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  1. #46649
    True but there some sheer shit artists who it is all they contribute.

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    This would be almost every member on this thread, other than a newbie.
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  2. #46648
    Quote Originally Posted by Supmam  [View Original Post]
    I long muted the most persistent trolls <snip> Bangkok isn't as good a before.
    This would be almost every member on this thread, other than a newbie.

  3. #46647

    Quick late night post-arrival fun?

    My first visit to Bangkok is coming up soon. I'll be landing at BKK around 1 am on a weekday. Considering the time it'll take to get out of the airport and check into my hotel (about 3 km SSE of nana plaza), what are my best options for some quick fun? I tend to sleep a lot on planes and I'll be jetlagged anyway so I expect to be awake and kind of antsy.

  4. #46646
    I long muted the most persistent trolls on here and the board is much more useful without their claptrap about Indians / Chinese / Bangkok isn't as good a before / my girlfriend is better than my hookers etc etc. Unfortunately can't mute when people respond to their tedious bullshit. I do take pleasure in the most number of muted comments in a row. I think the record is thirteen. Sometimes I go back and recheck.
    Last edited by Admin3; 11-04-19 at 22:55.

  5. #46645
    Too many cops on the streets this weekend to make it fun.

  6. #46644

    Wrapping up Bangkok

    Day 2 was quite dry and only saviour was Doki Doki. Hung out at the usual spot of Hooter to see street action. Saw an extremely hot FL standing just at the end of hooter (not Nana Hotel side) and almost every other nationality stopped to say Hi to her. I saw Koreans twice, Farang twice (assume one was Aussie because he was big), two Indians and the US guy whom I was chatting with couple of days back at Score bar. Almost no one seemed to take her home. Just for fun sake I decided to ask her the rate. Dunked my beer at Hooters (they never have Asahi! And casually strolled by her. She looked hot but her face was very sweet. Almost like a chinese doll. Exchanged some memorised pleasantries to break the ice. Asked her lot of guys stop by but you didn't go with anyone. She said all were bargaining and she knows her price. It was only 11 pm and Halloween so perhaps she waiting for a drunk to take her home. She quoted me 2500 baht and no blowjob. I thanked her politely and on my way.

    Lesson. All FLs are not cheap, almost everyone bargains, irrespective of their nationality if the price is right or at least they know what is the street price, and ask before you take home!

    Someone had suggested Shark and Bacarra and it was a very helpful suggestion. Bacarra has some beautiful girls and some really bad old girls. I called over a girl for chat and asked for a drink. Quickly got her a drink and started with the usual pleasantries and questions about work, life, travel etc. I was impressed with her english language and she did mention that she studied english for non-english customers (older Korean, Japanese business men) Looked around and noticed quite a number of professionals with their expensive Tumi bags chatting and groping away unwilling bar girls. Sigh! I liked her and said lets get out. Then came the shock of my life. She said bar fine is 600 baht + ST is 3000 that's only for an hour + 2 lady drinks. Umm, okay I told her I like you but I don't love you. Both of us laughed and she gave me a kiss and walked away. Now I realise the value of 'I hate to see you leave, but I love to watch you go".

    It was almost closing time so decided to check out Shark but it was also closing and the girls outside in their skimpy bikinis did not justify spending the last 15 minutes there. Now right across there is Rio (if I can recall correctly in my drunk state) and saw three-four really good hotties. I walked across and one of them holds my arm and asks cutely. Why you come so late? I have to go home now. LOL. You got to love these Thai girls who can deliver practiced lines with an unequalled eloquence. Chatted with her while I was finishing my beer from Bacarra. She said she will take me to another bar while this bar closes. Apparently sister bar. Walked over to the bar and settled on the sofa. She said I will go and change. I heard I will go, change and then leave with you. Haha.

    One of my earliest bosses had quipped once, Never assume because its makes an ass of you & me. She changed into a very cute top and denim shorts and said bye. I say where are you going. Home, I have an exam tomorrow. Fuck! Now I am in the new bar where I just ordered one lady drink and one beer for me. I tell mamasan that lady already leave why should I pay for lady drink. She say choose another. There were only 3 and not a speck to the girl who escorted me. I said I am not paying for a lady drink when lady is not here. Other two girls came and sat next to me. I ignored all three and kept sipping on my beer and did not utter a word till my beer finished. I paid 200 baht for the beer and kept it on the table. Mamasan came and took away money and lady drink. Wish I could remember the name of the bar but I think its two-three bars left of Rio.

