Bangkok Reports

[FuckedUpSwede]

Went to "plaza entertainment complex" today to fulfil a old dream of soapy. Went there at approx 5 pm and there was approx. 20 "girls" present. No other mongers.

I realized I may be spoilt since my mongering career have mainly been FKK: s in Germany.

It's hard to tell the age of a thai woman and it's no easier when they are like 20 meters away. Maybe I should bring binoculars next time?

Anyway, I ended up with a 45 years old lady that, as you could expect, was not so pretty up front.

I went thru her normal routine, job done but nothing to write home about. My dream of soapy is gone as well.

I certainly hope this was not the best Bangkok has to offer. More will follow, soi cowboy here I come!

[Aster14]

Been a little more than year since I was last in Thailand, will be making a trip in Feb, 4 days in Pattaya then 4 in BKK. Many thanks to Elmo for the report, especially on which bars to avoid as I kept to WeChat and TF last time around, but looking to visit the bars more on the upcoming trip.

Quick question, how was your room at the Pullman? I booked a standard King but contemplating upgrading.

[Elmo]

Three nights in Bangkok: Night 1 - Thursday. Bad.

I was last in Thailand in Nov 2018 - Phuket and Bangkok. Since then, I have been working way too much, and needed a vacation. A big work project suddenly resolved, so I booked a last minute 4 day /3 night trip to Bangkok. Bought a very expensive business class ticket so I could sleep on the plane and try hit the ground running on arrival. Plan did not work out as well as I had hoped, at least at first. I have only ever hit Soi Cowboy, when in Bangkok, and I stay at the Pullman hotel just up the street from the gogo bars there. But this trip I ended up branching out and checking other venues. Mostly because about half of the Soi Cowby bars are now rip off joints. Owned by "the man from Iran."

Night 1 - wandered up and down Soi cowboy, checking out the girls trying to pull guys into the various rip off joints owned by the man from Iran. Spice girls, Rio, Kiss, Sahara, Deja Vu. However, I forgot this point as the night went on. Saw a super thin cute little gal outside Spice Girls and thought I would love to have sex with her. But knew the only thing that would happened would be she would separate a lot of money from my wallet. She looked like a super thin JAV model, and was named "Tam-sin".

Made it down to Baccara. Baccara makes you buy a drink out side before you can go in, up to 11:30 pm After 11:30, you can just walk into the place. I stood around and as soon as they stopped making customers buy beers outside, I went in. First floor had quite a few reasonable gals. Then went up to the 2nd floor and was a bit disappointed. Nice that the gals were dancing topless, but did not see any that really interested me. Did see the Baccara gal I did back in Nov 2018 - she was terrible. See my late Nov 2018 report. She had bleached her hair. But otherwise still looked good. Nice big firm natural tits, but shitty service from her. Would not let me kiss her or do DATY back then, and was kind of a dead lay. I think she recognized me and I was tempted to bar fine her again. Just to see if I could kiss and DATY her, and try and get her turned on. Maybe even do a grudge fuck bareback. But realized I would likely get in trouble for that. Ended up drinking quite bit at Bacarra, maybe hoping that someone really good would come walking back into the bar.

After a while, I left Bacarra and saw the super thin little hottie outside Spice Girls again- her name was Tam-sin. Was not thinking clearly and stupidly approached her and said I wanted to buy her a lady drink. Moment I walked in, knew it was not going to be good. Several very beautiful gals dancing on stage. But there were no customers inside. With the alcohol and my dick doing the thinking for me, I ordered her the lady drink, and then saw the bill. "Coyote tequila drink 550 Baht" I tried to look cool and calm, in light of this bar bill, and proceeded to chat with her for bit. She said she was 20, from just over the Mekong river from Thailand, in Laos, although she looked more like a little JAV model, and weighted 38 kilos (84 pounds). With my thumb and middle finger I could wrap around her upper arm /"bicep" area and have my middle finger and thumb touch. I immediately began thinking about comparing my cock with her arm, and got really horny. Knowing some places have a two lady drink minimum before one can bar fine, I stupidly ordered her another Coyote lady drink. Then asked about barfine and ST / LT. She let me know that she is not available for bar fine and will go home at two am When her shift is over. It was an expensive lesson. Next day, I RTFF and realized what bars to avoid during the rest of my trip. Like I said, this was the "bad" night.

