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  1. #46021

    Down Market

    I am heading back to BKK soon. Inasmuch as I have certainly experienced the up market, I wanted to explore the down market side to see what it might be like for the experience of it. I hear that freelancers in the China Town area may go for $500 Bht. ST. Does anyone have any intel on this? Also are there any other areas in Thailand in general, and BKK specifically where I might try exploring the opposite end of the spectrum? Any intel would be appreciated.

  2. #46020
    Quote Originally Posted by LivingFossil  [View Original Post]
    I have this fantasy which I am wondering if I can make come true, maybe some of you have done something like this and can give me guidance, or can suggest alternatives.

    I would like to travel and do touristic things for one or two weeks with two girls who are willing to have sex every day and who will be full lesbian in threesomes, including DATY on each other.

    This is complex because I don't know where to start finding two girls like this with some time on their hands, who will do what I want, and are actually fun to travel with.

    I know I will have to invest time up front finding them. I've done lots of threesomes in the past and finding girls who will DATY is hard.

    I think I would pay them each day they stayed with me and we would get two rooms, one for me and one for them. If they make it to the end I can give them a bonus, haha.

    So I assume in Thailand this could happen easier than most countries? Where do I start? Thanks!
    Easily doable. Easily attainable from girls from go-go bars. You just need to ask. You need to ask about all the details.

    For 100% guarantee, you can get the girls from the Eden Club or the PSE massage parlors to do it, but those girls are on the older and ugly side.

    Far better chance of acceptance from go-go girls. But of course, it will cost a lot more. Seems extremely difficult to get lesbian stuff from Pattaya's Beach Road girls. I think it is more difficult to get freelancers to do it. I didn't have much luck with girls from Beer bars (although, I haven't asked too many from those type of bars).

    Problem is that a good percentage of them will scam you. Either they won't do it, or they will do a poor job. Maybe a third? It is just a cost of doing business. You need to do a test drive, and if good, keep their numbers. Note: if the girls ask for the tip money beforehand, that is a 100% sign that they will scam you to a certain degree.

    IMO, Vietnam is the hardest, maybe impossible? Cambodia seems tough (except Le Crycee). Angeles (Philippines) is probably the easiest out of the 4 countries.

    From my experiences, the easiest country to get lesbian shows is Colombia. Majority of the girls I asked was willing to do lesbian stuff.

  3. #46019
    Quote Originally Posted by LivingFossil  [View Original Post]
    I would like to travel and do touristic things for one or two weeks with two girls who are willing to have sex every day and who will be full lesbian in threesomes, including DATY on each other.

    This is complex because I don't know where to start finding two girls like this with some time on their hands, who will do what I want, and are actually fun to travel with.
    .....

    I think I would pay them each day they stayed with me and we would get two rooms, one for me and one for them. If they make it to the end I can give them a bonus, haha.

    So I assume in Thailand this could happen easier than most countries? Where do I start? Thanks!
    +1 for the Philippines. Just go on to Pinalove or FilipinoCupid.

    Note that finding travel partners will be exceptionally easy but moresomes with GG action are notorious for overpromising. I wouldn't commit to any tickets or extra accommodation until you had road tested them upon arrival in Manila or Cebu.

    You don't need extra rooms for their benefit. Pinas are use to sleeping multiple people to a room. Of course, if you are doing it for your own benefit to have some of your own space and sanity away from the girls, that's perfectly understandable.

    Also, 2 weeks with a couple of air head Pinas constantly checking their phones and watching 40 yo soapies on TV can be draining. Perhaps plan a break in the middle or swap out a different group.

    Make sure you have some flexibility for good and not so good disruptions.

    Enjoy. G.

    PS I forgot to add, dont rule out LBs if they contact you. Not for the act itself but they have lots of gay and working girl friends who they might introduce you to.

    Birds of a feather. . . .

  4. #46018

    Just Negotiate

    Quote Originally Posted by Bkk212  [View Original Post]
    Ok so I have been back from BKK after my trip for some fun.

    First: about Grace hotel I do agree with another thread about the quality / quantity at Grace hotel. It used to be lined with women not only in the coffee shop but outside on the walkway as well. My trip this time there were very few women in the coffee shop and they were on the low quality side. Outside much less and mostly non-Thai women. Not so long ago you could find a gem in amongst the crowd. It has changed quite a bit. Never was a Patpong scouter so I don't know much about it. However the Nana disco seems to be closed.