    Headed back to Sugar on Soi11 in some hope but it was a packed night and could not spot any FL who was not with someone. Thought of trying Minxx and quickly went out. I ask one guy for Minxx and he said 100 baht. I know he has a free taxi ride to Minxx because he is paid by the club. Went to minxx and very very disappointing crowd. Saw one cutie and approached her. She was very happy and I was happy too but I was not very happy when I looked at her upclose. I said bye to her and she said she was very drunk and wanted taxi money home. I said I can book a grab for her but I don't have cash. She got so angry! I was like what the fuck! She latched on to some poor drunk young farang sob and left the club with him. As they say "One man's trash is another man's treasure".

    I came out of Minxx and saw two hippie farangs talking to a Arab guy and discussing what's open now. He mentioned Bamboo bar is the only place open now. So we decided (me and two hippies) to go Bamboo and negotiated with a taxi guy to take us for 150 baht. I should have just checked grab. Anyway, this thai middle aged lady (with very good english) walked up to me and said - "Are you going with them? If yes, do not. They are cheap hippies who like you because you are going with them and pay for them. Just say no and see what happens" I said I cannot go with them as I am too drunk to go anywhere and I need to sleep. Guess what! They also did not go and the taxi driver came hurling at me. This Thai lady intervened and said something to the driver in Thai. He walked away. She looked at me and winked. I thought she was a FL too as it was dawn, she was alone, she was tipsy but guess what. A pajero pulled up and she got in the back seat. It left me wondering. Why and what the heck!

    Anyway, I had no clue where the F is Bamboo so just took a Grab Bike and saw Bangkok like never before. Its 5. 30 in the morning, the roads are empty and you can see Bangkok at its best. People setting up stalls, kids going to school, streets being cleaned of last night revelries and the sun yet to come out strong. Got dropped outside Bamboo and guess what. Its closed. Disappointed! Anyway, opposite side I see Grace Hotel. Famous for Arabic and Middle Eastern chicks! Dream come true but its already 5. 30 am. Anyway I go the hotel and immediately got put off by everything about it. Headed to the cafe grab coffee and baklava. Now its a hotel catering to Middle Eastern people so I assume they will have Baklava and coffee. But no, they don't have baklava and only have coffee with milk. So I google translate, milk on the side and black coffee only. Sigh! Saw these three middle age women, of which two were younger than the other one. Kept eyeing and smiling at me. Good lord, its 6 am! I smile back but not long enough to signal her anything. Quickly sip down my coffee and GTFU of the hotel. Came back to my hotel and slept peacefully!

    Day 3 was better. To summarize, Mango+SW+Wood Bar+Insanity. Wood bar, caught a cute chick with a name bebe and thai name Kanjanaporn. Coincidentally, all three girls were from Isaan and yet looked very different. Kanjanaporn was a stunner and she would be better off sucking off cocks in fancy hotels rather than Wood Bar for 1000 baht. She was insanely cute, friendly and oh my god. What a blow job and my first CIM in Thailand. I usually do not CIM because its a waste for short time. I took her number in case I am unable to score outside. It was already 1. 30 am and I had to leave for airport at 3. 30 am so I had time for one ST. Dashed from my hotel to Insanity (higher entry price for global DJ who played shit music anyway). Made a beeline for the bar and quickly grabbed the free beer and started looking around. Saw a very cute looking chick (who for some reason did not seem Thai and almost chinese) I Sawasdee Krap'd her and she replied Hello. I was bit surprised and happy. She said she is from Hanoi! Bingo! Another on my list. Haha. Quickly closed the deal at 1800 baht (she started from 2500) and headed back to my hotel. In hindsight her friend was a better deal (big boobs, big butt and cute face). She got naked and had a stunning body like how I like (on somedays haha) Petite frame, smallish tits with big nipples and a round medium sized fleshy butt. Yummy! Did all the stuff in 45 minutes flat and asked her to fuck off. She cutely asked for 2500 to which I gave her bottle of water and a spank on her ass! Slept for an hour before I headed out to the airport.

    I have put detailed report for Mango and SW in the relevant thread. Thanks to all members of this forum who make this a wonderful place for first timers in Bangkok. I mongered in Phuket and Chiang Mai as well. Will put out detailed report for Chiang Mai soon as Phuket is easy to score with very less places to monger at.

    Cheers to all! Keep spreading love and cum at relevant places!

  7. #46643

    Decline of the Gogos.

    Looked at some 2006 posts (I used a different handle then). Interesting I wrote that I did not go to Pat Pong any more and it could be avoided (rip off style bars kept increasing). Largely poor service girls and expensive, plus all the LB bars. One guy wrote that Cowboy was full of LBs in all the bars. He was quite wrong. There may have been the odd secret one. Giotto wrote that Cowboy could not have LBs as that would scare away all the Japanese. How wrong. Japanese are their major customers.

    Pat Pong was in its hey day when it had the most bars in about 1990 (I first went there in 1991). The decline already had started. There were still some very slutty bars and full nudity. There were rip off bars, especially in the street connecting Pat Pong 1 and 2 and maybe Lipstick and others. I did not become aware of Star of Light till much later, but still used Pat Pong occasionally into about 2001. I also went to Cowboy in 1991 but was not aware of Nana Plaza at all.