I then left Spice Girls and hit Cowboy 2, Tilac, and Crazy Cat. Cowboy 2 had lots of hot girls, while Crazy had several real beauties. I decided that a thin little gal I had seen gyrating on stage at Cowboy 2 was the best option, so I went back there. She was taken, but saw "Jenny" instead. Short thin little gal. About 40 kg and 150 cm (5 ft) tall. Quite large breasts for such a short thin gal, but it turned out to be a padded bra. Bar fine for Jenny was 3,000 Baht!! WTF??? I could not believe it. And all of the hot gals at Cowboy 2 had this 3,0000 Baht bar fine. There were also a number of lesser gals in less revealing outfits that only had a 1,000 Baht BF. But the quality drop off was obvious.

As it was getting late, and I was still thinking with my dick, I paid the 3,000 be bar fine and 3,000 be ST with Jenny. She made me pay both at the club. Not a good sign. As were walking back to the hotel, she started saying that I had to pay her 3,000 be for short time. But, I had just paid her the ST money back at Cowboy 2. Eventually, I got her to agree that yes I had already paid both her and the BF back at the bar. I was starting to think that the entire night might be one big expensive lesson on what not to do in BKK.

When we got to the room, the kissing was just okay. She did not really get turned on by the DATY, and when I started fucking her with the condom on, I could not feel a thing. Between the jet lag, the booze, and the vitamin V I had taken. Switched to doggy, but I first slipped the condom off and went in bareback. She was not very wet at all. After some strokes, realized I needed to hit the reset button. Pulled out, got some more lube, and started aggressive DATY on her, hoping to turn her on. Used a bunch of lube and put another condom on. After some covered mish, still not feeling much, I again switched to bareback doggy. Realized I was too tired and drunk to accomplish anything and called it quits. As she was getting dressed, "Jenny" asked for a tip. I responded for what. I did not come, and that the fuck was not very good. Asked her why do you think you deserve a tip? She just looked at me confused. A very expensive evening with nothing really to show for it, except maybe relearning some lessons I had stupidly forgotten.

But vowed to RTFF and check out some other places. Such as Thermae and Nana. The next day.

Three nights in Bangkok: Night 2 - Friday. Better.

Spent the afternoon RTFF and looking at videos shot from inside Thermae to get a sense of what to expect there. Also realized that at Soi Cowboy, one should avoid the following rip off joints. Rio, Sahara, Kiss Deja Vu, Spice Girls and Midnight. They all have lots of hot gals standing outside, but no customers. Total clip joints all owned by the "man from Iran. ".

On the other hand, the following Soi Cowboy bars be worth checking out. Bacarra; Crazy House; Crazy Cat, Toy Bar, AfterSkool, Dollhouse; Lighthouse; Shark, and Tilac, depending on one's tastes in clubs, music, atmosphere, and women.

Later that afternoon, I walked down Sukhumvit, and found where Thermae is. That evening, Went there at about 9 pm. placed was packed, but I was the only white guy there - everyone else was Chinese, Japanese, Korean, or another Asian. Bought a beer as I came in and did two laps. Was somewhat surprised at the quality. There were several gals who appeared quite good - although a little hard to tell when they are sitting down and not wearing very revealing outfits. Were quite a few nasty ones too - including a short 60+ yr old grandmother. Yuck!

On my next trip to BBK, I might have to stay at a hotel somewhere between Soi Cowboy and Thermae, so I can take some free lance ST galsfrom Thermae back to my room for a 9 p.m. early warm up session before hitting Soi Cowboy for a little late night fucking.

