Bangkok Reports

[EihTooms]

This is the second time a poster has said he paid a beer bar fine that is the same as a go-go bar fine (Tool Shed at Big Dog being the other one). The last I remember reading about a beer bar fine in Soi 4 it was 300-400 baht (I think it was a Hillary bar). Is 700-800 baht the new price for beer bar fines? Why the doubling in price, and why are guys paying it?

I have read that the beer bars in the new Soi 7 complex, supposedly to be called Nana Market, will charge an 800 baht barfine for their girls. These days it is unusual when I hear that the barfine in a go-go bar is 800 baht instead of 1000 baht or even 1,500 baht unless it is one of the slower nights of the week. And the beer bar girls start out quoting 3,000 baht for ST just as the go-go girls do. That doesn't mean they get it, just that they ask for it. Same with the go-go girls.

These are some of the reasons I have no qualms whatever about reducing the amount I agreed to pay "IF" we fuck bareback or whatever I have proposed and they have agreed to do but they don't at least bring minimally acceptable effort to my bed or, worst case scenario, they have bullshitted their way into my room.

A 1,500 baht barfine and 2,500 baht to the girl, as much as I will generally go for a sweet, young, fit and cute go-go girl who agrees to Real Sex with me is, imo, serious enough money to expect good service, good attitude and no bullshit about it. Otherwise, I will cut back on the money without a moment's hesitation and feel just fine about it. And I suppose 800 baht barfine and 2,000 baht to a beer bar girl is a comparable counterpart for those kind of venues.

And I have never felt noticeable negative vibe or repercussions in the venue later. Not even all that much from the same girl in the same venue. You don't want to pay dramatically less willy nilly for no good reason, of course. But if it is for a good reason, the girl usually understands.

The idea of any of us paying 1000 - 1500 baht barfine just to the bar is probably harder for them to understand than reducing their pay for providing obviously crap service.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Snip. Unfortunately, I had already paid the 700 baht or so barfine for each in the bar. One was from a beer bar and one was from a go-go bar. Both bars were places I have frequented many, many times and for the most part had not been scammed. Snip.

This is the second time a poster has said he paid a beer bar fine that is the same as a go-go bar fine (Tool Shed at Big Dog being the other one). The last I remember reading about a beer bar fine in Soi 4 it was 300-400 baht (I think it was a Hillary bar). Is 700-800 baht the new price for beer bar fines? Why the doubling in price, and why are guys paying it?

[EihTooms]

That's the beauty of mongering in Thailand. One can never pull that off and get away with health and wealth in Latin America. However, the LA chicas do perform better than the Thai babes.

I only had 2 times where there was any hint of a threat to me for drastically reducing the amount agreed upon "IF" or refusing to pay anything at all. One was about 30 years ago and the other one was about 5 years ago. Both were Freelancers. Neither incident was all that serious of a risk, just raised voices and the girl appeared to be prepared to make a big scene for whoever was around at the time.

But that was no big deal, just a lot of dramatic play acting on their part. With those two, the recent two and any other occasions where I have done it, it was so blatantly obvious they got busted on an attempted scam they had no argument or complaint to make really.

[LuvStJohn]

I did start FB, it hasn't gone anywhere yet. IG, not sure how you meet them there? Is there a "people nearby" function or some other method I'm missing out on?

IG happens more by accident and with a little work. Like I said, these are 'long plays. ' First, make sure you have a couple of posts in your IG profile. Some of the FLs and other girls will post their IG account information on TF, for example. You follow them. Look at their posts in the past and when they come up. Look at who comments or likes. You see some good looking friends there that you start following. Just keep building the contacts you follow. Comment and DM the ones you are interested in. Sometimes you get lucky. That's how I found Hooters girl. Total accident. And I didn't know she was a Hooter's girl until I saw her IG post. BTW, there are a few cuties at the Soi 4 Hooters. If you're asking about the one who bartends often -- I wish!

[Turgid]

........... twice in the past week I put girls out of my room with only 20-30% of what I agreed to pay them because they were either so godawful at their job or they outright lied to me (scammed) in the bar about what they agreed to do. .............

That's the beauty of mongering in Thailand. One can never pull that off and get away with health and wealth in Latin America. However, the LA chicas do perform better than the Thai babes.

[LuvStJohn]

I unfortunately booked a crap hotel on soi 7 (soi go pee pee) but in doing so saw that a mini complex of of about 15 new girly bars being constructed right now. Its right off Sukumvit and before the beer garden. Only one open as of yesterday staffed by 3 grandmas but hopefully when this mini complex is complete they get some fresh talent. In the days of tear anything down remotely good to build a shit condo this could be some rare good news. And on the far side of the street are multiple pop up bar stands with some street food, late career Thai hos and a few hot Africans to entertain you while watching the paint dry on the the new girly bars.

That is good news. I've a friend who lives down Soi 7 who told me this place was coming; glad it's here. It's possible that some of the new places are replacements for others from different sois that are being pushed out by the condo development you write about. But even if it's a net 0 proposition, it beats losing more places. Thanks for sharing this information AL.

[Member #4766]

I would hate to post anything that Nyezhov would disapprove of. Therefore, I will refrain from posting my last two days of mongering in Bangkok.

I don't get it. My posts have been complemented on other boards. This board seems to be a lot about steak houses, how things suck now compared to 30+ years ago, and attacking an open and honest poster who is an experienced monger, even if this is his first trip to Thailand.

Enjoy your board but don't expect anyone to post much. This is why people lurk and don't post.

Tool Shedd.

Tool Shed Buddy you are a gem. Your posts are most informative and very well articulated which is purpose of this forum. Please don't stop posting because of some people who find it hard to digest that you are having a good time in Thailand.

