Bangkok Reports

[WindAngel]

If it was true. Considering in his past posts he stated he pays 6000 and thinks that's a good deal because "he has good game", I seriously doubt it.

Don't know why he would lie about it when his post has information about the location, price, name and pictures that can be verified.

One point he made earlier is that the girl knows her value and that is what monger has to pay. Money is not a big deal to him so he choose to pay and not walk away. I can see from his posts that he knows the market price very well, probably better than most people.

He is providing a different viewpoint and a reflection of this forum. If you don't like his posts, try switching position with him, then his posts will start to make more sense. There are discussion about farang in Thermae and here is his report about an Asian in biergarten. If you agree with his taste of beauty, then you will agree most pictures in this forum are rather unremarkable. If you don't agree with him, then the girl he choose is ugly, and now he is choosing the viewpoint of people who disagree with his taste when writing reports.

[EihTooms]

If it was true. Considering in his past posts he stated he pays 6000 and thinks that's a good deal because "he has good game", I seriously doubt it.

His "report" reeks of horseshit. It appears to be his imaginative way of deriding P4P girls who work in venues catering more to Westerners than Asians; Beergarden Soi 7 vs Thermae. And to illustrate that, unlike the rap on Asians generally expressed on boards like this one and him in particular, he is a wild and crazy guy sexually, very demanding of not just Real Sex on the cheap (vs his apparently usual low demand commingling for inflated prices), but of even more extreme and more perverted stuff than most Westerners claim to engage in with Thai girls on these boards. And it is a means of deriding those customers, too. If anyone believes that Beergarden Soi 7 girl did and told him the things he claims re multiple loads from various guys, Farang cum and so on in that "report", I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you at a bargain price.

LOL. However, his fairy tale is misplaced. Nobody should be impressed that he could get a Beergarden Soi 7 girl to engage in more graphic sexual activity than he usually has to pay thousands more baht for elsewhere. If he really wanted to impress us with his "very strong game", he should have placed his fairy tale in Thermae and made it up about one of the better looking girls there, beating out the other Asian customer competition in the process and all that.

[Smoothy]

2 k for that chick was a great price.

If it was true. Considering in his past posts he stated he pays 6000 and thinks that's a good deal because "he has good game", I seriously doubt it.

[Penguin69]

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[SuperLove]

He brings another dimension to mongering so I am ok. I disagree with him at times as I mentioned in my previous reply, 2 k for that chick was a great price and based on the pics for me she is easily 6/10 and I cannot call her ugly for sure.

Please read his posts over the last couple of months and the replies he got. And then let us know if you still want him to keep writing.

[Mogwai]

Keep writing.

Please read his posts over the last couple of months and the replies he got. And then let us know if you still want him to keep writing.

[JayFung]

Well, except for it is the Asian man that is now getting exploited by the local Asian females. And if you are worried about P4 P gals being exploited, then why are you on this forum?

Never said I'm worried or bothered by it, neither side was forced into making the transaction; it's a simple function of supply and demand. And now, the rising price is always due to simple supply and demand. Asian men aren't being ripped off, they're clearly paying what they're willing to pay, to get services that they want (rather than what the western clientele wants).

[SuperLove]

I visit Thailand twice a year for work and pleasure. Don't offer much to this forum as sex is pretty much in the face and one usually has no problems finding a hole in Bangkok.

Feel 2000 is a pretty good deal for this chick considering its LT and she allows you to do everything, I don't find her ugly unless she has tonnes of make up on her face. Wondering what's good and excellent for you.

Keep writing.

Last night I met up with a girl that I previously hooked up with from Biergarten on Soi 7. The first time we met months ago, I was in the area and wanted to see the difference in girls from Thermae. It's mainly a westerner bar for Farangs with food served as well. I guess I didn't fit the profile the girls there wanted, so I kept getting rejected when I approached them. I guess to them, I was so unattractive and ugly. I was hoping that over paying 3000 baht for short time would make me seem more handsome, but it didn't work. No girls would smile at me or chat me up. I sat alone at the main bar trying to hold back my tears 😭 in my slanted eyes. God help me, a lone Asian wanderer, feeling out of place in a German bar, inside an Asian country.

So in a last ditch effort, I scanned the bar and decided to go for the ugliest girl at Biergarten. She was sitting alone at the main bar beneath the big TV screen. No one was interested in her it seems. I walked up and I said "Hello," in a weak voice from sadness of being rejected all night and we started a conversation. She wasn't a beauty at all, so I had a hard time concentrating on what to say without looking at her hideous face. But it was getting late and I was desperate. In the end, she agreed to go with me long time for 2000 baht. Her services were okay, but I had to close my eyes plenty and think of porn to arouse myself. She did BBBJ and CIM, so I was able to close my eyes and enjoy without looking at her face. Sex wise she was passive and submissive. Too much work for me. She's about 5'3" and less than 100 lbs, shaved and likes to be tossed around during sex. I'm too lazy for that crap.

[Goatscrot]

I understand this is all irrelevant to a relative newbie or a casual tourist, but they're not the only audience here.

Yes, it is and that is one of the problems. There are fewer and fewer residents. The percentage of tourist mongers vs the percentage of resident mongers continues to change in favor of the tourists, which is to the detriment of the resident in all ways. Can't wait till the mainland Chinese dudes invade the bars. They are demanding, loud, and will present quite a shock to the gals. They will long for the days of Western mongers. But since they alienated that customer base, they won't have the option.