Decided to go back to Soi Cowboy and stopped to eat at a food cart along the way. Saw Tam-sin, this time looking very nice in a tight police type uniform outside of Deja Vu - she had been at Spice Gals the prior night. I waved to her, but kept walking. Hit Bacarra after 11:30, but did not stay for long. Then had a good time bouncing around between Crazy Cat, Dollhouse, Lighthouse and Tilac. At one of these bars, I saw two gals dancing on stage next to each other and decided I just had to have one of them. "P" was about 20, looked very young and innocent with a nice little body."F" was really skinny, 22 yrs old, hardly any tits, but a very pretty face and beautiful long hair. Turns out "P' and "F are half-sisters - same mother. "F" got off the stage first and had seen me eyeing her. I waved her over and bought her a lady drink.

She was a really cute and fun gal. We had a good time talking, laughing, couch dancing and drinking. Mamasan came over and I asked about bar fine. She said, wait until 1 a.m., about 20 minutes away, and then bar fine for "F" will only be 700 Baht. Bought Mamasan a drink and had a good laugh or two with her, along with "F." Once it hit 1 a.m, I paid the bar fine and I left with hot little "F", after negotiating the ST deal. Not sure why I bought mamasan a drink, but the karma paid off later on in the trip.

After shower, "F" and I started kissing and I began lots of DATY. She got so wet and came at least once as I did DATY. Also finger fucked her pussy and she got very wet. Condom went on and started in mish, but could not feel much. Stopped the mish, took the condom off and started with more DATY. Made sure she came at least one more time. Then entered her bareback in doggy, then pushed her down to the bed, so she was flat on her stomach and fucked her hard. She then rode on top me for a bit. I made sure to slide my cock in her as I was not sure she was aware we were barebacking. Then we did some more mish, before I put her legs up on my shoulders, put my hands around her slender waist, and pounded her hard. She was going crazy as I pulled out and came on her stomach. She was a little surprised having cum all over her stomach, but I pointed to the condom that was still in my fist, and she must have assumed I pulled out, took the condom off and jerked off on her stomach. Toweled the come off her and she sort of staggered to the bathroom. As she staggered back from the bathroom, all weak legged, I asked if something was wrong. She just said, good fuck, good fuck. I said okay, let me give you a nice massage to help you recover your muscle control. I massaged her for a while, all with some great DFK. She then left after I gave her a reasonable tip on top of the ST deal..

Three nights in Bangkok: Night 3 - Saturday - Best

It was great fun each morning trying to speak basic Thai to the cute 20-something gals who work at the hotel's breakfast buffet each morning - "Mui" and "Thwy" especially.

Realized I had never been to Nana Plaza, so I researched that the following afternoon while sitting at the hotel pool. Late in the afternoon, I walked down to Nana Plaza - I found the Hooters, and the other bars around there that I recognized from videos, but did not see Nana Plaza, until I turned around and realized the lane I was standing in (right next to Big Dogs) was the actual entrance way to NP. Felt pretty dumb once I figured that out. Had a late dinner and at about 9 pm. I headed back up to NP, and hit Billboards and then Rainbow (2nd floor - I think it was #4). Was impressed with the quality of the Billboard babes - tall, thin almost model like, but they looked like 1) they knew they were beautiful; and 2) would charged accordingly; and 3) the service had better be amazing, but likely would not be. Rainbow (4?) was okay, when they went topless on stage was surprised by how many had fake boobs. There seemed to be a lot more ladyboy bars at NP than at Soi Cowboy, and they are a lot more aggressive at NP. On the way back, stopped in at Thermae at about 10:30 p.m. and it was jumping. Still a completely Asian crowd. I just bought a coke, as I wanted to pace myself that evening.