    I believe I started at Nana Plaza in late 1993, Lollipop, Pretty Lady, and Hollywood (all on ground floor), and later Voodoo opened. I continued to visit Nana sometimes through 1990's and into early 2000's until the nudity disappeared and Lollipop Mermaidium was stopped. I believe 2002 was the big crackdown with Thaksin coming to power. So that is where I think the Nana Plaza decline started. Right now there seem to be very few bars of any real interest to me at all there. Too many over dressed girls. In its hey day Nana Plaza had about 39 shops, which has declined to 30 in 2015 and probably less now. Many bars open and close again after a short time. Its not easy to make them work. Could be 10 LB bars by now. I did have regular girls at Mercury and Billboard in recent years. They were quite non normal bar girls.

    I was chiefly using Soapies in early 2000's (and late 90's). I could only get away from GF for short time before she would call to check where I was.

    Somewhere in the early 2000's the gogo bar price of girls probably went up a lot so when I first went back to Cowboy in 2006, I had been away from bars for quite some time and little idea of the prices. At that time several Cowboy bars had full nudity. Being told that is what brought me back. Long Gun had been a fore runner but was already declining (as Goat pointed out). Relatively little girl full nudity time by 2006, and they were allowed to have big Bush. Suzie Wong had shaved pussies and more nudity and also shows that were erotic (like the lesbian shows) without being the Pat Pong style shows. Long Gun had the ugly shows. Some time later Long Gun improved with some cabaret type shows.

    I later became more of a Sheba (Suzie Wong sister bar) patron as they had better girls and music than Suzie Wong. When Sheba closed, I moved to Crazy House and some Suzie visits. I always wanted girls dancing nude, which was long gone from Nana. I had a regular girl at Doll House too. Crazy House was a good bar (for some) when it first opened but it just gradually declined basically from then on over the years. I don't go there any more, and its a very long time since I barfined a girl there. Never was a fan of Bacarrat (due to excessive surgeries and stage too full to see the girls), although took a girl successfully a few times.

    So right now it's hard to recommend bars in any gogo area in Bangkok. I have heard of the Pat Pong resurgence, but my visits there did not unearth lots of exciting girls, being a bit picky. One visit with Natty, the girl I liked in Kings Castle whatever was same girl I had already done in Twisters at Nana (was slow to realise at first). Pretty but not quite a perfect body (tits a bit saggy). Probably too much surgeries for me generally. Cowboy still has some bars with full nudity and shaved pussy. That greatly aids me to make a selection with no shocks about the body afterwards.

    Not sure what year the Arab bars (these days said to be rip off bars) opened in Cowboy and the LB bars, and large number of Coyotes, but that only hastened the decline for me. Numbers of very pretty naked girls has dropped away. Cowboy gets closer to the worst years of Pat Pong, while Pat Pong perhaps improves again. So the decline of Cowboy started later than Pat Pong and Nana, but probably accelerated at a faster rate.

    Some guys were totally fed up with the gogo bars many years ago, but I found it a better venue to give me a chance to select a pretty and fun girl, than MPs. I used to like Soapies heaps in the 90's and early 2000's, but then they declined too for session success rate. I probably did not start at Oilies till 2006.

    I think guys can still enjoy some carefully selected Bangkok gogos if they are on a big budget and if they don't mind the surgeries too much. My visits start to get rare. It might not be value for money. Ha ha. I state the obvious.

  8. #46642
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Do you mean the one who stands alone near the bar and has been there for years? Always thought she was a ladyboy.
    I don't know which one you mean. The one I am talking about is very glamorous looking, and sits in the right corner where the seats start by the TV as you are of course facing into the room.

    My favorites are Mamasan moon face and her daughter.

  9. #46641
    Don't waste your breath. The anti Indian thing here is just part of these guys view of life and probably most of the lurkers are the same. They're never going to change their mind. To them Indians are just one group to hate, next week Chinese next week Africans, next week thai men. These guys will always be ready to fight with their beliefs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gajith  [View Original Post]
    You might know may be maximun 100 indians, it doesn't mean the whole 1. 3 billion people have same attitude. I have travelled from the Canada border to key west and to Mexico city through Laredo border by land. I have seen too many homeless, beggars and super fat people doesn't mean that all Americans are like that.

    I did travelled end to end Japan and saw so many homeless there too, but it is not the whole picture of the country.

    For me, negotiation is a skill, if you are into IT, you can't get a service without an Indian involvement. It's up to your company to choose to whom you want to give a contract. But I have done some successful negotiations and managed to include additional services within the same cost.