    Second: I think I made a mistake, two Saturday's ago I was walking down Suk near Thermae caf just walking taking in the sights when near the Sheraton hotel I bumped into a person. Very Beautiful, very sexy, nice smile nice body simply a 9. 9/10. So I decided to speak with her, now I am not Caucasian, and for those who lived in Bangkok will understand. But I decided to try and speak with her. And to my surprise she responded and can speak English well. She said that she works in the caf, not sure as a worker or a special worker and that she was going home, it was about 2:30 pm. Anyway I asked and got 2. 5 K for short time. Now this is way above going rate, so I said too much. Then she said 2 K but I still declined. After going to my hotel I wondered (and still do) if that was the right decision. It was 2. 5 times the going rate but with my luck I don't often bump into 9's in my life. But I also considered that in Jakarta when you are quoted 2. 5 times the price you decline and move on.

    I still think about that encounter to this day, perhaps it would have been worth it. Hopefully now it will only be a memory.
    If you like the girl. Just negotiate, 2:30 is almost too late for her to find anyone else. So you have a good chance.

  5. #46017

    Filipina Bi's

    Quote Originally Posted by LivingFossil  [View Original Post]
    I have this fantasy which I am wondering if I can make come true, maybe some of you have done something like this and can give me guidance, or can suggest alternatives.

    I would like to travel and do touristic things for one or two weeks with two girls who are willing to have sex every day and who will be full lesbian in threesomes, including DATY on each other.

    This is complex because I don't know where to start finding two girls like this with some time on their hands, who will do what I want, and are actually fun to travel with.

    I know I will have to invest time up front finding them. I've done lots of threesomes in the past and finding girls who will DATY is hard.

    I think I would pay them each day they stayed with me and we would get two rooms, one for me and one for them. If they make it to the end I can give them a bonus, haha.

    So I assume in Thailand this could happen easier than most countries? Where do I start? Thanks!
    Thailand is one of the worst places to find what you want. The few bi-sexual ladies I have found wouldn't do threesomes. The Philipines is where you want to try in S. E. Asia.

  6. #46016

    Is a threesome travel fantasy realistic?

    I have this fantasy which I am wondering if I can make come true, maybe some of you have done something like this and can give me guidance, or can suggest alternatives.

    I would like to travel and do touristic things for one or two weeks with two girls who are willing to have sex every day and who will be full lesbian in threesomes, including DATY on each other.

    This is complex because I don't know where to start finding two girls like this with some time on their hands, who will do what I want, and are actually fun to travel with.

    I know I will have to invest time up front finding them. I've done lots of threesomes in the past and finding girls who will DATY is hard.

    I think I would pay them each day they stayed with me and we would get two rooms, one for me and one for them. If they make it to the end I can give them a bonus, haha.

    So I assume in Thailand this could happen easier than most countries? Where do I start? Thanks!

  7. #46015
    Quote Originally Posted by TChizzle  [View Original Post]
    Personally, I've found my favorite BJ place in BKK with 7-Heaven. However, some of you have had bad experiences there (I also had a bad experience there as well).

    I just noticed on 7-Heaven's website that they've taken steps to addressing some service confusion and also you can provide feedback via some online form. LOL.

    I can't help but LOL when I read their recent 'Our Services' notice (dated 07 Aug); I like paragraph 4.1: ". Are you expecting our girls to suck for free? LOL.

    Anyways; it's not perfect. But at least now there's an avenue to provide some feedback to their management.

    Clarification of Services Notice: https://www.7-heavenbkk.com/post/our-services-attention.

    Feedback Form Link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...JWYgg/viewform.
    I don't know why someone would come twice and then ask for refund. I can understand one or two instances but if it has happened multiple times, they better look into themselves.

    I won't be surprised if this shop closes soon. Their price is way more than the market rate for BJ shops, and the fact that they don't show girls but just their pics on ipad, is just ridiculous. Most of their girls are bigger than the pics shown. Though, I agree the girls here are more younger than other BJ shops (maybe that explains poor service).

    Seems like a place to avoid.

  8. #46014
    Quote Originally Posted by TChizzle  [View Original Post]
    Personally, I've found my favorite BJ place in BKK with 7-Heaven. However, some of you have had bad experiences there (I also had a bad experience there as well).

    I just noticed on 7-Heaven's website that they've taken steps to addressing some service confusion and also you can provide feedback via some online form. LOL.

    I can't help but LOL when I read their recent 'Our Services' notice (dated 07 Aug); I like paragraph 4.1: ". Are you expecting our girls to suck for free? LOL.

    Anyways; it's not perfect. But at least now there's an avenue to provide some feedback to their management.