After a few laps at Thermae, headed back to Soi Cowboy and tried to find the bar where I had met "F" the prior night. Was hoping to try and fuck her younger sister "P." I walked in and did not recognized anyone in the bar, although knew I was in the right place. Got a beer and had a good laugh - each time a bar girl came back to the bar, in her street clothes from servicing a customer, the other girls would make a big scene and tease her. When the second gal returning walked in and was getting tease, she looked over at me, got a weird look on her face, immediately pulled out her mobile phone and made a call as she walked back out of the bar. A minute or two later, Mamasan comes in and quickly walked over to me, saying. "F" does not work on Saturday nights, but they called her and she is heading over to the bar now. She should be here in about 10 minutes as she lives close and is getting a motor bike ride over. "F" wants to see me again. Well there goes the plan to fuck her younger sister, "P"

"F" comes into the bar a few minutes later, wearing a revealing small top and bottom, but clearly not the bar's uniform for that night. [She had worn a little sun dress with this outfit underneath - she had gone in the back, taken off the sun dress and came out in the little top and bottom. She was both quite shy/embarrassed and also somewhat excited to see me. I felt like a rock star. I waved her over and she gave me a good hug. Turns out she does not work on Saturday nights as she goes to some type of college class about marketing every Sunday from 8 a.m. to 3 p.m. She wanted to see me again, after our time last night, but told me she could not stay out too late, as she needs to go back home and go to bed by about 3 a.m.

Her younger sister "P" then walked in, wearing a small little light blue sun dress and got teased. Damn she looked so hot and cute, and I wanted to fuck her so badly. She was surprised to see her sister "F" but then saw me, laughed and waved to me. Mamasan asked if I could buy both her and "F" some lady drinks, since "F" had been scheduled to be off that day. Mamasan also asked if it would be okay if "F" went and danced on stage with the other girls as she wanted to have some fun and talk with her friends. I had thought that this whole story might be a bit of BS, but each of the gals coming back to the bar, were obviously surprised to see "F" up on the stage, until she pointed over to me, and then the other gals would laugh and wave to me. She must have said something to the other bar girls when she got back to the bar the previous nights. I just chilled out, talking to Mamasan, while "F" danced up a storm, having fun with her sister and the other bar gals. Just after 1 a.m., Mamasan said, that bar fine was now only 700B that I should leave with "F" so she can get up and go to class on Sunday.

"F" went and changed into the little sun dress she had worn to work and we headed up Soi Cowboy to my hotel. She was walking next to me, until a gal from one of the clip joints grabbed my arm and tried to pull me into the bar. (Think it was Deja Vu)."F" yells at the gal, and grabs my arm and we walk arm in arm back to the hotel. [No gal is taking her man!] When we get to Asok Road, she yells to a young guy on a motor bike and he takes off up the street. She tells me that is her friend who brought her over to the bar. As we approach the Pullman hotel, I see him siting waiting there, ready take her back home when she is done.

We go up to the room, and have a good conversation and a few laughs. She then says we should take showers, which we do, Start with lots of DFK, and she starts stroking my hard cock. I put some lube on it, and then begin lots of intense DATY on her, while massaging her perky little nipples. She goes crazy. I put more lube on my cock and enter her bareback in mish, and then put her legs up on my shoulders, grabbed her waist and started pounding her. We switched to doggy, before I pushed her down flat on the bed (on her stomach) and fucked her hard. Also pulled her hair, to raise her head and started DFK while fucking her. After a little bit, I say, that I am going to cum in her pussy, and realize that probably was not a smart thing to say. My arousal level drops a little, so I fuck her even harder, cuming inside her after about 8-10 more strokes. Fortunately, my cock stayed some what hard, after cuming (due to the Viagra) that I continued to fuck her some more. Not sure she noticed that I had cum inside her soaking wet little pussy. I then stopped, and started DATY her again, and finger fucking her, trying to get come of the cum out of her. I then put her legs on my shoulders and fucked her some more until I lost the erection. I then stopped and claimed that I was too tired from last night. We cuddled for a while and then she went to take a shower. While in the shower, she asked if I had finished. I assumed that she was asking if I had cum inside her, but denied I had cum, that I was too tired and had to stop.

