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07-08-20 12:51 #48224
Posts: 1222Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Your thesis on the relationship between childbearing and dependency is flawed in a number of ways.
Firstly, not all women bear children, in fact in developed countries fewer women are having children.
Secondly, more and more women now have the financial resources to take care of themselves when they become pregnant. With maternity leave, flexi time and work from home now an established part of a lot of work environments together with the existence of childcare facilities sometimes within the workplace itself they no longer need to stay home and have men take care of them.
Thirdly it seems you boil down the complexity of relationships to the simple hypothesis that men want sex and women will only provide it if there is a benefit in it for them. ET I got to tell you there is a lot more going on.
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07-08-20 07:53 #48223
Posts: 5446Originally Posted by Goatscrot [View Original Post]
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07-08-20 07:52 #48222
Posts: 5446Originally Posted by Stykler [View Original Post]
We men can even be out fucking and making more babies during the very hour she is giving birth to the child.
Consequently, expecting compensation in some meaningful material way for the fucking is the normal, natural mode of behavior for females. Out of necessity.
Really, gents. You must find a way to rid yourselves of this damagingly Puritanical view of women expecting payment for having sex with us as a sure sign of their moral transgression and our hatred for them. Yes, in that way they are all hookers and we are all customers. Sorry.
Unless you want to flog yourselves with a wet noodle for engaging in this hobby that merely mirrors the normal, natural dynamic between males and females on this planet for the propagation of humanity.
Even my mother understood and accepted this reality, as all mothers would.
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07-08-20 07:38 #48221
Posts: 3682Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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07-08-20 07:14 #48220
Posts: 1222Originally Posted by GettingFedUp [View Original Post]
While deception was at the center of this case I fail to see the relevance as it relates to the stealthing that went on in the case of the discarded condom.
I've enjoyed the exchanges but as I'm not sure if we will ever see eye to eye can we leave at lets agree to disagree.
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07-08-20 06:51 #48219
Posts: 1222Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Moreover while not generally accepted in polite society it's always been the case women have sex not just because it is a quid pro quo for support, security, fame, status or money but because just like the rest us they get horny.
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07-08-20 06:30 #48218
Posts: 1222Originally Posted by *****man [View Original Post]
The Wikipedia link does indeed show convictions for sexual assault in Germany and Switzerland as a result of stealthily removing a condom.
For the record in Switzerland the Supreme Court in Zurich later disagreed with the lower court's ruling and held while regrettable it was not illegal.
In Germany as I understand the legal basis for the conviction was direct evidence from the victim that consent to sex was conditional on wearing a condom. By stealthily removing the condom he was breaking the basis of that consent. In other words she was no longer consenting to sex.
The UK case was a straight forward conviction for rape not because he stealthily removed a condom but because she would not have sex with him without a condom.
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07-08-20 06:12 #48217
Posts: 673Originally Posted by Franciscass [View Original Post]
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07-08-20 04:13 #48216
Posts: 5446Originally Posted by Franciscass [View Original Post]
Where is that world, btw?
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07-08-20 04:02 #48215
Posts: 5446Originally Posted by *****man [View Original Post]
Lee Hogben, 35, ignored his female victims repeated pleas to stop during the session in a Bournemouth hotel room.
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She said: “Hogben went beyond what was consented to by removing the protection, which the complainant will say was a condition of intercourse.
“She repeatedly protested, “I don’t do that – please, no”. She tried to wriggle away but he told her to stop. He told her he had beaten people up and robbed people.”
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07-08-20 02:00 #48214
Posts: 1749Originally Posted by Gilolo [View Original Post]
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07-07-20 21:35 #48213
Posts: 351Originally Posted by Franciscass [View Original Post]
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07-07-20 20:02 #48212
Posts: 922It is now considered rape in the UK and most of Europe to remove a condom during sex without consent. Here's an example:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8884726.html
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-c...condom_removal
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07-07-20 16:20 #48211
Posts: 5446Originally Posted by Franciscass [View Original Post]
I was merely riffing on another poster's notion that even the law probably recognizes that having consensual sex with a condom is far enough away from having "Real Sex" that rape or sexual assault comes into play if the condom is removed during the act without the woman's knowledge.
I didn't need to do a Google Search to know there is no such law on the books.
However, I would bet serious money (figuratively speaking, of course) that there were a lot more members here for whom that same thought did cross their mind while reading Gilolo's report than just GettingFedUp 😁
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07-07-20 13:35 #48210
Posts: 178Originally Posted by Franciscass [View Original Post]
With regard to the Male nurse. If the partner cannot consent or refuse because she is unaware then it cannot be consensual. The OP was clearly choosing a method by which she couldn't know that the condom was being removed and so could not consent or protest.
The UK case was Gemma Watts https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-50985868 . It appears that my recollection is flawed because it was Instagram and Snapchat, not Tinder, and they omit the more lurid details on the BBC.