[Nyezhov]

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[Shiney1]

I would hate to post anything that Nyezhov would disapprove of. Therefore, I will refrain from posting my last two days of mongering in Bangkok.

I don't get it. My posts have been complemented on other boards. This board seems to be a lot about steak houses, how things suck now compared to 30+ years ago, and attacking an open and honest poster who is an experienced monger, even if this is his first trip to Thailand.

Enjoy your board but don't expect anyone to post much. This is why people lurk and don't post.

Tool Shedd.

Hi Tool Shedd.

Please ignore the off-putting comments from a one and do continue to write your adventures in your own unique style. I am a great admirer of your writing style and have read all your FRs at least twice while living vicariously through all your posts at both Thailand and Abu Dhabi forums.

You are the Star and a beacon of light.

[EihTooms]

I had invited a girl at King Castle I yesterday. Luckily I had asked about short time before paying her a drink because ST was "Cannot".

Today King Castle I again. Plied the mamasan's green laser on a girl on stage. Girl in Cannot palaver with mamasan. Hab customer, so the mamasan's translation.

I had taken 2 girls out from Pink Panther's before so I fell back on Pink Panther. Not many girls tonight that I fancied, only one in fact. I pointed to her. Cannot. Hab cust...

Outside Pink Panther I settled for a MILF. 600 BF + 1500. Inside the hotel room at Tarntawan she turned out a scammer.

What's going on here folks? Is it possible to get laid in this town? How can this call itself a mongering destination?

To add to this just in case there really is a trend going on instead of the usual "it comes and goes in waves" phenomenon; twice in the past week I put girls out of my room with only 20-30% of what I agreed to pay them because they were either so godawful at their job or they outright lied to me (scammed) in the bar about what they agreed to do. And I only gave that much because they had at least gotten naked and started to do something minimally competent in my room. Unfortunately, I had already paid the 700 baht or so barfine for each in the bar. One was from a beer bar and one was from a go-go bar. Both bars were places I have frequented many, many times and for the most part had not been scammed.

But this was twice in a row in just the previous week. I have avoided trying new girls for now and have retreated to some of my good quality regulars until this "wave" of bad experiences has a chance to run its course, maybe a couple of weeks. In my case I live here and can weather these kinds of lousy waves, compare them to the terrific weeks I've had and no doubt will continue to have. But I suspect if this was my first trip to Thailand and I got 2-3 of those kinds of experiences in a row, I would book the next flight the hell out of this country, vow never to return again and assume any "good" reports I read from punters on sites like this one were pure hogwash.

[Tool Shedd]

Tool Shedd, keep on posting. You post for those who like it. I want to hear more about fake orgasm, does she know?

She looked in the condom and wondered about the lack of joy juice there. I think she wrote it off to my age and physical condition.

[Kerrstar]

BTW, all hotels in the area are girl-friendly except to 5-star Hyatt

Nope, all four Hyatts in BKK are GF friendly. I've stayed in them all quite often.

[EihTooms]

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If you are looking for full nude too there is the upstairs, sure it's usually the be or see shift girls, but there are smiles on their faces and everyone seems happy and you can use your phone (caugh caugh, crazy / kozy houses). I don't object to their policy on phones BTW, but if I am not going to use mine when patronizing your establishment when the girl is on my time she isn't on her phone either until she is paid and we are done.

LOL. That is one of the best new ideas I have read here in a while. Excellent suggestion. I will probably incorporate that in my upfront agreements at the establishments that frown on or forbid you to use your phone. And I'll ask the mamasan or whoever collects the barfine to explain my phone policy to the girl the same way they "explain" their phone policy to me in the bar just in case she doesn't undetstand when I tell her about it.

[Chacal60]

Your reports have been solid and your willingness to swap details through PM appreciated.

I urge you to ignore the haters, and don't leave the forum.

I would hate to post anything that Nyezhov would disapprove of. Therefore, I will refrain from posting my last two days of mongering in Bangkok.

I don't get it. My posts have been complemented on other boards. This board seems to be a lot about steak houses, how things suck now compared to 30+ years ago, and attacking an open and honest poster who is an experienced monger, even if this is his first trip to Thailand.

Enjoy your board but don't expect anyone to post much. This is why people lurk and don't post.

Tool Shedd.

[Syzygies]

I would have pulled from there but the hottie I was with turned out to be on the rag, or just didn't want to barfine. Annoying for sure, but not my first time and I had fun at the opening and with my friends so was still a fun time and her loss on the baht and my magic stick. Also I heard that the barfine pricing is crazy at something over 1500 or more? Someone else may be able to add here.

Lastly cowboy, I stopped in Shark to see if my old regular who supposedly had moved off the pole was back, but surprisingly she was not.

Like you said, opening night they could have hired some "models" from agency who were not up for BFing. Not unusual at all. Maybe nothing to do with her period.

In Shark, some gogo girls get a regular BF / sponsor, e. G. Mali is one I think, and may not be back for a long time, or ever. I saw her with her guy in Billboard one night a few months back. You did not mention the name so this girl is unlikely to be your girl I guess. Mali (sometimes called Maa for short) is just one example of older girl but very sexy (ex Suzie Wong). I have taken both Maa and Patty for 3 some at times, but probably Maa will not be back (for now).

Dollhouse is O.K. nothing so special (a bit quiet) , but I know it absolutely depends on where you have good regular girls. Shark sucks for me (over dressed and crap dancing), if were not for regular girls, although music is O.K. If Shark does not have Maa or Patty, I would not bother. Did not try BFing the Coyotes (yet).

Doll House used have a terrible mamasan (annoying type), then she left and a really great waitress was promoted to mamasan, but I think she is gone now too, since Doll House ex owner died when did the fall from the high balcony of apartment building while drunk. So I used to be there fairly regular a few years back.