After she got out of the shower, she talked about what her day would be like on Sunday, sleep from about 3 to 6:30, go to class from 8 to 3, take a nap, and then work at the bar from 10 to 4. She said she hated Sundays as it would just wear her out, but she wanted to see me again, and asked if I could come to the bar again on Sunday. I told her that I could not stay out late on Sunday, as I had an early flight out on Monday. She got upset and I told her I would get there early. In truth, I was actually leaving late Sunday afternoon, so I did not return to see her.

I gave her the ST money, plus a nice tip. She gave me a big hug when she saw the tip. I took a couple pics of her and then she left. I could see her get on the motor bike and head up Asok Road away from the hotel and Soi Cowboy. I then laid in bed for a while, thinking about her, and got rock hard again. I thought about heading out again, but knew I would be too tired to much if I did head out again.

Post script:

The next morning, Sunday, I went down to the breakfast buffet and Mui, one of the cuties that works in the restaurant, greeted me enthusiastically. She brought me a cup of coffee, and as I was taking a sip, asked if I had had a good night sleep last night. I almost spit the coffee out and thought about blurting out - "You are damn right a slept well last night, after I came inside a hot little thai bar girl's hot, wet pussy." But I composed myself and said yes, I had been very tired and that I had gotten a good night sleep. We then chatted and laughed for a bit.

My plan has been to work hard, save up a bunch of money, and retire early to a life of fun in the sun and fucking young girls. This trip was a very expensive last minute trip, and I am already thinking about how and when I can return to BKK. I fear that my early retirement plans may soon be altered, if I do many more trips like this one. It was really fun however.

[Franciscass]

I agree. I have always have lot's of energy for sex on an empty stomach, but sex on a full stomach really slows me down and I get so lazy in bed. That is why I prefer to eat afterwards and if I like the girl I will invite her to accompany me. She is free to do what she likes; go to dinner, return to her bar, or do whatever with her friends somewhere far from Sukhumvit. Thus it evolves that having a couple of drinks in the bar, boom boom in my room, and then dinner out becomes the norm with all my favorite repeat girls. And sometimes after I put them in a taxi and we say goodbye, somewhere between midnight and 2am, I go out looking for new. Ha Ha. That's one of the reasons why I like BKK so much.

But it is always best NOT to take a girl somewhere she won't like and it is a usually a waste of money to take her to an expensive restaurant she most likely won't appreciate. Most Thai girls I know like Isan food and street food. They also enjoy Thai family BBQ restaurants where its all you can eat / grill your own meats and seafood at your table style and boy, can Thai girls eat. 555. Some Thai girls like Sukiyaki style restaurants like MK Gold and a few girls like Sushi if they have been exposed to it previously. So again, it is always best to go with the flow and to ask them what they like, but if you don't like Thai food maybe think about Sao Paulo instead of BKK. I love Thai food.

Agreed a pig fest especially with large portioned starchy dishes doesn't help energy levels and can end up with Jack laid out and Jill trying her best to get a pop out of him. Personally I find rice in particular slows me so if it's a pre-show meal I tend to stick to the tried and tested lean meat two veg option after which I'm good to go.

The success or otherwise of taking a girl to dinner can depend a lot on her being able to speak your lingo which usually means English and her willingness and ease sharing her story and her feelings. If she spends the time on her phone and isn't interested in communicating that makes for an uncomfortable vibe.

For me it comes down to is what you are looking for. If it's just a shag then no need for dinner but if you want it to be something more I. E. The so called fantasy GFE what better to find it than playing footsie at Shabu Shabu.

Another issue to consider is whether she in on the clock or not. Paying an extra 1000 baht plus an hour on top of the check and the agreed service fee can cause a serious loss of appetite.

