 7 and a 7. 5.

    A couple years ago Syzygies mentioned a celebrity who he thought was a hottie so I looked her up online. Her pictures did nothing for me, I would have rated her a 6. And so it goes.
    I'm with the standard deviation view as this would be more scientific than the flat 10% allocation. But this whole subjective allocation of points based system is better than word based description, especially if pics are included, thus for example if you were to post a pic of a 7, then in future when you say you met a 8, I would have a in the ballpark idea of how attractive she was. This is more helpful than posts which say I met a 19 yr old hottie / cutie etc etc, which has zero qualitative value for an objective audience.

  13. #48940
    Quote Originally Posted by Franciscass  [View Original Post]
    I've always been curious about how this ubiquitous 1 to 10 rating of girls works. I get that it's a wholly subjective analysis of how attractive a girl is which in itself makes it somewhat useless but what I find almost farcical is when it's broken down into decimalized fractions. She was a 7 but her friend was a 7.5 umm actually no now that I look at her again she is only a 7. 4 and I never go below a 7.5.
    Years ago a group of my buddies discussed this. One thought was that 10% of girls fall into each of the 10 categories. So, 10% were 9's. The other thought was the average girl is a 5 and so are all the girls within 1 standard deviation. One standard deviation above are 6's, two standard deviations above are 7's. By the time you get to a 9, very few exist in the world.

    Even with the concept of 10% in each group, men often dont agree who is a 6 and who is an 8. It's silly to differentiate between a 7 and a 7. 5.

    A couple years ago Syzygies mentioned a celebrity who he thought was a hottie so I looked her up online. Her pictures did nothing for me, I would have rated her a 6. And so it goes.

  14. #48939

    Basic Questions Have All Been Answered Before

    Quote Originally Posted by BonkHanky  [View Original Post]
    Heard some of beer bars don't allow girls to sleep with customers is it true? Means as per my knowledge we can take girls out by hourly or day by paying bar fine isn't it. What kind of bars do not allow girls to go outside and how about the scene in a-gogo bar. Can good hearted monger please explain and my purpose is to take the girl with me for full night from any of the above means if I like the girl very much is it possible I can take them to my hotel for night.

    I am really confused about beer bar / a-gogo bar / Nude dancing bar / Massage / Blow job Bars / Soappy Bars.
    All of these questions are very basic.

    Short answer: Almost every girl you see in a go go bar, massage place, blowjob bar, soapy or oily will have sex in exchange for money. This excludes the girls who serve drinks and the mamasan. Usually the girl will stay with you for one or two hours. This is called "short time," and it can take place at your hotel or in a "short time hotel. " Your desire for a "full night" at your hotel is possible, at a higher price. This is known as "long time." Some girls prefer short time sessions and refuse to do long time.

    You really need to go back 100 pages in all of the Thailand forums and read the posts. This will fill in the details. Reading your original post I suspect that English is not your mother tongue, and reading the previous posts will likely be a challenge. But there is simply no other way to learn how the naughty boy scene works in Bangkok and Pattaya. Nobody is going to waste time answering very basic questions that have all been answered before.

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