Bangkok Reports

[Marky1]

During my last trip at end of 2018, my fav girls were taken by same group of young Korean guys for 3 consecutive days. And I can guarantee you these are relatively white slim young Thai girls. Damn I really envy them.

40+ year old farang can be excused for wanting to not date 40+ land whales in their own country. A beaten up 40+ Issan bar girl is likely a step up, but what's the excuse for these young Koreans chasing Issan hookers their own age?

[Faceless78]

Younger to middle aged Asians are taking the average to attractive Thai girls and those girls are earning more. Better than a crusty old white farang. Probably why there's a lot of whining on these forums.

During my last trip at end of 2018, my fav girls were taken by same group of young Korean guys for 3 consecutive days. And I can guarantee you these are relatively white slim young Thai girls. Damn I really envy them.

[IMembr]

My last visit to Thailand was in 2015. I cannot recall seeing back then Asian tourists with fat ugly Thai girls. Is that happening now?

Younger to middle aged Asians are taking the average to attractive Thai girls and those girls are earning more. Better than a crusty old white farang. Probably why there's a lot of whining on these forums.

[Pointy Stick]

East Asians make up the majority of the customers in Bangkok gogos. Apparently they like average looking Issan girls. It's certainly not Farang barfining them every night.

I actually think they are not into the Issan look, its more the farangs. If you look at the girls in Thermae they are a lot more whiter skinned than the one's I see going with farangs at the end of the night.

[Marky1]

My last visit to Thailand was in 2015. I cannot recall seeing back then Asian tourists with fat ugly Thai girls. Is that happening now?

East Asians are 95% of the customers in Thermae. I wouldn't fuck any of the girls in there to be frank.

East Asians have taken over the gogos. The increase in Chinamen at gogos since 2015 has been stunning. You can only imagine the numbers that will be there 5 years from now.

Yes, you do see fat disgusting 60 year farang with fat disgusting 40 year old bar girls.

East Asians make up the majority of the customers in Bangkok gogos. Apparently they like average looking Issan girls. It's certainly not Farang barfining them every night.

[Turgid]

Most of the sex tourists are from China, Japan, Korea. What's their excuse?

My last visit to Thailand was in 2015. I cannot recall seeing back then Asian tourists with fat ugly Thai girls. Is that happening now?

[Werqweq]

My GF and I had a 10 hour layover in Bangkok, so I decided to go get some sex and then meet up with my GF for dinner at Gaggan. She's open minded and said she wanted to do some shopping and realized that I needed to let off some steam. She added with a smile, "handjob only!" When the Airport Link / BTS dropped me near Nana, I used Google maps to guide me to the Analisa spa, but it took me to the wrong one! It turns out there's one near Asoke station and another near Nana station. I was tempted to stay, because there were several cuties, but the mamasan said they couldn't accept me if I had an appointment at the other place. They can't poach each other's clients! She texted that I'the be late, and since it was rush hour I hoofed it over, instead of getting a taxi and then stuck in traffic.

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By the way, this dinner at Gaggan was a $500 tasting menu for two. It's a Michelin two star that has won best restaurant in Asia a number of times. Amazing food, 25 dishes described by an emoji only dinner. The funnest dish was called "Lick it up 👅" and they played the song by Kiss at table with portable speaker, as they served the dish, which was eaten by licking the plate. The most surprising was the chili egg. A synthetic egg filled with chili infused sauces, sitting on a crunchy "nest", that exploded into indescribably delicious flavors your mouth. The absolute most delicious was the lamb chop perfectly prepared in a 140 oil cooker for 4 hours, flavored with lemongrass and pepper. It was a perfect way to end the evening before heading back to BKK for the flight home.

Sounds like a nice GF. Coincidentally my GF and I were also at Gaggan some months ago. I thought it was a bit too "different just to be different" myself, but she thought it was really great.

For people who like to eat in Bangkok (and a few other cities) I will strongly recommend installing the "eatigo" app on their phone. You won't find Gaggan or similar places there, but you will find many other there, both 3-star and 5-star. If you're flexible about time, the discount can be substantial. Up to 50%. Been using it for over a year now and found some really good restaurants I would not have found out about otherwise. The eatigo app and concept is really good imo.

[DelBosque]

I go to BK sinds 40 years! And I stay always in the Nana area.

My last time was 2 months ago.

Thermae caf: plenty of nice young girls, but not realy my place, feel like a meat market.

Beer Garden: Always all day girls, not the youngest ones, but sometimes you can be Lucky.

And have a good time with for 1000 be.

My standard way!

1. I go in the morning / noon to a open day bar (not in front of my hotel) and look around for the lady staff.

They have a morning and a night shift from 10 to 6 and 6 to 2 am).

If I see one that I like I let me serve by her and start a chat.

I go and come back a few houres later and chat again, she nows still my name, etc.