[Goatscrot]

It would be nice to get some new valuable intel on new venues or new girls in same old venues, or old girl in new venue. That is probably the only thing of major value in the forum other than for the newbies. Also warnings about strange pricing and policies at certain venues. Warnings about "Coyote" girls and LBs.

Yes sadly, I have not gained any regular girls at all, based on reports of others. Cannot think of even one. I probably did try the odd venue based on reports of others like first visits to Tulip, Snow White, Addict, 102, etc. The big problem is we all have different requirements. In the end, we have to go find girls for ourselves.

I did find the forum slightly useful when it reported the new location one of my old favourite girls had emerged at. That type of intel is worthwhile. I did retry the odd bar in Nana based on reports of others, however always make my own assessment. Some bars others thought great, I thought were horrible. Just different taste. I especially did not like bars full of silicone coconuts.

Since my two regulars left the biz, well over two years ago, I have not found any replacements. And it is not due to lack of looking and trying.

[Goatscrot]

In all my years of mongering, I never saw a case where throwing more money at the same working girl (above her going rate) made the service better. As long as you're not severely underpaying or have a terrible attitude, girls who are typically nice and friendly will try to be nice and provide the GFE they typically do. Those with poor attitudes who are customarily being bitchy and delivering the bare minimum will only give you token crumbs of better service even if you pay them double. You can pay extra for her to hold your dick in her mouth longer, but not to give you a good BJ. And this is even more true with GFE. Even this small positive correlation is in doubt, since offering more than necessary signals to the girl that you're a push-over, and hookers are good at reading these signs and push you over they will.

Sometimes, if you're throwing money around like there's no tomorrow (3 or 5 times the going rate), they'll try to keep it going, but it's usually just a notch better rather than genuinely great.

Agreed. In fact, I think it is quite the opposite. The more money you throw at them, the more foolish they think you are, and they will know they can get away with providing less.

[Goatscrot]

Let's be honest. Thailand and most of Asia was exploited by the West, one way or another, because of a disparity in military and economic power. Now that Asians themselves have enough wealth to prop up their own economy, isn't it a little hypocritical to complain about the fact that Westerners can't exploit them as much as before?

Well, except for it is the Asian man that is now getting exploited by the local Asian females. And if you are worried about P4 P gals being exploited, then why are you on this forum?

[Syzygies]

But it isn't as though that kind of info is particularly insightful or notably valuable in how one approaches the Bangkok/Thailand P4P scene overall.

Ha ha. I received plenty of criticism on descriptions of how I interact with bargirls, and people described it as "the theory of mongering" which it was not really supposed to be. Each guy has their own way of trying to reduce the "mistakes". It has got to the point that it becomes very hard for me to convinced a girl will be good for me. LOL I certainly don't have all the answers on how to screen girls. I am preferring experienced girls these days. If I don't get the feeling the girl is both good looking and wanting me badly, I might just pass. LOL I exaggerate a bit.

Reports on girls I have not tried, could be useful to me, if any turned out to be my spec. Very few stunners with great GFE ever got identified. Lack of sharing maybe? I always had to find the best lookers to my taste for myself. From my recollections, I always reported on the best lookers I tried before anyone else did, or I just found them independently, in the odd case. So I never expect to get a useful new girl tip.

[MonkeyPaw]

Last night I met up with a girl that I previously hooked up with from Biergarten on Soi 7. The first time we met months ago, I was in the area and wanted to see the difference in girls from Thermae. It's mainly a westerner bar for Farangs with food served as well. I guess I didn't fit the profile the girls there wanted, so I kept getting rejected when I approached them. I guess to them, I was so unattractive and ugly. I was hoping that over paying 3000 baht for short time would make me seem more handsome, but it didn't work. No girls would smile at me or chat me up. I sat alone at the main bar trying to hold back my tears 😭 in my slanted eyes. God help me, a lone Asian wanderer, feeling out of place in a German bar, inside an Asian country..

Forgot to mention she was into role play and sex wear during our sessions. I guess any helps to distract from her looks.

[EihTooms]

It would be nice to get some new valuable intel on new venues or new girls in same old venues, or old girl in new venue. That is probably the only thing of major value in the forum other than for the newbies. Also warnings about strange pricing and policies at certain venues. Warnings about "Coyote" girls and LBs.

Yes sadly, I have not gained any regular girls at all, based on reports of others. Cannot think of even one. I probably did try the odd venue based on reports of others like first visits to Tulip, Snow White, Addict, 102, etc. The big problem is we all have different requirements. In the end, we have to go find girls for ourselves.

I did find the forum slightly useful when it reported the new location one of my old favourite girls had emerged at. That type of intel is worthwhile. I did retry the odd bar in Nana based on reports of others, however always make my own assessment. Some bars others thought great, I thought were horrible. Just different taste. I especially did not like bars full of silicone coconuts.

Yes, I would say the kind of info you mention there is very useful on the forum. And there is no push that I can see trying to curtail it. Just a gentle reminder that what triggered this latest discussion on the subject was whether or not certain insightful and IMO useful observations of the scene overall were worth citing as posts of distinction. We certainly ought to be reporting the things you cited above and appreciating them. But it isn't as though that kind of info is particularly insightful or notably valuable in how one approaches the Bangkok/Thailand P4P scene overall. Although I could see a truly epic bit if intel on many bars and clubs hitting that standard.