[Smoothy]

Some Thai girls like Sukiyaki style restaurants like MK Gold. if you don't like Thai food maybe think about Sao Paulo instead of BKK. I love Thai food.

"Some Thai girls"? I think all Thai girls like MK. That's where I take Thai girls because it always makes both of us happy. I prefer the regular MK over MK Gold. I could eat at MK every day. However, I'm not a big fan of Thai food in general. There's no need to like Thai food when in Bangkok because every food under the sun is available in Bangkok. I eat western food every day in Bangkok when I am not eating at MK.

[Tiny 12]

To be perfectly honest the bouncers probably saved you some money. If you like the young cute innocent types that East Asian dudes usually go for, those girls in Rainbow (specifically RB3 & RB4) and Baccara (ground floor) basically only look for Asian customers, and every once in a while, a white guy.

What I mean is, yes the bouncers were racist outside, but a lot of the girls inside would be just as bad. The last thing you want is to see a 9/10-10/10, ask the waitress to bring her down for a drink, and have the girl decline the drink.

Stick to Billboards / Butterflies / Spankys / Angelwitch.

I haven't had a problem at Rainbow 4 or Rainbow 2. The last time time I was in Bangkok I pulled what I thought was the hottest woman from each. Performance sucked though. [Deleted by Admin]

[Member #4698]

Sex is best on an empty stomach. I would prefer to have sex first and then take her to eat afterwards if the chemistry is going good. Otherwise you can waste money on the meal only to find out she is a complete dud on the bed, and is not really wanting your dick at all.

I still maintain you ought to know a girl a bit better before taking her out to eat, and then find something mutually suitable, without wasting big bucks.

I agree. I have always have lot's of energy for sex on an empty stomach, but sex on a full stomach really slows me down and I get so lazy in bed. That is why I prefer to eat afterwards and if I like the girl I will invite her to accompany me. She is free to do what she likes; go to dinner, return to her bar, or do whatever with her friends somewhere far from Sukhumvit. Thus it evolves that having a couple of drinks in the bar, boom boom in my room, and then dinner out becomes the norm with all my favorite repeat girls. And sometimes after I put them in a taxi and we say goodbye, somewhere between midnight and 2am, I go out looking for new. Ha Ha. That's one of the reasons why I like BKK so much.

But it is always best NOT to take a girl somewhere she won't like and it is a usually a waste of money to take her to an expensive restaurant she most likely won't appreciate. Most Thai girls I know like Isan food and street food. They also enjoy Thai family BBQ restaurants where its all you can eat / grill your own meats and seafood at your table style and boy, can Thai girls eat. 555. Some Thai girls like Sukiyaki style restaurants like MK Gold and a few girls like Sushi if they have been exposed to it previously. So again, it is always best to go with the flow and to ask them what they like, but if you don't like Thai food maybe think about Sao Paulo instead of BKK. I love Thai food.

[Syzygies]

I don't get the argument taking a working girl to dinner is a waste of time and money and means nothing to her. I agree taking her to a high end overpriced restaurant will not impress her any more than taking her somewhere more reasonably priced and importantly serves food she likes. In my opinion it does make a difference for both parties and results in a better experience back in the room. The stereotypical image of the money grubbing uneducated uncultured country girl only good for fucking is sadly all too prevalent particularly among the older, more tired and generally disgruntled with life mongers. If you are willing to pay her for her time why not spend some of it getting to know her over a plate of som tam and a glass of the house wine. Who knows just maybe just possibly you might learn something new something interesting you didn't know about Thai girls.

Interesting view. Yes although Thai girls have to think about money, there is all range of personalities, from semi-hooker to hardened hooker. Casual part time hookers were more prevalent yesteryear. Hookers that wanted to go on a "date" certainly existed. We should not look down on a girl purely because she is a hooker out of financial necessity. However working in a bar too long changes a girl.