I repeat this the day after and if the contact is good, you can ask her to see her / come to your hotel.

After 6 pm and her shift, before she go home. Usually 1000 be.

2. I go to a massage parlor, look if there is a mas. Lady that I like and if yes, I go for a 1 HR body massage.

At 400 be. Of course at the end of the session she ask if you want some special (!1500 be!

Than I say no, because I do'nt like s*x in a massage cabin, but I ask to see her later after her shift.

Or if not possible, I tell her I come back tomorrow and you come give the massage in my room.

Mostly the boss allow this, you pay only 100 be more to take her out.

Than, we have a good shower toghetter and mas. In a clean spacy room, cosy atmosphere and the full service at the.

End for only 1000 be more. Total time about 1,5 h.

Good luck, enjoy!

[Member #4698]

You are so lucky to be able to enjoy BBFS. I am the same age as you and prior to 1991 had numerous BBFS for close to 20 years. Then came the Magic Johnson announcement and some disconcerting symptoms on my part (turned out not problematic just psychological) and I swore off BBFS. At first I could not finish in a condom but in time I was able to. If I were to go BBFS with a hooker now it would not be enjoyable for me, the worrying alone would ensure that. I do enjoy DATY and rimming with certain girls, however, (intuition being my guide), no worries there.

Everyone has their own level of risk aversion. Mine is somewhere between yours and EihTooms although much closer to his. Anyway, the whole point of P4 P is to have a good time, so do what makes you happy and let others do what makes them happy. For me there is no comparison between BBFS and covered sex. None. But unlike EihTooms, I would not reject a girl because she insisted on a condom for vaginal intercourse. On the other hand, I feel much stronger about BBBJ's vs CBJ's - CBJ's are a total waste of time IMHO. And I will not repeat, nor tip any girl who insists on wearing a condom for a bj. I have even been known to cancel sessions in midstream when a girl erected such a road block. Fortunately, CBJ's are not the default and I rarely encounter CBJ girls. Thank the Lord. So, in my last 100 girls I would estimate I have had no more than 6 girls who insisted on a CBJ. My stats on BBFS is very different with roughly doing 20% to 30% BBFS depending on the particular SE Asian country I am in. My Thai stats for BBFS are at the low end of that percentage.

But if you or others prefer/require more protection to enjoy yourselves then rock on. It is none of my business. I would be amiss, however, in not pointing out that DATY, which you currently enjoy as do I, has its risks too. Go ask Michael Douglas. Thus, risk aversion, as I pointed out at the beginning of this post, is a very personal, subjective matter. There is no right or wrong only what you and the girl are comfortable with.

[Turgid]

...............Unfortunately, I am 65 years old, not Thai, and was only able to fire off into a rubber once when I was about 20. And I think I am still suffering mild, lingering pain from almost rupturing a vital internal organ trying to squeeze that one off. So condoms are a non starter.............

You are so lucky to be able to enjoy BBFS. I am the same age as you and prior to 1991 had numerous BBFS for close to 20 years. Then came the Magic Johnson announcement and some disconcerting symptoms on my part (turned out not problematic just psychological) and I swore off BBFS. At first I could not finish in a condom but in time I was able to. If I were to go BBFS with a hooker now it would not be enjoyable for me, the worrying alone would ensure that. I do enjoy DATY and rimming with certain girls, however, (intuition being my guide), no worries there.

[Marky1]

True but remember most of these dudes are recent arrivals from the land of whales (US) and are yet to appreciate that they can get younger and shapelier for less.

Most of the sex tourists are from China, Japan, Korea. What's their excuse?

[EihTooms]

From what Thai friends tell me, it often (but not always) is. Depends on the lady. I wouldn't know because I use condoms and fire off in the rubber. I am like my Thai friends in that I'd rather have a timid 19 year old beauty with a perfect body in a few positions then a hardcore 30 year old hooker who is skilled but looks like she was hit by a bus covered in tattoo needles and stretch mark making machines.

The Nana dancer sucked me pretty good, then 69, then I fired off in the rubber with her too. Probably spent 45 minutes with her. I was just looking to blow a load, so I got what I came for. She doesn't long time because her Thai boyfriend is jealous and he waits for her after work. Seriously, I have seen him around waiting. Lucky for me 45 minutes is more than enough time to climax.

Ah, then that might solve the mystery about why some of us are fine with taking the go-go dancers we take and paying the barfine plus 2000-2500 to the girl. I suspect those lovely little university students are very much into sticking to the "Thai style" of things. I've been with some in the past who would fight to the death just to avoid DATY!

Unfortunately, I am 65 years old, not Thai, and was only able to fire off into a rubber once when I was about 20. And I think I am still suffering mild, lingering pain from almost rupturing a vital internal organ trying to squeeze that one off. So condoms are a non starter.