    Clarification of Services Notice: https://www.7-heavenbkk.com/post/our-services-attention.

    Feedback Form Link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...JWYgg/viewform.
    Seems like it's not only a few people from this forum that have received a questionable service in that shop if they decided to edit a form to explain that they will not accept any refund anymore.

  9. #46013

    7-Heaven Clarifying Services / Confusion and Feedback Form

    Personally, I've found my favorite BJ place in BKK with 7-Heaven. However, some of you have had bad experiences there (I also had a bad experience there as well).

    I just noticed on 7-Heaven's website that they've taken steps to addressing some service confusion and also you can provide feedback via some online form. LOL.

    I can't help but LOL when I read their recent 'Our Services' notice (dated 07 Aug); I like paragraph 4.1: ". Are you expecting our girls to suck for free? LOL.

    Anyways; it's not perfect. But at least now there's an avenue to provide some feedback to their management.

    Clarification of Services Notice: https://www.7-heavenbkk.com/post/our-services-attention.

    Feedback Form Link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...JWYgg/viewform.

  10. #46012
    Quote Originally Posted by Bkk212  [View Original Post]
    ...

    Second: I think I made a mistake, two Saturday's ago I was walking down Suk near Thermae caf just walking taking in the sights when near the Sheraton hotel I bumped into a person. Very Beautiful, very sexy, nice smile nice body simply a 9. 9/10. So I decided to speak with her, now I am not Caucasian, and for those who lived in Bangkok will understand. But I decided to try and speak with her. And to my surprise she responded and can speak English well. She said that she works in the caf, not sure as a worker or a special worker and that she was going home, it was about 2:30 pm. Anyway I asked and got 2. 5 K for short time. Now this is way above going rate, so I said too much. Then she said 2 K but I still declined. After going to my hotel I wondered (and still do) if that was the right decision. It was 2. 5 times the going rate but with my luck I don't often bump into 9's in my life. But I also considered that in Jakarta when you are quoted 2. 5 times the price you decline and move on.

    I still think about that encounter to this day, perhaps it would have been worth it. Hopefully now it will only be a memory.
    There might be some confusion about the time you "bumped into" this person and the location. There is a bit for me, at least. When I first read it I assumed you meant 2:30AM and not 2:30PM. Otherwise, why mention Thermae. Thermae doesn't open until 8PM in the evening. So when I saw the Thermae reference I automatically converted your 2:30PM into 2:30AM and chalked it up to a typo. Seems like Natty did the same thing ("2:30 in the morning"). And did you mean the 4 Points at the Sheraton Hotel on Sukhumvit 15 or the Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit on the other side of Sukhumvit across from Terminal 21 Mall?

    These details matter in this respect; If you met a true and solid 9 person in appearance standing outside either of Thermae's entrances (the rear entrance is located on Soi 15, near 4 Points by Sheraton Hotel) at 2:30AM, assuming Thermae was still open at that time on a Saturday night/early Sunday morning, she works in the cafe and was willing to start at 2,500 and quickly jump on 2,000 baht for ST, that is NOT 2.5 times the going rate for a relative 9 by Thermae's standards. It is instead LESS than the going rate for a 9 by Thermae's standards.

    Lord only knows what a solid 9 genuine female could easily get at that hour standing on Sukhumivit. Like Natty, I don't believe I have ever seen one on the stroll there. But I doubt it would be less than 2,000 baht very often.

    However, maybe she wasn't coming out of or going into Thermae as a "cafe worker" at all but just standing around outside one of the entrances at that hour of the night/early morning. If that was the case, now we're talking about a 95%+ chance she was a ladyboy, imo.

    I have seen several ladyboys hanging around the entrances of Thermae who by most photogenic standards of face or body part beauty would rate a 9 or near it in the eyes of many men. But I have not often heard of a solid 9 real female who could be a Thermae FL starting out at just 2,500 baht and jumping down to 2,000 baht so quickly. Not saying it is impossible. I got a Thermae left side line up 9 for 2,500 baht fairly recently after she quickly came down from 3,000 baht (she was an aborted mission for me, btw, not worth even 100 baht by my standards of service). She said she works in the cafe, right? You could have gone back any night and looked around for her, no?

    In other words, you didn't miss any chance of a lifetime either way, if she was a ladyboy or if she was a seriously in need 9 looking to make quick discount deals with whatever customer she is lucky enough to meet in or outside of Thermae.