If you just met, I doubt that you are experience the real girl, and she will not experience the real you most likely. Girls can put on an act. Yes plenty of times I have taken a girl to eat if she was hungry, but just to be easy going. The girls will typically order more food than they actually will eat, suggesting dishes for the guy that he might even like at all, e. G. Stir fry pork with Chinese Broccoli and Oyster sauce because its sweet and not spicy. I actually would not really like to eat it, and nor would the girl, but she ordered it. So its important to find out what the girl actually wants to eat and best not to let her order.

Girls can potentially take guys to restaurant where they get a kick back (commission). Don't let the girl choose a very expensive seafood restaurant where she may be getting a high kick back. Generally don't let the girl choose. Too many times it turns out bad. There are exceptions. Don't eat where a taxi driver suggests too. Commission applies.

I have eaten on the street with bar girls that don't fuck too. You have to make a distinction about when you want her conversational company and when you want sex.

Sex is best on an empty stomach. I would prefer to have sex first and then take her to eat afterwards if the chemistry is going good. Otherwise you can waste money on the meal only to find out she is a complete dud on the bed, and is not really wanting your dick at all.

I still maintain you ought to know a girl a bit better before taking her out to eat, and then find something mutually suitable, without wasting big bucks.

I got a several days sick dose of food poisoning once, after allowing the well known MP girl to choose an Italian restaurant in Soi 19. The lamb had gone off and I thought the weird taste was the truffle sauce. Ha ha. If I had chosen, it clearly would not have happened. I don't really go for Italian anyway. Yes bad luck, but I have several less than great experiences when a girl chose. Years later the girl redeemed herself taking me to a really fun Japanese restaurant (Japanese owner with Thai wife) with great quality food too. Later the restaurant went to crap after was sold to Thais.

Sometimes a hooker wants to get a real massage, so you can go to a real massage place together, or to the movies, or to dinner. If get on great can take her away on a several day holiday, obviously with lots of meals involved, lots of sex, and lots of play. One of my best holidays ever with the MP girl.

[GrapeMan]

As for dinner, Thai girls don't care about fancy restaurants. Want to make a Thai girl happy? Take her to a Thai restaurant or buy her some street food for 80 baht. Take her to a hot pot place like Shabushi or MK or a Japanese restaurant like Fuji. I have taken girls to nice Western restaurants and they go straight to the Thai section of the menu!

Yeah this is right on. My Thai friends would say the same about themselves (I have to assume these girls don't feel too different). Hotpot, sushi, thai seafood or issan food, or just local thai, that's what they want when they go out a lot of the time. Some fancy overpriced Bangkok restaurant or western restaurant is more like a once in a while thing, its not what they would often choose.

[Franciscass]

I don't get the argument taking a working girl to dinner is a waste of time and money and means nothing to her. I agree taking her to a high end overpriced restaurant will not impress her any more than taking her somewhere more reasonably priced and importantly serves food she likes. In my opinion it does make a difference for both parties and results in a better experience back in the room. The stereotypical image of the money grubbing uneducated uncultured country girl only good for fucking is sadly all too prevalent particularly among the older, more tired and generally disgruntled with life mongers. If you are willing to pay her for her time why not spend some of it getting to know her over a plate of som tam and a glass of the house wine. Who knows just maybe just possibly you might learn something new something interesting you didn't know about Thai girls.

[Bouvis]

Eat lite and fuck long.

That sir is a phrase that pays.

Love your work.

[EihTooms]

Agreed. Now for an unpopular opinion: Some guys arrive in Thailand carrying their western values and think that all working girls are poor and have never experienced the good life. So these guys take the girls out to a 1,500 THB dinner thinking they're the girls' knight in shining armor. But the reality is the girls couldn't care less about dinner with us punters or where it happens to be. Put that dinner money towards their tip if you're going to go that route.

If I may offer a possible reason some first time Bkk punters might think a special dinner in a fancy restaurant is in order for some of these Thai girls; look at their photos and profiles on the dating sites from ThaiCupid and ThaiFriendly all the way down to booty call sites like Tinder. LOL. Many of the girls, including upfront honest Freelancers, feature pics of themselves glammed up in cocktail dresses, raising a long stemmed wine glass at a table with an ice bucket and a champagne bottle wrapped in linen!