In my case at least, the lovely young lady could be the just turned 18 year old reigning Miss Virgin Teen Thailand and Top University Prom Queen. But unless, with little effort, she was clearly prepared to provide me with BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM, then paying as low as 200 (two hundred) baht for an hour alone with her would be a waste of my time and money.

[Rick Rock]

Is BBFS+CIP and BBBJ+CIM normally included at those 1500-3000 baht rates or negotiable with little effort with the university girls you're talking about? How about with the 1880-1000 baht Nana go-go dancer you mentioned?

From what Thai friends tell me, it often (but not always) is. Depends on the lady. I wouldn't know because I use condoms and fire off in the rubber. I am like my Thai friends in that I'd rather have a timid 19 year old beauty with a perfect body in a few positions then a hardcore 30 year old hooker who is skilled but looks like she was hit by a bus covered in tattoo needles and stretch mark making machines.

The Nana dancer sucked me pretty good, then 69, then I fired off in the rubber with her too. Probably spent 45 minutes with her. I was just looking to blow a load, so I got what I came for. She doesn't long time because her Thai boyfriend is jealous and he waits for her after work. Seriously, I have seen him around waiting. Lucky for me 45 minutes is more than enough time to climax.

[EihTooms]

Just ask. Seriously. "Do you have any kids? Any tattoos?" It's not that tough. When you hire a plumber, don't you ask them some questions first?

In other words, you're fine with it. So don't worry then. Enjoy the CBJ.

You can have sex with a university student with no tattoos, babies or stretch marks for between 1500 and 3000 Baht with little effort. So in my opinion, this is the fair price. For an older woman with a lot of mileage, tattoos, stretch marks, etc. , I would say a fair price is maybe 500-700 Baht. Believe it or not some will fuck you for that much. Yes even go go girls, if you get their LINE info and meet them in your condo during the day. But most probably won't do you for that much if you're a standard tourist. Because they don't have to. Because lots of farang will happily give them 3000,4000, 5000, or more, for 15 minutes of starfish activity. So I guess the fair price is "up to you".

Believe it or not, bar fines are negotiable. The mama can change them if she wants to. Some people don't believe it, but it's true. Anyway, I last did a girl out of Nana last month. I paid 1880 Baht total. One lady drink, one bar fine, and 1000 for the girl. Repeated the next day in my room before she went to work for 1000. She has no baby damage, but unfortunately does have a tattoo over her tit.

Is BBFS+CIP and BBBJ+CIM normally included at those 1500-3000 baht rates or negotiable with little effort with the university girls you're talking about? How about with the 1880-1000 baht Nana go-go dancer you mentioned?

[Rick Rock]

You're right, of course. I've had to become much more discerning and just deal with social awkwardness (after all, rejection is still rejection and feels bad from both sides, imo), but still not sure how to politely / discreetly figure out if she has anything up top or baby damage (one girl that had kids still had an amazing body, another had obvious baby damage, and even without babies some have pooches despite being very slim).

Just ask. Seriously. "Do you have any kids? Any tattoos?" It's not that tough. When you hire a plumber, don't you ask them some questions first?

The insistence on CBJ thing seems to be a more recent thing it seems to me, much more now than a year ago. Even then, part of me can't fault the girl for wanting to be safer as that's also good for me.

In other words, you're fine with it. So don't worry then. Enjoy the CBJ.

That being said, what about what we should be expecting for prices?

You can have sex with a university student with no tattoos, babies or stretch marks for between 1500 and 3000 Baht with little effort. So in my opinion, this is the fair price. For an older woman with a lot of mileage, tattoos, stretch marks, etc. , I would say a fair price is maybe 500-700 Baht. Believe it or not some will fuck you for that much. Yes even go go girls, if you get their LINE info and meet them in your condo during the day. But most probably won't do you for that much if you're a standard tourist. Because they don't have to. Because lots of farang will happily give them 3000,4000, 5000, or more, for 15 minutes of starfish activity. So I guess the fair price is "up to you".

I playfully was able to negotiate down from 2500ST to 2400ST, but it was with a girl who I think was just starting (and not hardened / spoiled yet) and seemed to really like me for some reason. To the members who frequent Nana / Cowboy more, are the barfines variable by club or just up to the whim of the mama (within the range of 700-1000)? ST at gogos I thought was also 2500, but recently none would go for less than 3000, and several reports of 3000 as well. Though I got one to go for 2500 by asking for it up front to the waitress who would go negotiate for me.

Believe it or not, bar fines are negotiable. The mama can change them if she wants to. Some people don't believe it, but it's true. Anyway, I last did a girl out of Nana last month. I paid 1880 Baht total. One lady drink, one bar fine, and 1000 for the girl. Repeated the next day in my room before she went to work for 1000. She has no baby damage, but unfortunately does have a tattoo over her tit.