    Of course, none of that applies if you really did mean it was 2:30PM in the afternoon, in which case the Thermae "cafe worker" idea does not fit, but you were on the other side of the boulevard near the Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit Hotel when you "bumped into" this person. She really could have been a Once in a Lifetime opportunity gone forever. She might never need 2,000 baht so urgently on any future particular moment of any future particular day and run into you again. Or she could have been a ladyboy working it on that side of the street on a Saturday afternoon, too. But there is less chance of that being the case than the 95%+ chance of it as in the other scenario.

  11. #46011

    Kasalong

    Just landed BKK. Spent some time in the pool in the afternoon and got horny. Tried to arrange with girls from ThaiFriendly but those I like were not available today. Went to Kasalong to blow my first load. Took Pim up, who was sitting right by the entrance. Grabbed a Singha and we went upstairs. She looked good at her age, likely in her early 40's. Put me in a small room, told me to stripe off and she came back with her kit. She cleaned my junk in the sink in the room. I sat on the leather couch, she got down on her knees and started blowing junior. Pim pulled down her tops and let me fondle her boobs. She took it slow, paid a lot of attention licking my balls which I liked a lot and not a lot of hands action. A nice CIM in 15 minutes. Damaged 800 baht, tip 200. A good quickie before the night starts.

  12. #46010
    Quote Originally Posted by Bkk212  [View Original Post]
    I also considered that in Jakarta when you are quoted 2. 5 times the price you decline and move on.
    That depends on the price. If a girl is asking for 2.5 million rupiah when the price is normally 1 million, I will take a pass. But if the price is normally 300 k and the girl asks for 750 k, I will likely go for it if she is head and shoulders better than the other girls.

  13. #46009
    Quote Originally Posted by Bkk212  [View Original Post]
    I still think about that encounter to this day, perhaps it would have been worth it. Hopefully now it will only be a memory.
    Hey man, it's human nature to think about the girl that got away. But, you can't undo what you did, so learn from your mistake or not. It is not that important. There are plenty more fish in the sea. Now if it had been me and I had encountered a 9. 9 star girl on Sukhumvit at 2:30 in the morning and she seemed nice and she was not a LB (555): I would have taken her to my room for 2,000 baht, but then again, I have NEVER encountered a 9. 9 * SW in BKK or anywhere else so I am not 100% sure on this. Let's just say you were very attracted to a girl, you passed because you felt her price was too high, not true if she was as hot as you say, but anyway, it's water under the bridge. She was the one that got away this trip. Welcome to the club.

  14. #46008
    Quote Originally Posted by Peroxide  [View Original Post]
    Contrary to what most users here, I like big fake tits, like the girls I see on the sapphire club YouTube videos (bikini calendar contest). Is there a place where they're more prevalent? If I find one I'll report here.
    Try Colombia. Or Venezuela when things settle down there. For big naturals try Dominican Republic. Signed, fellow motorboater.

  15. #46007
    Quote Originally Posted by Bkk212  [View Original Post]
    Ok so I have been back from BKK after my trip for some fun.

    First: about Grace hotel I do agree with another thread about the quality / quantity at Grace hotel. It used to be lined with women not only in the coffee shop but outside on the walkway as well. My trip this time there were very few women in the coffee shop and they were on the low quality side. Outside much less and mostly non-Thai women. Not so long ago you could find a gem in amongst the crowd. It has changed quite a bit. Never was a Patpong scouter so I don't know much about it. However the Nana disco seems to be closed.

    Second: I think I made a mistake, two Saturday's ago I was walking down Suk near Thermae caf just walking taking in the sights when near the Sheraton hotel I bumped into a person. Very Beautiful, very sexy, nice smile nice body simply a 9. 9/10. So I decided to speak with her, now I am not Caucasian, and for those who lived in Bangkok will understand. But I decided to try and speak with her. And to my surprise she responded and can speak English well. She said that she works in the caf, not sure as a worker or a special worker and that she was going home, it was about 2:30 pm. Anyway I asked and got 2. 5 K for short time. Now this is way above going rate, so I said too much. Then she said 2 K but I still declined. After going to my hotel I wondered (and still do) if that was the right decision. It was 2. 5 times the going rate but with my luck I don't often bump into 9's in my life. But I also considered that in Jakarta when you are quoted 2. 5 times the price you decline and move on.

    I still think about that encounter to this day, perhaps it would have been worth it. Hopefully now it will only be a memory.
    Now let me give this a stab? You met what you consider a " 9. 9/10 " just for the record I'm also not Caucasian. She offer 2,500 baht for ST. " it was 2. 5 times the going rate " My question to you what do you consider the going rate in Bangkok on the street for a 9. 9/10?

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