I have lost count of how many Thai hookers on those sites post pics of themselves standing in front of the Eiffel Tower or on a gondola in Venice! LOL. And not selfies. Some dude who has taken them there is unseen behind the camera phone.

So I can see why many punters planning to come to Bkk for the first time but have perused the online meeting sites could have the wrong impression of what it takes to inspire some of these girls to drop their panties with a smile rather than begrudgingly. Or is it slowing getting closer to the right impression these days. Only tme will tell.

[Syzygies]

Have a hotel near Thermae, don't want to boom boom at the hotel over the bar. I really like the idea of dinner then taking her back to my hotel 10-15 min walk away. Can someone recommend a restaurant near Thermae? Maybe where its only 500 baht per person? Or do the ladies expect a fancy meal?

You first meet and fuck with a girl is certainly not a date. Don't bother. Once you know each other for a long time, and there is a certain chemistry developing then can go for a date if she is interested. Better not to get emotionally hooked on hookers though.

Many of us got Girlfriends accidentally without meaning to. If its a hooker though, you can be sure her motivation is financial, at least at the start, and maybe forever.

I don't really understand what Escorts are for other than sex, so maybe I am biased. I don't need to hire a girl just to have her listen to me yack, but can get such a girl in a bar like Crazy Cats, if needed.

Only a small portion of the girls are educated to very good English levels.

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As for dinner, Thai girls don't care about fancy restaurants. Want to make a Thai girl happy? Take her to a Thai restaurant or buy her some street food for 80 baht. Take her to a hot pot place like Shabushi or MK or a Japanese restaurant like Fuji. I have taken girls to nice Western restaurants and they go straight to the Thai section of the menu!

I agree with some. I once took Mrs to expensive French restaurant. She did not understand the food really, and was upset about how many thousand baht wasted on the bill.

She likes Japanese, now that I got her used to raw fish, however Fuji is really at the shitty end of the Japanese spectrum, okay For Thai girls that don't know any better. A vastly higher quality can be found. Fuji is sort of pretending to be Japanese but you won't see Japanese guys eating there, I think.

You certainly are an optimist when it comes to girl earnings. While it is true that the elite hookers are making big money, it is certainly not the norm, with many girls struggling to get customers sufficiently, they could be the very plain lookers. This adds even more to the girl not being impressed if the good money gets wasted on food instead of on her. Girls can admire a posh hotel room, but they really don't care if they are getting paid well, and room is at least clean.

Some girls can have very high amounts to pay each month for the child's education, so even they earn a lot can still be struggling with the bills. I recall only really 1 regular girl for last few years that was really making big money. She was a gogo girl, body just perfect and could do 3+ short times per night, sometimes more on a busy night. Not keen on LT naturally, unless her regular customer.

Saying you would like to pay less than 5K for a girl per 24 hours, flies in the face of the girl making big money. Inconsistent. The girl I know making big money certainly would not do 24 hours for as little as 5K when she could get multiple STs per day, and be left lots of time to herself.

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Bangkok Beat was always my fav bar. Good bands, beer was a reasonable price, nice venue, great location and the girls were great, mostly casual SW's.

But of course it's long gone now. Where would you recommend that might be similar?

I usually end up at Hillary 4 these days, seems to have the same girls there. Is there a better place, I do like to watch the bands.

Cheers!

Some of the bands at BB were also abysmal, and just too loud to do any talking. Ha ha.

I found the band with Philippine singers at Corner Bar Soi Cowboy, that starts up after midnight to be reasonably talented (at least acceptable sound to my ears), and taking requests. The before midnight band was just heavy metal out of tune yelling. Hopeless.

There are some hostesses there too.

I am sure there are some better locations else where, but I generally hate discos.