    Everything has changed from what you had seen before. I am in mid thirties and I volunteerly retired from my banking career and travelling round the world. I know so many young men nowadays taking career breaks at mid twenties and enjoying their life.

    India changed a lot, so you can't compare everyone else with indians you knew.

  10. #46640
    Quote Originally Posted by Gajith  [View Original Post]
    You might know may be maximun 100 indians, it doesn't mean the whole 1. 3 billion people have same attitude.
    That would be a matter up for debate I'm afraid.

  11. #46639

    The people whom you know doesn't represent the whole India.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    Almost everything about the Indian culture is a turn off. My company has a policy to not even negotiate with Indian companies at all anymore.
    You might know may be maximun 100 indians, it doesn't mean the whole 1. 3 billion people have same attitude. I have travelled from the Canada border to key west and to Mexico city through Laredo border by land. I have seen too many homeless, beggars and super fat people doesn't mean that all Americans are like that.

    I did travelled end to end Japan and saw so many homeless there too, but it is not the whole picture of the country.

    For me, negotiation is a skill, if you are into IT, you can't get a service without an Indian involvement. It's up to your company to choose to whom you want to give a contract. But I have done some successful negotiations and managed to include additional services within the same cost.

    Everything has changed from what you had seen before. I am in mid thirties and I volunteerly retired from my banking career and travelling round the world. I know so many young men nowadays taking career breaks at mid twenties and enjoying their life.

    India changed a lot, so you can't compare everyone else with indians you knew.

  12. #46638
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Well, I'd say since about 05.
    Yes I reckon they were still okay Up to 2005 in Cowboy, and declined gradually. I was pretty much happy with Sheba up till it closed (a few years later), although easy to spend too much, although probably avoided Long Gun since several years earlier (perhaps 2005+) , before tall Noi (super body) started working as the front of house girl. I liked a skinny show dancer called Ning, even just to watch her shows. She did a two girl cabaret act that was fairly professional, up till her co-dancer left (not the Phat Pong type stuff). So strangely Long Gun was a bar I would attend regularly for short visits even without barfining any girl.

    In 2007 the Bangkok thread got archived.

    Its hard for me to remember actual years now that memory is less sharp. Still I can read my very old reports, to find out when I was still doing Long Gun. 2008 I wrote that Long Gun was not a favourite bar any more even though I liked two girls and one waitress (naturally beautiful girls). So just visited occasionally, but BFed more in SuziW and Sheba, despite the cost rising.

    Late 1990's to early 2000's I probably was doing very few bars at all. I was on a short leash most likely (Thai GF) and not in Thailand much. Not a great idea. Mid 1990's Nana Plaza had full nudity, but later Cowboy took over that role. I was missing at the time of that take over so not aware when Long Gun started nude dancing, but was a good period.

    1991, one had to go to Pat Pong to see full nudity and indulge into multi girl orgies at lunch time. I never was into girls being over dressed. Pat Pong was in its prime for me, even had to avoid rip off joints. For me the decline of Nana corresponded with no more nudity so in the 1990's (early Nana Plaza was more like Cowboy. Girls were more slutty in a good way). The Lollipop Mermaid tank was a nice touch. 2005 could be about right for the start of Cowboy decline.

    All bar areas were adversely affected by big increase in nose jobs and tit jobs for me, even well before the agency girls started arriving, and of course the rising costs, given girls were so cheap for the whole night in 1991.

  13. #46637
    Quote Originally Posted by Henrya77  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone seen her? She used to advertise in CL "travel" as "Classy", and she seems to be.

    40's, short hair, lots of ink, fantastic body but had a boob job.

    Expensive, so I was wondering what an experience with her is like before I go for it.

    And yes, I know I can easily anal a 20 something for way less than she wants, I'm somewhat obsessed.

    Same with Maynie, but there are several reports on her.
    Why make your first post read like an advertisement for some girl? Seems silly. Better to post experience reports, for a few different places.

  14. #46636
    Quote Originally Posted by Catire  [View Original Post]
    Not an authority on the matter, but I've seen older (middle aged) Japanese guy who I thought were charming in their interactions with the girls (and or tried to use charm).

    BTW, was in Thermae earlier this week, and frankly was not impressed with the lineup.
    The lineup was OK on Wednesday, but last night it was horrible. The worst I have ever seen. Just row after row of nerdily dressed fat assed butterfaces.

  15. #46635
    Quote Originally Posted by Gajith  [View Original Post]
    Japanese and Koreans are everywhere They only use money not charm. I seldom saw any Japs / Koreans dancing well at any of the club's in South East Asia.
    Not an authority on the matter, but I've seen older (middle aged) Japanese guy who I thought were charming in their interactions with the girls (and or tried to use charm).

    BTW, was in Thermae earlier this week, and frankly was not impressed with the lineup.

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